Hopefully I explained this well enough. I tried to be as straightforward and to the point as possible!! Love you peeps

After seeing your name, I'll never look at a bong the same way again.

Can you make a video on how to plug in electronic devices in a wall outlet for power

I realize I’m 4 years late, but this is the most informative and straightforward video I have found on the subject. Trying to connect a new MSI gaming router to ISP gateway and really wish I had watched this last week!

This is great! I told my ISP that I had my own modem and router. They tried to tell me that I couldn’t do that which is definitely not true in most cases.

I really love your video I’m in the IT field and this is a great example of QoS in your network structure for daily users. Keep up the great work.

I like these visuals, Mr. Glasscock :D

I know this is a 4 year old video now but it has just solved a crazy double nat and lack of qos functionality issue ive been having in my home network. My new isp gateway suffers from terrible buffer bloat and has no modem only or bridge mode. Plus it uses carrier grade nat. I have an asus router running openwrt firmware and have had a nightmare trying to bridge them without either double nat or a los of qos. Now have a managed switch running pfsense qos and prioritizing traffic and have reverted the asus back to og firmware and running in ap mode and it seems to ve working well! Both my wife and i thank you john!

This is the most well explained video on this topic I've seen in a language that doesn't have too much "tech" in it. Well done, my dude!

is there a way you can just come to my house and setup all this. my brain hurts 😢

Glasscock? God damn my ears do not deceive me... hahaha love it

I've been trying to find a solution for so long. I've opened port forwarded, amongst so many other options but this solutions helps the best and is explained the nicest.

Thank you so much John!!! Really helpful. Have a great day!

damn def. appreciate the info sir thank you

Thanks so much man you saved me so much time you just got a new sub!! I’ve been buying new routers and wondering why they never worked till you showed me why lol

Jhon you deserve over 100 million subs your voice is chill your facts are facts and you have the most helpful videos eve

If you want to use a third party router then put isp modem im bridge mode. Router then handles all ip addressing etc

There's a bit of misinformation here unfortunately and quite a bit to address, but the major points being: QoS *only* makes a difference if you're running into some form of contention and want to prioritize traffic. It's also not recommended on most consumer grade equipment and usually does more harm than good. QoS will *NOT* make traffic any less latent under normal conditions. I would advise heavily against its use for most consumers. The double NAT thing isn't a problem in the scenario you provided. Double NAT is an issue when both DHCP servers are on the same network. In the diagram, the ISP provided equipment is only leasing a single address to the consumer router. It's better to put the ISP device into bridge mode, but stating that this scenario will cause problems isn't true unless you're attempting to port forward. The "gateway" is really a 3-in-1, Router/Switch/AP. Usually poor versions of each. The idea of having a "high performance" access point with a "low performance" access point is nonsense. I would never in a million years spend that much money on lackluster Netgear equipment. If you're serious about your network but don't want to spend a fortune look into something like Ubiquiti.

Appreciate this video big bro! 🔥

Very helpful!!! Thank you 🙏🏽

These IPS modems (i.e Connect Box) have "Bridge Mode" which basically disables all their functionalities and routes everything to Your router.

This made me feel like I was in a high school lecture again

I didn't get any switch, but i followed your instructions and disabled dhcp on my access points. Nice improvement on response time.

Wow, this is what i needed to understand the thing of the switch. Thank you a lot and im understanding more about my internet setup. Thank you alot and it was very good eplained. Keep the good work!

I just want to mention real quick on the part with the gateway to proper 3rd party router, if you cannot get your provider to provide you with a modem, most gateways do have a feature called "bridge mode" this feature will essentially turn your gateway into a modem and then you have no problems when connecting your 3rd party router to it.

If you have a gateway, have your ISP activate bridge mode for that device. Bridge mode will disable all routing, Nat, and DHCP.

As always bro, thx for the video.👍👍👍👍

Thanks for all the information I understood it all. I'll need this for my gaming network setup

A guy from geeksquad tried to tell me that I needed a router for my games because most of their modems didn't have phone Ethernet and cable altogether.

Hey, John, I have a question for you. I just got 1GB fiber put into my apartment from AT&T. Now I am only getting 300 DL and 300 UL. I talked to the Tech and he said I could get more if I just add a router to my gateway. My question to you is it worth me buying a gaming router? Will I get more speed if I do that? It comes into my apartment as fiber then come out in a CAT 5 connection. he said also that as soon as I attach it that is disables the DCHP and give all handling to the new router? Thanks for the videos and I hope you can answer this for me.

thanks man, i was looking to see if i would still need a modem if i was switching over to a 3rd party router and found my answer, (though i believe that answer can still differ with some ISPs if they have those boxes on the side of the house) also it was a good refresher and extended lesson on SOHO networking.

Thank you so much for the explanation.

So cable modem, to the switch, then to my nighthawk router. Then from the nighthawk to the ps4 or the switch to the ps4 im so confused

misinformation. in other words just buy a managed switch. you dont turn nothing into a gaming router

Also, ensure there is no crosstalk noise from neighborhood routers broadcasting near the same frequency. 2.4GHz band has 11 channels; however, only 4 channels can be broadcast in close proximity due to overlapping boundaries. 5GHz doesn't suffer too much in overlap but it does have line-of-sight limits as well as interference from microwaves and incoming cell calls to nearby mobile devices.

Hey john, i have a normal gateway at home and i ordered the netgear s8000 switch for the QOS function. I have already prioritized all my devices on my router, should i delete all off the prioritized settings if i also want to preoritize on the netgear switch? Or is it okay if i prioritize on the router and the switch?

Ps5 took this a bit too serious

Bro I’m getting AT&T tomorrow I’m getting a Gigabit up and down. So the only thing I need is a “SWITCH.” Also, do they have a gigabit “switch” because I want the best of the best.

I have a cable modem and connected it to a router to make it useful for more than one device. My modem is an Arris from the ISP. The connection as sold to me is 100 megabit but I often get more. That is only because I got rid of the old router which had no gigabit Ethernet and got one that does have it. I was not expecting gigabit speeds and was not really sure if I would see more than 100 megabit. To my pleasant surprise the better router allowed an extra 70 megabits to come through. Not all people will have the luck I had. I am using a TP-Link C7 router and they are usually good. Some people who reviewed them said they had problems with them but it is very difficult to know what they did to theirs, I had no problems at all!! I already had that extra boost in speed before the epidemic so that wasn't just my ISP being generous and making quarantining easier for me and other people. In a way I am glad for that extra bit of speed because they (like all the others) slowly raise your bill higher. It seems to me that the slowly rising price is more for TV service really.

Hi John, once again, many thanks for the video. Do you mind sharing your thoughts on the below? My housemates have installed ORBI RBK50 system at home (i.e. router + satellite) and since ethernet is out of question unfortunately, I was thinking about utilizing your scenario 2 set up, i.e. getting a switch + router & satellite for my own high-priority network. Do you know if using a switch such as the S8000 that u recommended will override the in-built auto QOS that the router has? Or is that the point of AP mode:)?

Hi bro, i hv xr500 and my gateway fiber model , so i put the xr500 Mac address into the dmz of the fiber gateway and my ps4 is connected into the xr500 and i put my ps4 ip in dmz on the xr500, open nat now and games is fine , is my setup fine ? The wireless devices is connected to the xr500 and the wifi is not enable in the gateway

*is there a way i can get lower ping if i have 1000 up 1000 down, but i live really far away from the host, thats the problem

Thanks love the info.. Great Job 👍👍👍

How about bridge mode it turns a gateway into a modem basically and you can also shut of firewall at least for me with Comcast which I have done and then use everything from my XR500 router.

can you make a video on how to disable dchp on your other router

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My setup is like yours Work like dream Keep up the good work

I have an Actiontek Modem. I have Security and my TV boxes running through this. Does this affect those from working if left connected to the Actiontek?

u make it more complicated. just use the router as ap mode

How I do this in my neighbor's router?

Thanks for the great videos man! This might have been answered but I couldn't find it in all the comments. I have the Comcast Gateway (Cisco DPC3941T) and when I set it to Bridged Mode my Asus (RT-AC1900P) doesn't allow access to the internet. I also have the S8000 switch as well but not matter how I connect the Asus router to the gateway I lose internet access. Is there a step I'm missing? Do I need to turn off DHCP in the router or set the range to be different in the router?

Thanks this is a very informative video. Is there any other switches you could recommend? Or maybe a popular switch that has problems with gaming QoS?

Servers are trash on Bo4. Nothing will fix the connection

I am subscribed, and I hit all notifications bell. Thank you again.

Thanks! Definitely a sub

So if I do the first option you explained (wired) to my PS4 with the s8000, since the WiFi is off on the gateway, will i still be able to connect my laptop, phone etc via WiFi ?

Question, I've got a decent network up and running. Every device shows me high speeds except for the ps4, it's the only one that just won't give me high speeds. Any idea as to why the hell only the ps4 stays low in speed?

How would a simple setup with precaution compare, like connecting high priority device(s) with ethernet and use it when other devices don't need internet. For latency, I believe there is a video from LinusTechTips that suggests opting for a faster dns server. Don't remember if it was supposed to improve latency for games, but should be much easier to implement.

So John I've decided to switch providers from xfinity to att any suggestions on being able to use my netduma with the gateway? Any possible good ways or do u recommend me buying the Switch?

Liked it just for the "but a bore" i mean "But a more" ROFL!! made me laugh so hard!

my nighthawk r8000 has qos on it, would you still recommend using a switch as well

I would recommend using ubiquiti wireless access points, as they are dedicated to provide the wireless network. Other than that, your setup works.

If I bought a good enough gaming router would I be able to bypass using the switch? Or do I need the switch anyways

If you want to use your own hardware, see if your gateway has some form of modem mode, mine does, it shuts down all wifi and ethernet functionality and just acts as a modem and this means that you don't need a switch, most modern wifi/ethernet routers have some form of ethernet and wifi based QoS or something that will allow you to set priority, netgear actually has an amazing GUI for wifi based priority but it does carry a premium.

Came back to this vid thanks

I purchased the switch thinking I could plug my Xbox straight into the switch without having to use the router first, my internet speed is only 75down and 8up is this useless for me?

I have at&t fixed wireless which has the same setup as your fiber. I just live outside the normal internet gateway area. So since I live about 2 miles away from a cellular tower I actually have decent internet at up to 100 Mbps. I haven't had much issue with online gaming since I got it

My isp modem is beast with changing the advanced settings and having repeaters in our room upstairs

Thanks John 🤙🏼

Hi John. Very nice video, thanks. I hope you will help me clarify some things: 1. What if I have an ISP router I can't be witout because it runs my TV via IP, so I could just set one of the ports in the ISP router to bridge mode, and then connect the gaming router to that port? I believe that is actually what you suggest besides the fact that I'm keeping my router insted of getting af modem? 2. I have to connect my PS5 via wifi, and the router is almost right above the PS5 so the signal should be fine. Would you suggest a good gaming router and then connect mys PS5 via Wifi 6 directly to the router and set up QoS, or would it be better to place a access point near the PS5 and connect the PS5 with cable to the AP? I play FPS games and I seeking to get the lowest possible latency of couse :) Thanks in advance! Brian

Heya John - I love the vids... in my setup which is an Arris gateway (modem/router) and a Netgear xr500, I want to use my router and not the gateway because the Arris Firewall options are limited. It only allows so many entries in Port forwarding and is unable to do between ranges. In your video, you said not to use the gateway and my router because it will double NAT. But can't you simply put your Arris gateway in Bridge mode and have the router do everything? Do you have a video using this setup and why would this be a bad way to go if this is simply making your gateway into a modem.

Love this channel

Never had an issue with gaming until I switched to At&t their modem UI seems outdated and not user friendly. Been fighting this double NAT for a year now. Thank you for this information.

What I should do? I had Frontier Fios (Verizon fios) in Florida. But Im doing the Big NO you are saying on this video. I connect my nighthawk XR500 to my gateway(modem from my internet provider). What cheaper option I have?

Can i disable the bridge option in my arris so its only a moden and run a gaming router? Would that be the same thing as running a switch into a router?

I have 2 ethernet connection behind my xfinity xb6 router/modem what if I use one for xr700 and use the other for a switch and connect my pc, ps4, xbox on the switch and keep the xr700 on wifi will that work or should I just use my own modem instead of Xfinity's modem/router. What are your suggestions please comment

I have Verizon FiOS (which I believe you need to use the gateway). But because I have internet only, I did a DHCP release and I bypassed the gateway and went straight to a Netgear Nighthawk XR500. (Best router I’ve ever owned). This is running as my standalone modem/router. Do you suggest this is a better setup than running through the gateway on AP mode? Or do you believe I should get a gateway again. My internet speeds are 940/860 respectively.

@Glasscock.. question for yah.. I have att fiber as well. And use the same pace 5268ac gateway. First thing I did was bridge my Netgear R8000. I had the 1000mbps plan as well. But what I was always noticing was my download speeds were always cut in half but my upload was doubled. I would reset everything and I’d get the correct speeds. Then a little while later it would slow down again. So my question is... Did you experience these same issues when you bridged your router? And now that your using this switch it’s balanced itself out.

Thanks! Your the difference between poor connectivity and slaying in-game - on my wonky triple router + modem, family setup! For me this was the vid ^^

John, Recently, I tried to set my system up as you have but I seem to be running into a fee kinds with my Xbox One S. I use a fiber provider in Des Moines Iowa called CenturyLink. CenturyLink is a parent company associated with AT&T. CenturyLink uses a modem/router combo gateway (either Actiontec or netgear if you are extremely lucky) i have 1G speeds with fiber but usually only get on average 300 down and around 700 up. The gateway I have to use per the ISP is an Actiontec c3000a. I have logged into it and set my port forwarding and tried to change my DNS to Either a Cloudflare or OpenDNS server as that is what is recommend by Benchmark. When i plug my ethernet into my PC i get a ping of 2ms with a download of usually 200mbps and an upload of 700 to 790mbps. When i do the same test on my xbox one s i get a ping between 25ms and 52ms and a download of 80-150mbps and an upload no higher than 60mpbs with 0 to 1% packet loss. I also change the DNS of my xbox from automatic to manual and enter the DNS of the respective Cloudflare or openDNS servers to match what my gateway is using. This has little to no effect even when clearing the xbox mac address between changes (which i have read can sometimes help) Ultimately, i am trying to reduce ping in multiplayer for games such as Battlefield 5 and Cod but, i seem to have issues replicating the low ping on my computer to my xbox. From my gateway c3000A i have ports forwarded for battlefield, apex, and ghost recon games for better connectivity. I have the netgear S8000 switch with the gaming profile enabled and hardwired into my xbox. I then have my NIGHTHAWK 3200ACS in AP mode to handle all of my wifi concerns which is what I saw you do in another video. No matter what I do, I cannot seem to lower my ping or get better speeds on the xbox and I have a suspicion that even though I am changing the DNS on my gateway, my ISP isn't really allowing the change. Can you offer any suggestions on what to do from here? I dont understand how one on Microsoft based system (PC) i get one result and on another, it is completely different.

hi good review can you help me on my setup i do have a lot of question. thank you. good job.

Some gateways allow modem mode usually it’s hidden away in setup or administrative settings

so what is if i use a gaming router like asus rog ac5300 with my gateway from isp ,, and disable dhcp in one of the devices ( the gateway or the router ) ?

I have my Arris surfboard cable modem SB614, with my nighthawk R6700v2 router. Should I keep it like that or is it better to have the switch connected to my modem then use my router in AP mode? My download is 75 and upload is 8? Please help?

Do you turn the flow control on or off? I have the s8000 just confused a bit to turn it on or off for my xbox

I have a gateway if i get a managed switch will it improve my performance on my PS4 pro ?

I’m sorry but had to rewind as you said glasscock 😂👌🏼

My gateway once in awhile crashes like it doesn't work at all Then it comes back on buy getting the managed switch will fix this problem?

Could I use my nighthawk router as a managed switch with qos features?

never laughed so hard at an intro before

I have a Asus GT-AX11000 and a Netgear Nighthawk CM1200, i pay 1000Mbps but only getting Wifi 275 down and 41.1 up, Hardwire 575 down and 41.5 up, is there any functionality i need to change on the gaming router?

Yooo your video answered my questions and I was planning on doing what you said not to do lol but I was looking into getting the netgear AX8 but mentioned a different WiFi device should I go with yours instead? Also I have ATT too but would I need a good netgear modem to support the router and have the WiFi shut off features cause I just need to know the best setup for online gaming Nvm just read your set up on the description

So you don’t need a switch if you have extra space on your modem?

Nice video....👍 I have the same issue with my ISP

@ John as for the router I am using NETGEAR nighthawk xr700 7.2gb ad7200

but if I put a Netgear modem router and put it in modem only mode and then attached a gaming router it works fine all right? because I can not put a modem with cable instead of the modem provided by the ISP. What do you say about a d6220? It could go well?

I also have a gateway through AT&T fiber. I just ordered a asus axe-16000 to up my gaming performance. So basically I hook the asus up to the gateway then disable WiFi on the gateway?

If I play games on my pc would I set it to high priority or use a lab cable and do the bridged mode thing

What about Wi-Fi mesh extenders with ap mode

Your videos are very informative. I have a doubt though,i use a smart switch which has dhcp on(tplink-tl sg107-e) by default..should i leave it on. Or should i turn it off