Im glad you documented this so we dont have to take the chance on blowing up our gear! Thanks for the experiment!
@Calthecool4 жыл бұрын
It’s a brushless motor, of course a brush makes it not work.
@cherry.71993 жыл бұрын
Hahaha nice mann
@GENESUTUBE692 жыл бұрын
you can run multi brush motors on one esc
@premierymasyt70834 жыл бұрын
Hi Joy I like video and English because I speake english and you make a video excelent. Joy you are the BEST KZfaq.
@Traderhood2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for the video. Quite informative. From what you demonstrated, my conclusion is that using two same motors, with double sized controller should work fine. But I would use motors that use hall sensors and plugged one of them into the controller.
@mrquackerz9346 Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Very helpful. Trying to make vtol plane with 2 edfs and now I understand how to have the same amount of current flowing through each one. Thanks again.
@tk-maker2 жыл бұрын
Nice, this explained alot. I'm working on 4x4 drive rover wheel, something like a mars rover. Maybe I will go for 1 ESC to 4 motors. this saves a lot of esc
@techwithkeshana61432 жыл бұрын
I finally found this video, Thanks for this video
@Athiril4 жыл бұрын
How about 2 ESCs connected to 1 motor to split the current load between the ESCs
@bloho_design3 жыл бұрын
Dc maybe, brushless won’t without some way to sync them
@SamHocking4 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you lock the shafts of the two motors together and then run from one ESC in parallel? If the kv is the same and you can somehow align the motors before locking together, would this allow both to run efficiently?
@ValleyRC4 жыл бұрын
That seems to work on RC cars like the E-maxx where you sync both motors before meshing them with the spur gear. I've seen it done with 1 or 2 ESCs. I also have a Nikko rc car that has entirely separate motors and transmissions at the front and back and I've used 1 ESC and 2 brushless motors and it to work fine. Maybe a little stuttery off the line sometimes, especially a low speed start but once it was up and running it went like a dream to be honest.
@jasmineshiny17925 жыл бұрын
Awesome work dude searching for this video I want this channel to become famous like others Keep it up👍👍👍👍👍👍
@Joyplanes5 жыл бұрын
Thank you man!
@whitneydesignlabs87382 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test. This confirms my concern and will steer my design another direction.
@chuckmaddison29244 жыл бұрын
I watched earlier and found interesting, especially how one affects the other. I had an idea, isolate the motors from each other by running the one motor directly from the controller and then use the 3 phases to control the gates of 6 MOSFET,s to drive the second motor. Just a thought that came to me watching Master Chef ( don't ask) have not tried but wondering about an easy way to make my skateboard 4wd.
@Joyplanes4 жыл бұрын
That's actually a good idea.
@chuckmaddison29244 жыл бұрын
@@Joyplanes HI, take a look at this. electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/272338/running-bldc-motor-without-hall-effect-sensor-or-back-emf With a skateboard starting is not an issue but can be a benefit due to inertia of your body if you open up throttle a bit much from stationary.
@neilchance9339 Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to find out about this, I'm building a gokart using Segway wheels but only want to use the circuitry from 1 Segway, any info would be greatly appreciated
@Orochi338LM5 жыл бұрын
this application wanted to listen. very complete totally well specified. my review of your video is: 5⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@Joyplanes5 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@eliasshedd4 жыл бұрын
Ok. In spite of all my complaining. I did learn from you there is one dead pole set and two active poles. Thank you.
@CShand3 жыл бұрын
Well done on the video however I would like to add something. If the two motors are identical and ESC of correct rating you should not have desync issues. The two motors should phase lock (3 phase generation principle) a scope would confirm this/bl heli frames. Not advisable though.
@allscalerc8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I found this very helpful.
@shaulbalas6231 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful experiment 👍
@rachit_254 жыл бұрын
What if we use Universal Esc ( means an esc that can connect 4 motors ) . Will it work ?
@justingort13 жыл бұрын
@Joyplanes RC I like how you showed in the diagram at 2:35 that the signals might be out of phase. And in theory that should result in a failure, in reality it showed that is seemed just fine. this is because the ESC will try to sync then unintentionally by slowing down one motor until they are the same. This has the effect that it creates an oscillation in these signals equal to the switching frequency that will work against both motors. and this it the observed reduced efficiency as its wasting power trying to correct the errors. And although it is possible to run motors this way it is still not recommended as in the long term it will damage the ESC and/or the motor(s)
@vchan15012 жыл бұрын
One esc can used to drive two identical motors but the wires have to be very short. It works but definitely not recommended. Any differences in motors' specification, a new and an older motor, impedance due to longer or bad cables, can cause one of the motors stop or tickle due to desync.
@kunalwagh21299 ай бұрын
Very informative.....but can you tell me what to do if i want to control two motors.......actually i am working on a rc boat for which i need to control two propellers for turning and speed enhancement.
@jinflip4 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this. Thank you
@rwehuman2 жыл бұрын
very cool, thanks for taking the time to make this video.
@akshayverma1234 жыл бұрын
hi, can you please help me to understand the quadcopter circuit design. should I connect the motors and other equipments in parallel or in series ?
@eliasshedd4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video and your experiment.
@rcfun18765 жыл бұрын
I liked the video (not many like this on the net) and can even tell that even when using the same motor the max RPM will never be achieved, it is better to have Two ESC's and 2 motors
@MCsCreations5 жыл бұрын
Really nice! 😊
@user-rp4kp1ou3b Жыл бұрын
Got that idea,next time i'll just connect two esc with 1 motor
@SuperZeze895 жыл бұрын
good job on it!!
@indiacg9994 жыл бұрын
Hi bro I'm from Indian love yor video 👍
@LukeMaximoBell14 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the test. I've got an 80A ESC that I want to use to power to max 30A motors of the same kind and same payload. This is for a ball launcher so I don't think it will really matter to use the one ESC. Let's see what happens! haha
@Divyesh_Sinha Жыл бұрын
Hey What's the result?
@LukeMaximoBell1 Жыл бұрын
@@Divyesh_Sinha 1 ESC didn’t work properly. Needed to use 2 separate ESCs.
@zaksuch86662 жыл бұрын
So it can and will work just fine with no issue if your esc is double the rating? I’m making an edf car with one large brushless esc and 2 small brushless UMX motors
@santhoshA3502 жыл бұрын
I have two 2200kv brushless motor and 14.8v lipo battery How to run one esc and how much amp esc is better those motors
@lysomnang73094 жыл бұрын
when i conected two brushless motors why it work only one ? help me please🙏🙏
@Joyplanes4 жыл бұрын
One of them might be having a bit more resistance or it's a bit out of phase per say. As you saw it is not that reliable.
@JohnMitchellunidentified Жыл бұрын
I'm just spit balling new to all this but wouldn't a y connection point help with some issues
@troymiller80792 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me the name of the device he is using to control the speed?
@tahayt61424 жыл бұрын
I want to know how to connect a 3 wire ESC to a 2 wire motor
@Enderkruemel4 жыл бұрын
It dosnt work. I dont know if it works to connect a 6diode rectifire. I think it dosnt work, becourse the back emf is missing and the Esc trys to get more and more speed.
@eliasshedd4 жыл бұрын
A three wire esc is for a brushless motor. Brushless esc's send pulses of current to each set of windings. A 2 wire esc literally just connects the battery to the motor. A 2 wire esc at full throttle is no different than connecting the battery DIRECTLY to the motor. Google how brushless vs. brushed work.
@sssedo15733 жыл бұрын
Two DC motors with one esp32, does it work and how?
@FlyingFun.11 ай бұрын
The thing you say is bad ie if one motor stops so dies the other could be a good thing in a plane for a novice pilot, I saw a guy crash a twin motor model because one motor failed and he could not control the model due to to the other motor puling the plane into a spin. However I absolutely agree it's a bad idea and esc do not cost much anyway so why would you even bother risking running two motors from one esc?
@rj-topmostsolutions46064 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro please make these kind of more videos...🙂 bro tell me one thing if my rc plane have right and down thrust can i use the cw propeller. As i have used but its not flying.. i have to uses only ccw propeller then its flying well.. why?
@Joyplanes4 жыл бұрын
Yes that's actually correct if viewed from the cockpit. CW propeller and a bit of right thrust.
@jos77093 жыл бұрын
Thank you for good video!
@michaelnelson91403 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the three wire battery connection? All my lipo’s are two wire.
@hiltonryllecabeguin91925 жыл бұрын
how about using esc that has x2 rated amps of motor..will it work properly?
@Joyplanes5 жыл бұрын
Still will have some sync issues
@smilingashika22504 жыл бұрын
Can you make 3 brushless motor and one ESC?
@eliasshedd4 жыл бұрын
So yes it absolutely can be done and works fine. Obviously if one motor stops the other will too. Obviously there is no redundancy for loosing a sinlgle esc if there is only one esc.
@dustinplee50672 жыл бұрын
Can I do it can do it the way you're doing but instead of using a stack just plug everything into my receiver and use a y harness cuz I seen somebody use that in another video with the Y harness well the motors and the ESC work with a receiver instead of a stack
@Suprem3GamerDamianWinchester4 жыл бұрын
Can you try 1 servo tester with 4 esc?
@lalalalelelele79615 жыл бұрын
Stupid question: What would happen if the second motor negative was connected before the ESC and the positive after?
@AtradiesInc Жыл бұрын
SO if you have a high amp esc and 6s normally runs 2207 1800kv double the kv at 3600kv for 6s this is a test needing to happen
@polhomarkho52294 жыл бұрын
I wanted to build a y-6 drone back then using 6 motors and 3 esc. I didn't even get the pair of motors spinning like yours lol The motors only kept on shaking but never spinned. So it's really not recommended to run multiple motors with one esc
@rubondomoralez1769 Жыл бұрын
I was going to do something similar with a DJI parts drone , curious if it will work
@mahesapemuda67503 жыл бұрын
That's good! 👍
@pranabkantisahoo31554 жыл бұрын
Please give a video on how to change the rotation of one motor
@hifinsword3 жыл бұрын
You change direction of a brushless motor's spin by swapping out any 2 of the 3 wires. But now you need a reverse prop and you will either need to use a Left-Hand nut to secure the prop to a Left-Hand prop shaft/adapter, or use a Lock Nut or a Cotter pin thru the Right-Hand nut and shaft. Otherwise it will eventually spin the nut off the prop shaft.
@Orochi338LM5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up 😃
@DesertSessions934 жыл бұрын
What about two esc from one output on the controller?
@LukeMaximoBell14 жыл бұрын
That is fine for sure.
@chanakyasinha80465 жыл бұрын
Can we combine two esc to run one motor, that's 30a esc and 80a esc to make 120a esc?
@Joyplanes5 жыл бұрын
No. That wouldn't work. It will create a short circuit and posibly damage the ESCs
@tomvandernoll14554 жыл бұрын
@@Joyplanes but can you do is with 2 30 esc in parralel so you have 60 amps
@rj-topmostsolutions46064 жыл бұрын
Please make a video how to use two esc with two motor for twin rc plane..
@Joyplanes4 жыл бұрын
OK, Will do!
@rj-topmostsolutions46064 жыл бұрын
@@Joyplanes tx
@TheXLab4 жыл бұрын
Then what is the solution??
@JamesManimal5 жыл бұрын
Heeeyyyyyyyyyy I use those motors!
@Joyplanes5 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@denilpt67923 жыл бұрын
If Connecting 2 motors in single shaft???
@Joyplanes3 жыл бұрын
They will have to be pretty well aligned in order to work fine.
@electrotechcr25104 жыл бұрын
Plz add link of diagram Plz sir
@nickvledder2 жыл бұрын
Actually you showed quantum physics in action!
@naazhayat17784 жыл бұрын
Good boos
@creativevishu81225 жыл бұрын
sir can i control 4 motor with 1 ESC
@Joyplanes5 жыл бұрын
Not at all. You'll burn the ESC. And it wouldn't work
@jemlittle17875 жыл бұрын
@@Joyplanes what if you have 4 x 5amp motors and a 30 or more amp esc? All motors would be the same KV and type
@tututpatutut80013 жыл бұрын
thank u im planning to make a twin otter but now i guess ill make single motor rc plane
@colddash55985 жыл бұрын
I thought you were going to build a flying cutting mat.
@Joyplanes5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha yes but the air is been blown upwards
@madisonkulah-vt1lf Жыл бұрын
Hi
@szajba81064 жыл бұрын
Title reminds me of two girls one cup 😂 good material tho, but it's quite obvious that 2 motors will draw 2x more current than one, hence the ESC temperature.
@jordanbwalt4 жыл бұрын
Although the motors will, individually, draw less current because they carry less load each
@szajba81064 жыл бұрын
@@jordanbwalt how come they carry less load?
@jordanbwalt4 жыл бұрын
@@szajba8106 It's the same as doing two batteries in parallel. Two motors in parallel are splitting the load of the weight and inertia between each other. Although once the car is up to speed, they'll start pulling a high current on each individual motor again as they struggle to maintain a high speed, although that top speed should be slightly higher than just the single motor
@neilchance9339 Жыл бұрын
Bro that video made me throw up when I watched it
@deadyanothaikiropool1chait7133 жыл бұрын
Yeah I doubt what happen when I do that.
@DaVeHiLl2004 жыл бұрын
Hi mate. What I'm trying to find out is on a boat setup with twin motors. I want to be able to cut power to one motor for turning without using a servo or rudder. A link to relevant information would be amazing, I can't find anything at all. Thank you 🙂
@mahedyhasan79004 жыл бұрын
Same here. Did you find anything?
@charanso1432 жыл бұрын
use a mixer setup on your transmitter
@Captainziadkhan4 жыл бұрын
nailed it !!
@patrikrydergard78572 жыл бұрын
You said it was two brushless motors, but then you used a brush. I don't get it...
@Lunarpollo56222 жыл бұрын
What if you use 3? lol
@mohammedabrarahmed32993 жыл бұрын
May be brushed motor will work easily
@taattataattataattata3 жыл бұрын
bro it works quit ujr ney saying
@GENESUTUBE692 жыл бұрын
NOW RUN ONE MOTOR WITH TWO ESC,S FOR DOUBLE THE POWER ekoj
@Hi-lb8cq3 жыл бұрын
How about 3 motors?...lol
@eliasshedd4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god this is maddening. YOU WERE WRONG just admit it.