+Fred Cory Agree. Taubes scholarship on the history of calories in/calories out is really eye opening. It is a theory of weight gain without a biochemical basis because the pathway taught in medical schools (i.e., the accepted one) does not fit with CICO but with the pre-CICO school (i.e, that insulin drives obesity).

+Paul Meyer Yeah, Taubes nailed it. It's the energy balance model. It's a vacuous truth and an industrial lie.

+Fred Cory "Further, modern diet and health science could easily be divided in two eras - pre and post Taubes. Let's all start referring to this great divide in our talks and presentations." I'm a Taubes fan and all for him receiving due credit. But there were a lot of people who had realized all along that things weren't right. These people get ignored. It's likely that, down the road, Taubes will be ignored. I think the real "dividing period" is WW2. Taubes points this out quite clearly. The more you look, the more you see WW2 as the defining period where the industrialists reinvented science to suit their interests. Money and politics determined where the research dollars went. It was all self-interest and the power of industry. I'm going to up the ante and say that, since WW2 we are increasingly living in a psychopathic society where an almost perfect "industrial feedback loop" has been created. You better believe that GT is simply going to be dismissed and ignored like every other naysayer who has come down the pike.

Yes, WWll was certainly a milestone into a nightmare for public health. And there were many voices but Taubes (thanks to the quality of his scholarship and the information age) made the walls come tumbling down. Atkins was one of many but Taubes delivered the final was the final blow. Lustig and the other Johnny come latlies would still be in a tenured slumber if GT's thunder didn't wake them.

Sorry for my sloppy txt. I'm pressed for time.

+Audrey Boyle You hear this claim over and over, but it is fairly questionable for a variety of reasons. 1) Some hunter gather cultures eat essentially no carbs. 2) There is evidence going way back, carb source gathering is to produce alcohol (not for food, and alcohol has a totally different metabolic impact). Carb sources spoil quickly anyway and potentially become alcohol anyway.

Kimberley H. A specious and juvenile comment ! Either you have not listened to Dr Noakes's argument or you are one of those preachy vegan!