Very interesting indeed and, am sure, I’d have done exactly the same had I been your age today. Thank You so much for leaving a comment.

Thanks Mark. Good to hear your thoughts.

N-gauge is the OBVIOUS answer to that problem

@@paulsevers7740 For you yes but, always too small for me, it has to be said. Would I have opted for TT:120 had it been available with as many products available back when I started as a kid or, when getting back on board, a decade ago?

It’s that same urge that grabbed and grabs me too. I’m definitely doing a small TT layout soon and my latest video will include the process in a confined area. It will be discrete, straight forward and far more simple, though this has raised eyebrows as, I’ve a loft in DCC OO, a garden to shed in OO with block detection both still in construction, now this in TT so, can see how easily the creative mind can fill any space or opportunity. Good luck 👍

@@modeloco I have subbed and look forward to seeing it. I am a complete novice and have never done the modelling side of things and i was thinking that a diorama might be nice to start in 00 but then when you weigh up the costs on a station, a builing, grass and ballast plus a bit of track and an engine.. thats a bit of money invested straight away.. all for a practice when i could start TT120 straight off... aahh it's a decision lol because I dont want to sod up a TT layout..

That's great to hear!

Thank you so much Alan. That’s very encouraging indeed. Have been right on the fence here, almost pulling up, all my OO track, laid so far, outside of the loft (though could do that instead one day) Locolift included, which has 40 lengths of track, each almost 1.5 metres long alone then, I thought of going TT:120 from house, into garden, to shed and back but, yes, do remind myself, it is very early days, to say the least. You’re in a very good position and, with you all the way, on every point you make. Do feel they’ve announced everything, a little prematurely but, obviously pushing it, hopefully for the festive spend if, it arrives in time. Do love my DCC sound Locomotives. Hornby say TTS chips will arrive around next spring for TT:120 but, no ideas on price yet. To buy a 3rd party one with speaker is going to be no cheaper really, than OO, then it’s fitting them yourself, of course. As you, wish them well 👍

Thanks Clive. I guess space will always be an issue and that, there’s always compromises to be made somewhere down the line.

Thanks Tobi for saying that. Very much appreciated.

In my book, best scale for beginners! I'm leaving the whistle, it's near on impossible to spot without a lens lol. Love the detailing & running. Looking forward to smoke generators in OO but, good points made.

@@modeloco the smoke generators do look very good

Encouraging to hear Mark. Only nothing to report here as yet 👍

Do sense a lot of others feel exactly the same way. All good for the hobby.

Table top wargames scale?

Maybe the latest 3D printers will see production come back onto UK shores at some point. Do feel, everything is going up though. I dearly treasure my Hornby 'Clive Of India' Sound loco. This model seemed to be at a tipping point before the TT sound chips came out & as we now know, at a point where Hornby began looking at TT:120. Expensive yes but, the step up in quality, very apparent. From what I read, TT:120 will be a step up too. DCC sound fitted would have been the icing but, that would have pushed price again.

Do feel, for a lot of OO modelers, it’ll be a case of making a little more room in their hearts and homes for this, probably as an additional scale at first but, who knows where we’ll be in a few years when others join the fray…

Thank You! Much appreciated.

I’ve a new episode coming out anytime and yes 👍

Guess we'll get it eventually, sooner, rather than later. Hope this isn't the beginning of the OO delays of old.

@@modeloco yeah im looking forward to it, anything new is a good thing for the hobby, it suits my needs as im stuck for space

@@andykopgod Certainly starting over. Not all share the 'good thing' but, looking at it, as a whole, don't feel Hornby had any other real choice. Suppose you could have let others do it or, reduced OO to the overall, more accurately scaled HO or, finally standardised N Scale but, this would have been an extremely messy business & caused even more confusion &, extreme upset for those already heavily invested. Technology is driving so many changes, as it becomes more efficient so, size can be looked at, again now with years of hindsight. TT:120 is a growing market abroad. They could have stayed put but, with retailers going into manufacturing, along with publishing outlets too and, slowly both letting go of the Hornby brand and, it no longer always being given as much top shelf status, do think, at least, this is a firm line in the sand. Taking the sales in house to control how its advertised, marketed and priced was too, getting more crucial. Tales of hoarding & then bumping up price were all in the mix, I'm sure a few years back, with it being once naively said, that one retailer in the UK had more stock than Hornby. Every action has a consequence. Be interesting to watch but, wish them well, it's a brave move, sometimes less is more. I'll put your thought invoking comment in a Community Post. Thank You!

My TT club pack arrived 02 December. Very nice catalogue. Hopefully a cl37 and cl31 locos will be part of the plans in the future.

@@andrewhead6267 There’s hope for the rest of us then

Thanks Craig, Welcome back to the hobby, by the way. In Part 3 I invite the viewer to ask the 5 Questions that, I always ask myself before starting a new project. At the end of the day, all scales have their place but, for me it’s OO and now TT:120 too👍

In OO, Peco sell the ST-203 (nothing available in TT:120 as yet). Thus using, these short pieces to get the desired spacing and, to achieve the most realistic result though, even this, is far more than in real life of course, due the bends we use in modelling. I’m not sure if you can tweak the 43mm down a a few millimetres as yet as, I’ve not got any long carriages to play with but, yes if, going below a very gentle radius, where you want to keep all track spaced, equally throughout, then 36mm point spacing will need a short piece cutting and inserting to get the desired result, which is what I’ll be doing myself if required.

The other thing is I wouldn’t advise going any tighter than radius 2 on mainlines and presume Hornby’s 43mm spacing is to accommodate the very tight radius one. I was hoping to get away 36mm because of no rad ones tbh but, to be on the safer side, may indeed, go with somewhere in between these two figures you quote on the bends because of this so, probably will try a 40mm spacing and then use 36mm on straights initially but, won’t ballast until I’ve tried longer rolling stock for possible clashes, in the summer, as they come on sale. At this point will then finally adjust one way or the other.

Once you see it. Do wish they'd upscaled the track, back in the day or, gone down to HO but, hey ho

@@modeloco Propper TT is very attractive. I hope it takes off.

The continental market seems to be strong for this scale, overtaking N now in popularity or, at least that’s what I’m reading. There are videos showing N and TT:120 and even HO, already. The investment required, to put all three N scales and HO side by side would be considerable and could have even clouded the view on camera. For many people, like myself, N is too small but, I’m certainly not against it. Thanks 🙏

@@modeloco quite possible , but it has always been there , it hasn't here so there are very few british outline subjects , if you take away re liveries and re numbers hornbys range in reality is very sparse before you got onto oo gauge items posing as tt because they haven't been developed yet

By the looks of it, finally one that is standardised too so, it'll interconnect with other continental products, should you so wish.

I see where you’re coming from if, possible Catalina yes and, hopefully most will go to that. Thanks 🙏

Maybe. Hornby seem to be pushing the decreased space requirements as a way of getting more people into the hobby that couldn't build in OO. Many existing modellers will see it as a way to get more realistic-looking curves and layouts into existing space though. OO layouts often looked cramped because so very few people are blessed with enough space to make a good operational layout look good too.

ON Tillig advanced track, only a few select steam locomotives can't travel R0-267mm. None of the locomotives currently in production from all major producers have problems traveling Tillig advanced R1-310mm. In order to simulate better realistic curves build something as R3-R2-R1-R1-R1-R2-R3 and you can also elevate the track at an angle compared to the apex of the curve.

In Part One, we certainly looked into size comparisons on paper. Of course there are three N scale sizes and, we discussed this too, in the comments. Prices seem better than OO so, just presume, a little more than N scale, due to the physical size & shipping costs. I await the Hornby price of sound decoders with sugar cube speakers as, 3rd party ones aren't cheap & it all adds up. Yes, interesting how things will be in several years & if, successful, will prices rise for TT:120 & fall for OO as, we see lately with O scale

I think what you are more or less saying that neither company, quite get it right with one focusing too much, it could be said, maybe… so, primarily producing boxed sets and the other having fine-scale, at best? Do you feel, TT:120 now addresses this mixed bag, after all these years, finally, putting a standard down, that is, more accurately scaled and gauged than before, being within a tolerance of about 0.05mm. I think this was how the maths works out and, was put in the comments under TT:120 Part One, compared to HO scale, being within about 0.03mm. I do get a sense, there are real, genuine frustrations out there, regarding the pick and mix we have or, have been offered in the past, by majors. It does highlight, there’s always a compromise between say artist/inventor/creator and company/bank/investor, even Brunel had to let go of his broad gauge, still visible at Didcot. As railways developed, a shame it wasn’t adopted. Interesting too, that when we look back, it’s not about how much it cost but, how well it was crafted, developed, made and served us all, that counts, that stands the test of time. Knowing or feeling that something is being thwarted or, held back from being it’s greatest self, never quite rings true

Good Question Terry. Brings back memories of that very hum and remember it on my Scalextic set too, as i just tickled the throttle, to engage the motor, before it began to spin. If that's what you mean, I'd say, its all down the motor pole design, windings and voltage needed, to make the coils jump to the next magnetic outer ring, hence the less giving more of a jerky movement at low speeds. We all await with our test set ups, no doubt, once built. PS my old transformer used to hum too. Even the Elite has a slight sound, in a Digital way of course.

My controller didn’t hum, but it’s very cheap and plastic and wouldn’t work until I unplugged everything a couple of times. The markings bear no resemblance to the power output. I had to turn to 50% before the loco would move. I am unimpressed by the poor quality overall.

@@theenigmaticgamer Held back on any thoughts of buying a set at any time, recently or, in the past, for this very reason

A step forward, it would seem with this new scale

The lit Pullman coaches are more expensive. £41.84 though, with your free club 15% discount for 12 months. As I looked at a Resin Signal Box in OO this week by Bachmann, at between £68 and £73, depending on outlets, it’s an expensive hobby if you want the top notch gear. The TT:120 range is coming in cheaper when you compare like for like though. As for detailing comparisons, I await the release.

Put it another way, 1 TT coach or one o gauge wagon kit. That's a very rough conversion

@@HamStrains Guess it comes down to, how we can all see things differently, which is a good thing 👍

@@modeloco a man content with industrial locos and minimum space is probably the happiest modeller these days... my whole O gauge affair track locos scenery baseboards rolling stock the lot is probably costing less than 3 of the big expensive to form express passenger trains in OO. 🤣sure I gotta kit build, sure I gotta even get to breaking down some flexitrack and using copper clad board to cut costs on some points that will have ballasted over sleepers but still, what a time to be alive if you're me. Can finally justify the gorgeous big scale stuff that always seemed a bit overpriced compared to yesterdays bargain OO offerings. Best part being most of the suppliers are small and supply not really that much above cost because they don't have huge overheads of a big business or the real drive to make big profits as most of them do it out of wanting the models for themself in the first place then simply sell it as an afterthought. Was even pricing up a budget gauge one layout... but there just wasn't quite the offerings I wanted in terms of locos.

@@HamStrains The only time is now & your 'good to be alive' feelings are a joy to hear. Have just got some copper clad board to make sleeper bits, for baseboard splits with, in future. I'm not into kit building rolling stock but, anything else is an option as, I venture into that side, next spring, I'd say. My ideal settings are countryside & wide open spaces, where village life rambles & steam trains drop off local produce & passengers. In fact Mrs Turnbridge has just arrived back from a trip to her sisters and is in a hurry to catch Stuart, the local Postman in his Morris 1000 van. The sun is out & it's a pleasure to read your post too!

It's likely that contemporary politics came into the Mallard v 05 debate - Gresley was not prepared to concede anything to Nazi Germany. Similarly was the Cheltenham Flyer really the world's fastest train, or simply the fastest in the British Empire? I've a feeling that the Hiawatha - or quite probably the "Twin Cities 400", scheduled to cover 400 miles in 400 minutes might have equalled her.

This sounds uncannily like, the rather odd case, I read, surrounding John Logic Baird, to decide who really was first to invent the TV. The contesting inventor was almost written out of history, more so, after settling on a huge payout years later, from the, by then, very lucrative deals that followed and flowed into the pockets of the successful side, who also had a huge say over what the pens pushed into the history books. As Johnny Cash once sang, What Is Truth?

Thank you for the thoughts/feelings invoked here. Having been into DCC OO again now, for over a decade, it can easily feel a bit uneasy too, from the perspective, of having the purse strings being tugged at, again, after the investments made, as TT:120 comes in and, even easier to view this as just one big cash grabbing exercise. It too, can be viewed as, letting go of our own standards or, a keeling over, to continental pressures. Doing this video delve into scale and gauge, I’m more inclined to see that in the UK, we went our own way, instead of adopting HO for British models. That can be said too, with British N scale. It could even be said that this could have been done, apart from the reasons given, with an air of belligerence and, a way to secure consumers, once on board, because they could not then, buy into or, mix other brands, as they would either look odd, size wise, not hook up or, not run on the track gauge supplied. The UK scales adopted were at odds with other continental competitors, who over the years, just let us be. The UK mass manufactured scales are at best, not as in scale as say HO, which runs on the correctly gauged track, that everyone uses. I don’t know which N Scale is the most in scale but, I’d probably guess, it isn’t British. Had I been Hornby, I’d have probably just started to slowly transition to HO but, to upscale the track gauge, which seems to be your suggestion, would cause even more isolation in a shrinking world and slowing market demand since, the post gadget era so, surely this would have been a suicidal move. People use those gadgets and can shop globally now too. As an outsider looking in. The Triang gauge was also more out of scale than HO as well and, too close to bare any real ground, even back then in the 60’s. What TT:120 does offer is a match of model scale and track gauge like HO does. Rather than capitulation, I see it more as just going with a more accurate representation. It sits perfectly between OO and N and, it matches and hooks up with other continental models, rather than any more mismatching. That said, HO I believe, is still the more accurately scaled, when comparing the maths with TT:120 by about 0.2mm. Your thoughts are most appreciated on this and, I’m certainly open to them. Division between individuals, only leads to more division but, differing ideas and thoughts can lead to real breakthroughs. HO is simply, just the more accurately scaled. TT:120 sales on the continent are said to be very buoyant, it’s in scale with the correctly gauged track. Do we embrace it or, carry on again, regardless in a modern internet based age?

Hi Richard, Simply don’t have any N scale now so, the investment would be quite substantial after the initial outlay in TT:120, to make this video. I don’t have any sponsorships and aren’t a retailer but, that has its benefits too and, can offset TT:120 investments made, as I do plan to have a dabble because the scale makes sense to me and, there’s definitely interest out there. I featured other scales in Part One, using dialogue, picture and diagram formats. Me, for one, would not want to see Hornby suffer because of this new venture but, do feel with more retailers wandering into manufacturing, the demands growing abroad for TT and, if not they, then someone else then, maybe they had to move on it eventually. Peco have obviously gone in and so, must believe in this too with some very sharp products and fresh ideas. My one area of doubt, is if the younger end will take up this hobby as, that seems to be where sights are set and for Hornby, have really always looked towards. The Olympic products were a bad error of judgement and letting their own block detection plans go, hit me because I’ve had to look elsewhere, to get another system, on top of my Selects and Elite controllers. 15 years back it looked as if they were really going more with the experienced modellers. I like where they’re going with the steam generators and not sure why they never went more into DMU’s but, hey ho. Hornby having planned this TT:120 announcement since 2017 and being very experienced, are in my opinion, the best ones to pull it out of the Engine shed. Fingers crossed 🤞

Gosh the N scale peeps are a bunch of moaners. If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all.

Is this the British or, the North American meaning. As you've only just joined You Tube today so having, no other content available yet, to help me establish which it may relate to then, I'm not sure how best to take your advice on board. Try keep facts more scripted whilst also, giving the heart a say too, in all this and, this can vary from video to video. Totally get the frustration of someone wanting the facts quickly then, seeing someone go on and on about, what we may find irrelevant procrastination. Also, time moves quickly too so, as products are released can seem less helpful. I've only done 5 videos so, will get more fluid as time goes by or, is one waffling again lol

Mmm?