Your channel makes me think nobody in my area knows how to club fit.
@paulmoger89613 жыл бұрын
Exactly. My experience of club fittings is basically a shop sales guy letting you try several different clubs and you end up buying the one where we have a sort of vague mutual agreement on which is best. I've never really felt there was any great, in depth swing analysis. My conclusion is that a genuine fitting is a paid service, separate from the purchase of the clubs themselves.
@redstone51493 жыл бұрын
You’re most likely correct. Same deal with golf instructors.
@fornuto12886 ай бұрын
until you realize golf champion fits u to zero stock options in any club (driver/iron set)disregarding any of the companies offerings and tries to put you in the most egregious over the top shaft setup and gives u an estimate nearing $3,000
@bradbop767Ай бұрын
@fornuto1288 although Ian is now a part of club champion, I choose to believe he stands out in comparison
@and16942Ай бұрын
@@fornuto1288I’ve gone to both TXG and club champions for my past 2 fits and I’ve left with the options that best fit me. Stock works for my irons. I had a stock option for my driver but I like the performance of the upgrade so I went with that. Who did you fit with? My experience was excellent
@fholojr3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely adding "not a quacker" to the long list of "Ian-isms" that have worked their way into my golf vocabulary.
@jpbackhouse3 жыл бұрын
When Ian gets in technical explanation mode, his passion massively comes out, like he goes into flow mode.
@nicklaus45123 жыл бұрын
I knew nothing about equipment before finding TXG. Now I’m geeking on out on videos about shaft tipping and EI curves
@sockjohnson3 жыл бұрын
After finding TXG I became addicting to being fit for clubs. Golf game loves it. The wife and my wallet hates it
@edwinchan65213 жыл бұрын
Looool same
@blakebarrilleaux80733 жыл бұрын
Ian: "Hey guys, welcome back". Me: Likes video
@johnpalmer57133 жыл бұрын
Standard drills
@johnarrowsmith88623 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start using "quacker" on the course
@adamm99273 жыл бұрын
Would love Kuchar’s thoughts on tipping
@bobbygrey58593 жыл бұрын
That's a great one, LMAO👍
@adl97053 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Chasing-Red2 жыл бұрын
Funny shit dude….
@steverichardson91333 жыл бұрын
Ian is the shaft whisperer.. he can make a golf club perform.. crazy knowledgeable..
@scottlang71303 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Ventus red velocore on eBay and found out it was tipped 1”. Had in back of my mind it was ruined and now a different shaft. You guys confirmed I have nothing to worry about. I wish there was a fitter in DFW that knew and approached fitting even half as good as Ian. Feel like I’m better off watching Ian and fitting myself than going to most “fitters” around
@stevenorthbank3 жыл бұрын
Guys, just wanted to say thank you for your videos, I'm a "why does that work like that" kind of person and your videos have given me an understanding of why golf is so hard to get right...😊
@georgesteer41373 жыл бұрын
I thought shaft "tipping" was what you did when someone did a great job of fitting you.
@johnparker49183 жыл бұрын
This video shows just how high quality that the fitting service that TXG provides
@timothydaniels5043 жыл бұрын
The way a properly fitted shaft helps you find the middle of the club face still makes me smile. The ball marks and wear are beginning to accumulate right in the middle. It’s impressive, if I say so myself. I can listen to you guys talk shafts all day long!
@golf_is_a_happy_place99903 жыл бұрын
i can watch you 2 discuss technical issues like this all day. great video and explanation of tipping
@insanity61053 жыл бұрын
Possibly there are more folks than you realize that enjoy all this techie stuff. Please keep it up as this is the only place I’ve found to get that sort of discussion.
@AeroMaize3 жыл бұрын
How does this channel not have at least 500k subs? Some of the best content around an quality delivery.
@adrianjacome87143 жыл бұрын
Guys in my experience tipping 1.5” reduces spin while maintaining launch angle pretty close. Over a lot data that will become apparent, in my experience. Typically you wouldnt do that if you have low spin shaft or low spin head. Its usually when you need to reduce spin on a forgiving head again in my experience across 50 players i have tried it wirh.
@Crampyton13 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed we'll be seeing an SST Pureing video soon as well as that will tie in with what Ian was mentioning about the shaft drooping at impact etc. I'd love to hear what he has to say about it. Great stuff again!
@kareemchallenger3 жыл бұрын
Pureing is real, one can definitely see the difference
@canyonaro3 жыл бұрын
@@kareemchallenger I've had my whole set pured and I noticed the annoying label positions more than any playing benefit. Hate the TM shaft adapters for the same reason. The Callaway & Titleist ones don't spin the shaft. Paying for pure'ing, then having it rotated off that axis because I adjusted the hosel, made me nuts.
@kareemchallenger3 жыл бұрын
@@canyonaro I know what you mean. I also have my entire set pured, I know when I changed the position to test, literally rotate the shaft 180 I spun my 3 wood by 1000 rpm more and it would go much higher. All of the that is with no loft change.
@bl_pga3 жыл бұрын
I saw the title and go so excited that we might finally see Mikey in a video!
@clubchampionmedia3 жыл бұрын
😆 it's coming eventually!
@bobbyk34693 жыл бұрын
"I feel "this" or I feel "that". You have to love the feedback you get from Matt. Something you can't get from a robot. Invaluable information.
@claytonpetree5273 жыл бұрын
Shaft tipping is a great way to manipulate the ball flight - it seems like the OEMs don't really tip their fairway woods properly and just install as if a driver shaft. Maybe it's not true for every company, but the OEM ones almost never play 'right' compared to when I buy one, tip it per the shaft manufacturer's instructions, and build the club myself. For the longest time, TM had that shallow hosel bore as well, so it was good to pull their install and tip a little bit as well, if you wanted it to play like the same shaft in other clubs. More difficult now with the changeable tips.
@thekid53453 жыл бұрын
Are you saying to tip more than the manufacturers instructions?
@claytonpetree5273 жыл бұрын
@@thekid5345 No, I am saying to follow their instructions. But I don't think all the OEM assembly does follow the full tipping instructions. I have played a lot of the Aerotech SS85X shaft over the years (they are from my hometown) and I can tell you tipping makes a HUGE difference when putting them in different woods. Also making sure your iron shafts are FULLY seated in the hosel, especially PING where they taper the hosel - I can post pictures of my OEM iron pulls where the shafts have been inserted by Ping to random depths, even with their hydraulic seating device. Would be nice to know if the boys at TXG have a similar experience.
@thekid53453 жыл бұрын
@@claytonpetree527 interesting. I was thinking about sending my next iron set to KBS directly and having them install the shafts I want. As for drivers and fairways all of this stuff is pretty overwhelming. Any problems with TItleist and driver shaft installs?
@claytonpetree5273 жыл бұрын
@@thekid5345 Although I loved their product, I have not played a Titleist metalwood since the 983E and K drivers were out. Those had the through bore. Honestly, you would be best served going through a place like TXG to ensure you get EXACTLY what you want. I hope to some day, even though I often build my own stuff. These guys are amazing.
@davidbrown5773 жыл бұрын
I could listen to these all day. Wait a minute, I usually do lol
@ccmorgan533 жыл бұрын
Love this . Would be nice to see the affect of soft or hard stepping as well
@brewssssss_3 жыл бұрын
Here they come “MATTY!!! WHY DIDNT YOU PLAY THE SIM THIS YEAR?!?” 😂
@sonicpebble3 жыл бұрын
Butt Soft.... basically describing me after this year of Covid go-nowhere couch sitting... (Aaaaaand I think I better stop there before making any sort of joke on some of the other terms used in this video. 😂 )
@wviti643 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated guys! Great test to confirm tipping is a gentle adjustment ....
@yoder93393 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would have thought the tipping would have had greater effect. Thanks gents.
@holeinoneman5153 жыл бұрын
What i have found when I've tipped my own shafts, it just makes it more consistent, just like Matt said. Loving the videos boys.
@ZefrossMoss773 жыл бұрын
Extremely informative guys. Would love to see a video with checking the tipping of Ventus Black/Blue vs no tipping. Great video!
@christickle70263 жыл бұрын
Its the same. I tipped my blue. Les whip im the head
@markk58853 жыл бұрын
So good seeing Ian’s passion on videos like this, feel like I’m learning every video.
@robbusheay42583 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much guys ! I have been kinda the local club builder in my neighborhood....and only because I always played around with my own equipment !!! You both have taught me so much on the tech side, and I totally appreciate it !!! What started as me, just changing my own grips and shafts.....to all kinds of tweeks.on others gear......lol !! I pretty much do it for fun, as the guys pay for any parts !! I love this stuff and only wish I wasn't so damn old, I'd start a shop.....I'm 68 and having fun !!!
@jaychu38503 жыл бұрын
Always the best explanation of technical golf speak
@simonreed893 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid!! I tipped a fujikura speeder 84g reg, 1.5 inch for my cobra f7 5 wood, best thing i ever did, exactly as said makes the head feel firmer and more in control
@cope96923 жыл бұрын
These are the videos that separates you from the rest.... please more tech... txg so cal🤟🤙
@terryschade13473 жыл бұрын
Great stuff guys! I'd be interested in learning more about whether tipping moves a shaft from an S to X flex in the same product. For example, a tipped Ventus Blue 6-S becomes more like a Ventus Blue 6-X.
@Netflickk Жыл бұрын
Me too can u give me some advice
@camsimkins47653 жыл бұрын
Man this is great content. Have gone down the rabbit hole trying to understand my equipment, so good to have an understanding before looking at fitting upgrades
@scottdarrow15512 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. Just wanted to say I've learned so much from you and how much I appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experiences. I understand the value of getting fitted. Only problem is there really aren't any fitters I trust in my area. I've been to 2 recently and because of you I know more than both of them combined. Needless to say I waisted both my time and money and went away empty handed. I purposely left there names out as I'm not looking to bash anyone So!!! I'm left with trying to fit myself. With a current driver, Callaway XR with 5.5 flex my swing speed is rather low @ 80 mph. I hit the heel low quite a bit (probably my swing path) using Regular flex. I'm sure this isn't helping my swing speed. I'm 65 years YOUNG and in pretty good shape. Shafts I'm looking at are Bassara Series E 42 and Tensei AV Blue 55. The heads I'm considering are Cobra Speed Zone and Speed Zone Extreme. I'm reluctant to go to Senior shaft but won't completely disregard. I do have a rather smooth tempo. I try to emulate Freddy Couples. I know thats a lofty goal. I understand there are no absolutes but I am interested in your thoughts. Thank you in advance, ScottyD
@whogg05213 жыл бұрын
So interesting. I built my 2016 M2 Kurakage x-stiff tipped 1/2 an inch, simply because I loved the feel of my friend's driver set-up. I assumed what it did, but nice to really see the technical details around it
@andrewnicholls77203 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what any of that meant but I loved it! Might need to watch it a couple more times, keep the techy videos coming!
@MM-zb9kc3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. If you ask Fujikura they say not to tip the Ventus at all but if needed 1/2 to 1 inch at most.
@curtvass62363 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering about this for years and now I get it! Also learned a new term - Quacker :) Thanks guys you're the best.
@DanielRodrigues-hn8cx3 жыл бұрын
Love this video, can't wait to see what the rest of the builders series will be like. Keep the great videos coming
@andyk92573 жыл бұрын
A blind test to see if you can tell which one is tipped would be a fun test too to see if your preconceptions are making you feel something that's not there or maybe you're reacting to those preconceptions
@awp76623 жыл бұрын
I did it a few years ago purely out of wanting to save a shaft that had shattered at the tip. Had an inch cut off the tip and an inch extension put on and it really stabilised the shaft. Probably played better for me so from then on I decided to go x flex rather than stiff. Can see some interesting stuff coming from this video, looking forward to it!⛳🏌️👍🏼
@tyerambo79633 жыл бұрын
Having a pro launch red I have been waiting for this for a long time. Thank you guys great video guys.
@ericmaher23163 жыл бұрын
Nearly like Ian’s father or grandfather was a fly fishing rod fitter cuz this type of flex in the shafts is very much like a fly fishing rod. Great video lads
@papashuk263 жыл бұрын
So does Matt run on batteries or do you plug Him in every night?
@jeffpigott24403 жыл бұрын
Always learning something new from the lads. Keep it coming!
@swingking833 жыл бұрын
Interested to see these other test you mentioned. That sounds super exciting! I’m game. Complete nerd with this type of stuff
@paulduarte22613 жыл бұрын
I've never heard "Butt stiffness" or "Butt stiff shaft" ever lol. Keep up the great work!!
@gregoryh46013 жыл бұрын
Just love to see iron Mattie hit away! Thank TXG. Keep up the great work.
@waynemayo83993 жыл бұрын
My driver strikes tend to always be low in the face and towards the toe. Found 5his very interesting to watch, especially talking about deflection. Looking forward to seeing the video about head weight and how it influences shaft deflection.
@ShaneDempsey3 жыл бұрын
You may have done this already but would love to see a video where you compare a low lofted driver with high launch shaft vs high lofted driver and low launch shaft. How close would the flights get, what are the benefits of one over the other? Seems DJ is using high loft and low launch shaft
@jbcrowe73 жыл бұрын
Love, love, love this video! I’m getting a Tour AD IZ 7X. I want to play it at 45 inches. How would I know if I should be trimming from the butt or tip section?
@JohnFishburne13 жыл бұрын
I played Ventus black 6x tipped an inch and it was hard to hit straight. Very easy to work draws and cuts but when I need a straight ball it was never there. Went back to normal black 6x. Great video.
@timmygolfs3 жыл бұрын
Cheers guys great video. Semi-related, could you guys do a video on frequency matching? And fitting customers to a specific frequency vs. fitting customer to a more general flex. I got fit 8 years ago and was told I was a 6.9. Is this still a good practice for fittings, especially irons?
@lalambdasАй бұрын
Keeping the shaft the same length by tipping it would probably not change the flex profile as much since it only shifts the “soft” point a “negligible” amount. However tipping it and playing it 1” or more shorter (cut from the butt), I hypothesize, would make a more significant difference than stock .
@flymusial3 жыл бұрын
Had my ventus blue tipped just a little extra for a little lower spin. This was also thought to allow me to grow into it some as i work on increasing my swing speed. Or at least thats my fitters thoughts.
@mattdonovan48603 жыл бұрын
I have an M4 3w that was tipped standard by taylor made and it completely changed the feel of the shaft and the head to me. I wasn’t a fan bc it made the tip too stiff for me. Live and learn
@maxcaysey28443 жыл бұрын
This is super interesting... I hope you one day will have Mark Crossfield over and giev him a fitting session... It would make for great content on both your channels!
@chadkimmelshue86773 жыл бұрын
So are we saying that tipping a shaft decreases the spin a little bit? Looks like about ~150rpm from this example. Every little bit matters for some people
@ianfrasergolf3 жыл бұрын
That would be a fair assessment. 100-300rpm
@chadkimmelshue86773 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrasergolf Great thanks Ian. One more thing, in general it does or doesn't change the shaft profile? Was a little confused when you guys mentioned it could completely change the shaft profile. Thanks!
@talltimball3 жыл бұрын
Great video. You mentioned the standard shaft was tipped 1/2", Is that to compensate for your universal (club conex)adaptor?
@crubie743 жыл бұрын
7:07 "This drive has been redacted to protect the innocent".
@ciaranbl3 жыл бұрын
Love the technical video guys.
@chrisbye82033 жыл бұрын
Really interesting as always, great stuff guys.
@jaredvotaw86103 жыл бұрын
Can we actually get a ventus purple though? I don’t care what it is it would just look sick 😍
@TheOgieone3 жыл бұрын
Excellent info, i was always curious about shaft tipping.
@robsumpter66613 жыл бұрын
The gear geek in me is purring
@santiagodeponce93903 жыл бұрын
You guys have grown on me!
@Jayhawk1233 жыл бұрын
Love this video! Was very interesting to see that Adam Scott put the ventus red into his driver and led the field in Houston. Do you know if his ventus was tipped? Cheers!
@zanesmith92583 жыл бұрын
Such a great video. awesome stuff guys
@nickpritchard71303 жыл бұрын
Another very interesting vid. Great stuff. thanks
@shortgameanalysis13997 ай бұрын
useful video, thank you guys
@shaneducholke3643 жыл бұрын
I was told that you needed to have a fast swing speed to even consider tipping, can tipping be beneficial for a slower swing speed? Asking for a friend cause I obviously have a 120 mph swing speed and hit the ball 350 yds 😉😉
@canyonaro3 жыл бұрын
It's a good solution if you like the feel of a shaft but want a little more stability at impact. It can also be useful to get the tip just a little more stout if you're using a heavier-headed driver to get your preferred swingweight. Similar to hard-stepping iron shafts, it's a subtle difference. Ventus is a very stout shaft. Evenflow Riptide S was way too soft for me & Ventus S is borderline too stiff. For a player with say mid-90s speed that feels the S is just a bit too much, tipping an R flex would effectively give you an "R+". Oddly enough, Fujikura doesn't recommend tipping these much. The Velocore is in the tip & is the signature feature so if you're just going to cut it off, you aren't buying the right shaft.
@shaneducholke3643 жыл бұрын
@@canyonaro thx for the info.
@benross4223 жыл бұрын
Please do the one about headweight
@gd-vh7ow3 жыл бұрын
Hi ian good video. sent you a quick note around shaft options (stock or aftermarket) to the members email. Just to finalize your recommendations. Thanks.
@drew202383 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! I love the tech content
@CedricEHan3 жыл бұрын
Top notch
@HWWlInsuranceLawAcademy3 жыл бұрын
After reviewing this again, it looks to me like the max height is the same for both shafts. Also, I think Ventus red tipped 2 inches versus black would be an interesting comparison (not that you don't already have 500 things on your plates - lol), but actually I would bet that you might not see that much difference in an in-house test - that might be more obvious after a summer of playing I think.
@jnzk7123 жыл бұрын
Great video! So informative.
@xavierdumas26283 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Have you measured the torque after tipping it? i am quite interessed to know by how much it has lowered.
@wallstreetoneil3 жыл бұрын
So tipped as much as you ever would, 2 inches, it knocked off 200rpms of spin & and gave you about 1/2 a degree of additional dynamic toe-up - which for Matt, even though he liked the 'stiffer' feel, it puts him closer to the edge of the dipping draw ball - which is what we saw. It's maybe a good rule-of-thumb to start with filling out the information of, and that is, is each 1 inch of tipping worth 'approx' 100rpms of reduced spin and 1/4 degree of dynamic toe-up
@clubchampionmedia3 жыл бұрын
won't be the same for everyone, so we wouldn't come to those conclusions as a blanket statement for all players (will vary based on swing delivery characteristics)
@wallstreetoneil3 жыл бұрын
@@clubchampionmedia as i said, worth building a rule-of-thumb database (series of videoes with 10 popular shafts) - which of course will possibly work in the opposite fashion for half of golfers who deliver the shaft differently - but would still be interesting information for everyone to misapply
@kingshark59383 жыл бұрын
Cool video, ... my gripe is with manufacturers raw length of 46" and for some that have to play shorter lengths, the gruesome amount of material that has to be taken off. Me personally, if i went with oems, .5 to 1" tip, I have to take loads off the back end, and that reduces the stiffness. I've now taken 3" from the tip sand it to fit, and take far less from the butt. Would love to see oems, make 44" and maybe even 42 raw for 3w builds. Just so it's not just flex dialing in, but we dont lose much shaft weight as well in the process.
@marinmb443 жыл бұрын
That’s why the tendency is to use 5-15 grams heavier in the 3 wood shaft when compared to the driver.. because more material is to be cut off
@heithcomer68953 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!!!
@wilsonhung86543 жыл бұрын
This is so good, period.
@chadz67283 жыл бұрын
Thoughts on tipping a graphite design shaft? The manufacturer says you don’t need to. Most other premium shafts I’ve looked at require at least a little bit of tipping on the instructions
@michaelmarcase75613 жыл бұрын
I game the Ventus Black 7x tipped 1”, Mavrik head 10 degrees. I love it. I bought it second hand so I’ve never compared it to anything else. So my thought is, should I tip everything?
@markking37793 жыл бұрын
Ian...Quick Question..your opinion on the Graphite Design Tour AD IZ driver shaft 6x...Tks....
@ianfrasergolf3 жыл бұрын
Good shaft. Very versatile, you see it played by many different players and swing types.
@markking37793 жыл бұрын
@@ianfrasergolf Much appreciated Tks Ian 👍👍👍
@SnoXRacer1833 жыл бұрын
LOVE this tech video!
@MikesaBhoy3 жыл бұрын
Is there a bigger difference for players that aren’t as consistent? Like, does tipping it help more?
@lorenroot76672 ай бұрын
How would a ventus red tr stiff, tipped 1”, compare to say an untipped X stiff? Thinking the 70 version in a 4 wood. Driver SS ~ 104-106. Generally I create too much spin
@L1GHTHECANDLE3 жыл бұрын
My wife watched this video with me and you have no idea how many times she said. “ That’s what she said” 😂
@brettanderson96743 жыл бұрын
Hey Guys love the video! Any chance you would be able to do a video explaining weather or not shaft extenders in irons are worth it or not? I bought a set i love but they are half inch short and i need standard or quarter inch long to make them work better for me
@shizu72903 жыл бұрын
The only shaft tip I need....is how to get my hands on an autoflex? ;)
@M_Go_Blue11 ай бұрын
What would you say is standard tipping for an adjustable driver? When I read the shaft manufacturer tipping charts, they all say that tipping is not necessary for drivers; however, it’s my impression that the club manufacturers all tip their shafts a certain amount. I play a TSR2 and would like to try some aftermarket shafts, but don’t know what Titleist uses for their standard tipping spec.
@johnpoe33733 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the opposite video follow up. Taking a super tip stiff shaft and testing no tipping vs tipping it 2 inches as you mentioned in the video.
@Labgorilla3 жыл бұрын
Nice to watch a fellow lefty stripe it
@bobbymosidi56853 жыл бұрын
Great content guys. Would you recommend Butt tipping a tensei white shaft for mini driver
@Iron_headify3 жыл бұрын
Matt's tempo looking smooth with this shaft
@geno81610 ай бұрын
I have a question. I have an in between golf swing on the driver (swing speed). I swing 109mph. I guess thats between a stiff and extra stiff flex.. I have always just stuck with the stiff. Would tipping it .5 inches make a stiff a stiff.5 (a tweener stiffness) or would it not work that way?