Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts - USS Montana vs H-44 Super Battleship - Legendary Encounters

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What would happen if the USS Montana, with her heavier broadside, would duke it out with the H-44, armed with 20-inch guns? Let's see what happens.
Disclaimer: the ships will not be entirely historically accurate. This is a game, not a simulator. I have tried building the ships as best I can within the confines of Ultimate Admiral: Dreadnoughts.
Have a great idea for a battle? Battlecruiser Hood vs battleship Bismarck? Battleship Yamato vs battlecruiser Hood? Maybe heavy cruiser Prinz Eugen vs battleship Richelieu? Leave a comment down below!
0:00 Intro
0:35 USS Montana
3:00 H-44 Super battleship
6:10 Battle - round 1
13:40 Battle - round 2
16:53 Battle - round 3
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@ericcheng5496
@ericcheng5496 2 жыл бұрын
Super Yamato(A-150) vs H-44, both have 20 inch guns and would be worthy opponents of each other
@Dcarp7
@Dcarp7 2 жыл бұрын
^ this. Battle of the Titans right here.
@glauberglousger6643
@glauberglousger6643 2 жыл бұрын
Kai-Yamato class would be better
@novagalaxy420
@novagalaxy420 2 жыл бұрын
Warning: loud Boom
@zhuravlevivan4622
@zhuravlevivan4622 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, atomic 510 mm guns
@toddwebb7521
@toddwebb7521 2 жыл бұрын
Tillman 4-2 with 15 18inch guns would probably belong in that league
@Madhuntr
@Madhuntr 2 жыл бұрын
Stealth: the montana might do better at short range. H44: prepare your anus
@leminhquocvinh9486
@leminhquocvinh9486 2 жыл бұрын
That 1st salvo was absolutely disrespect
@dustinfiedler6776
@dustinfiedler6776 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahaha
@Asuroh
@Asuroh 2 жыл бұрын
that feeling when you get uptiered as a tier 8 against a tier 10
@connerwonderly228
@connerwonderly228 2 жыл бұрын
World of warships be like:
@eliangadea1832
@eliangadea1832 2 жыл бұрын
True
@boksininkas_ltukaras5005
@boksininkas_ltukaras5005 2 жыл бұрын
HMS vanguard vs bismarck (both ships are similar enough to be placed in 1V1, hood was ww1 design so it is not the best choice for this type of engagement, also both of these ships where the most advanced ships build by respective nations)
@darrenandcj
@darrenandcj 2 жыл бұрын
What about the 1st of the H series v Vanguard.... Because Vanguard never seen WW2 and H series was the next step to the Germans as Vanguard was meant to be for the RN .
@miksumasterjbl8899
@miksumasterjbl8899 2 жыл бұрын
What about HMS Lion? It was never made, but it was planed.
@Adelia288
@Adelia288 11 ай бұрын
​@@darrenandcjwe would have to take Ulrich Von hutten as shes the first H-class and smallest of them
@glauberglousger6643
@glauberglousger6643 2 жыл бұрын
British R-class vs Pre retrofit IJN superdreadnaughts German plan Z ships vs US experimental designs Agincourt vs Nagato/Arizona (pre retrofit) Fletcher vs Z-34 (any super Z class) Le Fanatasque class Super Destoryers vs German Z class Super Destoryers Nelson vs Bismarck Vanguard vs North Carolina (or Washington) Atlanta vs Graf Spee Gneisenau ( 3x2 15 inch gun version) vs Renown (post modernization, or Hood) Alsace vs H-39 Champagne (World of warships, real variation of a Gascogne class) vs North Carolina (or Washington) Gascogne vs Kongō (or Fusō for a more fair fight) Jean Bart vs Nagato Montana vs Kai-Yamato class (variations on the Yamato class (World of warships Shikishima) Iowa Vs Yamato (Done already) Dreadnought vs Three 1800’s Pre Dreadnoughts (she was supposedly able to take three on as she was so advanced N3-G3 vs A-150 N3-G3 vs H-41, or H-42...
@arandomdudewithhobbies3318
@arandomdudewithhobbies3318 2 жыл бұрын
Atlanta will be annihilated. I also think Agincourt has too thin an armour to fight anything better. Same with Kongo vs Gascogne and prefer a dunkirk for fair play. other than that, I'm fine.
@Nutty31313
@Nutty31313 2 жыл бұрын
A few things I would like to say about the designs you used: The Germans loved their turtleback armour schemes, and H-44 would have been the same. Meanwhile the Americans used a lot of All-or-Nothing. I noticed you had the same citadel design for both ships (citadel 5, I forgot if that's AoN or Turtleback but it's one of those), so instead one should use citadel 4 and the other citadel 5 All the shells used are too heavy, especially the ones used on H-44. The Montana's 16in guns fired shells that were 1200kg compared to 1500kg in your design. Meanwhile the H-44 likely would have fired shells that would have been around 2000kg, compared to 2600kg in your design. This is because the "super-heavy" shells in game are actually way heavier than "super-heavy" shells IRL, and the Germans often used comparably light shells compared to the Americans. This may have had a decent impact on how much damage the H-44 was doing to the Montana, although it seems like H-44 was always going to win. Regardless, great video, can't wait for the next one!
@markam306
@markam306 2 жыл бұрын
Nutty, I noticed also that superheavy shells were not adopted by Germany (USN Only). The Germans were designing for North Sea and North Atlantic operations where visibility is often limited. Higher velocity flatter trajectory rifles were their preference. The web site: Nav Weapons is the best authority I know of.
@commanderalpha722nd
@commanderalpha722nd 2 жыл бұрын
Deutscland Class vs Bretagne Class, it would be really interesting to see the big girl vs a raider that have technology supremacy
@jamesricker3997
@jamesricker3997 2 жыл бұрын
The Montana's armor belt was angled , the effective thickness was around 19 or 20 in
@Stealth17Gaming
@Stealth17Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly I couldn't accurately portray that without adding a ton of displacement
@bayareasavior
@bayareasavior 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stealth17Gaming that's why I hate the construction model for this game. The weight is generalized and not any where near accurate to real weight values.
@Dcarp7
@Dcarp7 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stealth17Gaming That is why it is very hard to build historically accurate and designed because you have a lot of caveats to deal with as well as the constraints of the game.
@weaponizedautism6589
@weaponizedautism6589 2 жыл бұрын
That effective armor would depend on the range. The angle would have only made it 19 or 20 inch effective at close range. not at long range. Where having unangled belt would be an advantage.
@twinkyoctopus
@twinkyoctopus 2 жыл бұрын
@@weaponizedautism6589 depends on which way it's angled, it it's angled away from the ship at the top, then it would be thicker, and vice versa
@7thdivision
@7thdivision 2 жыл бұрын
nice episode, though the outcome was pretty clear with the calibre and massive tonnage difference. btw, on German ships it is not A, B, X and Y turret but A, B, C, D
@SohnFreyjas
@SohnFreyjas 2 жыл бұрын
To be more precise, they were named Anton, Bruno, Cäsar and Dora.
@Stealth17Gaming
@Stealth17Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was pretty clear, but it was a suggestion that got a lot of upvotes, so people clearly wanted to see it anyway.
@ximiraxelo7375
@ximiraxelo7375 2 жыл бұрын
The turrets are called, anton, bruno, cesar and dora
@rishikeshvijay7680
@rishikeshvijay7680 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stealth17Gaming 16 " vs 16" Nelson vs nagato..
@Anonymous8830
@Anonymous8830 2 жыл бұрын
Anton, Bruno, Caesar, Dora
@first-1233
@first-1233 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestions about next battle scenario about iowa class vs sovietsky soyuz the pride of the US navy versus the ship that was dreamed to protect her motherland but never got a chance
@demonman0273
@demonman0273 2 жыл бұрын
A-150 vs the H-44. Or any of the H-class that would better suit that would be fun to see. Or Bismarck and Iowa.
@snakeplissken1754
@snakeplissken1754 2 жыл бұрын
Imo in this game duals are king, you rather go with larger guns and just duals then with smaller guns but trips or even worse quads. As all that matters is hit chance and duals get the most. And usually the decision of an engagement are made early on by who lands the first couple hits, as clearly seen in this case, as the one hit will then suffer from fire, flooding, damaged components or blow up turrets and has an even harder time to hit you back. So i am sort of not surprised by the outcome of this engagement, even so the early taken out turret on the montana was lucky. The consistent damage done by the h44 is just evidence.
@ajmeyers8430
@ajmeyers8430 2 жыл бұрын
I think a couple of things that would have had an impact are the advantage Allied nations had in radar and range finding over the Kriegsmarine, along with the use of 16" super heavy shells vs 20" standard shells.
@antaresmc4407
@antaresmc4407 2 жыл бұрын
Also the damage con and materials were better, with the belt angled, and many other things... Montana was straight up a better design, properly thought out into the late phases up to construction, while H44 was basicly a "hey, what if we take Bismarck and maki him thrice as big in every possible regard?" More of a thought experiment than anything else. A more fair comparison would have been with H39, except it'd have been just as one sided to the other end ;P
@bomber6258
@bomber6258 2 жыл бұрын
@@antaresmc4407 Adding on the 30 second reload rate of the 16 inchers, although it will increase with less experianced crew or in sustained fire
@Cesp43
@Cesp43 Жыл бұрын
Actually the allied nations didn't have any advantage by the time H-44 would of come out due to the Germans having developed very good radar, probably only being worse than the Americans. And rangefinders, again only inferior to the Americans, everything else they were superior, reload as well, German ships had strong reloads due to their designs, infact some estimations out Bismarck at 3 salvos per minute, and their stability was also comparable to the Americans. Atleast that is what I normally hear.
@antius8590
@antius8590 2 жыл бұрын
I'd still love to see a hood vs Bismarck! That'd be a pretty interesting battle to see if the Hood can redeem itself!
@mierzhen
@mierzhen 2 жыл бұрын
Hood with the much needed armor upgrades and ship improvements
@Ridliman
@Ridliman 2 жыл бұрын
Hood and Bicmarck have several things that can't be reproduced in the game. Hood came to the fight very bad maintained, with a boiler working just by repair crews prays and that time equivalent of duct tape while Bismarck has a Turttleback scheme but a weird one since her power lines run in the outside of said citadel, also Big B had a wide bean making her better weapon platform but reducing the ability of her only three shafts to compensate a ruder loss. I think Big B also loss her radar after the first salvo but her stability a better and more modern optics (did I said before that Hood was very bad maintained and in need of a refit?) compensated that. But a thing easy to reproduce in the game is the training, Hood was a training ship so their crew wasn't as trained as a normal Royal Navy ship would be.
@Railfan105.
@Railfan105. 2 жыл бұрын
As the person who made this scenario i must say that this is "a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one." Edit: sooo... This was a tremendously one-sided battle. Oops..
@JtGorski00
@JtGorski00 2 жыл бұрын
😅
@sgxbot
@sgxbot Жыл бұрын
i was about to ask. in what world was that a surprise? xD
@ZarcusConcord
@ZarcusConcord 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the Montana was more of upgraded Iowa and was very close to being built. The h-44 on the other was just a pipe dream. So in other words you have a dream ship vs a near reality ship.
@Culpride
@Culpride 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! That shot of the 20in shell ricochet was quite impressive. Didn't think the Montana could manage that at all judging by the first two battles. Really nice video Cheers
@davidecarucci1073
@davidecarucci1073 2 жыл бұрын
The A-150 class might have a chanche against the H-44 so you should try that
@AlexMueller1982
@AlexMueller1982 2 жыл бұрын
Now THAT was a good Episode. I really enjoyed it. Thx. And you even enabled AI COntrol XD
@at-90ree13
@at-90ree13 2 жыл бұрын
Baltimore vs Mogami!
@glauberglousger6643
@glauberglousger6643 2 жыл бұрын
Mogami in real life performed badly due to things not included in game
@at-90ree13
@at-90ree13 2 жыл бұрын
Well it was bombed into oblivion. It wasn't able to fulfill it's true purpose
@leminhquocvinh9486
@leminhquocvinh9486 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t help that the Japanese had terrible anti air craft weapons
@F34R_Flo
@F34R_Flo 2 жыл бұрын
Azuma (Project B-65) vs. USS Alaska class Cruisers. It will be a rather interesting battle as Project B-65 was developed to fight the Alaska Class Cruisers. But sadly, the war ended before they got a chance to clash
@ro.g.2101
@ro.g.2101 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there, i would love to see the H44 against the Musashi/Yamato!! THX for ur vids!!!
@takablepigon9686
@takablepigon9686 Жыл бұрын
That first round went almost exactly like Bismark vs Hood.
@Mrcookieonyt
@Mrcookieonyt 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see the USS North Carolina face off against the Bismark. Not only is it a pretty decent fight. It almost happened in real life!
@HossBlacksilver
@HossBlacksilver 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, almost happened a second time with their sister ship the Washington and Tirpitz.
@monarch3335
@monarch3335 2 жыл бұрын
1940s US navy battle doctrine dictated battleships would attempt to fight at stupidly long range. German doctrine dictated they would attempt to fight in close quarters. The Montana was never going to succeed in CQB against a ship twice its weight. She would’ve fared better with player control at long range.
@mortlet5180
@mortlet5180 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the Germans' 20" guns and increased deck armour have been even more advantaged at longer ranges?
@monarch3335
@monarch3335 2 жыл бұрын
@@mortlet5180 Yes, the 508mm guns would have better plunging-fire capabilities, but at the same time because they're so massive they would actually maintain a pretty flat arc for quite a while and by the time you get plunging fire you're not hitting anything with naval artillery.
@UnintentionalSubmarine
@UnintentionalSubmarine 2 жыл бұрын
Multiple scenarios: Tegethoff vs Gangut (battle of the triple turret WWI battleships) Admiral Hipper vs HMS Berwick SMS Baden vs HMS Queen Elizabeth Battle of River Plate recreation
@eriklinkogel3458
@eriklinkogel3458 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: HMS Renown vs. Gneisenau and Scharnhorst like in the Action of Lofoten Scharnhorst Class Displacement: 38900 ts (fully equiped) Length: 234,9 m Width: 30 m Crew: 1670 Armament: 9x 28 cm Guns, 12x 15 cm Guns, 14x 10 cm Guns, 16 37 mm Flak, 6x 53 cm Torpedoes Engines: Steamturbines, 160000 HP (119100 kW) -> 31.5 kn Armour: Belt: -351 mm, Bulkheads: -201 mm, Deck: -51 mm, Turrets: -361 mm, Superstructure: -351 mm (Command deck) (Krupp cemented steel) HMS Renown (after refit) Displacement: 37400 ts (fully equpied) Length: 242 m Width. 27,4 m Crew: 1200 Armament: 6x 38,1 cm (15"), 20x 11,4 cm, 24x 40 mm Engines: Steamturbines, 130000 HP (97000 kW) -> 29 kn Armour: Belt: -229 mm, Bulkheads: -102 mm, Deck: -76 mm, Turrets: -280 mm, Superstructure: -178 mm (Krupp cemented steel) German shells tendet to be lighter for higher muzzle velocity, while British shells usually were heavier. Source: Jane's Battleships of the Twentieth Century
@jamesdurrance4077
@jamesdurrance4077 2 жыл бұрын
Something I noticed is that German hulls have the highest resistance in the game and that stat reduces damage. German BBs can take a POUNDING.
@MrKKUT1984
@MrKKUT1984 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's fair to say if indeed Germany would have built the h44 with 20" guns then the US would have attempted to match them or raise the armor level at least. Realistically we probably would have just sent a few carriers to torp her and the British would have had a field day dropping those grand slam bombs on that thing. It would have been much easier to hit than tirpitz for sure
@tmwarthunder1016
@tmwarthunder1016 2 жыл бұрын
The age-old hypothetical stand-off that we all want to watch since the discovery of Montana and Yamato: Yamato in her 1941 configuration Vs Montana as ordered
@itsmezed
@itsmezed 2 жыл бұрын
Before I make a few small points, I wanted to say great job on the content; It's super enjoyable. These points are based on Montana being an upscaled Iowa: 1) She'd have a triple bottom. 2) The rate of fire for each barrel of the triple-gun 16" turrets is 2 rounds/minute. It's nearly double that here. I didn't see the ROF for the 5" guns, but rates as high as 22 rounds/minute have been recorded on those. 3) Given the 18" (fore) and 15.25" (aft) armored bulkheads Montana was specced for, it's safe to say she'd have had reinforced bulkheads.
@Stealth17Gaming
@Stealth17Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. 1. Can't fit within displacement, which is already more than specified 3. Ok
@itsmezed
@itsmezed 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stealth17Gaming I've tried making the Montana in-game as well, and it can't be done -- at least from what I have seen -- while staying within her listed tonnage.
@thecommunistblackhole7717
@thecommunistblackhole7717 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get the Sovetsky Soyuz vs the Bismarck? Bismark should be fairly obvious Heres what I could find on Sovetsky Soyuz Displacement: 59-60,000 tons standard load; 65,000 full Propulsion: Single geared steam turbines Fuel: She ran on oil, so whatever you want Boilers: 6, 3 to each funnel Range: 14,000 km, tho doesnt matter too much Armament: 3 triple 16in in an ABX format 6 dual 6in 6 dual 4in Loaders: Her main guns fired about 2-2.6 shots per minute, so probably about 25 second reload time Turret Traverse: Electrically powered Rangefinding: Stereoscopic V Armor: 16.7 main belt 8.7 fore belt 7.1 aft belt 6.1 main deck 2.6 deck extended 19.5 turret face 9.1 turret top 16.7 conning tower Barbettes: 16.7in thick, so probably barb 2-3 Speed: 28 knots Torp belt: based on what I could find, she had a fairly extensive torp belt, so probably 3-4, but since shes not facing any, it shouldn't matter too much Citadel: She actually used an armored citadel scheme rather than a turtleback scheme Radar: She didn't carry radar, as the soviets hadn't put any effort into developing it until later in the war. Hope thats enough, its all I could find without using wikipedia
@ussmontana9426
@ussmontana9426 2 жыл бұрын
I love your comment about us Americans saying "yeah, yeah, we would just have dive bombed the thing." That is so accurate!!! :D
@coolcreeper9874
@coolcreeper9874 2 жыл бұрын
Well they did produce some 109 aircraft carriers during the war, and only 67 of them were the truck carriers. Soooooo....
@ProjectAtlasmodling
@ProjectAtlasmodling 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing the us was good at doing
@crazywarriorscatfan9061
@crazywarriorscatfan9061 2 жыл бұрын
This will be interesting!
@okanolin70
@okanolin70 2 жыл бұрын
H44 side armor 380mm=14.96 inch Citadel armor 145mm=5.70 inch Horizontal armor: upper deck 60mm=2.36 inch upper armor deck 140mm=5.51 inch lower armor deck 130=5.11 with slopes 150-200 mm=5.90-7.87 inch Splinter deck 20mm=0.78 inch underwater protection: T-bulkheads outside 40mm=1.57 inch T-bulkheads inside 30mm=1.18 inch T protection width not specified (I take the information from H42) 7.65m=301.18 inch source of the information. the book, Schlachtschiffe und Schlachtkreuzer 1905-1970 by Siegfried Breyer. Sorry but I don't think much of the wiki when I'm looking for precise information, because anyone can write nonsense there if they want to and that can lead to falsified data.
@at-90ree13
@at-90ree13 2 жыл бұрын
I think a fairer fight would probably be either Großer Küfurst or Friedreich der Große
@toddwebb7521
@toddwebb7521 2 жыл бұрын
H 39 is the only H class started. H 39 vs Iowa would probably be a decently close match
@emans4seam
@emans4seam 2 жыл бұрын
USS North Carolina vs the Tirpitz?
@Frontline_view_kaiser
@Frontline_view_kaiser 2 жыл бұрын
We definitely need to see the Bismark on this series. Maybe against the Italian battleship Roma?
@nicholaskennedy4590
@nicholaskennedy4590 2 жыл бұрын
Bismarck Montana might be cool but beyond that I think it'd be awesome if you ran a tournament of ships including battleships and battlecruisers
@Xenotric
@Xenotric 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely feels like 16 inch just isnt enough against something that size, wouldn't really expect much from anything that isn't at least 18 inch I guess :( On the other side, 20 inch are almost too big against the montana, almost felt like they were just passing straight through if they didnt hit right.
@astrangehumanbeing888
@astrangehumanbeing888 2 жыл бұрын
I was half correct with the last prediction, never expected a ship as obscure as H-44 though
@kylemason3612
@kylemason3612 2 жыл бұрын
The best ( aka the most overpowered of the different designs) of the U.S. Tillman class super battleships (paper ships) vs. say 3 or 4 battleships of another navy of the same time period would be very interesting.
@slayden2737
@slayden2737 2 жыл бұрын
I still want to see the Admiral Graf Spee against either the Hood or HMS Warrior
@mkevilempire
@mkevilempire 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the maximum number of 20" barrels you can fit on a bb. Add maximum armor possible and lowest weight of everything else, then 1v50 against random ships
@alpha4127
@alpha4127 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a match between All your American and german ships you ever build yourself...
@TheCrankyCow
@TheCrankyCow 2 жыл бұрын
2:40 Steath you won't find anything for conning towers on Montana because much like late war UK battleships they were not going to have them, just splinter/secondary protection. It became clear late war that any main gun shell that hit the conning tower would kill based on shock alone, so having that much weight high in the superstructure was more of an issue then it helped.
@Stealth17Gaming
@Stealth17Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
Fair point. Thanks for clarifying.
@khoipham8303
@khoipham8303 2 жыл бұрын
You got most of the armor scheme correct, but the extended decks are usually only 0.6 to 1.0 inches on most battleships, if not all, since most of them use All-or-Nothing or Turtleback anyways, which all have only a thin deck running along the bow and stern decks to stop cruiser HE shells and splinters.
@Stealth17Gaming
@Stealth17Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of those tough tradeoffs between game survivability and historical accuracy. Had I used the armor as you specified the battle would have been over even faster.
@Hibbidyhai
@Hibbidyhai 2 жыл бұрын
My suggestion for the next 1v1: A battle of battlecruisers. The Lexington-class battlecruiser vs the Amagi-class battlecruiser.
@keighanmarshall9200
@keighanmarshall9200 2 жыл бұрын
USS North Carolina vs Vittorio Veneto roughly equivalent in displacement and armament, from around the same periods and most of the info is on Wikipedia
@WilhelmImperatorRex
@WilhelmImperatorRex 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS MADNESS!!! :D
@jimbosc
@jimbosc 2 жыл бұрын
I know 1 on 1s are the goal - but given the cost and displacement difference - a BB group of 1 Montana and 1 Iowa vs. H-44 might be a heck of a fight.
@utzius8003
@utzius8003 2 жыл бұрын
THis was completely different than I expected. I thought that with her higher volume of fire and fire rate the Montana would just shred the H-44 before her clunky, slow firing 20' could land a solid hit.
@spacer5056
@spacer5056 2 жыл бұрын
I suggest you run an encounter where the Graf Spee decided to break out of Montevideo and encounters the two Leander- class cruisers Ajax and Achilles
@grimmwolf9690
@grimmwolf9690 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, when i presented this match up I thought the engagements wouldn't be so one sided. It truly would have been scary had the germans gotten even one of these things on the open seas.
@eaglestrike6408
@eaglestrike6408 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not, just get torp'ed by a carrier
@grimmwolf9690
@grimmwolf9690 2 жыл бұрын
@@eaglestrike6408 from what i have read on the planning of the H-44 she would have had amazing anti torpedo armor and damage control tech. Plus with its defensive aa capabilities she would have still been a tough nut to crack.
@eaglestrike6408
@eaglestrike6408 2 жыл бұрын
@@grimmwolf9690 strong defences don't count for much when the Royal and US Navies has more ships and planes than the Kriegsmarine probably has canned bratwurst. Vessels get overwhelmed and destroyed, like how Yamato was. Also H-44 never takes into consideration whether the plan would it even work. They hadn't even got close to building it, who knows the kind of mechanical defects it would have.
@HyperScorpio8688
@HyperScorpio8688 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a guy's post on Reddit who made a H-class variant with 4 triple 16 turrets Matching that up against 2 SoDaks sounds kinda fun, I will make sure to translate it to IRP stats for the German one if you are interested!
@jasonhughes4903
@jasonhughes4903 2 жыл бұрын
Either Richelieu vs. any Littorio class bb or Dunkerque vs. Graf Spee. Could be cool to see if the French designs actually countered the ships they were designed in reaction to.
@Energetiker
@Energetiker 2 жыл бұрын
WW2: Richelieu versus Littorio -- Interwar: Nelson vs Tosa -- WW1: Nevada vs Bayern -- Pre-War: Dreadnought vs. South Dakota -- Pre Dreadnought: Mikasa vs. Borodino
@Hellfire8
@Hellfire8 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see any of the Tillman battleships or Maximum battleships Not many great sources on them as they're paper ships. I doubt Tillman II would be possible due to the turret design
@afox7040
@afox7040 2 жыл бұрын
Its like watching the Enterprise fight the Scimitar, might as well be different categories of vessel.
@yoru120
@yoru120 Жыл бұрын
8:42 to 8:44 Captain on the Montana be like: Enemy warship just destroyed our well armored turret, causing lots of fire, and pen our deck armor like there were nothing... Maybe it is a heavy cruiser (CA??) Bruh
@Unknown_bnuy
@Unknown_bnuy 2 жыл бұрын
How about hood vs bismarck: nations' pride rematch?
@skunk0077
@skunk0077 2 жыл бұрын
Bismarck vs Iowa would be cool
@bomber6258
@bomber6258 2 жыл бұрын
I would suggest potentially the Iowa class with the propsoed 18 inch gun configuration (3x2) or just Iowa vs Yamato
@williamcote4208
@williamcote4208 2 жыл бұрын
Just imagine if you could do the H-45… 31,5in guns, 14 times more heavy and about triple the size of Bismarck
@dbush9399
@dbush9399 2 жыл бұрын
USS Indianapolis and Prinz Eugen would be a cool matchup
@rattetanktruth7567
@rattetanktruth7567 Ай бұрын
The Montana is basically a iowa class battleship with 4 main turrets rather then 3
@erickbaltan5813
@erickbaltan5813 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a confrontation between the USS Tillman IV-2 vs the H-44
@big_strategic_floppa9487
@big_strategic_floppa9487 2 жыл бұрын
And now we need Yamato vs H-44)
@foresthamilton2243
@foresthamilton2243 2 жыл бұрын
USS Arizona against the HMS Hood would be interesting considering both exploded in half lmao
@EliteValor1003
@EliteValor1003 2 жыл бұрын
Uss Texas BB-35 Vs. Scharnhorst The Texas was a part of the many convoy escorts for the lend lease act between the U.S and Britain In early WW2 before the U.S entered into WW2 and as well as the wolf pack I believe there was a (someone correct me if im very wrong) almost encounter with the Scharnhorst raiding party. But it be interesting to see the two duke it out
@thewickedwookie3868
@thewickedwookie3868 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to Hood vs. Bismarck.
@ShionWinkler
@ShionWinkler 2 жыл бұрын
The only issue I have is the lack of realistic fire control for the two ships. The Montana would have used the same, if not improved, radar integrated fire control system of the Iowa class, which allowed US ships to fire over the horizon with unbelievable accuracy. The Germans on the other had less then ideal radar, and it was not integrated into fire control in an way, thus the need for them to close to visual range to hit anything. The Montana would have stayed out side the H-44's visual range and just shelled it to death, with the H-44 never having seen who was shooting at it.
@JMon2021
@JMon2021 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that would be cool, is to adjust the ship that lost to a point they can either win, or put up a better fight, kind of a "what would this ship need to win this fight" kind of thing. This was pretty one sided and sad to see the Montana get blasted so thoroughly.
@codeykronemeyer5994
@codeykronemeyer5994 2 жыл бұрын
How about Amagi vs Bismarck? Seems like a pretty balanced fight,and if the Bismarck gets smoked you could give it Tirpitz's torpedoes and that would probably even it out
@Davidletter3
@Davidletter3 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a fletcher class dd vs a shimakaze or akatsuki class dd, your choice
@fslolo6622
@fslolo6622 Жыл бұрын
I love the new update we’re you can configure the internal armor as well and change barrel length and caliber
@HossBlacksilver
@HossBlacksilver 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, the Alaska large cruiser versus the Scharnhorst battlecruiser, basically two light battleships facing off against one another.
@recreahistoria3034
@recreahistoria3034 2 жыл бұрын
Graff Spee vs HMS Exeter(or HMS Repulse/Renown), Battlecruisers brawl
@mikemaskell458
@mikemaskell458 Жыл бұрын
H44 is an awesome ship. U should try to put 4 quad 20 inch gun turrets instead of double barrel.
@F16enthusiast
@F16enthusiast Жыл бұрын
I would like to see a fight between Iowa and Montana vs H-44 and Bismarck
@uteriel282
@uteriel282 3 ай бұрын
regardless of reality or in game its physically impossible to have enough armor to protect a ship against 450mm+ guns. youd need well over 1000mm of armor all around the ship which would put the weight well over 200000 tonns while hitting the structural limit of steel.
@frankxu2321
@frankxu2321 2 жыл бұрын
This game now really love twin gun turret. In long range engage nothing else could have that kind of accuracy. By the time other ships sail into belt penetrate range, they are already crippled.
@ProjectAtlasmodling
@ProjectAtlasmodling 2 жыл бұрын
Twins and triples It hates quads and singles
@Vector-ht6zq
@Vector-ht6zq 2 жыл бұрын
I think to make The ship look more like their real live counter part is to go whit the visual astetics.
@markswang8987
@markswang8987 2 жыл бұрын
Fellows I get a question if I want to creat the Colorado and the Arizona which hull should I use?
@iyirisidi
@iyirisidi 2 жыл бұрын
Scharnhorst vs. Hood!
@lordsherifftakari4127
@lordsherifftakari4127 Ай бұрын
with the updates and Dreadnought improvement Mod, these legends matches might be worth a Rematch given the Turtleback damage resistance buff has been corrected.
@xefino8160
@xefino8160 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if the Amagi class battle cruiser is worse in Admiral Dreadnought, and why not making a battle between the Amagi design and the Bismarck, it could be interesting (and if the Amagi design can't be creating, maybe replacing it by the Nagato, and make a battle against the Bismarck)
@lewiswild3310
@lewiswild3310 2 жыл бұрын
what I think would be a cool series on this would be a like world Cup knock out stages, get like 6 ships put them into groups the respective groups battle it out the the best out of the groups battle it out in a final show down. call it clash of the titan's.
@Stealth17Gaming
@Stealth17Gaming 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to do a tournament with subscriber sent in ships. That's not doable atm though. Shelving it till possible.
@nordstern2664
@nordstern2664 2 жыл бұрын
that was clear. The Montana was designed... like the Iowa-class... for the Panama-channel. So it has limited size and with this lenght, broad and weight and so also limited caliber and armor. The german design has no limits because there were no... especially ressources ;)
@bruiser0159
@bruiser0159 Жыл бұрын
It was 17” ( plus change ) Conning Tower on the Iowa’s and a Montana is basically a heavily armed Iowa..🤷🏻‍♂️👍
@Atlasworkinprogress
@Atlasworkinprogress 2 жыл бұрын
Warspite Vs Texas. The two most decorated Battleships of their respective navies from the Dreadnought era. Probably a mis-match with the game going to Warspite, but much closer than this.
@ProjectAtlasmodling
@ProjectAtlasmodling 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea admiral Graff spee vs Baltimore. (You will need to make spee 16.5k tons to fit everything. Also for the advanced armored cruiser hull if you select side guns for the 150mm you can put them on the sides like normal secondary guns.) I just wanna see this because you never touch the advanced armored cruiser in your videos from what I've seen. There really fun meme hulls that bully other ships. Especially with the 283's (in game you need to use the 278 but that's game limitations) Also there's no shame in using the wrong engine to get the funnel capacity needed to operate the ship at speed till they fix diesel engines and other propulsion that don't use boilers
@turambar620
@turambar620 2 жыл бұрын
Book "Schlachtschiffe-Schlachtkreuzer-1905-1970 Siegfried Beyer" used for less then 10 and new for 50 by amazon and you never have to say "i dint found something" ;-)
@ShockwaveTheLogical
@ShockwaveTheLogical 2 жыл бұрын
HMS Queen Elizabeth vs Bismarck. Both have 8 15 inch guns and solid armour (12+ inches i think)
@toddwebb7521
@toddwebb7521 2 жыл бұрын
Something that would actually be a similar match for Montana would be a French Alsace class. 12 15" guns in 3 quads
@lamwen03
@lamwen03 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised that the Main Gun Accuracy was so much lower for Montana.
@robro2214
@robro2214 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see Richleu Vs. Littorio
@eryelshest7503
@eryelshest7503 2 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: IJN Yamato & USS Iowa in separate divisions vs. H44
@idv1328
@idv1328 2 жыл бұрын
There we go…..Montana Class!
@idv1328
@idv1328 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh… we’ll never mind 😢
@leminhquocvinh9486
@leminhquocvinh9486 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t be too sad, one was laid down and the other is fantasy
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