Turkish F-16 vs Greek F-16 Intercept Breakdown | Dogfight Over The Mediterranean or Fake?

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C.W. Lemoine

C.W. Lemoine

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Former F-16 Pilot breaks down the recently released HUD footage of Turkish F-16s intercepting Greek F-16s over the Mediterranean Sea.
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0:00 Turkish F-16 vs Greek F-16
0:07 Situation
0:52 Intro
2:22 Play Through Reaction
4:38 Analysis/Breakdown
14:01 Is it REAL or FAKE?
21:30 Closing
#HAFvsTAF
#F16vsF16
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@Love2Cruise
@Love2Cruise 3 жыл бұрын
It’s too close for guns. I’m switching to knives.
@fahmihardian7778
@fahmihardian7778 3 жыл бұрын
Japanese WW2 pilot be like: BANZAAIIII!!!!!
@tasoszonios5021
@tasoszonios5021 3 жыл бұрын
Its too fake
@Tranceenegry
@Tranceenegry 3 жыл бұрын
Typical FPS Mentality ;)
@unsafe0594
@unsafe0594 3 жыл бұрын
asjkmndajösldshkaljsdhkasd perfect
@ascott2264
@ascott2264 3 жыл бұрын
take your covidmask off and breathe on him
@moyedchowdhury7697
@moyedchowdhury7697 3 жыл бұрын
I've been watching videos comparing the two forces (the Turks and the greeks) for a couple of days now. What's amazing is that in the comment section of those videos the most liked and commented comment always is the one that Greek expressing respect and love for the Turks or a Turk expressing love and respect for the greeks and trash-talking about the politicians of both countries.
@Galcan
@Galcan 3 жыл бұрын
Well they are burning Turkish flag left and right
@otgunz
@otgunz 3 жыл бұрын
You know, Turks and Greeks and Kurds and Arabs lived for 1000 years together in and around Anatolia. And all this time sultans, emperors, marshal turned politicians, religious fundementalists and traitor high ranking officers who sold their country FUCKED THESE PEOPLE OVER AND OVER. Why you invade from Izmir to Ankara (650 fucking kilometers deep) if Sevre Treaty says that Greeks can defend Greek people in Ottoman Izmir? Why when English leaves Greek Cypriots can kill Turkish Cypriots just to clain the whole island for themselves to join Greece? Why now thousands of little islands given to Greece by Italy (as they were meant to be returned back to Turkey) gives Greece the authortiy to control whole eastern Mediterranean? Why Europe, France especialy (since England is not Europe now) backes Greece to do this shit like England backed Greece back then? Can you see a connection here? Turks conquered Greece in the 14th and 15th centuries. Greece is trying that in the 20th and 21st centuries. For the mere people, how can I hate my neighbour? I would die to defend them right? So again and again just for the will of Europe, Russia, US, Greece wants to fight with Turkey 3rd time in a row.
@constantinoupoli4048
@constantinoupoli4048 3 жыл бұрын
Because the all area have Turkey now before was Greece. For this reason all the acient buildings, theatre they have greeks inscriptions. Everybody now how many genocides you make to take this place. Armenians, Greeks Assyrian and Kurdish
@Cl0ckcl0ck
@Cl0ckcl0ck 3 жыл бұрын
Politicians start the wars but the soldiers die.....
@tunaburnak5650
@tunaburnak5650 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep your respect if you’re going to debate with someone you never saw and never will on the internet, because you can’t change someone’s deep political thoughts, especially when you don’t even know them. In the end we all used to live together, Turkey might have invaded Greece illegally, but what about the things the Greeks did to Turkish civilians? See, there’s no end to this, it’s war, what did you expect?
@videomachine0
@videomachine0 3 жыл бұрын
Two short = 2 AIM-9 Sidewinder , two long= 2 AIM-120 AMRAAM
@Boomshakalaga
@Boomshakalaga 3 жыл бұрын
@@bannedone3ice138 it’s probably not in us airforce thing. In Turkish it is “ iki uzun iki kısa” wich you can use for almost anything
@sametaltuntas8998
@sametaltuntas8998 Жыл бұрын
If you guys stilleri Wonder after 2years it means 2mid/short range lock 2long range lock
@aviator1111
@aviator1111 6 ай бұрын
@@sametaltuntas8998 ne mid long range locku kardeş füzeyle alakalı sadece kilitin ne alakası var
@godoff.5304
@godoff.5304 3 жыл бұрын
""TANGO-1 NEVER DIES""......
@gereksizyorumcu3075
@gereksizyorumcu3075 3 жыл бұрын
tatbikatta yeni teğmenler defalarca vurmasına rağmen tango - 1 in kabul etmemesi üzerine geyiği yapılan bir söz
@mubinburakakkaya174
@mubinburakakkaya174 3 жыл бұрын
@@gereksizyorumcu3075 ayhan abiyi izle o anlatsın olayı
@trakyabeyienver7633
@trakyabeyienver7633 3 жыл бұрын
@@gereksizyorumcu3075 adın gibi harbi gereksiz Bi insansın. Öğrende gel
@mubinburakakkaya174
@mubinburakakkaya174 3 жыл бұрын
@Erencan Ayhan ne gereksiz bir yorum yapmışsın
@mubinburakakkaya174
@mubinburakakkaya174 3 жыл бұрын
@Erencan Ayhan sende türkiyenin karanlık gerçeğisin
@darthvader4899
@darthvader4899 3 жыл бұрын
Rules of Engagement. No side wants to be the one who starts the war. So they are following the engagement rules.
@davebeattie9573
@davebeattie9573 3 жыл бұрын
While serving with the British Army, I spent about two and a half years stationed in Cyprus. During my time there, I was aware of SIX separate incidents of weapons fire across "The Green Line". "The Green Line" is how the British Army referred to the UN controlled border between Turkish Northern Cyprus and Greek Southern Cyprus. These incidents always caused tensions to spike and the threat level to be raised. Cyprus is a hotly contested issue between both Turkey and Greece, and both sides are more than willing to trade fire, even if it is against the rules of engagement.
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
@@davebeattie9573 Where did u serve? My cousin was posted in kyrenia. Also he was mention about incidents about shooting both sides but not in lethal way.
@davebeattie9573
@davebeattie9573 3 жыл бұрын
@@echolon3 After basic and trade training in the UK, I was posted to Germany (Gutersloh), Cyprus (Episkopi and Troodos) and then back to Germany (Bruggen). Never got to go to the Northern (Turkish controlled) side of Cyprus, as it is technically not recognized as a legitimate state and as a serving soldier, it was forbidden. As I was serving in the last years of the Cold War, Cyprus was always considered as a "holiday posting", in that you weren't on the lines against the Warsaw Pact. Yet in Germany there was always an understanding that because both sides had the power to wipe out all life on the planet many times over that there would never be an actual conflict, as the political leaders of both sides knew that any conflict between them wouldn't remain conventional for long. This meant that no matter how problematic things got, you always felt sure that a fight wouldn't happen. It was a common thought among those I served with, that these tension increases were actually done deliberately to justify/increase defense spending. The situation in Cyprus was always a precarious one. Each time there was an exchange of fire across the Green Line, there was a very real sense that this would result in a renewal of the conflict. Of the six incidents I was aware of, two resulted in casualties with one of those being fatal. The UN peace keepers along the Green Line had little chance of stopping either side if things degenerated in to all out war, and this would see the UK plunged into yet another war, due to the UK having two Sovereign Base Areas in the Greek controlled side, and they are technically UK sovereign territory. This feeling of impending conflict felt heightened as neither side had the fear of global extermination to worry about, as they were both in NATO, and NATO wouldn't use nukes on their own allies.
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
@@davebeattie9573 I feel you in the same way. But current conflict seems only occur to regional sea battle or conflicts. I don't expect a war or something.. I think both sides wont got into a full scale combat. Both country economies are not suspend long orientated conflict. Nato should take a part in both sides to erase that anticipation in aegean sea. If it may be happens, greece and turkey must become partners in aegean waters to find natural hydro carbon based resources.
@nicholasgiokas3111
@nicholasgiokas3111 3 жыл бұрын
Dave Beattie Correction: The south is The Republic of Cyprus which is the legitimate government of the island and internationally recognized, not “Greek Southern Cyprus”. There is no “Turkish Northern Cyprus”, but there is a puppet state in the northern Turkish occupied portion of the island which is recognized by no other country except the illegally occupying power, ie Turkey.
@bdh985
@bdh985 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video as usual, Mover! Interesting hud footage for sure but yeah, this was as you said a pretty benign event and spliced, so I don't understand why everyone was super excited when the footage came out. Can't wait for the interview coming up!
@afpwarmodernizationarchive1320
@afpwarmodernizationarchive1320 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explaination of HUD symbologies and their meaning
@farisalamshah5363
@farisalamshah5363 3 жыл бұрын
I notice every fighter pilots have a pair of a very sharp eyes.. They were trained to look and process informations without moving much of their head.. Look at the way Mover move his eyes 👀 Real classy and mad respect ✊
@thefellathathuntsvatniks
@thefellathathuntsvatniks 3 жыл бұрын
For Cellphone users: 0:00 Turkish F-16 vs Greek F-16 0:07 Situation 0:52 Intro 2:22 Play Through Reaction 4:38 Analysis/Breakdown 14:01 Is it REAL or FAKE? 21:30 Closing
@kenlv1980
@kenlv1980 3 жыл бұрын
@@alaric_3015 me to outdated KZfaq
@lord3348
@lord3348 3 жыл бұрын
That was real dog fight
@galipcelik9293
@galipcelik9293 3 жыл бұрын
132. Hançer Squadron
@sepultallica2654
@sepultallica2654 3 жыл бұрын
♥️🇹🇷Turkish Air Force 🇹🇷 ♥️ 🇹🇷🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🤜🇬🇷 🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷💪🇹🇷 🤜🇬🇷 👇 🥴 🤕
@mert1208
@mert1208 3 жыл бұрын
A ticket to go heaven is coming from this comment :)
@siddhantpatel7573
@siddhantpatel7573 3 жыл бұрын
Once again great video Mover, nice breakdown of flight video, nice explanation of F-16 HUD. Thanks for making a great video 👍🏻.
@samuelli-a-sam
@samuelli-a-sam 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for elaborating! News worldwide should take your information and explain to the world how this was not a threat but just an intercept
@gamerspitt8089
@gamerspitt8089 2 жыл бұрын
didint knew you flew F-16s also mover, you are so amazing! im watching your channel from the begining almost, plz don't stop!
@muratyilmaz6082
@muratyilmaz6082 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very professional brake down of the clip without getting in to the politics of it..wish more people could do analyses like you are doeing withour getting emotionally involved.
@KaptanBaha
@KaptanBaha 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review. Was looking forward to your take on this. I think both air forces agreed to fly on SIM mode for some time. I know for a while both parties agreed to disarm their patrol flights but that might be a thing of the past now.
@a.n.o.n.i.m.
@a.n.o.n.i.m. 3 жыл бұрын
Adamın dediklerini anlamadım dostum ben gerçek mi diyor sahte mi diyor sen anladın mı?
@first_last-
@first_last- 3 жыл бұрын
@@a.n.o.n.i.m. Speak English.
@a.n.o.n.i.m.
@a.n.o.n.i.m. 3 жыл бұрын
first last, ok, fuck off
@first_last-
@first_last- 3 жыл бұрын
@@tuncayardaemir5026 Aww, too stupid to speak English? That's sad.
@dezzy6028
@dezzy6028 3 жыл бұрын
first last Americans can speak english so, the ability to speak english doesn’t make you smart
@jimnaz5267
@jimnaz5267 3 жыл бұрын
you do a good job of sorting things out. thanks for sharing your experience and knowledge with us.
@keithshoffner1287
@keithshoffner1287 3 жыл бұрын
hey hey C dub, thank you for the videos and the walk-throughs on the engagement vids as well as the accident investigation reports you do a really great job on them (imop). You said you thought the huds are maybe 480p, is there a reason for such a lo res ? The cost for upping the res isn't worth the value ? Your $00.02 please ? Thank you for your service.
@Kawboy65
@Kawboy65 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid, looked forward to Fridays because it was the last day of school for the week. As an adult, look forward to Monday because of "Mondays with Mover".
@hectorsalinasdiaz7277
@hectorsalinasdiaz7277 3 жыл бұрын
Great video again Mover, hello from Valparaíso, Chile
@saiduslu7681
@saiduslu7681 3 жыл бұрын
13:40 @C.W.LEmonie, long and short drop means Aim120b,c and Aim 9m,x etc
@deniztemiz2301
@deniztemiz2301 Жыл бұрын
In TurAF terminology the term "Long" (Uzun) means Long Range AA missile and "Short" (Kısa) is for Short Range AA missile. So Hellenic Viper is armed with 2 AIM-120 and 2 AIM-9 according to Turkish pilot...
@Ryugengo
@Ryugengo 3 жыл бұрын
13:38 two long two short means two aim-120's and two aim-9's
@oktayyalcn2621
@oktayyalcn2621 3 жыл бұрын
Video da genel anlamda ne diyor ?
@eo2189
@eo2189 3 жыл бұрын
@@oktayyalcn2621 uzun uzun görüntülerin sahte olup olmadığını tartışıyor... Sonuçta kesin birsey söyleyemem diyor
@wishmaster6
@wishmaster6 3 жыл бұрын
@Jonas Savimbi Yunanlılar görüntülerin fake olduğunu ve diğer uçaklarında türk f16sı olduğunu ve eğitim yaptıklarını iddia ettiği için böyle bir açıklama getirmiş ve kesinlikle ayıramadığını söylemiş.
@wishmaster6
@wishmaster6 3 жыл бұрын
@Jonas Savimbi what is that suppose to mean?
@SpartanLeonidas1821
@SpartanLeonidas1821 3 жыл бұрын
wishmaster6 it means: DEUS VULT THEOS VOULETAI Thanks! 👋
@Alejandrogonzalez_real
@Alejandrogonzalez_real 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to start your morning is with a big cup of coffee and Mover breaking down dogfights!
@ar5000
@ar5000 Жыл бұрын
When switching from SIM to Master Arm, is there any delay while weapons boot up, warm up, etc. Or are they ready to go immediately?
@dnzkrblt
@dnzkrblt 2 жыл бұрын
When I'd been in Dikili/ Izmir on last summer, I eyewitnessed dog fight. Two country occasionally do this at the Egea Sea. I think it is a military exercise for both side.
@Mertcan_atasoy
@Mertcan_atasoy 2 жыл бұрын
no, in this case, the greek pilot was about to enter turkish airspace
@temmuzvurgec9625
@temmuzvurgec9625 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mertcan_atasoy he mean it this,not 4real his joking
@SteliosE92
@SteliosE92 Жыл бұрын
@@Mertcan_atasoy what turkish airspace lies between crete and Cyprus? you guys are living in your own fantasy world wtf.
@fentom4763
@fentom4763 Жыл бұрын
@@SteliosE92 LTBB South and LTAA South. YOU are the one living in a fantasy world.
@SteliosE92
@SteliosE92 Жыл бұрын
@@fentom4763 If i was living in a fantasy world I would try to make a country out of thin air in an occupied zone. You are full of shit. You are saying for a flight between crete and Cyprus, greek forces went 300KM out of their way, over land, just to mess with you. Please stop embarrassing yourself any more.
@constantinosbikos7125
@constantinosbikos7125 3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent analysis. Thank you for this 👍👍
@5thGenNativeTexan
@5thGenNativeTexan 3 жыл бұрын
Love the breakdown and hearing your perspective on these type of encounters! Any thoughts on doing one on intercepts / encounters where US fighters interact with Russian Tu-142s, Tu-95, etc.. or the other way around with encounters like the recent B-52 and Russian Flankers?
@alexanderryan-jones600
@alexanderryan-jones600 3 жыл бұрын
12:04 - What are those crosses? Closest thing I've seen to that was in a low-level Harrier video where they were supposed to be IR hot-spots?
@aydincakiroglu1665
@aydincakiroglu1665 2 жыл бұрын
İt may be simulated gun shots.
@mr.nonsense1015
@mr.nonsense1015 2 ай бұрын
I think They Are civilian airplanes but I could be wrong
@denisk751
@denisk751 3 жыл бұрын
Two long, two short... They are talking about the type of missiles they are carrying.
@omurozyurt4385
@omurozyurt4385 3 жыл бұрын
it means greek viper has 2 aim120s and 2 aim9s and drop tank
@mehmedmehmedov4947
@mehmedmehmedov4947 3 жыл бұрын
@@omurozyurt4385 I carry only one long for greek viper :DDDD
@omurozyurt4385
@omurozyurt4385 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlueWolf1399 dont have any exprience about flying with that jets but its what he said. if you know what they cant see so its
@andreas2291
@andreas2291 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you to make a video on this since I saw the original clip (hud footage) posted.
@_____J_____
@_____J_____ 3 жыл бұрын
Same, saw it on warleaks
@abdiiabduosman4746
@abdiiabduosman4746 3 жыл бұрын
Me too thanks
@f.t.4595
@f.t.4595 3 жыл бұрын
Me too...👍🏼
@Gregory-vb7lh
@Gregory-vb7lh 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't waiting him to make a video about the Turkish propaganda
@georgealexandris8043
@georgealexandris8043 3 жыл бұрын
Real or not it’s always nice to hear a professional point of view and not the usual bs from people who have only seen fighters in films
@mercygatobu3787
@mercygatobu3787 3 жыл бұрын
You are right.
@Polo-rn8ly
@Polo-rn8ly Жыл бұрын
You question its reality because you greeks get recked.
@happygolucky8245
@happygolucky8245 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mover hope your well nice to see different hud symbology on aircraft so different to the harrier hud Well hope your cars doing ok I’ve just got back from work in Germany and Denmark and just hired a Nissan GT-R for a week wow what a motor 0-60 mph 2.8 seconds pitty it’s rained in uk for a lot of the time I had it Miss your helicopter vlogs man
@metinkorkmaz7968
@metinkorkmaz7968 3 жыл бұрын
Bir Türk pilot atasözü der ki : "Öndekine çakabilirim" 😀
@ardaakkaya2122
@ardaakkaya2122 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
hahahah :) Bir türk atasözü der ki: "Alayına Gider"
@fatihdemiral7187
@fatihdemiral7187 3 жыл бұрын
🇹🇷
@ChrisTheDude
@ChrisTheDude 3 жыл бұрын
Your time will come bastards! better get up and start running 🇬🇷🇬🇷🇦🇺🇦🇺
@metinkorkmaz7968
@metinkorkmaz7968 3 жыл бұрын
ChrisTheDud3 I wish the time comes son of the bitch. We already respect this. Sign up for swimming course because will be needed😡🇹🇷💪
@kewkabe
@kewkabe 3 жыл бұрын
I'd think "SIM" mode would be an extra layer of safety to prevent an international incident. When you're not engaged in hostilities with any other countries, and you see a handful of aircraft coming toward you, it's almost certainly going to be just a probe of your defenses or diplomatic-directed show of aggression with no intent to actually engage (e.g. what US and Russia do a lot). It's also why they never pulled the trigger, another layer of safety (but in case they did out of instinct, SIM mode would still prevent anything).
@AngeloBarovierSD
@AngeloBarovierSD 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would suspect it's a protocol created by their ROE, where they need HQ clearance to come off of SIM mode.
@thebgpikester
@thebgpikester 3 жыл бұрын
no, it's a training aid that allows you to use the weapons sensors, display fully and press pickle to ensure all the valid sequences for a valid weapon release are followed. Everything is training, even if it's a live intercept, it's training, so SIM seems absolutley valid, although, it does give away the mental state of the pilot and he doesnt seem stressed or under threat.
@Error-33
@Error-33 Жыл бұрын
as a turk with greek friends i 100% agree us turkish military has a rule that we can NEVER ever shoot greek aircraft unless they break this rule first same thing goes for greece we all dogfight on sim mode because we don't want to shoot each other we just want the other person to get out of there with no war starting greek people are nice ngl and politics kinda just separates us two people of two different countries and us dogfighting like this also trains both pilots of the countries aswell
@user-ec8cp1rq7j
@user-ec8cp1rq7j Жыл бұрын
@@thebgpikester ..
@miltospep21
@miltospep21 Жыл бұрын
Things are much more complicated than that. First of all what you call a diplomatic show of aggression is not just a perception addressed to the military. Furthermore it has specific name and agenda. Such agenda finds a convenient audience to the hole population of countries with emerging economies that provided a lot of weaponry but fragile enough to keep enormous inflation. Countries with mass population, controlled media and regulated by tight laws of criticism. Countries with a twisted perception of their "vital space" and "interests throughout three continents". Countries with a proven history and present of disregard to international law. Countries with leadership and people with absolute belief in the law of the mightest embedded to their perception of solving differences. Countries with alliances with dictators and invaders, very recent ones. Countries that of course have very low standards of democracy, eternal leaders (or Sultans) making fortunes and palaces on the public treasury, with the highest percentage of imprisoned journalists, judges, officers, teachers and so on, than any other country in the world under charges of "insulting the President" or "anti-countrysname-ism". Which is this country needs no introduction. You just have to listen its President in the G20 summit in Indonesia declaring in front of the international Press that, "coming one night" ,meaning invading to the neighboring country, is his country official dogma or " 2 or 3 persons are not sitting tight" meaning the other country 's Prime minister and minister of Foreign Affairs, as if they are some kind of public clerks of the smallest province of his country, are not behaving the way he wants. This country's officials speaks of the other country 's people as "low life's bastards that need to take swim lessons" (sic: President Erdogan speaking of the Greek people in recent public speech), showing maps with half his neighbour territory as his own. It seems surreal but yes, such a President and surrounding political establishment is a neighbor to Europe.The daily overflights of Greek soil is just another piece of the puzzle in Turkey's hostility that finally aims to militarily invade (under her very own statements besides the true indications) and anex half of the Greek islands because "they are too close and roosters can be heard to us" ( actual claim of President Erdogan during public speech). There was a thought to slaughter the roosters in Greek islands but then we thought that warms would bother him also; apart from the difficulty of the task to extinct warms we find it improper to deprive mr. Erdogan of his perfect match in case he ever made it to our islands. Feel free to educate yourself on the extremities and daily provocations of Turkey 🦃 that led her under the scorn of Germany and US, her most solid allies till recently.
@returnofthestrangers
@returnofthestrangers 3 жыл бұрын
Great analysis as usual, never biased always neutral simple sign of a good professional pilot and a good youtuber 👍
@michaelharos5254
@michaelharos5254 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely wrong he did not pick up that this was Turkish van Turkish and you could Google that this was fake because the next day it came out that it was Turkish on Turkish the Greeks always wipe the floor with the Turkish pilots and they always win the best Pilots aboard how did he get fooled everybody in the International Community was embarrassed by this
@TerebitMedia
@TerebitMedia 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelharos5254 lol what an idiot
@efedrikoefedriko182
@efedrikoefedriko182 3 жыл бұрын
GREEK FORCE
@billkar8129
@billkar8129 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video Mover! You're doing the right thing man, as long as you stay out of political analysis, and present the experienced pilot's view, you're spot-on. Aim high! I know this is irrelevant, but would it be easy to make a video of functions on the ICP panel some day?
@AKRITAS365
@AKRITAS365 Жыл бұрын
The Greek pilots are more skillful than the Turkish pilots clearly confirmed in the dog fights and in te international competitions.
@AKRITAS365
@AKRITAS365 Жыл бұрын
@@melihaydogan9383 It was spains airforce fault tourkomongol ! Read the article first and then open your mouth
@apostolispat5462
@apostolispat5462 3 жыл бұрын
any chance of a video explaining the major differences/advantances of the final version " real vipers" of f16 and its older versions? thank you
@s3viking214
@s3viking214 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this breakdown. Especially the fuel part
@bluerex03
@bluerex03 3 жыл бұрын
I worked on F-16s at Aviano & we called them Vipers (or, sometimes, the electric jet). I loved working on those aircraft
@robertlassiter5808
@robertlassiter5808 3 жыл бұрын
bluerex03 I also worked on them at Kunsan 81-83. Was an electrician. 80-81 at McDill before going to Korea. Worked on F-15’s at Langley 76-80. I personally preferred the F-15 because they were easier to troubleshoot but they broke more than the F-16. Went all over the Pacific fixing F-16’s . I got lots of TDY because of it. Funny, we never called them Vipers though. Good for you dude for your Air Force time. Wouldn’t trade mine for anything.
@BLUEYENKO
@BLUEYENKO 3 жыл бұрын
I worked F-16’s at Shaw and I never heard them called Vipers, we had Block 40 and Block 50’s. 91-95 era.
@robertlassiter5808
@robertlassiter5808 3 жыл бұрын
BLUEYENKO I personally don’t like the Viper thing. They were Fighting Falcons. That was their name.
@RyTrapp0
@RyTrapp0 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertlassiter5808 ...and the A-10 Thunderbolt II isn't actually a "Warthog", right? They're just nicknames - hence why some saying they called every F16 a 'viper' while others are saying that they never heard that during their time; different times, different places.
@robertlassiter5808
@robertlassiter5808 3 жыл бұрын
RyTrapp0 That’s true. They called the F-111 the aardvark. I believe pilots were more apt to go for the nicknames.
@giannisgiannis870
@giannisgiannis870 3 жыл бұрын
American airplane vs American airplane..Who is the winner?Americans.Why?They give airplanes to some countries and they laugh because these airplanes fight each other.
@Royallz15
@Royallz15 3 жыл бұрын
Some countries make their own version of it.
@dreamofsomeyoungguy9883
@dreamofsomeyoungguy9883 3 жыл бұрын
You own the plane when it’s running a us software. In this case Greece is still using a US software but Turkey isn’t. So turkey can use the bombs that they make but on the other hand Greece is depended on US bombs
@georgepapias7726
@georgepapias7726 3 жыл бұрын
That island is Greece you handicapped Turkey 🦃🦃 Borders are borders. If you don’t like them you can go back 10-20 generations somewhere between Mongolia and Persia.... Seljuk Turk
@RobloxAli6734
@RobloxAli6734 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgepapias7726 Mr Papias we dont want to back to Asia. There is not such as a force on earth you know. Maybe we want to take back Selanik. Please save there strongly. Last thing. You are a very ancient civilization. While decades centuries central and northern European folks clean asses with stone, you established city countries. Dont go behind them please.
3 жыл бұрын
@@dreamofsomeyoungguy9883 Bullshit.. Those "turkish" f16s are armed with aim 9s and aim 120s..
@Rorynes
@Rorynes 3 жыл бұрын
The Greek vipers went to Cyprus undetected and in their return flight to Crete the Turkish vipers that were searching for them were intercepted by other Greek vipers from Crete.One of the Turkish viper returned due to fuel shortage..The cut of scenes and the fact that vipers with CFT exist also in tuaf it is a video with Turkish f-16 that train eachother...
@thanassisveggos627
@thanassisveggos627 Жыл бұрын
I wasn't aware Turkish F-16s were upgraded to Vioers
@apmikalogran
@apmikalogran Жыл бұрын
Turkish aren’t viper Some grams turned to viper recently
@Diesel0012002
@Diesel0012002 3 жыл бұрын
Can't even see the whole shirt but it looks wicked, Mover.
@Surtur1x
@Surtur1x 3 жыл бұрын
3:11 Turkish Pilot says: " i can hit the one in the front.
@yunus3435
@yunus3435 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t say that u clearly haven’t watched clearly 😂🤦🏻‍♂️
@gelecek488
@gelecek488 3 жыл бұрын
@@yunus3435 Öndekine çakabilirim ne demek
@mustafapolat6530
@mustafapolat6530 3 жыл бұрын
@@yunus3435 mal mısın yunus sen Adam önümde olan yunan f 16 vurabilir diyor ,komutanına soruyor vurayım mı diye , ulan var ya senin gibi mal çok bu ülkede yunus
@gogeyeryuzune9095
@gogeyeryuzune9095 3 жыл бұрын
It is more like in the lines of "I can nail the one on the front". A bit more sensation and excitement. :)
@enesergul2389
@enesergul2389 3 жыл бұрын
çakabilirim means fuck. i can fuck the one in the front
@Trigenetic
@Trigenetic 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there sir! I got a couple of questions for ya being a Viper pilot. I got a motion rig and im curious if you can feel the weapon release well, Missiles and bombs? Also the cannon? If you wouldnt mind taking a quick minute describing if its a quick thump, sharp thing, how much you feel and so on you'd make a virtual one forever grateful! Cheers.
@kainhall
@kainhall 3 жыл бұрын
your gonna feel a "buzz" for the cannon . bombs your going to feel the drag reduction.... and if the flight computer doesnt adjust (or you are flying a plane with out)... its going to pitch up . missiles your just going to hear a WOOSH
@user-sd5tr3sd9o
@user-sd5tr3sd9o Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video analysis Mover. The problems between Greece and Turkey and their disputes are well known. They usually do not fire on each other, as this would mean a clear declaration of war (there have been a couple of notable exceptions), although they try to get a lock on each other or outmaneuver each other sometimes in a dangerous manner that could lead to accidents due to human failure or stress on the jets themselves. It is a form of diplomacy. What you can see in this video edit is actually a fusion of not one but various HAF and THK dogfights that took place between Greek and Turkish fighter jets not over the Aegean but most probably over the Mediterranean (in the region east of Crete and west of Cyprus). Usually HAF Mirages and vipers intercept THK F-16s over the Aegean as the THK daily conducts overflights over the Greek Aegean islands. Specifically this compilation is from footage pertaining to dogfights that took place in a number of instances since 2017 over the Eastern Mediterranean when HAF jets were returning from Cyprus after they flew there in order to participate in the celebration of the Cypriot Independence day or in order to take part in bilateral military exercises with the Cypriot National Guard and/or the IAF. As Turkiye tries to prevent any flights of HAF planes flying to Cyprus due to their terittorial claims they would attempt to prevent the HAF jets from reaching Cyprus. That would be considered a THK success. They fail however on all counts as the HAF vipers always have managed thus far to reach Cyprus undetected. At some points during their flights to Cyprus HAF vipers have to fly at 500 ft or less to evade detection East of Crete or fly during specific times of day when Turkish radars are not switched on. This footage is most probably taken from some of these run-ins during the return flights of the HAF F-16s from Cyprus to Suda base.
@omercanklc798
@omercanklc798 3 жыл бұрын
2 short, 2 long mean is Short: aim 9 Long: aim 120
@sava_e6369
@sava_e6369 3 жыл бұрын
ömer can kılıç Long AMRAAM değil mi?
@oktayyalcn2621
@oktayyalcn2621 3 жыл бұрын
@@sava_e6369 video da ne diyor kısaca açıklarmısın ?
@omercanklc798
@omercanklc798 3 жыл бұрын
@@sava_e6369 evet
@orhan6211
@orhan6211 3 жыл бұрын
@@sava_e6369 aynı şey
@mustafakeskin5429
@mustafakeskin5429 3 жыл бұрын
Ne diyorlar video hakkında hocam,İngilizcem zayıf da.2 cümle özet geçer misin
@fullmoon6661
@fullmoon6661 3 жыл бұрын
Mover videos are the kind of videos I press like before even start watching it lol
@Chukwillard
@Chukwillard 3 жыл бұрын
I do the same.
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III
@Rutherford_Inchworm_III 3 жыл бұрын
Cut straight to the man's bottom line - I can see why he gave you a heart...
@baykazdal
@baykazdal 3 жыл бұрын
So how can i get those books is there an option to get them delievered to Turkey?
@agentstv1584
@agentstv1584 3 жыл бұрын
Every aviation incidence Le Mover: Let's investigate 😁✌️
@ph5915
@ph5915 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I had wondered how it got nicknamed the Viper. The official name from General Dynamics was "Fighting Falcon". Falcon's are awesome - fst and agile hunters, I wonder why that just wasn't kept.
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS 3 жыл бұрын
Planes have long had nicknames. Nobody calls a A-10 the Thunderbolt 2. Nobody calls B-52 a Stratofortress.
@ph5915
@ph5915 3 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS Good point, thanks, Walter. I guess in my mind I didn't think 'Falcon' was bad, it's still 2 syllables...LOL.
@GrizzAxxemann
@GrizzAxxemann 3 жыл бұрын
The F-16 came into production when Battlestar Galactica was on TV. The starfighters were called Vipers. The guys going F-16s loved that show.
@johns.7609
@johns.7609 3 жыл бұрын
manos filips as he said, viper has been the pilots’ name for the f-16 since the 1970’s. This is undisputed in the viper community.
@treerat7631
@treerat7631 3 жыл бұрын
@@WALTERBROADDUS yep A10 is Worthhog, B 52 is BUFF
@firstofficerchris1321
@firstofficerchris1321 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting to see him review the Russian SU27 do an “unprofessional” intercept of a USAF B52
@flyingtigers3376
@flyingtigers3376 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to say the same.
@kiwimodz
@kiwimodz 3 жыл бұрын
Really want a "F-16 dodging 6 Iraqi SAM launches on Jan 19 1991" reaction
@bdh985
@bdh985 3 жыл бұрын
If someone in a combat aircraft pulled across your nose while you were flying in your airliner with no warning, 100 feet away, you wouldn't view that as unprofessional?
@Fox-One1937
@Fox-One1937 3 жыл бұрын
@@kiwimodz confidential
@first_last-
@first_last- 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fox-One1937 not really dumbass
@rrocketman
@rrocketman 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting analysis
@awnina7627
@awnina7627 3 жыл бұрын
4:28 make sure you put extra thermal paste and tweezers hahahaha
@Rell6000
@Rell6000 3 жыл бұрын
STILL ALIVE?
@kevinwells4986
@kevinwells4986 3 жыл бұрын
Have to ask this C.W. How do the instruments know that they are in sim mode? This is an agreed upon protocol, yes? I never thought about it before, but I guess among Turkish and Greece forces this would be a standard protocol (NATO, or otherwise) Anyway, I'm glad they have that info in-flight. BTW, I'm up late, so I will shut up now - except I am such a darn fan of your site.
@hoilst
@hoilst 3 жыл бұрын
That "multicolor" thing is likely from whatever video recording system they use on their F-16 (looks like interlacing gone a bit nuts), or just good ol' chromatic aberration from the lenses. As high-tech as the F-16 is, I doubt they're putting in super achromatic rare-earth glass elements hand-ground by some German dude in the HUD camera.
@perseusarkouda
@perseusarkouda 3 жыл бұрын
Carl Zeiss glass lol I was thinking the same. That's probably chromatic aberration.
@afrosch6357
@afrosch6357 3 жыл бұрын
FEINSTE WERTARBEIT MEIN FREUND
@Vaios1981
@Vaios1981 3 жыл бұрын
Very well commented. Professionally, to the point and without unnecessary drama.
@PeDr0.UY131
@PeDr0.UY131 3 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. Greetings from Uruguay. You can react to Low Pass Argentines ,or C17 Globemaster in brisbane
@vn6139
@vn6139 3 жыл бұрын
Almost every day this type of so called dog fights happen between TUAF and HAF. Always videos will be released like this in one side and then the other. On defensive side pilots doesnt want to make too much agressive manuevers just in case it can get too hot too quickly. Same as offensive side, thats why they are in sim mode ı think. Its just daily routine for them imo. More interesting thing is except for the extreme nationalists both Turkish and Greek people actually getting along no problem. Its the conflict between ruling goverments not the people.
@Panos121972
@Panos121972 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@nikosnas2184
@nikosnas2184 3 жыл бұрын
i believe that turkish people are fed lies and that erdogan is a big idiot for demanding from us. The lausanne treaty says no to them. Anyone who believes that turkey owns our sea is a fool.
@celebor6531
@celebor6531 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikosnas2184 I belive Who believes greak sea such a idiot
@GokhanAksu89
@GokhanAksu89 3 жыл бұрын
@@nikosnas2184 Do not delay the last installment to Germany.
@andreas8491
@andreas8491 3 жыл бұрын
@-Hyper Tell that to warship "AVEROF" aka "seitan papor" or to frigate LIMNOS
@johnhermann842
@johnhermann842 3 жыл бұрын
Why am I yelling at the screen “JINK”?
@IkmelAAA
@IkmelAAA 3 жыл бұрын
omg same 😂😂😂
@Mando_9833
@Mando_9833 3 жыл бұрын
Unrelated to this video but I wanted to thank you for helping me figure out what I need to do to have my dream job. I’m a sophomore in highschool and figuring out my first steps to become a pilot. Even though I have a year until I apply for college it’s very stressful. I am going to apply for the USNA and USAFA and I am so glad I am researching now instead of later. I never imagined how much prep and work I am going to put in to do what I dream to do. But hey, I’m going to grind through it. Make them tell me no (twice). I have a long road ahead but I’m ready to take it on!
@peter12246
@peter12246 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck Eddie 👍🏻
@oghuzkhan5117
@oghuzkhan5117 3 жыл бұрын
To do what? Kill innocent people around the world, so the zionist can earn money? Or are you going to bring freedom to Afghanistan? And what makes you think that people in Afghanistan wants your kind of freedom and lifestyle? Is the world obligated to live like you?
@dukefleed8369
@dukefleed8369 3 жыл бұрын
What are the options for a jet fighter to be released from such a radar locked situation ?
@ghost1-594
@ghost1-594 3 жыл бұрын
two long two short isnt that like short range aim 9 and maybe long range aim120? something like that ?
@semihsert4929
@semihsert4929 3 жыл бұрын
yes , definetly
@seinfeld11123
@seinfeld11123 3 жыл бұрын
no 2 jets had 2 drop tanks, and the other jets didn't . so all 4 had conformal tanks, but only 2 had drop tanks. this is so the jets without the external tanks can maneuver better. they were the escorts
@Stickers96
@Stickers96 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, we don't know like he said.
@ercanyesiltas
@ercanyesiltas 3 жыл бұрын
@@seinfeld11123 wrong.
@orhan6211
@orhan6211 3 жыл бұрын
exactly. Two long range missiles (probably Amraam 120s) , and two short range heat seeking missiles, probably Aim 9 or Iris which the Hellenic airforce has both)
@Brandon-grant
@Brandon-grant 3 жыл бұрын
In future videos, it might be helpful to use some kind of mouse identifier (which should be built into Windows) when you are pointing specific things out, like air speed, altitude, etc, etc. Awesome video otherwise!
@CaptainRonAhoy
@CaptainRonAhoy 3 жыл бұрын
Cw....is there any way, in your next novel, an aircraft can inadvertently or otherwise drop some ordinance on the youtube advertising machine?......great video though......
@ThePositiev3x
@ThePositiev3x 3 жыл бұрын
As a veteran, if you see nothing to tag the video as fake, then it's not fake. You probably didn't want to offend anyone, that's why you're saying you are not sure.
@ArcherAC3
@ArcherAC3 3 жыл бұрын
What are the crosses on the HUD at 12:04?
@mallias2683
@mallias2683 3 жыл бұрын
Input from link16 showing other aircraft in the area, the actual targets of the turkish f-16s, they returned to their base without being harassed because they engaged in a silly 3g "dogfight" with baits.....
@mallias2683
@mallias2683 3 жыл бұрын
@A. Yuksel I did not find excuses for anything. I answered a question about the crosses. Do you believe they are something else? Please tell us. And as you do, I would like to read your comments about all the video footage from the HAF F16s that reached their target region, but wait, you intercepted them.....what is going on here......
@ArcherAC3
@ArcherAC3 3 жыл бұрын
@@mallias2683 Interesting, I didn't know data-link could also show friendly aircrafts in the HUD, only HSD.
@mallias2683
@mallias2683 3 жыл бұрын
@A. Yuksel We totally agree that this was a dogfight that was not supposed to get rough, as you point out correctly that the HAF f16 does not respond aggressively and just makes a continuous turn....The footage of the 6 f16s making a low pass above warships in the area of the exercise is on youtube, you can easily find it, so you did not intercept them. Just like the frigates collision incident, let us wait a few days.....more surprises might be seen from released videos.
@mallias2683
@mallias2683 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArcherAC3 They were not friendly aircrafts to the TAF from where we see the video. They were the 6 HAF that they were supposed to intercept returning from Cyprus, but they didn't. This video is a propaganda montage to show the Turks a victory....
@SLAF999
@SLAF999 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Mover, a very professional breakdown, and a lot of mutual "love" between turks and greek here , maybe a good idea for the next DCS tournament is taking these guys in the VR world sky and let them decide who is the best....without starting a war or killing each other in real life...
@skimilarydinky2144
@skimilarydinky2144 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it obvious who would win?
@Ulver27
@Ulver27 3 жыл бұрын
@@skimilarydinky2144 No. Greeks have also video of them locking TUAF aircraft.
@user-Prometheus
@user-Prometheus Жыл бұрын
@@skimilarydinky2144 The Hellenic Airforce would win.
@GlobalRage
@GlobalRage 3 жыл бұрын
@12:04 are the x on the video surface contacts?
@robertw6894
@robertw6894 3 жыл бұрын
how did you fly f16s AND f18s? they're in separate branches of the military, did you switch branches or something?
@SNKR_HEAD83
@SNKR_HEAD83 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm 😒🤔 good question
@TybrosionMojito
@TybrosionMojito 3 жыл бұрын
He did actually! There's a video on his channel detailing how he went from one to the other to continue flying. It's pretty neat.
@Kingrhem.
@Kingrhem. 2 жыл бұрын
F16s in the Air Force and F18s in the Navy he didn't like being far away from home so he requested to be in the navy aviation
@tasoszonios5021
@tasoszonios5021 3 жыл бұрын
3:25 "πάμε seperation για Ρόδο" subs "unintelligible" Translation from greek: lets go seperation for Rhodes
@TSHKKRipper
@TSHKKRipper 3 жыл бұрын
Nope! It is Turkish and says "Anlaşıldı, devam edin."
@tasoszonios5021
@tasoszonios5021 3 жыл бұрын
@@TSHKKRipper amy greek speaker can clearly hear what he says im pretty sure its greek
@TSHKKRipper
@TSHKKRipper 3 жыл бұрын
@@tasoszonios5021 I am Turkish speaker and I am sure he is saying "Anlaşıldı, devam edin."
@MetinAksoyYT
@MetinAksoyYT 3 жыл бұрын
@@tasoszonios5021 I understand also "Anlaşıldı, devam edin." :-)
@nick_516
@nick_516 3 жыл бұрын
@@tasoszonios5021 και εγώ αυτό ακούω που λες
@skywatcher71
@skywatcher71 3 жыл бұрын
the pilots from land where IKARUS was born are not that easy (according to nato statistics but you perhaps know that sir). all pilots and specially fighterpilots are wearing ikarus wings.
@codystout5353
@codystout5353 3 жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from mover. I'm trying to become a pilot. I served in the army. My gi bill will pay for flight training. However, I have to get my private pilots license first. I work every day trying to get money saved up. I just can't do it. I'm taking care of my sick mother and I will continue to do it even if it means giving up my dream.
@kainhall
@kainhall 3 жыл бұрын
family first man!!! . good work, and good luck it still might happen for ya.... Karma works in strange ways!
@turkishpunisher6386
@turkishpunisher6386 2 жыл бұрын
All the best to you and your mother.
@Danspy501st
@Danspy501st 3 жыл бұрын
I think, depending how the video came out the public, it could be an "old" training video between the two air forces. It wont surprise me if they would use that to make a statement or something like that. Beside, if it was the media that released the video, then they would most likely ramp up how dramatic the "encounter" was to sell papers and so on. Like what some medias likes to do between the Russian and other NATO allied air force each time one of those gets too close to each other
@deathstroke.6020
@deathstroke.6020 8 ай бұрын
Hayır bu gercek bir video. Bizim alanımıza giriyo Yunan uca Türk hava kuvvetleri de bunun cevabını veriyo.
@franklinosis9495
@franklinosis9495 3 жыл бұрын
From your explanation of "SIM" it would make sense that the TK Vipers began that way, seeing as both counties are NATO allies. Adversarial as states, but neither looking to rock that boat by shooting down an "ally".
@beke0007
@beke0007 3 жыл бұрын
Well, they did once, accidentally, but still...
@mtumeumrani376
@mtumeumrani376 3 жыл бұрын
Greece is jealous it's glory days parished with the roman empire. Meanwhile, Turkey is getting all the action above and below the blankets all over their borders. Greek F-16s are virgins compared to Turkish Falcons.
@thouxanbanvoulwn5146
@thouxanbanvoulwn5146 3 жыл бұрын
If it is reasonable using SIM and considering it a safe fight with no worry of being shot just by the fact that we are both NATO members there wouldn't be a fight at first place. Don't you agree? (No hate ❤️)
@thouxanbanvoulwn5146
@thouxanbanvoulwn5146 3 жыл бұрын
@@mtumeumrani376 sarcastic?
@mtumeumrani376
@mtumeumrani376 3 жыл бұрын
@@thouxanbanvoulwn5146 metaphorically speaking. When was the last time a Greek warplane shot down anything?
@KC98561
@KC98561 3 жыл бұрын
OR....The rules of engagement REQUIRE the aircraft to remain in SIM to prevent an accidental firing.
@BobInGreek
@BobInGreek 3 жыл бұрын
Not between greece and turkey
@canerg1151
@canerg1151 2 жыл бұрын
@@BobInGreek I'd say ESPECIALLY between Turkey and Greece, because interceptions like this happen on a daily basis on both sides.
@Polo-rn8ly
@Polo-rn8ly Жыл бұрын
@@canerg1151 it doesn't happy daily. Thats was in 1990s.
@AntonisKorakakis
@AntonisKorakakis 3 жыл бұрын
The head of the Greek pair says at 3:25 "pame separation gia Rhodo" which means let's go separation towards the Greek island of Rhodes. Typically this means the end of the interception of the Turkish fighters because of fuel. Happens regularly. That explains why the Greek fighter is not manoeuvering aggressively and abandons after a few seconds.
@serdarbay8760
@serdarbay8760 2 жыл бұрын
Greeko is nothing excuse is everthing😂
@serdarbay8760
@serdarbay8760 2 жыл бұрын
Yes hellenico Air force does not have any tanker airplane😭
@AntonisKorakakis
@AntonisKorakakis 2 жыл бұрын
@@serdarbay8760 I don't understand what you are saying and honestly, I don't care. Greece has enough planes to whip your ass.
@okhanuludag
@okhanuludag 2 жыл бұрын
Greeks are very Mad at this
@ghostofathens6600
@ghostofathens6600 Жыл бұрын
@@serdarbay8760 it’s a fake video even if it was real when a F16 carried extra fuel and when the F16 doesn’t try to fight back it proved that it’s either false or Greek f-16 didn’t care most importantly it’s fake if it was dogfight there would be speaking English you sure go to the airforce before you speak
@evanrinnyk50
@evanrinnyk50 2 жыл бұрын
Where in the HUD are you able to tell the distance between the 2 aircraft?
@jeff9104
@jeff9104 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, just curious but where did the term "Viper" come from ? I worked at Edwards AFB for 20 years and we flight tested various block F-16's and they were all called F-16 Falcon's
@toohottie001
@toohottie001 3 жыл бұрын
did you have the sound turned off? he tells you why...
@akmorf6609
@akmorf6609 3 жыл бұрын
From what i read it basicaly started from one of the first test pilots. And then voted among the pilots of that testing airbase to be called viper. But General Dynamics named it fighting falcon nevertheless. I never heard viper before in my life too, first time this year on videos from Americans in youtube. Maybe Viper has some sense for their aircrafts operating over land and deserts in America. But i doubt anywhere else in the world, and especially in Greece . We have no snakes over Aegean. We have Falcons defending Greek AirSpace.
@ozgurkaratas6450
@ozgurkaratas6450 3 жыл бұрын
Resembles a viper from the front on high angle of attack approach.
@jeff9104
@jeff9104 3 жыл бұрын
@@akmorf6609 Thanks for the clarification, I know General Dynamics didn't name the F-16 "Viper"
@jeff9104
@jeff9104 3 жыл бұрын
@@ozgurkaratas6450 Thanks, "Viper" does sound good !
@MrRee-kn4xd
@MrRee-kn4xd 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever made a video either supporting or debunking the F16 that India claims to have shot down with the Mig 21? There seems to be no consensus online as to whether or not it happened. Great video and I'm glad to have found your channel.
@fenerbahceeastbull320
@fenerbahceeastbull320 3 жыл бұрын
i dont know why but i still love the F-16 they re looking still amazing. Maybe one of the best fighter Jet US ever built
@JmsnCrpntr
@JmsnCrpntr 3 жыл бұрын
Mover, what were the X's on the HUD?
@kainhall
@kainhall 3 жыл бұрын
IIRC..... they are either way-points or it might be radars.... and the MWS system is plotting where it thinks they are coming from (and X mean friendly target) . but ya.... i was wondering that as well
@yanniskouretas8688
@yanniskouretas8688 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mover thanx again for taking the time to dive (a little bit) into the ongoing Greek - Turkish little cold war maneuvers. As I said in the previous HAF Mirage vs TUAF F-16 vid ,as an active duty HAF NCO that daily straps the pilot into the plane and launching him into the skies , I don't particularly give much attention to such snippets from HUD videos (in my 25 years of service I have seen enough AVTR to now which is legit or not) . Please bear in mind that at this time the countries are engaged in a protracted low intensity - long duration "conflict" and things are a bit more closer than ever into spiraling down into full fledged air-naval battle ... I don't know if those were Greek fighters under Turkish sights or not and in my opinion at this point it doesn't matter . In these situations it's a little bit like sports - sometimes you lose - can't win every time . But the claim that TUAF managed to prevent HAF F-16 from reaching Cyprus is false , as it is well documented via allied sources from their participation in scheduled maneuvers with French air & naval assets in the area ... You should expect more bragging videos like this from both sides in the following days-weeks-months... just my 2 cents
@oghuzkhan5117
@oghuzkhan5117 3 жыл бұрын
you got chased away like always.
@yanniskouretas8688
@yanniskouretas8688 3 жыл бұрын
@@oghuzkhan5117 You seem confused my friend ...
@hariszark7396
@hariszark7396 3 жыл бұрын
@@oghuzkhan5117 read some real history and get your facts together. Turkish airforce was looking for the Greek F-16s and trying to intercept them making them to go out of fuel but they couldn't find them in anyway...
@alperentosun5677
@alperentosun5677 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the point was to prevent greek jets from reaching cyprus. Turkish MoD stated that the greek jets were intercepted because they got close to the "NAVTEX area" in mediterranean. If i understood correctly they didn't claim that they prevented them from reaching cyprus they just said the fighters were drawn away from the area. Also i don't see a reason for MoD to release a fake footage. Like you said these types of situations happen all the time between the two countries and its not only greece who gets to "win" and release footage.
@yanniskouretas8688
@yanniskouretas8688 3 жыл бұрын
@@alperentosun5677 fair enough. I might misread the TUAF press release . It seems that both air forces had different operational goals at that day . HAF wanted to fly to Cyprus and play with the French & TUAF wanted to have an AVTR kill to save face ... Both won (or loose which-ever you want) . But this childish play "I beat you - You beat me" is unbecoming of a professional fighting force member of a huge western alliance (so to speak) ....
@joshuanishanthchristian5217
@joshuanishanthchristian5217 3 жыл бұрын
A Greek newspaper actually quoted your last video on the matter! Specifically your "They're making my Viper look bad" line
@solowingborders3239
@solowingborders3239 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a link? I'd like to see that.
@oreofudgeman
@oreofudgeman 3 жыл бұрын
In terms of flight combat, how limited are you in your maneuvers in real life as opposed to games and simulators due to g force ratings on an aircraft? How do you know when you're about to over g and damage an aircraft while flying?
@AD-gt6zh
@AD-gt6zh 2 жыл бұрын
The F16 has a CATI/III switch. CAT 3 when loaded with tanks and bombs. CAT I allows full mobility
@skeksis1085
@skeksis1085 Жыл бұрын
Each aircraft has a limit you can't exceed without seriously damaging the airframe. Your limits are more based off of what you're flying with (weapons, fuel, pods, etc) and what sustained Gs the pilot is willing to accept.
@siou3268
@siou3268 11 ай бұрын
Great analysis... Basically with CFTs I guess must be really hard to face a 2xWT-370 F-16.
@The28studio
@The28studio 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah,I think that what it is, they hate each other but not to the point to start a war. Its more like I see you kinda of a thing. And please,we dont need another war ...
@husnushepherd
@husnushepherd 3 жыл бұрын
It's not the hate of the people but rather the power battle of governments for local votes.
@sturmanaskie
@sturmanaskie 3 жыл бұрын
well it's about to happen
@agismad9911
@agismad9911 3 жыл бұрын
@@husnushepherd its the turks who think our land is theirs
@thebgpikester
@thebgpikester 3 жыл бұрын
Turkey invaded Cyprus in my lifetime. people have died on both sides. There has always been a conflict, this is just an extended ceasefire. And yes, Oil...
@agismad9911
@agismad9911 3 жыл бұрын
@@thebgpikester We greeks dont want the oil. Greece doesnt even have a way or the money to extract it. But it is in our waters and the turks will never touch it. Same goes with oil in cyprus.
@fennviktorvich
@fennviktorvich 3 жыл бұрын
The video just gives me "Lock on: modern air combat" vibes, the breathing, the sounds and all.
@kainhall
@kainhall 3 жыл бұрын
you should check out DCS flight sim . its literally "lo-mac"... but with 2021 graphics and MUCH higher detail and MUCH better flight models every button and switch is clickable....
@rojopachuga
@rojopachuga 3 жыл бұрын
I want the redshirt w the jordan wings on it, dopest shirt out!
@m3ntor332
@m3ntor332 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for not being biased
@sgtrpcommand3778
@sgtrpcommand3778 3 жыл бұрын
If the F16 “launched” in sim mode would the target it’s tracking get an RWR warning?
@venvapingcatcult7052
@venvapingcatcult7052 3 жыл бұрын
Turkish Viper was locking its AIM-9X Sidewinder. RWR wouldnt work.
@jackdonith
@jackdonith 3 жыл бұрын
@@venvapingcatcult7052 there is a years old similar video, Turkish F16 vs Greek Mirage2000 I think where the Turkish F16 gives something that sounds like such a warning during the dogfight. What could trigger such a warning?
@venvapingcatcult7052
@venvapingcatcult7052 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackdonith that was the Sidewinder's "lock on" sound. It means Mirage could launch a missile if the master arms switch was ARM instead of SIM. Or it could mean jamming. Both Turkish and Greek F-16s and Mirages have the best jamming pods in NATO.
@becauseiwasinverted5222
@becauseiwasinverted5222 3 жыл бұрын
No it would not. "Shooting" in SIM mode does not emit any kind of signal, so RWR would not detect anything to give a warning about. Generally pressing the trigger in SIM is only done to "record" a simulated firing on tape for debriefing/training purposes etc.
@caliphofbosnia
@caliphofbosnia 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackdonith It was the sound of Magic-II heatseeker missile that Greek M2000 use, French copy of Aim-9 Sidewinder.
@fixedguitar47
@fixedguitar47 3 жыл бұрын
I trained on the best simulator ever “F-16 Fighting Falcon” back in 1985! It was intense cause it never ended! It just kept pushing you till you couldn’t handle it anymore.
@fixedguitar47
@fixedguitar47 3 жыл бұрын
P38FORK - That’s garbage compared to the 1985 F-16 Fighting Falcon simulator. There’s even a video of it somewhere on KZfaq.
@fixedguitar47
@fixedguitar47 3 жыл бұрын
P38FORK - Here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/epqigJaQyNLFcqc.html Its INTENSE! I was an Ace! Just incredible. If I wasn’t color blind I could have flown combat!
@GlobalPhenomena
@GlobalPhenomena 3 жыл бұрын
very good my friend
@michelfeinstein
@michelfeinstein 3 жыл бұрын
When you go to train in SIM, do you put fake missiles and blank bullets to simulate weight as well?
@theoth.1704
@theoth.1704 3 жыл бұрын
No, you carry real ones.
@michelfeinstein
@michelfeinstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@theoth.1704 That sounds risky
@theoth.1704
@theoth.1704 3 жыл бұрын
@@michelfeinstein SIM Master arm mode does not allow weapons to be released while keeping the actual A-A symbology on your HUD. It's impossible to release weapons in SIM so it's not risky at all.
@michelfeinstein
@michelfeinstein 3 жыл бұрын
@@theoth.1704 I know, but I mean the risk of human error, someone activating them by mistake... Airplane accidents often happen because of human error
@theoth.1704
@theoth.1704 3 жыл бұрын
@@michelfeinstein It is a three way lever switch that is literally impossible to hit by accident Up pos- Master Arm Middle pos- OFF (you always start with that) Down pos- Simulate Pretty hard to f this up. Plus you can see that you are in SIM mod on your HUD Plus it is checked over the comms before the training begins.
@ekka7441
@ekka7441 3 жыл бұрын
Is "two long two short" possibly referencing armament as in , two short range(AIM-9) two long range (AIM-120)
@cuneytbaytar5805
@cuneytbaytar5805 3 жыл бұрын
Yea
@ege35sen
@ege35sen 3 жыл бұрын
@JuanJulio Jamirez Turk here. Can confirm.
@nightofthunder5509
@nightofthunder5509 3 жыл бұрын
that lock on noise sounds like a shaver
@dominicevanina1351
@dominicevanina1351 3 жыл бұрын
Night of thunder the fireball in your cockpit when the AIM-9 detonates will shave your hair off for sure ;)
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
it's on sim, it's because of good way of training the pilots. I heard about my uncle while he was a pilot in turkish airforce. They were mention about every dogfight we had with hellenic air force, we were able to practice as our skills and they did in same way too.. I hope it'll not get into battle and both sides will use their diplomacy to eager peace in region..
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
@Θάνος ΑλεDo you think so? You're provoking like 50 years.. And telling me provoking? You weaponized those non-military islands and talking about invading. The water perimeter only made by main lands not from islands. Do not create elements from your arse. If you want, conversation... Demilitarize islands and stop provoking borders.
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
Your politics is like arrogant kid... Always demanding, nothing more than that.. We didn't invade syria, we make a barricade for pyd to stop terrorist attack in domestic. And Libya, we were against to coup not to support anti-democratic movements inside the country. You're talking about invading, let's check about 12 islands issues, how did you invade there... In mid 1950's... Also about dictatorship; We might have dictator but your country full of pussies.
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
@Θάνος Αλε These are island countries , you're mention about 5 miles landsquare islands or less.. If you talk about all those islands, those are not mainlands :) you dumb fuck, read about geneva sea LAW.
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
@Θάνος Αλε Propaganda ? That's why you expelled Dr. Hristos Rozakis from Athens University.
@echolon3
@echolon3 3 жыл бұрын
​@Θάνος Αλε IF your country convert their limits from 6 miles to 12 miles. It's an act of war... If your country change it, your country will suffer the consequences.. Those island's airspace inside of Turkish Airspace, if it's increased to 12 mile.
@suffiansufi9699
@suffiansufi9699 3 жыл бұрын
they are all beautiful creations
@arjunyelamanchili3517
@arjunyelamanchili3517 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the sound at 13:34?
@bill584
@bill584 3 жыл бұрын
8:18 could it be a different RWR tone?
@marcobrachtomo
@marcobrachtomo 3 жыл бұрын
Would you please review “Mover Ruins Movie” a Chinese Top Gun called : “Sky Fighter”..🙏🏻
@mytester6208
@mytester6208 3 жыл бұрын
@C.W. Lemoine 3.12 I can shoot down the one behind... (take it down in local slang smack it down) it was very heated message, and they were ready to shoot them down if they didnt divert/and return to where they come from... most conversation was about them trailing them until they were sure both main/leader and sidekick change their heading?
@Simulator96
@Simulator96 2 жыл бұрын
I think 2 long 2 short might reference they have 2 aim 9 and 2 aim 120's onboard so 2 long range missiles and 2 short range with droptanks?
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