At last someone who knows about suspension but far more important he is an EXCELLENT teacher 👍 Just brilliant
@TwoWheelObsessionАй бұрын
Thanks!
@onetrues3978 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the video I've been searching for in reference to my street setup. Dave Moss is great at what he does, but you have more effectively and thoroughly communicated in one video what I couldn't retain from the bits and pieces I could gather from his numerous clips. I think you have made his videos more understandable and enjoyable foe me. More importantly I feel like I can tackle the job myself with confidence. This is the way.
@TwoWheelObsession Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@josefabela54646 жыл бұрын
This was the best suspension set up video. And I think I watched all of them, I finally understand what each part does and what to do with it
@MadScienceHacksTV5 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool video. Thanks for being transparent about your methodology and making this knowledge available for free.
@dnzrdm6 жыл бұрын
I have watched many videos on this topic in search of a basic understanding of setting up my bike properly. This is BY FAR the best one.
@OusamaE6 жыл бұрын
You do know what you are talking about. Very clear and patient. I'll definitely give it a try ! Thanks man
@eternallearner81856 жыл бұрын
I've been modding bike suspension for a good many years, your explanations are clear simple and very instructive. I'm happy that you help to debunk the myth of "factory settings". I'm happy to recommend this tutorial to anyone starting out on setting suspension, the majority of riders are woefully clueless. Good stuff!
@frankstocker54756 жыл бұрын
If there was an Olympic category for bike settings you would get the Gold Medal. Thank you for the time.
@chincemagnet5 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this video. I thought my MT-09 felt pretty good but wanted to try to improve that nasty brake dive and the bounciness on the rear. I had no idea how bad it was until I set everything correctly. What a difference. It’s soooo much more planted at higher speeds now, it’s great, thanks!
@vozspoz20207 жыл бұрын
Outstanding video. As an owner of a 17 MT09 I am loving these videos!
@TwoWheelObsession7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bobfrankfurt94495 жыл бұрын
@@TwoWheelObsession is the 2019 model the exact same in suspension front and back?
@CharlesYangTravel5 жыл бұрын
Best in Suspension adjustments video for MT-09, look no further. I just bought new MT09 from dealer, on the road back to home, notice the suspension react to road bumps was so bad, like old car that need replace struts. Followed your procedure, did all adjustments, then test drive. Man, it is day and night difference, now drive it feels like drive a new car. Thank you so much!
@RobplusPiper6 жыл бұрын
Thank you (again) for the suspension video!!! That information is priceless! My bike is so much better and safer through curves, stops/braking and especially general riding altogether. I currently weigh about 30 lbs more than you (down from an enormous 348lbs) and still eating healthy small portions and losing weight fast, so I’ll probably be readjusting it again soon. The tremendous difference of before (off the showroom floor) and after, can only be described as purely epic. Maybe one day I will upgrade the suspension, but the stock suspension on the 2018 is very good, I just need that Yamaha Comfort Seat. Talked to my dealer and it’ll be here in 4 days. So happy with this bike. The fun is truly limitless!
@andrewtucker79903 жыл бұрын
I definitely subscribed. He actually explains everything, without me having to pay him to.
@slowride98982 жыл бұрын
Bought a 2022 MT09 and followed this video while setting up my suspension. Let me just say the difference is astounding the bike now settles into corners better the feel and control on the road it is night and day. Thanks for a great video for a newb like me.
@shanewink32585 жыл бұрын
I have the same color FZ-09 and pretty much the same mods with just a couple exceptions (Penske DC rear shock and front forks). This video was the best I have seen in setting the suspension and helped me dial it in for the Fz. Ride strong and ride safe!
@mosesthemouse2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I used your video today to guide me with my 2022 MT-09 and the bike handles like a dream. What a difference. My first time doing suspension. The numbers were different 5.1 front 4.8 rear but used your math and adjusted for the difference. You rock
@billk63365 жыл бұрын
Just out day two on my new FJR , bike is great but I know it needs lots of changes in suspension. Thank you in advance for the wonderful detailed how to, it will be immensely useful.
@stephengraver71814 жыл бұрын
I have just set up the suspension on a newly purchased Honad Cross tourer and it has made a huge difference to the ride. Thanks for the very concise method.
@Nomad-Drifter3 жыл бұрын
That explains why my old bike was like a pogo stick on bumpy bends… I think I’ll take it to someone and just pay them to set it up… great video, I’d have to watch it another couple of times to understand all the different parts correctly and then maybe give it a go. I’m just worried of making it feel worse having never done it before and only being on my second bike. Very informative! Top man Bry. 🇬🇧
@vlevi704 жыл бұрын
I have a Tracer900, and this videó helped me to adjust the suspension to my weight. I am not a fast driver, but with this modification, it makes a huge difference.
@HusseinMarey3 жыл бұрын
This is the most informative video about suspension setup on KZfaq.
@rodsimcox71185 жыл бұрын
Very clear, and a pleasure to watch. Thanks. Just one point -- adjusting front end sag (with rider), you say you were looking for 3.8 inches (70%) left showing on the forks. Doesn't that assume that the bottom of the visible slider is the end of the actual travel? i.e. it assumes that if you measured the whole of the visible slider with nil sag, it would equal the manufacturer's stated wheel travel? Is that assumption right? Maybe, but . . . just a thought. Very nice video, anyhow.
@thecappy4 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to say thanks for the video. Bought a Speed Twin this year and over the winter months I'm installing a fully adjustable suspension front and rear and will be back to this video multiple times for the setup instructions.
@ballzmckgee3167 Жыл бұрын
Found this video, at work rn but imma follow this to a T this weekend and get nice and dialed in, thanks dood..
@seamusblack5876Ай бұрын
Welcome to our Planet
@vicpnut1 Жыл бұрын
Very detailed…I imagine itll take me (anyone new to this ) a lil bit of trial and error till I’m able to feel the differences during set up. Also imagine I’ll have to rewatch a few Times till (& while doin )I’ve done it enough Where it just makes sense step-by-step ….was always afraid to make any of these type of adjustments back in the day, as I was afraid I’d screw things up. Mark another win for KZfaq. Lol.
@mikes22706 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, thanks. I just bought a 2018 MT09 and now I know how to set up my suspension.
@milancernansky51226 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Just got my mt09 yesterday and the ride home was... interesting... so I know what I'm doing tomorrow. Setting up my suspension. Thank you.
@craigmayall75134 жыл бұрын
One of the best instructional videos I have seen on KZfaq. Great job. My XSR900 was murder to ride. Now its fantastic. Thanks man :)
@billsample39744 жыл бұрын
Have a similar bike and followed his instructions. Made a huge improvement! Like he said keep an open end and screwdriver in your pocket find a windy road with some bumps and stop adjust ride over and over to get it just right. For my Tracer 900 GT from factory settings i wound up increasing preload, front and rear. Increasing compression in the front and reducing or screwing in rebound front and rear.
@jeanc.24602 жыл бұрын
The most clearing and understandable vidéo to adjust bises suspension. Thx à lot from France!
@abramstewart62057 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the very helpful video! I'm 202lb and front forks were at 8 1/2 for a 30%. I love that I can watch you work on your bike. It's like watching you work on mine so it makes it easy
@spetersonmusic7 жыл бұрын
I really like that you've shown things with all preload out, all dampening out, etc - really nice to see that versus when you have it set. This is a WELL done video. Long time fan, really appreciate you doing this one in particular.
@TwoWheelObsession7 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@human15132 ай бұрын
Know that the fork's full travel end at the bottom is not all the way down to the very bottom of the inner tube's mating line at the outer housing. The end of its bottom travel will be a few mm's above the very bottom. This is in part so the seal does not ever slam into the bottom housing of the fork's outer black lower part on the bike you are showing. On one of my bikes this gap is 7 mm that the fork can never go down to. So it's full travel range stops at the bottom 7 mm above the fork's bottom foot. This can be determined by raising the front of the bilke so the wheel(s) are off the ground. Then the forks will be fully extended so you can now measuring from the fork seal all the way down to the out black part at the bottom. This measurement will be slightly longer than the full fork, wheel travel listed in the manual. The difference is the never used length of the inner fork. Also for springs as in the fork preload you start counting it fully up. Meaning #0 position is fully out upwards. Then to add tension, preload you turn down, clock wise, CW, inward. This is the opposite to counting the position for compression and rebound. Most manuals with describe this. Most amateurs do this wrong.
@HaggisPower5 күн бұрын
Correct, the fork stanchion is always a little longer than the available travel, but not by much. You can always try a different sag percentage, say 25 instead of 30% and see if the additional ride height feels better on the road.
@ritchsuk18407 жыл бұрын
Thank you from the UK for an easy to understand video, most other people try to make something into a science when it's not! Oh and nice new ride btw! Looking forward to some more videos :)
@TwoWheelObsession7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and that's the goal of my vids!
@lockandloaded62187 жыл бұрын
ritchsuk iiii
@Dare_To_Imagine Жыл бұрын
Really nice video! But there's a big mistake! You consider the exposed part of the fork like the total travel, but it is not! You should completely extend the fork lifting the tire from the ground and put an adhesive tape at the distance of the total travel indicated on the manual, measuring from the dust seal. This will be for sure some millimeters higher than the calipers casting. That's the limit of the travel of the forks! Sorry for my bad english, i hope to have been clear enough. 😉✌️
@Klittle0107 жыл бұрын
i'm saving up for the mt09 and because i'm a short lightweight rider it's very nice to see how this bike's suspension works so i can set it up for myself! great video thanks!!
@Moto_wolf1098 Жыл бұрын
Lol i love your videos legit the only guy i watch when i have any issues with my fjr. I just installed a quick shifter from one of your other videos and can’t wait to tune my suspension
@BAHRAMCR7 жыл бұрын
The reason I feel that way is because I have never seen an aftermarket pipe that looks integrated with the bike's look. But you mentioned that the aftermarket pipe is much lighter, and from what I remember from my old physics class, that would raise the center of gravity of the bike, which may be a detriment to the bike's performance. But then u are the one who can tell us if it is true or not, or even noticeable.
@Dano8316 жыл бұрын
Getting my 2017 FZ09 in a few weeks. Your videos are a goldmine for a new FZ09 owner. Thanks for 1st class info.
@daniels68173 жыл бұрын
For sure the best street suspension adjustment video. Thank you very much for you time sir!
@stephenjando42854 жыл бұрын
What an awesome video! You've done a great job of explaining the whole process and what each control does. I have personally learned a lot from your video as I never understood the 'voodoo magic' of suspension and exactly how it works until now. Thank you very much for taking the time to make this video. I'm sure it has helped a lot of people other than myself. Well done!
@tylerjones81796 жыл бұрын
I use to watch a bunch of your cigar reviews when I was smoking cigars. I knew I saw you somewhere. Keep up the passions and the good work.
@RobertAna5 жыл бұрын
I can't stop worrying about you putting your side stand into your big toe! It happened to me once, and I lost my toe nail... Not a pleasant experience! Worrying aside, I appreciate your videos!
@jeremyrawlings7662 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to go home and use this with my new mt09 sp. You took a lot of my fear of adjusting out of the way.
@johntutto82315 жыл бұрын
Hi Brian juat wanted to send you a shout out for the great work that you are doing and a thank you. i have the same bike and color since April of 2017 and loving every minute of it. By far the most fun i've had on any bike i owned from riding to modifing to maintaining it. Thanks for the great videos and keep them coming.
@TwoWheelObsession5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@boraboyvr64 жыл бұрын
Last year I bought a brand new Yamaha R6, I just did the suspension adjustments yesterday and I can tell the difference!! Thanks for the video!
@tbrama41435 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I just did the setup on my 2015 MT09 Tracer. I own it for a month now and it felt too soft on the front. It was on the standard setup, way too soft for me. I used your way to do the measurements. Really helpful to me! Greetings from the Netherlands.
@fadideek176 жыл бұрын
very helpful and practical, thorough and good to understand. thank you from Vancouver Canada . love the red FZ09
@groovinonfunk5 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! As a new 2017 FZ-09 owner, this was super helpful. I just started going on spirited canyon rides in the twisties and the factory suspension settings were not very confidence inspiring. I'm only 170 lbs but definitely still needed to make some adjustments. Your video is much appreciated!
@Adam-dx9qh3 жыл бұрын
I watch Cigar Obsession from time to time, was delighted to stumble across this channel as well! Thanks for the great info Brian!
@clarkeyjdm75466 жыл бұрын
Amazing video and was very helpful, I bought my MT-09 2017 six month ago and found the suspension very bouncy due to it being at factory settings. Now my bike is setup up for me and handles great!! Thanks :)
@OutdoorsIQ5 жыл бұрын
This helped me more then my Dave Moss subscription. Much more in-tune for an amateur like me :)
@wirenut30204 жыл бұрын
OutdoorsIQ Are you kidding? Dave Moss rules! Dave would have told you that the front suspension on this bike won’t stop bouncing up and down because it’s terrible and the fix is 20 weight fork oil in the rebound fork leg. He shows you how to do it and he shows you how to adjust the air gap to stop the fork from bottoming out. All for a one month subscription and a search! He also shows you how to clean and maintain your bike.
@thef1toaster5822 жыл бұрын
This video is really helpfull for someone who is beginner! Thanks a lot
@homeboyerik5 жыл бұрын
The best tutorial about suspension setup
@user-bj3xo3fh5f7 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot man. That was an awesome video. As a new rider myself, you helped me a lot in understanding how the suspension works and is adjusted. Keep at it!
@Mpostor.7 жыл бұрын
Now I feel comfortable and confident to set up all my suspension on my 17 FZ-09! Thank you👍
@jprafael3 жыл бұрын
I believe everything has already been said, your video is awesome! I've been waiting for a while to do this but now I feel I have the proper knowledge to do it by myself. Thank you for sharing. One small tip though, I believe that the best way to get the rider sag measurement should be taken with the rider equipment on. Keep up with this awesome work!
@emiletelkamp86576 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this tutorial! When i get my MT 09 i will do this to get the right settings.
@JagdeepSingh-sy2mh7 жыл бұрын
Very clear and precise. Much appreciated. You're a very patient guy.
@oolaspalmas4 жыл бұрын
For me it looked like rebound in front could not handle spring even at fully closed. It was still bounsing. I guess that shows sheap suspension at action. For skinny riders this could still work.
@wirenut30204 жыл бұрын
oolaspalmas yes Dave Moss says to change to a heavier fork oil in the rebound leg - 20 weight or upgrade the fork internals.
@oldsmokie1014 жыл бұрын
Wire Nut Yup. The damping is woeful. Heavier oil will slow the bounce down. Then use rebound adjuster to fine tune. To be fair, 2w is showing the basics without mods. If it's not in spec for sag, change springs and oil in forks for rebound.
@eugeneanderson88846 жыл бұрын
Hey Brian, I have a question on the rear sag adjustment. For that adjustment I would think you would need to take all the weight off the rear and take an initial measurement. From that you would want to deduct the 30% to get the static + rider adjustment. Adjusting based on that total would leave 70% of the total wheel travel accounting for bike, bags, gear and rider. You are doing this for the front, since you have the ability to measure directly off the forks the 70% remaining. By taking the 1.5” off the static sag, you miss the change in wheel travel that has occurred by loading with bags, trunks, etc. Am I thinking about that correctly?
@TwoWheelObsession6 жыл бұрын
If you carry bags/trunk/etc. regularly consider that part of the bike and measure static sag with all that on. Rider sag is just adding you and your wearable gear.
@maverick60534 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I just finished doing my MT09, and its like another bike... way more in control. Thank you!
@ShoneSan4 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, just bought New mt09, and exploring to learn this and came to your channel, going to try it now, thx, and greets from Serbia 💪
@ianrycroft15233 жыл бұрын
Just set my tracer 900 2017 up by your video it was miles out but seems way better up now, just need to go for a run
@karlos36113 жыл бұрын
Wow one of the best suspension set ups videos I've seen...Very well explained.....Anyone remotely interested in setting their own bike up for the street needs to digest this information. Byran just one slight confusion please put me right if you read this comment. You said the FZ09 only had rebound damping on the rear but when you were pushing down on the rear with full damping you said it felt harder to push down and im thinking that only compression damping would make it harder to push down? Please correct me if im wrong. Im a new subscriber will be looking at your other videos for sure.
@DylanGSXR3 жыл бұрын
Very good video , clear and very simply put , one thing i will say the fork's are fully adjustable and having comp in fork and rebound in the other is a better way of doing it as the oil only has one job to do in each leg , on forks with comp and rebound in both legs you'll get rebound at top and comp at bottom so it has much more going on inside the fork and doesn't work as well , keeping it separate is a much better design. Thanks again . keep up the great video's 😉
@Sp0tMansStuff3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this mate! Just set up my new (to me) 2017 MT09 here in Australia. Great video, clear instructions and good pointers! Much appreciated. 👍
@geneshaw12347 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this guide. Had very little knowledge on this and turns out my sag was not the same on both sides. I had a slight oscillation in the front at high speed, and after correctly setting the sag and other settings on my XSR900 the oscillation is gone. Thanks again!
@TwoWheelObsession7 жыл бұрын
+GrudusDFW cool!
@user-pq1dm2jr2p5 жыл бұрын
Great video will be doing so this weekend I had a close call with the bike wobbling at a decent speed I almost lost it because my suspension was to soft
@bob80865 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the new mt come with more adjustability my 14’ only had one or two
@cyphertheory5 жыл бұрын
Best suspension video I have seen, thank you for taking the time to make it!
@broderp3 жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused. Why care about sag? The bike will sag when the rider is on it and if so, then that's what we adjust to. As long as we make the numbers with the rider on the bike why care about sag? Or is it that we want to be sure there is some sag? (If not - then what? ) I may have missed it, but what were the settings when you checked sag? default? All out or all in? I will be doing this to my new Z900, but it only has preload and rebound for front and rear. Oddly, it only has one adjustable shock in the front, seems like a bad idea as one shock is doing all the work. GREAT video. Thank you for sharing this.
@chincemagnet5 жыл бұрын
I’m 270 lbs., my settings were front and rear preload at 5, front Rebound at 10, front Compression at 8, rear Rebound at 1.5, feels really good For my 2018 MT09 new front Compression and Rebound were set at 3, front preload was 3, rear Rebound was .75 and rear preload was 5 brake dive was horrendous and rear super bouncey
@andybowie85905 жыл бұрын
Followed it right to the part near the end when you said that the rear was noticeably harder to push down when the rebound damping was at it's max, but why would it be harder to compress the rear? I don't know the specs of the mt09 maybe the rear adjuster is a combined compression and rebound adjuster? Other than that I'm lost why adjusting the rebound would affect compression.
@balazsrepasi80355 жыл бұрын
Wow, great video. Thanks for taking your time. I've got mt 10 i think is just too hard on the shock. Thanks again
@justasmincius67594 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I just did suspension on my 2018 FZ09 again (all standard). Funny enough I am the same weight as the guy in the video, so the settings used in the video was good starting point for me. However to get the same 3.9 inches showing at the front I had to go all the way in with the pre-load and I am still getting like 3.8. My guess is that my bike is 2yo now and the oil in the forks must have become thinner and the internal valves must be behaving differently. So even if you had your suspension dialled a while ago, you might want to consider doing it again
@shawn950sm5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I just adjusted mine tonight after watching your video . The rear was a little confusing my rear was at 5 spot or 2 spots from full spring compression 7 I have the same exact bike as yours and Im 185 no gear on I did get 1.5 inch exact rider sag and front is right on also so will see tomorrow after testing it . thanks for the helpful video ...
@mymotosai50363 жыл бұрын
his setting of 3 sounds way too soft IMO for someone 250+ pounds. I went through comments to see him correct this and he didn't. He should be at 5 min or even 6
@supamotodragunova36742 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. So glad I found it. I have 2017 fz09 so this was perfect for me.
@WonderboyCollections7 жыл бұрын
Hi TwoWheelObsession, thank you for the wonderful videos I am learning a lot from you. I am from Australia and getting my new MT 09 in two weeks time so excited keep up the wonderful videos on useful information!
@thumpertorque_5 жыл бұрын
I'm learning this for street riding on my DRZ400SM. I'm planning on riding with a passenger and to compensate for the extra weight, should I stiffen up the high and low speed compression? Setting the pre load is a hefty process so should I be fine with just compression adjustment? Also should I just stiffen the rear or the front too? Thanks.
@motomehanicar4594 жыл бұрын
This is way batter explained than famouse Dave Moss ever explained anything.
@Echo4Yankee3 жыл бұрын
I'm really starting to like that FJR. I think that will be my next bike in ~6-8 years.
@MCTeck7 жыл бұрын
I weigh 248lbs. My heavy leather jacket, boots, back protector, leather pants and helmet weight 14lbs. I set my sag with full gear on. One other thing to consider when your bike gets many miles on it, [example] when my 1994 Yamaha FZR 1000[sold at 98k] reached over 50kmiles,I noticed the sag in rear had increased . The spring was starting to wear. Made an adjustment,good again. I also had a Yamaha XT 600 dualsport. At about 60k, the front fork springs got soft to the point the bike was a handful in the dirt.Replaced springs with progressive wound springs. Rode good again.
@TheBirkin77 жыл бұрын
Good work Brian and like everyone else thanks for the videos. I'm about to take delivery of a 2017 MT/FZ 09 and your videos are very helpful. Please keep the videos coming :)
@ianrycroft15233 жыл бұрын
Just bought a tracer 900 2017 so will have a play with it at the weekend ,only just bought the bike and only 2,800 miles on it
@user-fl6ui1pr9l4 жыл бұрын
Gold! Best explanation I could find. Thanks for caring and sharing!
@Mr.Thrilll4 жыл бұрын
Finally found a good video on suspension. Thanks man 👍
@dnlgrhm7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great. You get better and better at explaining things.
@TwoWheelObsession7 жыл бұрын
+Daniel Graham thx! I've gone long, short, think I've settled in between.
@timecrawler88107 жыл бұрын
Great job Brian Definitely one of the best explanations I have seen yet.
@ImNotStalkingYou4 жыл бұрын
Factory setting on the like new 2014 fz09 I just bought is like one of those rocking horses on a big spring at the mcdonalds playground back in the day. Thinking the rebound is going to make a big difference
@Ben-cb7uq4 ай бұрын
Like many wrote, it was comprehensive and just what I needed. One question though, what would you tune if a passenger sat on the back with luggage? I know rear sag for sure, maybe check front sag.. So rebound has to done again? Any advice would be welcome.
@233kosta Жыл бұрын
I've had to back the rear preload all the way out to get mine to match. Adjustable forks would have been helpful.
@jeffgrainger8277 жыл бұрын
Thank you for simplifying a simple process .
@2GreekWheels5 жыл бұрын
Best suspension setup video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Brilliant!
@ipodkill317 жыл бұрын
informative and very easy to understand. I appreciate the time and effort to make this video!
@shlomilaloosh37453 жыл бұрын
Thank You very much for such a comprehensive explanation
@starlord26604 ай бұрын
I set my front preload up, it was way out from factory. But then I checked my rear and the travel was bang on. So I'm wondering if I've done the front a bit too much? Maybe I could wind it out a bit then tighten the rear and recheck?
@darwinsinthavong83232 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, I actually learned so much here!
@Roads4us3 жыл бұрын
Great video, easy to follow, great information
@TwoWheelObsession3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@murrayhillis13485 жыл бұрын
That was such a helpful video. I look forward to setting up my 2016 FJ-09.