Unboxing and Reviewing Narex Cryogenic Chisels

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Narex Bevel Edge Cryogenic Chisels
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Is spending the extra on cryogenically treated tools such as these Narex Cryogenic Bevel Edge chisels really worthwhile? Renowned guitar maker, artisan and craftsman, Gary Rizzolo looks at a set of 5 and lets us know the answer pretty much straight away.
And what is cryogenic treatment?
A quality set of 5 popular chisel sizes protected in a well crafted wooden case.
Sizes included: 6mm, 10mm, 13mm, 19mm, 25mm.
These chisels represent the highest quality of manufacturing processes combining unique materials, heat treatment and machining in order to produce the finest tool for woodworkers.
Right after initial hardening, cryogenic treatment cools the steel down to very low temperatures by using liquid nitrogen to as low as −190 °C. This completes transformation of austenite, which increases both the hardness and toughness of the steel.
Every chisel is marked by the trademark RICHTER EXTRA.
Specifications
Blade
forged from high quality Cr-V steel
cryogenically treated and tempered to at least 62 HRc
fine ground and polished
ultra-thin sides for reaching into tight spaces
Handle
ash hardwood
sanded and polished
solid stainless steel ferrule
leather washer

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@matousoutrata 4 жыл бұрын

Narex was probably the only tools maker in my country during the "dark ages" of communism. I am so happy they made it through and you like their products. I do too now :)

@timbeconaus 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Matous. That is a very interesting story. And it is good to know that they are being rewarded for their hard work. They make excellent products - especially for the price.

@matousoutrata 4 жыл бұрын

It is even better, we are all rewarded by their work. I recently bought mortise chisels from Narex. And frankly, it is not easy to get them in the country of their origin, easiest way is eBay from England! They almost exclusively send abroad. A set of six for the price of single Lie Nielsen one. (I sure still do crave to have at least one piece of LN art work in my arsenal ;) Thank you for uplifting my patriotism, enjoy them and have a very good time. And thanks for your channel :) Matouš

@wabio 4 жыл бұрын

Bought some and have been using them the past couple weeks. Amazing chisels! They hold their edge extremely well!

@xray1292 4 жыл бұрын

I like your enthusiasm, I think it would be the same as you in front of a quality tool, very good video, Greetings from Chile

@labrat7357 2 жыл бұрын

I bought a few (3/8, 1/2 and 3/4) and found the highly polished backs hid the fact that the chisels are not flat and the nice fine chisel shoulders were rounded during the polishing process.And yes all my stones were lapped flat on a large DMT diamond plate, before I started.. I like the chisels but would prefer they came with a (more honest) finely ground finish not the polished finish that I see as being a way to hide deficiencies in the manufacture. If I want a reflecting surface I t will appear at around 8 or 10 K grit. Next I am going to remove the handle finish and put a couple of flats an the handle to stop them rolling around. I would love to see a 5/8 size in the range. All the best

@dr.christianrapp 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that honest assessment. Not all that shines is gold. I read somewhere else they need some work for the back. But much less than most. I just ordered two. In Germany, one is roughly 30 Euro. Will be interested to see how they compare to my German MHG ones.

@storylineamerica4108 3 жыл бұрын

Love the Narex Richter chisels!

@HxMxT 4 жыл бұрын

Narex chisels are awesome, got another kit of thiers - more simplest - water treated. They are always provide perfect cutting quality, and holds it's sharpness for long.

@RONNIEJNZN 3 жыл бұрын

Ordered the 6 piece this morning. Have many narex sets. 2 sets of the hooped standard, 1 set sharpened to 17⁰ for soft wood. These seem comparable to a Sorby registered mortice chisels with the ash and leather.

@green_building 3 жыл бұрын

i trust Mr Albert Einstein 🙏😊 I don't care if this video sponsored by Narex or no

@Bill.L.Carroll 4 жыл бұрын

That is an awesome testimony, and backing it up on making the purchase yourself. 👍🏽 Legend has it, that each box is carefully and magnificently crafted by the master wood-crafter with the very set of chisels in each individual box! 😉 And if you believe that, I have one used, great condition Sydney Harbour Bridge for sale... 🤣🤣🤣

@kuffyswoodwork 4 жыл бұрын

How much for the bridge? 😂

@Bill.L.Carroll 4 жыл бұрын

@@kuffyswoodwork For you, mate, a cool mil, petty cash! 🤣🤣🤣

@kuffyswoodwork 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bill.L.Carroll Seems a bit steep. The bloody thing is a rust bucket! I'll pass.

@Bill.L.Carroll 4 жыл бұрын

@@kuffyswoodwork Hmmppphhh, Fine, half price, and that's only because Paul Hogan painted it! 🤔😂😂😂

@pollypocket8424 4 жыл бұрын

@@Bill.L.Carroll Bet he didn't paint to much of it, it takes 30,000 litres of paint for one coat 😱😱, that about as much as it takes to fill his plastic surgery face 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@greghumble7306 2 жыл бұрын

Already have several sets of pretty expensive chisels. These being £140 I’d say that these are the cheaper end of the good useable chisels I’ll probably get a set of these just to see how they are. They look good. The whole chisel design looks very organic and comfortable

@CNile-se9xw 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful & low maintenance, that's a marriage made in heaven. I can't believe that in Australia, something that is so premium can be sold at such a bargain price. I'm ordering a set right now. 👍🇦🇺 Done. 👍

@timbeconaus 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. We are sure you will love these chisels. Gary does! Keep in touch. We'd love to hear your experience with them.

@Workshopheaven 4 жыл бұрын

Narex asked me to do a blind test of the steel for these chisels a couple of years ago, you can see for yourself how good an edge it takes, but it will hold that edge for... absolutely... flippin'... ages.....! I nearly fell off my chair when they told me it was a CrV. The design is spot on too, the handles just melt into your hand, the edges are barely there, the backs are optically flat - too flat if anything, but hey what a great problem to have!

@timbeconaus 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Workshop Heaven! What a great rap for these chisels. Thanks for letting us know!

@wabio 4 жыл бұрын

About how tall are the flat sides? 1mm? Maybe 2mm? I have a set of Stanley sweethearts, which work great, but the sides are much too tall for dovetails.

@Workshopheaven 4 жыл бұрын

@@wabio More like half a mm : )

@Workshopheaven 4 жыл бұрын

@@DavesRabbitHole Flat has to have a tolerance (ask any engineer or machinist or just type 'engineering tolerance' into the search box onn here). In the case of an accurate chisel back it's a unilateral tolerance of between 0 and 3 thou concave in the length, so that as you hone the underside of the edge repeatedly, it self jigs and you very gradually work back towards zero. A year or so later it might need hollowing again, but on a 'perfectly' flat chisel the first job is to hollow it, so that your honing can't create a bump.

@shonuffisthemaster 3 жыл бұрын

these are nice chisels, and i really think they have done a great job for the price, i will likely be buying a set. however - chrom vanadium is nothing special at all, its what any halfway decent chisel and some low end chisels are made of. the marples to the stanleys to even wrenches and sockets are all chrome vanadium. yes a good ht with cryo does help alot, and tests have shown these chisels have very good edge retention, generally the steel is less important than the heat treat. high end chisels are steels like O-1, A-2, hitachi blue or white, PM-V11, etc. also the finish has almost nothing to do with the steel. yes, some steels will finish a bit differently, but generally speaking any decent chisel with a decent heat treat will be able to take the same finish as any other decent chisel. the only exceptions really are the highly wear resistant steels that are more difficult to finish, and im not aware of these typically being used in chisels

@Gold-oj8do 3 жыл бұрын

I'd like to buy a set of these. Does anyone know how they are for getting into the tight corners of dovetails? Thank You Gold.

@timbeconaus 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Gold. Thanks for the question. Gary's work as a guitar maker is in itself very intricate. So his love for these chisels would certainly include their ability in these kinds of endeavours.

@bramdeman5820 4 жыл бұрын

Sir, How would these compare to Erik Anton Berg chisels, Veritas PMV11 or the Lie-Nielsen brand chisels? I'd be keen to know!

@wabio 4 жыл бұрын

Me too. I would really like to see a matchup against PMV-11.

@Workshopheaven 4 жыл бұрын

Link to probably the most comprehensive independent chisel test I've seen.... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nr90f7SQzN_ImJc.html

@mikestewart505 3 жыл бұрын

Rob Cosman does a comparison vs. Wood River that is less flattening, though not especially critical. I can't disagree with anything he said, but my experience has been a lot closer to what James Wright had to say about them. They aren't perfectly perfect, but dang they're nice!

@mohdalisyed Жыл бұрын

Rob Cosman trashes anything he doesn't sell himself. And whatever he sells, he "cosmanises" it and charges a premium. So, remember, it's just KZfaq. People will say stuff which won't be accurate.

@mikestewart505 Жыл бұрын

@@mohdalisyed I think that's a little unfair. Cosman is pretty open about his connection with Wood River/ Woodcraft, but I think he sells them because he thinks they're good, and in my experience, they are. He had his reasons for favoring the Wood River chisels in his review, and they were reasonable. I think James Wright's ' testing was more reflective of the quality of the steel, which is clearly important, but not all-important. I really like the ergonomics of the Richters, but I also have some WR butt chisels that are nice for some jobs. (Sorry--I got confused about which review this referred to. Wood by Wright really liked the Narex Richters, too.)

@ionut5316 3 жыл бұрын

Out of curiosity, are they flat? Narex never made flat chisels.

@justinsane332 3 жыл бұрын

i biught 12 of them, they really werent bad except for the 1.5 and 2 inch. the rest were a breeze to flatten. i heard these are very flat out of the box...i just ordered 1 in .5 and will update you in a ciuple weeks when i get it.