Ultra RARE 1960's Ducati Scooter. Will It Run After 30 Years?

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10 ай бұрын

I buy a 1960's Ducati Brio 100 that has been sitting for over 30 years. Will it run? #Ducati, #Rare,
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@davebarrowcliffe1289 10 ай бұрын

Joe. Ive been into Italian 2 Strokes from the 50's and 60's for 40 years and I've never seen or even heard of one of these before. Thats one HELL of a find on the British scooter scene. Left hand gear change/clutch was standard on Italian scooters (Lambretta, Vespa etc) at the time. This scooter belongs in a museum. Seriously. Fantastic find that needs expert restoration in my opinion.

@GoldenCroc 10 ай бұрын

Hear hear.

@fetus2280 10 ай бұрын

ditto...and im jealous.

@exsoulagent 10 ай бұрын

There’s a well known British scooterist that has a fully restored Ducati scooter

@wileecoyote5749 7 ай бұрын

junk

@exsoulagent 7 ай бұрын

@@wileecoyote5749priceless junk at that

@upperroomtoo 10 ай бұрын

This needs to be a total restoration. Soda blast the body panels and repaint it.

@user-nt7pt3dw9m 10 ай бұрын

Wtf is a soda blast

@aarongrabowski3775 10 ай бұрын

For what? It won’t be worth it.

@user-fv6lx6ku1d 10 ай бұрын

Soda blasting would be the correct approach, sandblasting would take too much material off and leave unwanted marks on the metal.

@dieterich6533 10 ай бұрын

I agree in getting a soda blaster to free up rust when getting these things loose. You might want to brush some acid on to loosen crusty parts. Use gloves everyone… do it outside if possible and have water ready nearby.

@glennfryer1539 10 ай бұрын

Well worth a restoration...

@alittlebitofeverything5090 10 ай бұрын

Might be worth it to call Ducati directly. You never know they might know where a piston and rings are sitting on a shelf or the jug or both!! Someone in Italy has to have one!

@stevenswonger4145 10 ай бұрын

They might buy it back as a showroom piece for a cool mill!

@alittlebitofeverything5090 10 ай бұрын

@@stevenswonger4145 Very true!

@briggaskin 10 ай бұрын

@alittlebitofeverything5090 although very rare, you can find restored versions in europe and some parts on ebay etc

@billdyke9745 10 ай бұрын

The twist grip gear change was standard on scooters. No missing cover on the side of the engine, it's fan cooled. That's where the air comes out. Lots of motorcycle manufacturers had a stab at making scooters, but they didn't do well. They all looked clumpy compared to Lambrettas and Vespas. A rarity, though. Well worth a restoration. Go on, Joe, you can do it... 🇬🇧👍

@kirb943 10 ай бұрын

Thought it was a Lambretta LD at first glance in the back of the truck last vid.

@billdyke9745 10 ай бұрын

@@kirb943 Definite similarities. A bit more angular. The Italians understood scooters, the British and Americans made things that looked like suitcases with wheels attached. Which only adds to their rarity since nobody bought the bloody things...

@kirb943 10 ай бұрын

@@billdyke9745well said, angular is the right word. Ive a series 3 Li, and it really looks like they just deleted any and all curves

@davebarrowcliffe1289 10 ай бұрын

That coil is identical to a Lambretta coil. Why? Because Ducati made the ignition system for Lambretta! Make sure the ht lead has plenty of copper inner showing before it's plugged into the coil. That flywheel needs an extractor. It looks like the same size as a Lambretta extractor. They are easily available. Do NOT jam a screwdriver in between the fan blades. They are VERY brittle and will snap off in a heartbeat.

@davebarrowcliffe1289 10 ай бұрын

Carburettor leak is just a fibre washer. Very cheap to replace. Dellorto are brilliant for spare parts.

@vancemacd6315 10 ай бұрын

That satisfying snap when the screw breaks free from an old engine is music to my ears.

@Thor555555 10 ай бұрын

There are alot of 52mm Pistonrings in 1,2mm and 1,5mm for chainsaws like Stihl and Husquarna. maybe one of them fit the shape of the "anti rotation pin". Also i found 4 stroke rings for CB50 and CY50 75ccm cylinders which may could made matching with a dremel. Such Rings are here round about 2€ each so think it´s worth a try to make some of them fit in. The Stihl 046 have the 1,2mm and the 064 or the husquarna 272 have the 1,5mm. one of them have to fit.

@mikemoore9757 10 ай бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if there isn' a chainsaw or lawn mower engine that uses rings that are so close that you could file the ring gap to fit the diameter and if you have to, you could slightly widen the ring grooves on the piston with a lathe. By the way, when shifting from one gear to the next, you have to pull the clutch lever in, shift and then let back out. That's a rare little scooter and very worthy of a restoration.

@jozsef6453 10 ай бұрын

You could use some random rings for the same or a bit bigger diameter and just file the ends to fit by the pins. Just make sure the thiccness is correct.

@user-fv6lx6ku1d 10 ай бұрын

I could see sporadic sparks around 20:46 which was frustrating as a viewer 😂 I have a theory around the missing ring. The gentleman who sold it knows a thing or two and likely took the top end off and tried to take the rings off, breaking the bottom ring in the process. Realized he can’t get a replacement so he put it back together and put it up for sale.

@chasleask8533 10 ай бұрын

Sounds about right . The low mileage and excess wear is probably due to the speedo being unconnected .

@bradley7723 10 ай бұрын

Someone was already there. Even broken rings don't leave the ring groove.

@ryandonato8563 10 ай бұрын

I felt the same way I literally seen it spark in the plug gap I'm like what do you mean there's no spark lol and yeah I agree with your thoughts on the missing ring

@wisecampmotorcycles8258 10 ай бұрын

Joe, you shouldn't ever pound out a piston pin, Buy a tool for it, only cost a few bucks. The right tools will do the right job.

@peteb2304 10 ай бұрын

An online seller called dlastore sells rings for the Ducati Cadet 100 engine which looks to be the same as yours. About $16 for a set.

@GoldenCroc 10 ай бұрын

Commenting for visibility.

@Patshes 10 ай бұрын

Restore it to the full bro. None of those around anymore!🆒😎✌️! Never even knew it existed.

@joelatkinson2080 10 ай бұрын

You need to call Wiseco, and any other piston maker you can think of, and see if they something that will fit. There are a lot of 100cc 2-strokes that have been made and one of them might match up. Even if they don't have just the rings they might have a piston and ring combo that will work. Good luck.

@ChapSinclair 10 ай бұрын

Mopeds have pedals. Nice scooter.

@jeffdayman8183 10 ай бұрын

You might be able to call Mahle and give them the piston and cylinder dimensions (piston OD, ring groove dias, groove widths, cylinder bore) and ask if they have rings to fit. Years ago I did that for many oddball engines by calling Hastings Piston Ring, but I think that firm was absorbed by Mahle or another company. They used to have rings for just about any engine. When inquiring, I would not mention what the rings are for, some companies in my area just don't support anything for Italian machines or other long obsolete European machines, no idea why.

@user-fv6lx6ku1d 10 ай бұрын

My thoughts too, you’ll need to spec the piston fully and call around, someone will have something that fits.

@Brad26843 10 ай бұрын

My thoughts order custom ring

@enwri 10 ай бұрын

Mahle also have a catalogue of plain bearing shells of all dimensions to search through. 90s Yamaha TDM twins could have used old diesel VW triple big ends in undersize steps. Unfortunately discontinued though. No luck..

@wrenchg3954 10 ай бұрын

its not a moped. moped's are equiped with secondary pedal power option. this is a motor scooter

@2vintage 10 ай бұрын

As stated in the title

@destruct61 10 ай бұрын

I love this thing! Cant wait to see it up and running!

@scottnathanphoto 10 ай бұрын

Now this is an interesting project. Hope you'll do more.

@jgsmith1624 10 ай бұрын

Love to see a full resto of this. Really cool looking scooter.

@rexmeanor2561 10 ай бұрын

In the mid 60’s my dad bought a Ducati trail sport. Had that same engine with same fan shroud on it. It was a 90cc with the 3 speed twist shift on it. Tube frame red color and knobby tires. Looked better than my Suzuki hillbilly 80. Hard starting and started slipping out of gear. Good luck Rx

@nunocsebastiao 2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this video. Have a brio 100 and just got it running. In mine compression was good but the issue was that the ignition points contact was bent and would not cut so that it had to spark at the plug. Your videos on the brio were very very useful. Thank you.

@jazx7194 10 ай бұрын

What a interesting find. I look forward to the conclusion and so now am a subscriber. To all of those comments that are positive and informative.. you guys are really great! The others.. it is ok to not comment. Have a great day.

@Big_boom90 10 ай бұрын

I'm sure you can find some machinists on yt you can reach out to and have them make one to spec. Hope to see pt.2! 🙏

@thebigguy8306 10 ай бұрын

Phenomenal, oh the memories. Neighbors had an early 60s (1963) Sears Allstate (Vespa) scooter/moped. 2-stroke, 60cc, think 4hp. Faster riding lawnmowers

@jmudd5449 10 ай бұрын

Jesus look at all that dirt that fell in the crank case.

@jakeslouw3416 10 ай бұрын

Yes, Joe just refuses to clean anything before he starts working on it. Drives me crazy.

@user-fi3fx5my2s 10 ай бұрын

I restored an old Cushman once, what a nightmare. Thought it was never gonna run again, then it did. Best of luck on that old beast. 👍

@steveh7823 10 ай бұрын

Not 272 miles. She's been around the clock, many times. Mileage or Km only goes up to 10k. I guess a previous owner tried to fix bad piston rattle, removed one of the rings to match a spare and put the cylinder back together without one ring. The Ducati name makes this amazing.

@StewsChannel 9 ай бұрын

Yup, I was thinking the same thing. Likely been around at least a couple of times, that kind of wear would be impossible with only 272 miles on it.

@rhiantaylor3446 10 ай бұрын

I see little point changing the piston since it is not worn. Just look for rings - several suggestions already in comments.

@treysadventures6927 10 ай бұрын

honestly best part of my day when this man posts

@2vintage 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@jamiebouchard9862 10 ай бұрын

Agreed

@jayaustin3096 10 ай бұрын

Ya I can't wait to get home from work, take a shower grab a couple beers and watch Joe's videos. Make my day. My favorite channel by far.

@oneway_sting 10 ай бұрын

love watching this content man. I own a tuned yamaha aerox and I come across this channel when you bought that 3 wheeler that was old school. I hope you come across a honda cub ez90, that would be legedary :D

@ralphbarker7791 10 ай бұрын

Looks like DLA engine parts have Caber compression pistons rings 52 x 1.5 mm for $6.44. They have many Ducati kits too.

@wesleypulkka7447 10 ай бұрын

2V, back in the day we used to remove the bottom ring to make 2 strokes rev higher! It worked as long as we changed rings frequently. It was a go-cart cheat. Some high performance pistons came with a single ring from factory.

@barbaraneville5036 10 ай бұрын

Did this myself with a Lambretta also polished and enlarged the ports & took out crankshaft and filled the balance hole with cork which was glued in with Araldite (superglue) raised the crancase compression ratio then skimmed and polished the Ali head

@paulhamilton4756 10 ай бұрын

Great project! Keep the videos coming. Maybe Wiseco would be able to match something up. That would come with rings. Or, ask Vinnie!!

@bradleynevills4444 10 ай бұрын

The piston looks great just fine some rings for that size

@Sageofhalo 10 ай бұрын

Another great video thanks Joe

@paul5683 9 ай бұрын

Great video. Thanks for the tutorial on getting one of these running again. Now I just have to convince my neighbor to sell me her old barn find yamaha. Worst part is that the bike is under years of lawn furniture, wood and other trash.

@chriswebb4162 10 ай бұрын

Never even heard of this model. A very exciting project. Please keep us informed of your progress. I wish it was mine 😊

@shmitt8307 10 ай бұрын

Had no idea they made scooter this is why I lover ur account

@jdmae92 10 ай бұрын

I have one of these, they are definitely rare but not worth much. They are a loose copy of a Lambretta Cento so some parts will work (I got a fuel petcock and it was very close but a bit off where the rod attaches). I also got an entire cable kit from the Lambretta and most were close enough to work but some were the wrong length and I just made new ones to fit. The engine was also used in the Ducati 100 Scrambler and Mountaineer.

@UOO303T 10 ай бұрын

Love yr channel such excellent content thanx

@chasleask8533 10 ай бұрын

A scooter ! (mopeds have pedals ) . Very nice . The Ducati is very like the Bianchi Orsetto .

@passenger6735 10 ай бұрын

Maybe check the bore and stroke of other 100cc machines like the yamaha yg1. You might strike it lucky with the correct width and file the gap to make a good fit in the bore. Also check out the 200cc twins from that era (RD200 for instance).

@botshotz1231 10 ай бұрын

anyone else notice that he aint screwing the spark plug wire in its only resting in there its the end of a screw inside that the wire needs to be twisted on to

@josephhamilton5185 10 ай бұрын

Could hammering a wrist pin out like that result in damaging the crank?

@DoNE021 10 ай бұрын

I would never do that.

@carltreurnich8482 10 ай бұрын

Damn right

@jamiebouchard9862 10 ай бұрын

Not necessarily. Anyone who’s removed one from a bicycle engine or dirt bike has done it the exact same way. Big thing is putting some buffer between the piston and stud threads. I’ve had thread marks (unknown to me) wear out the nikisil lining on a mk2 piaggio cylinder. Being careful will help tremendously, but without removing the engine, it’s really the only way. The piston will his the cylinder studs before the rod try’s spreading the lobes apart. In most all high performance builds, the pin will come out much much easier

@josephhamilton5185 10 ай бұрын

@@jamiebouchard9862 I’ve removed several and never had to do it that way lmao

@jamiebouchard9862 10 ай бұрын

@@josephhamilton5185 yea. Course u haven’t 👌👌

@2vintageDeamonFan 10 ай бұрын

I’m actually shocked that thing even popped over like that

@kenjohnson5498 10 ай бұрын

Use a metal mesh tea ball for all your small parts in the cleaner it saves from having to fish them out if they spill from the bowl

@jennyloughry896 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely love your channel

@greathornedowl3644 10 ай бұрын

BRAVO, this will be a great learning project as there is much to do.

@ChrisLee-UK 9 ай бұрын

That's an incredibly clean 2 stroke engine, maybe not have been run on the correct oil/petrol mixture. May also explain why everything came undone so easy, someone has already been in there and maybe removed the worn rign in the hopes of finding a replacement. Ring wise, a company here in the UK sell 49.8mm rings in pairs, Part Number VE10116-4 They're for the Vespa 100 etc

@Draerer 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing this with us :} .

@MDHenry4 10 ай бұрын

That thing is so cool and your work is great looks like the posts are on it

@nathanross6960 10 ай бұрын

I've been unfortunate enough to get many old and rare things running again. Always a challenge but find the radius & circumference and you should be able to make a ring from something newer work albeit with some possible ring grinding to get the gap. Honda Trail 50&90’s have been good for some of my weird and rare foreign jobs.

@ocavant 10 ай бұрын

Lol. I was wondering when you were going to break out the drill motor😂. I was expecting that Kickstarter snap . Ducati scooter.😮

@andrewmaw3345 10 ай бұрын

Brother. You need to get that Hammer screwdriver. I use mine ALL the time for this crap. You hit the end and it turns the screw with force but because you're hitting it in. It doesnt strip. LOVE it

@billdyke9745 10 ай бұрын

By the way, there's a Swedish guy out there, (Yesterday's Machinery), who has a video showing him making new piston rings... (Apologies for multiple comments, KZfaq is not letting me edit)... 😠

@perustc9158 10 ай бұрын

Del'Orto Carbs were used on a number of early BMW boxer engines. Been a while so I don't know if anyone still does. As far as the rings and piston you could try similar engine specs in the Sachs engine lineup. I owned a BUNCH of old DKW Leading Link MX100's and was privy to some discussions during a few shop talks that these might be very close. The Sachs motors were SORELY under powered so they normally didn't get much abuse. Comparatively speaking of course. The 9 units I had got beat to crap but you couldn't tell because they just didn't have the oomph to tear anything up. 2 tech's I knew took the Leading Link front ends off of them and installed them on a few CZ's and Greeves Griffon that lunched it's own version. Good luck. That thing needs love!

@timburnett6729 10 ай бұрын

Another great job

@paddyoconnor1825 10 ай бұрын

Your perseverance is amazing 👏 love your videos. . I'm sure when its running you could make good money on that . Massive respect from the UK 🇬🇧

@carltreurnich8482 10 ай бұрын

There we go ......".some play side to side ...cant believe the rod bearing is good " 😂😂😂I can't either 😂

@dougaranda6187 10 ай бұрын

What a fantastic winter project that would make for someone.

@eugenesbackyardrepair4593 10 ай бұрын

I did same thing with choke cable on an 86 yamaha moped. I heated side of choke tube with pencil torch. Then used a flathead screw driver to carefully turn choke barrel to remove it. Also you had flywheel exposed so I use a corded drill on the flywheel nut to turn over engine. One for higher rpm on low compression and two so I don't break kick start or pull start. Other then that good video

@yvestressens3990 10 ай бұрын

salut a toi,super vidéo,courage tu va trouvé le piston ,et donc vive la suite

@kaduseus593 10 ай бұрын

Used to own a 1960's iso milano diva, also a bin man find, used to bunny hop it, sold it to a guy that fully restored it, parts were hard to find, even 35 years ago. Biggest problem with it was we broke the kickstart shaft, looked like it was poor quality post war steel, had air bubbles in it, so maybe don't go trying to kickstart it like that, was waiting for it snap off. :) Good luck with restoring it or at least get it running.

@Wisconsin-boys 10 ай бұрын

1st one here!! Love you joe 🤟🏻 keep it up!

@andrewmaw3345 10 ай бұрын

You should also get an assistant one of these days. If I lived closer id love to help out on these builds. Would make your life so much easier. But great build regardless! ONE last maybe...Make some friends with a CNC machine. Make a new piston and rings. but hey...Im just a guy who loves cars and watches other people build them after breaking my back! So thanks for giving someone like me the opportunity to still see.

@robertkwit8506 10 ай бұрын

.52mm pistons are used on those gas bicycle kits. And they also run a dual ring non-window piston..

@tomatito2784 10 ай бұрын

Cool thing it is Real italian vintage Hope you got it working again

@2Truth2you 10 ай бұрын

Nice find. Pistin rings for some other 100cc two strokes should fit.

@starpuss 10 ай бұрын

*Never seen one of them before!!* I use to work for a Vintage motorcycle company and thought i seen all the 1960's Ducati bikes!

@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan 10 ай бұрын

I wish you luck in this restoration. I am a fan of scooters and bikes that are petal start equipped.

@louisjohnsonjr.4934 10 ай бұрын

Id try rings from a Honda 50 or something like that to see how it works. Long as the size is right and ring gap is close it should work because finding parts for this will be a nightmare

@user-wb5mm8vg6b 10 ай бұрын

If there is no chamfer on cylinder ports it can act like a shear chew up rings and spit out exhaust port. Check inside muffler for shrapnel. CHEERS!

@sled_neckx9972 10 ай бұрын

Hey as far as the rings go, try googling 52mm piston rings. You can get a set of 2 for like $5 and use the original piston. If they don't fit you are only out by $5.

@patbriggsmbr 10 ай бұрын

Looking forward to the renovation 👍

@johnbruland3861 10 ай бұрын

That opening on the left side of the cylinder is upposed to be open. It`s there to let the hot air out. The engine is very similar to the Sachs engines in old Messerschmitt three wheelers.

@wurthmannd024 10 ай бұрын

The screwdriver and glove ASMR never gets old 😁

@Hanky_Bannist8r 10 ай бұрын

That thing is definitely special enough to restore. Hone and mic that cylinder and see if WiseCo will make you a piston and rings for it.

@mrutherford8590 10 ай бұрын

I have a ton of new old Suzuki pistons but they are at my other house in nc. I’m in Texas right now. You would have to measure the piston in a couple of places. The pin hole and from the top down to the pin hole. And total length.

@paulbudford 10 ай бұрын

There must be a piston to fit this from another application. Going to be a lot of research Joe.

@mrchilled85 10 ай бұрын

the Yamaha ag100 , dx100 yb100 all use a 52mm std bore piston so may work with this and i cant wait to see this project more

@alittlebitofeverything5090 10 ай бұрын

I would check the diameter of the piston with a micrometer, check the skirt length and wrist pin inside diameter. Call a reputable company and see if they have something. If not there has to be a company that can mill one for you. Have a good day.

@martykath4427 10 ай бұрын

I'd be in touch with the piston manufacturers with the relevant details. I've put different pistons in kart engines before. it's amazing what's out there.

@Shadowban69 10 ай бұрын

Another project Joe...You should do an update video on the status of some of the projects.

@somedude0808 10 ай бұрын

Get the piston dimensions and try to find one. I'm into all motorsports, recently I got into motorized bicycles. To go fast, we do hybrid engines, where we take a Chinese bicycle engine kit for the bottom end case, then put race scooter cylinders,minarelli or piaggio/ aprillia am6 or chainsaw cylinders. You could try to contact rdm performance or smolik performance. They do performance parts for these motorized bicycles and do machine work, they could probably make you a piston. The engine looks quite similar to what we use.

@ayedee6681 10 ай бұрын

I'm thinking, next time you work on any of these old barn find rescues, just do the carbs first, get that out of the way dude! move that from last to first, then look for spark :) .... I'm like you, as soon as I see spark, i just want to put gas in and run!

@c0munguyforcaz 10 ай бұрын

What a rare bike! Never seen one of those!

@NB-nu5vn 7 ай бұрын

Del Orto carbs were on some of the Aermacchi Sprints you have worked on in past videos, you may still be able to find parts for that....

@danielcayengame1042 10 ай бұрын

Dude you should have a paint brush to clean the parts after your done with the ultrasonic cleaner

@noneofyourbusiness1683 10 ай бұрын

You shouldn’t have any problem using a different piston. I think someone had it apart and removed that ring. If it fell off it would have scratched up the cylinder.

@mazdarx7887 10 ай бұрын

That may be a problem. Diameter is no problem, but dome curve, wrist pin size, wrist pin center to top of dome, wrist pin center to skirt, skirt cutouts. As for the wiper ring, it was taken out in the past for some unknown reason. Only other was to go missing is to shatter and fly out the exhaust, if that is the case, there may be bits still in the exhaust system, but the cyl should show scratches

@vbtbmrt4394 10 ай бұрын

Could bore out to a size close to size now, with a piston you can find. Find some rings and you can cut them to size. Maybe manufacturer for got the ring and it only ran till top ring wore out. Could explain why low miles ?

@cr4bee 10 ай бұрын

To my understanding a Chinese pit bike 110cc is a 52.4mm bore, I’m sure you could use the rings from one of those, with a little modification to make it work. Hella availability and super cheap