UConn's 2024-25 Allie Ziebell is a sharp shooter but will she be able to beat out Ashlynn Shade?

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5 ай бұрын

We take a deep dive on Allie Ziebell - in a nut shell she is a coaches kid and does everything right which includes taking 100k shots over summer. However will she be able to find time in UConn crowed back court?

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@shawsheen
@shawsheen 2 ай бұрын
Ashlynn is plain tough. She works at another level energy wise
@spinecat
@spinecat 5 ай бұрын
I like that Geno is going to be able to put a ton of shooters into the game--the opposition can't double up on anyone without leaving a path to the basket or an open sharpshooter. He usually manages to get good defense out his teams and even when undersized they can box out when they have to. Yeah, they've been killed by some teams that totally outsized them so getting some size going forward would be important especially with Aaliyah graduating. DeBerry (hometown girl for me) is clearly not the answer. Ice Brady hopefully can emerge next year as an Edwards sort of player.
@edwardloya8381
@edwardloya8381 4 ай бұрын
Good stuff/ great stuff!
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 4 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@jeromedanielson4422
@jeromedanielson4422 4 ай бұрын
I think Shade is a more physical player than Fudd. I am also beginning to think Shade is a better defender than Fudd.
@tablemasters616
@tablemasters616 Ай бұрын
Whoa
@KevinSutton-te8cs
@KevinSutton-te8cs Ай бұрын
NEITHER
@shaneandlauriebrown6266
@shaneandlauriebrown6266 Ай бұрын
Definitely a better defender and I think she will improve immensely to Nikka level status
@giftcardbill
@giftcardbill 5 ай бұрын
Nice take. A pleasant problem for Geno to have.
@johndurgin8737
@johndurgin8737 4 ай бұрын
Paige not leaving
@valleyridgesimmentals8969
@valleyridgesimmentals8969 4 ай бұрын
I think with a full roster it should help eleviate some of these injuries by give playing time farther down the bench and take some fatigue off these girls, too many injuries on one team. Another thing is getting these girls too lean, its a problem.
@brianmchugh3757
@brianmchugh3757 5 ай бұрын
Nice snapshot. Good work. As far as next year is concerned, i feel both Nika Muhl & Aubrey Griffin will move on. Paige is another story. If she hadn’t gotten hurt and essentially missed 1 1/2 years of playing time, I’d say it was a definite she would declare for the WNBA. The fact that the number of games Paige & Azzi have played when both are healthy may also factor in her decision. How the season ends will also come into play for her. Thinking ahead to next season, I think it is fair to say that UConn will have at least a 3 guard offense. Like you mentioned, this team will have an abundance of shooters. With Arnold at the point, UConn could potentially have wings like Shade, Ziebell, Fudd, Samuels & potentially Bueckers. That’s some firepower & teams would have to pick their poison in who to key on. I envision Cheli as more of a Griffin position type player, albeit with a better outside shot. The immediate future still looks bright.
@bertjones3010
@bertjones3010 4 ай бұрын
Well I'm sure God has a plan for her.
@shaneandlauriebrown6266
@shaneandlauriebrown6266 Ай бұрын
I think lots of people are getting carried away with the negativity of ice brady. She was essentially a freshman this year and i belive she will gain confidence in the off season and be a force in the paint next year along with el alphy
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 Ай бұрын
Tend to agree
@kmay3409
@kmay3409 26 күн бұрын
Sweet
@jimhicks584
@jimhicks584 Ай бұрын
They got Strong!
@usveteran9893
@usveteran9893 5 ай бұрын
I think by next year I would be starting Ashlyn Shade over Azzi Fudd. The reason I say this is because by next year Shade will be well seasoned, and she will be more durable, and Azzi is a hot and cold type player. One game Azzi scores 24 points the next game she is off and scores 12 [maybe less]. Just my opinion.
@torrinbianchi5283
@torrinbianchi5283 5 ай бұрын
She’s had two good games, I’d chill and wait
@TheDisruptiveOne
@TheDisruptiveOne 5 ай бұрын
@@torrinbianchi5283 i think it is something to keep an eye on. Shade seems like she offers some things beyond shooting on the basketball court. One of my criticisms of Azzi would be that if she has a bad shooting game... you get nothing from her. She doesn't steal the ball, rebound it, we saw how she did as a ball handler against the ohio state press. You are right that it is too soon for this talk. But I might be persuaded if these performances continue.
@richardking888
@richardking888 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Fudd is a dudd, t🏀🏀 much 🏀; knees are gone.
@lyledavis7175
@lyledavis7175 5 ай бұрын
Azzi who?
@Paul15.
@Paul15. 5 ай бұрын
They will both start. Even when Azzi is off she draws the defense to her. You have to stick with Azzi if she is off. Like the Iowa game last year. She had 2 points at half. She scored 23 or 25 in the 2nd half. No other player on the roster has done that in one half. Her problem is when she misses a few in a row she passes up shots. One of the things Q has that nobody else has is she shoots when she is open no matter what. Geno likes that. He will pull her if it gets too bad. That's what he wants from her,Azzi, Paige and now Ashley. Nika will be gone and maybe Paige. Hard to say what the starting lineup will be.
@calvinh.4682
@calvinh.4682 5 ай бұрын
As a UCONN fan I'm not concerned about Allie Ziebell beating out Shade next year. Competition is good. She just might bsurprise you too. I'm hoping for UCONN to acquire Sarah Strong and Rodriquez as Muhl, Edwards, Griffin and possibly Bueckers will be leaving at the end of this season so scholarships slots availability will not be an issue. If only Du Berry would transfer out. In addition I want UCONN to acquire a productive BIG from the portal for the 2024/25 season as I don't want them to be totally dependent on Jana El Alfy as she will recovering from a serious leg injury(torn achilles tendon).
@TheDisruptiveOne
@TheDisruptiveOne 5 ай бұрын
Rodriguez is a panic signing by UConn. And I don’t want her. Learn how to use the portal Geno! He would be better saved using the roster spot on portal talent.
@billnichols5381
@billnichols5381 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@TheDisruptiveOneNegatives about Rodriguez?
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 5 ай бұрын
@calvinh.4682 yep competition for guards to get playing time not a bad thing. But front court - oh dear - if they going into season depending on Ice, El Alfy, and DeBerry - wow would not be good. Need to land S Strong but also need a land a real traditional post via portal.
@TheDisruptiveOne
@TheDisruptiveOne 5 ай бұрын
@@billnichols5381 Not really seen her. But it is a total panic recruit by uconn. they didn't start monitoring her until after the signing period closed. Another bad sign. Who is their competition for this player? South Florida. Not a P5 or top ten contender. Its a sign that uconn is completely inept when it comes to using the portal. Because there is no reason to panic and take someone for 4 years. Just go get a one year bridge instead Geno!
@larrycollins3585
@larrycollins3585 4 ай бұрын
UConn needs to get more athletic, physical and of course a 6-5/6-6 big via transfer portal.
@IndianOutlaw1870
@IndianOutlaw1870 4 ай бұрын
She's sitting on their bench, injured.
@JohnSmith-np7yn
@JohnSmith-np7yn 2 ай бұрын
Without post help and a wing that can score, next year will be a repeat of this year. Junior College would be a good place to look since Geno is not fond of the portal.
@bethanyb5897
@bethanyb5897 5 ай бұрын
So guard heavy. Geno needs to look at bigs IMO. Ashlyn beats her out IF Ashlyn plays the way she has all season. She’s been incredible
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 5 ай бұрын
Geno needs to call 1 800 - I need a big . Preferably get one that can shoot run floor block shots and rebound - but yes they are thin up front
@bethanyb5897
@bethanyb5897 5 ай бұрын
Hahaha. That was good! A big that can do it all!! I’m disappointed with Ice so far. You??
@countyboy3988
@countyboy3988 3 ай бұрын
​​@@bethanyb5897I think that Geno's biggest is he refuses to open his eyes and acknowledge the fact that there's way more parody in women's college basketball right and all the other teams are smart enough to get bigs and he is still out here recruiting guards left and right and on top of that Ohio State last year and Notre Dame this year shows that teams dont fear the name UConn anymore 🤷🤷
@zedwpd
@zedwpd Ай бұрын
@@countyboy3988 he knows it.
@mikect05
@mikect05 5 ай бұрын
UConn (Sarah) Strong 💪🏽
@TheDisruptiveOne
@TheDisruptiveOne 5 ай бұрын
guys, she is not coming
@jimhicks584
@jimhicks584 Ай бұрын
Azzi anticipates like Paige, and is strong. Luv Ashlynn tho. Glad we have both.
@earlcabbel5523
@earlcabbel5523 4 ай бұрын
If Azzi is healthy (which is a big if) there is no way in my opinion that Ashlyn Shade beats her out. Both will make a huge contribution and it will be a great problem for Geno to have but I’m going with a healthy Azzi.
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 4 ай бұрын
I think they will be real slow with Azzi in terms of minutes and building her, just because of her past. I think the goal for Azzi next year is to make it the year without getting injured. if she could play 15 to 20 min per game and make it through the season without injury - that is a big win for her career and lets her build on trying to start in 2025-26.
@karonmoore6769
@karonmoore6769 5 ай бұрын
Who is Emily Rodriguez? You said she was offered a scholarship. Can’t find any video on her and she doesn’t show up on the top high school player ranking I looked at. Is she an international player.
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 5 ай бұрын
Believe she plays HS BB in Miami - is a point guard
@chrisj6express
@chrisj6express 4 ай бұрын
She’s not a top 100 player, probably not 200. Looks like desperation to some!!
@dlssteward9702
@dlssteward9702 2 ай бұрын
She came from the Dominican Republic in 2022 6'1 not rated Goes to school in Miami.
@dlssteward9702
@dlssteward9702 2 ай бұрын
Forward
@robertmasi9439
@robertmasi9439 2 ай бұрын
You can watch her on KZfaq.
@charliefortin555
@charliefortin555 4 ай бұрын
How tall is she?
@valerocrop1812
@valerocrop1812 5 ай бұрын
i dont think allie would be competing against ash, especially if ash can continue lighting it up. ash is good even if paige comes back.
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 5 ай бұрын
Depends on who goes and stays. but if Muhl, PB, Aubrey and Edwards go then think with player coming back and recruits the line up would be KK -PG, SG Shade (might play more pg) / Ziebell / Fudd , SF Q or Chili, PF - Ice / Caroline , centre Janna / DeBarry. Looks scary on paper. But to who ? opposition or UConn fans - old dog Geno needs a new trick -to get aggressive in portal!
@valerocrop1812
@valerocrop1812 5 ай бұрын
@@back2sports988 i think even if muhl comes back she’s not starting. guards are too good with or without paige returning. amari is still doubt will see the court if she’s unable to even crack the rotation right now. but i do agree he needs to be aggressive in getting a proven frontcourt player
@TheDisruptiveOne
@TheDisruptiveOne 5 ай бұрын
@@valerocrop1812 0% chance muhl comes back
@billnichols5381
@billnichols5381 5 ай бұрын
Good synopsis. Three thoughts/questions. 1) Potentially, UCONN could have 3 scholarships available for 2024. (Paige graduates. Inis…and thankfully DeBerry transfers. (Assumes a school would take her.). How could they realistically fill them all with quality players? 2) Shade has thus far proven to be a better all-around player than Fudd. She plays aggressive defense, steals, rebounds and so far, seems to be in much better shape/durable and not rattled into embarrassment as happened to Fudd, I.e., Ohio State, NC State, et Al. The issue is how much time Ziebell will take from Fudd. That assumes that Fudd is able to play, which is highly, highly doubtful. 3) Sadly, there’s no mention about Ducharme. Sad. Those minutes are going to someone else.
@TheDisruptiveOne
@TheDisruptiveOne 5 ай бұрын
Back 2 Sports mentioned some unlikely scenarios in the video. Nika, Aubrey, Aaliyah, Paige. I believe they are all gone. Paige is the only one that even might stay imo. I lean more towards her going pro though. Ducharme is done being a starter/major contributor imo. I believe Ines will be in the portal. She wants to play basketball. She has watched all of these talented freshmen pass her in the rotation. Cheli and Ziebell will do the same. Amari is going to stay. The previous summer was the time to go. Instead she stayed and signed a deal with the D'Amelio Collective. So, I think UConn would have 11 under scholarship; possibly 10 if Ducharme leaves the program. Strong would obviously have an invite if she wants it. UConn should use the portal in the summer. The starting lineup will be inexperienced; they probably need two starters out of the portal if the goal is to contend.
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 5 ай бұрын
True just don't know what will happen.i think PB will go but TBD. Yes did not mention Decharme as looking like medical ted shirt and really don't know if she will ever be able to play.
@tomkibbe835
@tomkibbe835 4 ай бұрын
​@@back2sports988doubt Paige goes.she wants to playw/Azzi and next tear is their latest chance. Plus with her NIL $ there is no financial incentive for her to leave fter this year.
@zedwpd
@zedwpd Ай бұрын
@@back2sports988 Paige stayed
@bondriley2694
@bondriley2694 5 ай бұрын
I think with Nika, Aubrey and possible Paige leaving Allie will be the help they need. I kind of wonder if Azzi will ever have a full season, her legs seem to be brittle. I would also encourge Inse and Amari to serously look at the transfer portal. Inse has to many really good guards on the better then her, she should look elsewhere. I don't think Amari will ever pan out, she just takes up a scholarship place, I'm sure there are players out there that would like to pull a Dorka and get better at UConn.
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 5 ай бұрын
I am keeping the faith on Azzi as want a happy story. Debarry not going anywhere until she finishes her sign language degree.
@bondriley2694
@bondriley2694 5 ай бұрын
@@back2sports988 I agree on the kappy ending for Azzi, she's a quality person. She needs to wear a brace on her right leg or stop playing. Didn't know about Amari's college statis, but she is of no help to the team.
@garyroundtree3293
@garyroundtree3293 5 ай бұрын
Hi I agree with you about DeBerry she is very sad 6'6 on the bench eating popcorn 🍿 go to another school.
@bondriley2694
@bondriley2694 5 ай бұрын
@@garyroundtree3293 Someone said she is taking a special course at UConn. Not sure how that plays.
@dlssteward9702
@dlssteward9702 2 ай бұрын
I don't think Patterson will amount to much either. Caroline's Medical reasons should quit BB.
@captain0310
@captain0310 4 ай бұрын
If Allie is good she will play. Why not both Allie and Ashlynn in the starting line up?
@jjmanning8621
@jjmanning8621 Ай бұрын
Sometimes you just got to be a parent
@RobertDeMartin
@RobertDeMartin Ай бұрын
First of all, Nika is not coming back. Secondly, Ashlynn turned out to be the perfect compliment to Paige with a shot that's deadly. And, she now plays defensively the UCONN way. So, if we agree KK will be the point guard and Ashlynn plays mainly the wing, How do Paige, Azzi and Aubrey fit in? Aubrey will play the 4 spot. Her tenacious style of play combining speed and athletic abilities makes her a game changer every time she's on the court. If Azzi plays the 3 spot, WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE PAIGE??????? Let's put Allie Ziebell on the bench. Paige will be EVERYTHING and impossible for the defense to have a steady effective plan to stop her because she will be all over the court. So, the guard spots will be rotated between Paige, KK, Ashlynn and Azzi. PAIGE WILL PLAY BOTH POSITIONS AND EVEN SOME AT THE 3 SPOT. Remember back in the days of Lawrence Taylor, the great NY Giants football player and what the team did with him? The NFL teams all had a basic 4 - 3 defense. Because Lawrence Taylor was so gifted with so many skills, a major change in the defensive deployment was made. The Giants changed to a 3 - 4 defense and Lawrence Taylor became the greatest Linebacker who has ever played the game because he would take over every game. With Paige playing both guard positions and the 'small forward' spot I can see the opposing team's defense calling time out once or twice every game to figure out what to do! So, what do we have so far: Paige, KK, Ashlynn, Azzi, Aubrey, Allie Ziebell = 6. What, more guards!? What about Bettencourt and Samuels? Jana el alfy, what position will she play? Ayanna Patterson, will she be ready to play? Ice Brady? Hmmm. UCONN needs an enforcer around the defensive rim and a threat down low on the offensive end. She also has to play the high post to set picks and well, are we saying that after talking about the fire power the team has it will all go for naught because the team is weak off the boards and doesn't have someone guarding the rim? Scary. But, I think we all have to agree, those two games Ice played in the Big East Tournament showed us something beyond our wildest expectations, especially not only was she effective but played 40 minutes in each game! Forget about the Syracuse game. She was mentally so removed from the game it was horrible to watch. She learned a lesson and I think, with Aaliyah gone, she will be okay. Patterson, if ready is a battler down low and there is certainly room for her. So, let's see, what about Caroline Ducharme? If she is 100% (?) she can play a role in the 3 spot Paige, KK, Ashlynn, Azzi, Aubrey, Ice, Ayanna Patterson (?), Caroline Ducharme (?), + Alliie Ziebell, Q Samuels and Ines Bettencourt = 11. Btw, Q Samuels is an "X" factor. If she works her tail off improving every aspect of her game, she can be a great contributor. But, how much playing time can she get? She may not be happy on the bench. I will summarize by stating two main factors which need to be focused on. The front court depth. Teams, like SC, have very formidable players up front and can crash the boards on both ends and that needs to be contained. The other factor is, what about Azzi? Will she be ready? Not only to shoot but to protect the ball and run the floor. We need to see her play a complete game when the pressure is on. She went into a funk too many times when the pressure was on her and that has to disappear. HOW MANY PLAYERS CAN THEY DRESS FOR EACH GAME? AND, WHO ARE THE PLAYERS I HAVEN'T MENTIONED?
@AG-51_Skeet
@AG-51_Skeet Ай бұрын
@RobertDeMartin "AND, WHO ARE THE PLAYERS I HAVEN'T MENTIONED?" - um, Sarah Stong!
@RobertDeMartin
@RobertDeMartin Ай бұрын
Yes, she is one and all the potential recruits who are being considered. Perhaps someone like Dorka switching to UCONN? @@AG-51_Skeet
@IndianOutlaw1870
@IndianOutlaw1870 4 ай бұрын
Ziebell doesn't have the midrange game (yet) that Shade has.
@jonlyman400
@jonlyman400 5 ай бұрын
look up former/latter
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 5 ай бұрын
Yep U caught me . Well done! Was going to try and edit it out but was too tired and figured / hoped no one would catch it. Grammar star for you!
@jonlyman400
@jonlyman400 5 ай бұрын
@@back2sports988 no worries at least you know people are paying attention
@Lorre4
@Lorre4 4 ай бұрын
No one beats out shade she's been her since idiana basketball she's not not even trying too over the game and she can once she really let's loose she'll over 20.
@TheDisruptiveOne
@TheDisruptiveOne 5 ай бұрын
UConn is literally playing a 4 guard offense right now. And they have zero proven post players next season. Who says Allie needs to beat out shade? If she is then best shooter on the team, she will play even as a freshman. But it’s possible she won’t really contribute until she is a sophomore. And that is probably Geno’s preference to tell you the truth.
@brianmchugh3757
@brianmchugh3757 5 ай бұрын
Why would that be his preference? Bueckers started as a freshman. Azzi, Aaliyah, Nika, all started at various points. Arnold & Shade are now starting. The only reason Ziebell wouldn’t start is because of so many players in front of her at the outset of the season. As far as proven front court players, Brady will have had a season under her belt come next year. Patterson should return as well El Alfy. Nobody is proven as a freshman until they play. With the offensive firepower in the back court next year, UConn doesn’t need their front court to be great, but to be good. Yes, collectively they are unknowns at this point, but we might have a different opinion if El Alfy was healthy this season.
@cbrend22
@cbrend22 Ай бұрын
Paige should fo back to point with Ashkyn at the 2. Azzie and KK and come off the bench to play 2 and 1, respectively. Allie is not athletic enough yet and will struggle on D. She will get minumla time as a the 8th iron 9th on the bench. AG will start with Brady. Best ever? Lol. Paige is so far more skilled and clutch thatn anyone since Maya and DT
@victorlopez2143
@victorlopez2143 4 ай бұрын
I believe that Nika will go back home and play pro ball once she graduates. She won't make any WNBA team. Aaliyah will go pro... Paige will play one more year since she has rarely played 2 yrs of college ball. Hoping that DeBerry , Ines transfer out...DeBerry is useless as a BIG and Ines isn't that good..More of a div2 player..
@HeyCross-ss3wv
@HeyCross-ss3wv Ай бұрын
Okay and what are the lottery numbers?
@PabloEnoc01
@PabloEnoc01 Ай бұрын
Wow, Did you have a Cristal ball?
@shawsheen
@shawsheen 2 ай бұрын
This was a dumb video
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 2 ай бұрын
Thanks
@chucks1673
@chucks1673 Ай бұрын
Should have gone to Iowa ...... who that hell wants to play that boring crap?
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 Ай бұрын
Sarah Strong does!
@mplou699
@mplou699 4 ай бұрын
I was NOT impressed with her overall play in the games over the summer, not at all.
@richardking888
@richardking888 5 ай бұрын
1st, she shoots from her shoulder; easily blocked. Get the 🏀 up!
@back2sports988
@back2sports988 5 ай бұрын
Don't care as long as the ball goes in. She got her shot off in EYBL so think she will be fine.
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