One thing is that there is much speculation that suns and vazen paid one of the last place teams to land on Alex and worthy to grief them day 2. This might be a reason why they were disqualified. Regardless, vazen has banned before and it is an interesting situation. Glad the undisputed best team on OCE will be able to go to globals again though

So wait if Nayte and Lane was banned before day 2 started, Savage and Mongraal could've gotten a better placement than 40th BRUH

If I had to guess, they were sniping forecast and epic could clearly see teams rotating to zones the had no knowledge of every game.

Would looking at streams for forecast tower zone reveals be considered stream sniping?

Savage basically accused Nayte or Lane of using macros. He was first to land on the roof and open a chest, but the other guy standing behind him got everything from the chest. That's when Savage said that one of those guys is using a macro. Those can be used to help pick up items or guns before your opponent, I guess.

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I think it’s like a placeholder as it is the only normal explanation for me how everyone got banned for the same issue

Honestly my theory is that they have some kind of auto-detection running to discern players movements in relation to future storm circle locations with forecast towers. For example, if a team moves across map in a statistically improbable way where it seems they have knowledge of future zones, there is no way to do that without cheating in some way. Now epic might not be able to prove these statistical improbabilities with 100% evidence of cheating so they give them the lowest warning possible - a warning for stream sniping (a way to achieve this future zone knowledge).

Weird theory, maybe they have been confirmed cheaters and this is a way of taking their prize money without alerting the cheat developers that said cheats have been detected

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I think MrSavage's main complaint was that Layn and Nayte appeared to be using macro's to win the fight for the content of the off-spawn chest. Maybe this was verified?

I think epic is cracking down on vma cheats but they for some reason can't say for sure yet if they are actually using dma or have just gotten a wired tweak or something but still those player got flagged... I think the type of players banned just makes sense in that regard; on eu layzen and his duo are largely unknown and defenetly use macros, I don't think prism cheats but caspernovice might very well. Haven't looked at the other teams who got disqualified but it just seems like they all are teams who *might* be cheating.

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there is a clip of savage watching a replay of him and one of the kids fight for the chest in grands and savage had auto pickup on and scroll wheel pickup and was standing on the loot and the other guy got it so savage thinks he had a macro. so savage could have been the one to get him banned idk just an idea

My theory about the team contesting Mongraal and MrSavage is that they got mass reported by their viewers

MrSavage used Scroll Wheel Pickup, E-Spam to Pickup and had Autopickup turned on(In Settings), but he still didnt get the Loot from a Chest multiple Times on Spawm, wouldnt be Streamsniping, but thats what i saw in the Savage Spawnfights.

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It’s so good that Alex and worthy one I was rooting for them

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I just wish they were more open about why they were doing this. It's probably got to do with Blast taking over comp so now they're trying to be more proactive in removing cheaters. But Epic has always been very silent about competitive so I wouldn't be surprised if they're maybe waiting for Epic to let them say something about what happened maybe?

For layn and nayte, I was in Mongraals stream during the last game, when both of the teams were still alive (he changed drop spot for last game) he was in mongraals chat and actively chatting so it might be that

Remember when Andilex got banned for something he did the season before? It was some time during last chapter because he was apparently teaming in a solo cash cup even though he streamed it. Anyway it was overturned

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I was thinking that the antique could detect if you're on a twitch stream then I realised that would literally be illegal they would be checking what your browser is doing and they would have to at least be in the terms of service

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My theory is that the team contesting savage and mongraal had macros setup. Maybe anti-cheat is updated to detect macros from different softwares running on your device. Why I ended up with this conclusion is because whenever savage tried to 50-50 the chest ( first 4 games ) of grands. Not a single time he ended up with the gun or any loot. Savage and mongraal ended up winning the spawn after they gave up on 50-50 the chest on top of their landing. How can he lose 4 times back to back on a single chest? Ik ping matters but savage does have good ping on EU. This is my best guess

Mongraal and Mr Savage may talk about landing positions, different ways to play off spawn, etc... that could be listened to by the stream snipers, and the three minute delay wouldn't really matter if they're in the lobby waiting for next game, etc. For example, if Mr Savage and Mongraal died off spawn, they could then say like "Oh I'm going to land on roof next time..." which would be in 20 minutes when the next game starts.

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what about macros for nayte? analised game data to find he pressed pickup too "robtically"

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If i'm mistaken i believe Mongraal & MrSavage had a 1min delay on the first day and changed it the second day.

I like how most of the teams disqualified weren't even the ones topping the leaderboard. Cheating and still losing, then getting disqualified 💀

The anticheat couldn't detect if you have a twitch stream open, even if it could. Alot of people watch twitch stream on their second monitor while freebuilding/just chilling and playing.

how did savage get found a ritzy while he was rebooting so far into the storm on like game 4 or 5 when they got 43rd i think

My theory is macros- I remember that savage was having difficulty getting a gun on a 50 50 with 3 pickup binds. Could be wrong though, I’m not epic games

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Day1 savage and mon didn't have delayon so it was prabably then.

I think that nate and lane were banned for supposedly macroing chests, ifk if that's bannable or if its true but half of mr savages chest 50/50s ended in one of them just swallowing the chest

how much is the delay for official one? it was like 1 min delayed from clix and I think clix was not delayed. mrsavage used 3 min delay?!

yo so i was actually doing some research of my own into this issue especially the OCE teams. I had a short chat with Crusades and he said he didn't stream snipe in grands, maybe he was cheating in qualifiers? they are t2 team so not exactly sure if they were cheating in grands like maybe with very weak aimbot because they did get 8th which is their best placement by far. Suns and Vazen could have been cheating as well as they got 120 more points than alex worthy and even repulse jace only won by 12 points.

I have a crazy theory: one of the spectators was giving out information to players. Epic won't admit it, neither the players. Idk if that's too unlikely, but it would make sense.

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whats going on is epic realized its more popular to ban cheaters than let them stay in comp xD

in middle east they were teaming with another team

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Nayte and Lane were apparently using pickup macros. They won every 50/50 for the chest and allways got everything from the chest ( ammo, gun and mats) allso mrsavage was very sus about them using macros so yeah.

the team that was contesting mongrall and savege could be stream snipering uther after the fight of spown.

Mongraal and savage had only a few seconds delay

In my opinion epic is cooking up something rn since theyve confirmed it was intended got all the offenders shivering in confusion.

The brazilian teams got a 14 days ban for the surge trading

It's amazing how many people cheat in this game. Not even just the pros, everyday regular people and ranked grinders are using cheats. It's insane. As an older player it's disheartening and lame. How can anyone feel good about improving or getting better or succeeding while cheating. Sad.

they might be removing them and then after gonna ban them.

I’m glad that Alex and Worthy won

the team that landed on mrsvage and mongraal used pickup macros, i dont know if that is bannable but mrsavage usen scrollwheel and his other pickup bind, spammed and he got nothing from the chest.

On day 1 of grands savage had accidentally 0 delay on stream, so the streamsnipe ban could be ledgit

wasnt crusade stream sniping oatly at mr savbage spot

Savage and mongraal streamed fncs with 1min delaiy. ..

Who won Oceania fncs grands

I think Oatly also said that suns knowingly played with cheaters in the past so he is very sus

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you haven't speak about "storm surge" a lot of team get removed because they working together to get surge

yea suns has had many close calls before like being in a call with cheater saying dont go this drop me and my duo are going to hack there and they go exsposed for cheating suns wall hacked someone threw a wal so im happy they got banned congrats to alex worthy

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There probably under investigation

Definitely Fortnite trying to make their pros feel more comfortable with streaming big tournaments especially after the all time high viewing records why had last weekend, it’s prob jus them trying to make a statement about how the feel about stream sniping

What’s so confusing about this. Even with a 3 minute delay, you are still stream sniping even if it doesn’t give an advantage. It’s pretty simple imo

Hardware detection? They would keep that to themselves and use stream sniping instead of.

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That seems like an outrageous amount of cheaters

Theres about to be a huge DMA Bust soon half of Fortnite bout to be shocked at so many cheaters a lot of pros dont snitch on eachother... but someone bout to be exposed and like roaches they all gonna be exposed. Fortnite is about to figure out a way to upload extra memory to fry DMAS

So if you are an average Joe and stream snipe you are banned instantly but if you're a pro and do it you only get a warning?

nate and layn had macros. they were getting all the guns on chest and savage and mongrall both had scroll wheel and got nothing. i think they had macros

im so happy for alex abd worthy main team i wanted at grands but i feel so bad for savage and mongraal coz they couldve been unconned ffs

All these "pro" players either stream snipe or soft aim cheat. So the real pros get grieved. They need to have an employee on every pro players stream in big money tournaments to insure of no cheats sus gameplay and stream sniping. Also before they start the employee should see every pc players task manager to make sure there no cheats running . Not sure how they would check console if thats even needed.

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Lane and nayte might have been streamsniping others, likely they weren’t doing it to savagraal

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not saying who was removed in middle east is crazy

I think this is anti cheat picking up hacking signs rather than identifying the actual hack, & that they have a 99.99% faith in their detection that they're happy to remove them from the leaderboards & issue warnings, but not certain enough to provide hard bans in case of false positives as has happened in the past. You'll probably find a lot of these players 'promoted' to perma bans once Epic finds that last 0.01% certainty.

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mobgraal and savage should be compensated

why are you sensoring the names on the top-left part of the screen when they clearly appear on the other side? you just made your job harder for no reason my boy

believing a cheater saying another cheater isnt cheating is some god awful proof