Unboxing Chinese "Surplus" 7.62x51mm Ammo

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4 жыл бұрын

In this video we have an unboxing of some 1996 manufacture Chinese made 7.62x51mm. This ammo is roughly an equivalent to the US M80 7.62 round.
A video showing some of this being fired:
• Chinese Norinco "CJ 96...

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@sambaumberger6879 3 жыл бұрын

My buddy purchased one of these a few years ago and found a cigarette butt inside, we got a good chuckle outta that.

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Apparently there is no time for a smoke break if you work in a Chinese ammo plant, smoke while you work and stuff the butts in with the ammo.

@darylbauer5184 3 жыл бұрын

I have 3k rounds I bought at a gun show 1996 for $89 a thousand late one sunday before the show closed "dealer didn't want to lug it back to his truck " . Someday I'll get around to testing some of it out , or things being what they are in this country today I might get to test it sooner than I want to . Great video !!!

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Great investment on your part. I hope you never "need" to use it...

@norpino7704 3 жыл бұрын

I wish we got all this Chinese stuff in the states now days

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

There is not much of it up here anymore at the moment, I think the Chinese have cut back on exporting ammo and guns.

@shadowcastre 4 жыл бұрын

Surplus ammo definitely makes for some affordable shooting. It is possible and is a simple process to convert steel surplus cases from Berdan to boxer primer. You can then get from 1 to 3 loadings from them by annealing. The conversion actually works quite well. Thanks for the video...

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

I have lots of brass case boxer primed cases in 7.62x51 for reloading so I can't see myself doing such a conversion unless just for fun. I have reloaded steel case 7.62x39, 7.62x54R and 7.62x51using Berdan primers, it works fine if you have the correct size and strength of primer, but as there is no shortage of brass in those calibers I generally stick to that.

@shadowcastre 4 жыл бұрын

@@314299 I agree... as long as there's no shortage of brass cases why bother. However.... It is good to know that the conversion can be done easily if there ever is a shortage! :-)

@nrainfidelforlife 4 жыл бұрын

I've always liked the copper wash look. It feels silky to the touch.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

It seems superior to me to the laquer coated stuff, does not leave crap behind in the chamber like the lacquer does.

@humansvd3269 3 жыл бұрын

this stuff shoots great in NDM86 .308.

@SidneyBroadshead 3 жыл бұрын

01:24 Crate: Item: 7.62x51MM (7.62mm NATO) Quantity: 1000 rounds (2 Spam Cans, 500 rounds each) Dimensions: 47cm x 34cm x 15cm Volume: 0.02397 m3 (0.846 cu. ft.) Gross Weight: 29 kg. (63.93 lbs.) 00:47 Spam Can markings *7.62x51mm / BALL* (7.62mm NATO FMJ) *20-96-71* (Lot 20, Year: 1996, Factory 71) *500 ROUNDS* (4 x 125-round paper packets)

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

@ragnarragnarsson3128 4 жыл бұрын

A-1 sarcasm there sir👏...nice

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

There is so much opportunity for sarcasm these days it's hard to keep it all in.

@werunguns 4 жыл бұрын

Man that’s cool!

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it was nice of my buddy to let me open one can up for the video.

@regsparkes6507 4 жыл бұрын

Always interesting to see these cans being opened,...not much fun though when that steel strip peels off sideways rendering that key pretty well useless. I learned all about that a couple of times while opening 7.62x39 ammo. for my good o;l'SKS-45.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

This one cooperated pretty well. I think the worst sealed cans I have ever opened were Czech 7.62x39 with the soldered on top with the "pull straps", those were a royal pain to open.

@regsparkes6507 4 жыл бұрын

@@314299 I can well imagine that frustration!

@donwyoming1936 10 ай бұрын

Aww memories. I used to blow through a tin every other weekend. Even functioned in my M1A Super Match rifles that were notoriously finicky.

@314299 9 ай бұрын

This particular lot was really good stuff, it shot 100% and was far more accurate than expected.

@DMX-PAT 3 жыл бұрын

That wood crate alone is worth the price of the ammo!

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Expensive crate.

@Rick_Steel Жыл бұрын

I've fallen into a "surplus ammo unboxing videos" holes and I think this is the first one where the can opener actually worked.

@314299 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the openers dont have a great track record, at least on video. They probably worked better for armies where the users had more practice with them.

@Rick_Steel Жыл бұрын

@@314299 I figured army guys would just run over the tin with their tanks to open it 😆

@robdegraw1568 3 жыл бұрын

Thought that was great mentioning Steve 1989

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Steve is a point of reference for any opening of old packaged stuff.

@ScreamingReelsTV 4 жыл бұрын

Beat me to the punch with the hiss joke. Ive seen a few cans of this stuff around here and there. Used to be sold with Norinco M14s. I think your estimate of wildly varying velocities and pressures is likely correct. This wasn't commercial ammo, it was meant to be dropped off in some war zone.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

The last "C J 96" stuff I cronographed was doing 2791 fps and pressure was fine, no issues. But there was some "C J 95" around that was way over pressure, the bolt was sticky to open and velocity was averaging 2895 with a high velocity of 2940 fps. It was dangerous to shoot, I even had a case split. My buddy has been shooting ammo from the other can out of this crate and he has had no problems.

@DeweiJiang 5 ай бұрын

@@314299 What is the standard deviation like for CJ 96? Do you think it can achieve 1-2 moa in a CZ600?

@johanh2496 2 ай бұрын

Did you ever do a followup on this video? Im curious about this ammo and what it was like

@314299 2 ай бұрын

I did a video shooting some of it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ra6ZmqmYtLiZZKM.html

@johanh2496 2 ай бұрын

@@314299 thank you! Have you been shooting any 22lr lately?

@KRN762 4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to know what it chronographs at.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

Another lot of "C J 96" head stamped ammo did an average of 2791 fps out of an Israeli Kar98k rifle. I will get around to trying some of this lot over a chronograph sometime.

@starbuckroad 4 жыл бұрын

I'm still waiting for a Ranger Gord impression.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

I only do that one while I'm at work.

@user-hn2gy4ug9x 4 жыл бұрын

Why you didn`t check with a magnet? It is not difficult and would be clear steel or not.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

I've done that previously to this Chinese ammo so I already know it is steel. Also I did this video outside so did not have a magnet nearby.

@azshooter348 4 жыл бұрын

Forget that silly key, it's for amateurs. Spam can ammo opens easier by just using an angle grinder to grind down the folded seam on the can lid. The lid can be lifted off, and then put back into place afterward for further ammo storage.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

I'm not that desperate for a storage container that does not positively close back up to go to such lengths. My buddy is packing all this stuff in US type 30 or 50 cal ammo cans when I give it back to him.

@azshooter348 4 жыл бұрын

Of course you're not desperate, but my comments were intended for mere mortals watching this video. It may be information of use to THEM. Just sayin' for a friend.

@jennermadarang3995 2 жыл бұрын

Hey guys! May i know the grains of cj 96 because i have a lot of it but idont know its grains.

@314299 2 жыл бұрын

The bullets are in the 147 to 148 grain range of weights.

@Liberty2358 Жыл бұрын

Just curious, why is the Chinese make NATO standard ammo? I thought they were using 7.62 x 39 for their AKs.

@314299 Жыл бұрын

That's a good question. The Chinese make 7.62x51mm for the same reason that they also make 5.56mm ammo - they sell it to countries who use those calibers. Therefore the ammo in the video is not surplus from the Chinese military. It might be surplus from a third party country who bought it from China, or a contract overrun or could just be a commercial lot of ammo identical to their military export stuff. As far as 7.62x39 it is no longer a front line Chinese caliber, their current front line round is the 5.8x42mm used in various domestic designed weapons.

@jimmaxwell1094 4 жыл бұрын

No hiss, nice.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

I was expecting a hiss, disappointing really.

@miketreen7403 4 жыл бұрын

Christmas in July!!

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

With no annoying wrapping paper to dispose of.

@levinlevinallday 3 жыл бұрын

Funny I ran across this video. yesterday I was going through my ammo cans and found some chinese made 7.62x51 that was RG counterfeit ammo. looks just like yours how it's made. I've been hesitating to try it out. dont know if it's good or bad. I may run some through my saiga 308.

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

The stuff in the video has been surprisingly accurate (for what it is) and 100% reliable and also non-corrosive. If you have some of the fake RG ammo made by the Chinese it is almost certainly corrosive, and performance may not be the best from what I have heard. If I were you I would pull apart some rounds and measure the quantity of powder, if the charge weights are on the small side (40 grains or less) I would get nervous about shooting it. I would also recommend that you shoot some over a chronograph to see if it's at a normal speed. The Chinese can make good ammo, but they can make garbage as well. Best of luck.

@mclaclan 3 жыл бұрын

@ Or just spray some windex down the barrel when you're done shooting

@mclaclan 3 жыл бұрын

@ That's unfortunate what has happened to you up in Canada. I have a SA58 FAL that's new so I don't mind getting her a bit dirty.

@timothytietz9194 3 жыл бұрын

All the RG I shot was corrosive. All the 2 digit ammo(factory 61 in the 90's dates) was no corrosive. Fake RG was packed like this, my 61-90 was in boxes. CJ is China Jin-An, a "commercial" entity. I shot it out of a wreck of a 1912 chilean rebarrel and it shot ok, both varieties, tho I had two blown primers in the 61 stuff. And I think all 150 ish grain steel jacket-lead core.

@stonerman15 2 жыл бұрын

Do u have any extra 7.62-39?

@314299 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, one round.

@biggrig6816 Жыл бұрын

Got some 1970 Chinese serplus 762.39 . Have shot 100ish rounds and all great so far ! Got 1100 rounds for 560$ Cad after taxes

@314299 Жыл бұрын

I've not yet had any bad Chinese 7.62x39, even the old stuff is still reliable. It's too bad the price of the stuff has gone up so much.

@flyingninja1234 3 жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain that the standard service round in China, is a 5.8mm round.

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Yes the 5.8 is the newest Chinese front line round, but there are a lot of older weapons still around for the 7.62x39, I suspect that there are many times more 7.62 weapons in their stockpile than there are the newer 5.8's.

@SidneyBroadshead Жыл бұрын

This is export ammo for customers armed with 7.62x51mm NATO weapons.

@stevet5790 2 жыл бұрын

which gun Chinese use 762*51 ? that is NATO round , right ?

@314299 2 жыл бұрын

None that I'm aware of, but they do load it for other countries use and those countries do surplus it. Since it's Chinese made and surplus I feel justified in the video description. Those folks of a pedantic disposition may not agree, but it's my video, not theirs.

@jeffreynye3019 4 жыл бұрын

Is it safe to shot in a 308 bolt action?

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

My buddy has been shooting ammo out of the other can from this crate in a Remington 700 with no issues, he says it's fairly accurate stuff considering what it is.

@samuelharshbarger4934 3 жыл бұрын

.308 is a hotter load than 7.62x51 NATO, so it's always safe to shoot either through a .308, however you don't want to shoot a .308 through a 7.62x51

@Je3perscre3pers 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I can buy some of that ammo.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

Supplies of this has been dried up for quite some time.

@sigmaguy4741 Жыл бұрын

How many emmo have in one packet sir

@314299 Жыл бұрын

500 rounds in the can in four bundles of 125 rounds.

@SidneyBroadshead Жыл бұрын

8:10 Headstamp 10 o'clock: C 2 o'clock: J 6 o'clock: 96 (year: 1996) Manufacturer: NORINCO Exporter (PRC): _China Jing'an Import & Export_ (Beijing, Dongcheng Province, China).

@314299 Жыл бұрын

I think "China Sports" was just the marketing entity for many manufactures of Chinese ammo sold to foreign markets.

@SidneyBroadshead Жыл бұрын

@@314299 Several numbered arsenals manufactured the civilian ammo (usually remaindered lots of components and powder). China Sports was the commercial entity but _China Jing'an_ owned and operated it. (It just imports and sells sporting goods in the US nowadays.) NORINCO is the corporation that controls _China Jing'an_ .

@SidneyBroadshead 3 жыл бұрын

0:35 Tin Lid *7.62 x 51* = 7.62x51mm NATO *20-96-71* = Lot 20, Year 1996, Factory 71 *BALL* = Full Metal Jacket lead core bullet with copper-washed steel case. *500 ROUNDS* 500 per can, 1000 per crate. Ammo bulk packed in large packets (each 125 rounds; 4 per can: 500 rounds). I think these cans are usually for machinegun belts but are repurposed for bulk sales of civilian ammo. They also sold 5.56mm NATO (55-grain Ball M193 / .223 Remington Metal Case copy) in 560-round cans (28 x 20-round cartons) / 1120 round crates. 01:15 Crate Handle (Powder Data) *CJ1 28-96-20* = CJ is the headstamp for China Sports, China's sport ammunition brand. CJ 128, year 1996, Lot 20.

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info.

@alex-vk1ts 3 жыл бұрын

How much did you pay for that?

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing. Like I said in the video the ammo is not mine, it belongs to a friend. I don't know what he paid but I think the stuff sold for about $450 a case back when it it was on the market.

@SidneyBroadshead 3 жыл бұрын

0:35 *ISPM15 stamp on crate* International Plant Protection Convention (IPPC) Nation: CN (China) Wood Treatment: MB (Methyl-Bromide) by contractor Z-1

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

I am always amazed at the stuff viewers know. Thanks for that additional info.

@hailsland 4 жыл бұрын

Disappointed it wasn't sat onto a tray.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

Need a big tray. And then someone would expect me to eat some of it ....

@pens8766 3 жыл бұрын

@@314299 that is definitely not healthy to eat.

@Eli_G454 3 жыл бұрын

Why were the Chinese making 7.62x51? Is this from Taiwan?

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

They don't use 7.62x51mm, but they do make it and export it to other countries who do use it.

@armija 3 жыл бұрын

@@314299 Then its not surplus, its just ammo made in China...

@314299 Жыл бұрын

@@armija How do you know it's not surplus form the country that bought it from the Chinese?

@sevany6581 3 жыл бұрын

That's amazing if we can get China made Nato ammo, that gonna be a biiiig relief for US ammo market. :)

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah....

@norpino7704 3 жыл бұрын

Sadly all Chinese firearms and ammunition except some shotguns are band from importation since the 90’s

@-SakuraKyoto 10 ай бұрын

5:16〜　I like the sound of paper😚💤💯

@314299 10 ай бұрын

As they say "Whatever floats your boat".

@corvoattano4777 Жыл бұрын

Wait why were the Chinese even making 762x51?

@314299 Жыл бұрын

I expect they were making it for export, just like they make 5.56x45/.223 and 9x19mm.

@monzaonza7650 Жыл бұрын

What are the downsides of chinese surplus ammo?

@hoanghiepngo8645 Жыл бұрын

They work just fine actually, we practiced with hundred thousands of these both 7.62x39 and 7.62x54R for 1 platoon of 50 and only a few hundreds of those were duds. And they were from 78 - 80s

@monzaonza7650 Жыл бұрын

@@hoanghiepngo8645 oh so they're perfectly safe, thanks for the insight

@314299 Жыл бұрын

Downsides are: Most Chinese surplus is corrosive primed: Quality can be variable - some lots can be quite good for accuracy while others can be just fair. The stuff the Chinese loaded for their own use is generally good, the stuff they loaded for other countries use can be a bit more suspect.

@oggyoliver3651 Жыл бұрын

@@hoanghiepngo8645 m xàm l nữa

@juliendurand723 3 жыл бұрын

I cut my hand with a spam can of 7.62x54r. Definately not opening another one without gloves.

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Decent gloves are a good idea.

@ditto1958 4 жыл бұрын

No hiss? Steve would still taste it anyway.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

I'll leave the ammo tasting to the professionals.

@louregietalboresvillaruz9281 3 күн бұрын

Like Canned Hereford Brazilian Corned beef

@314299 3 күн бұрын

I doubt it tastes the same as Hereford Corned beef.

@louregietalboresvillaruz9281 3 күн бұрын

That's Right

@General.Longstreet 4 жыл бұрын

The Chinese might regret selling all this ammo if the shtf and we end up at war with them

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

Oh, I think they have a few billion rounds set aside for such occasions.

@bennyjetsaroundtheworld9047 3 жыл бұрын

And I dont think theyl be shooting rounds made in 96 if it goes down like that

@caryr.7089 3 жыл бұрын

Lol “Nice Hiss”.....I see what you did there.

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

:-)

@ratdaddy7774 Жыл бұрын

Norinco jialing or Chongqing arsenal if memory serves

@314299 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info.

@Jerry-Parker 4 жыл бұрын

Be bad it wasn't Lake City.

@slowhand1198 4 жыл бұрын

Several decades back, the Chinese actually put Korean war vintage Lake City head stamps on some .30 carbine ammo they sent here. Not sure if they really knew what it meant at the time.

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

At least it's not the horribly corrosive Czech surplus, that stuff was evil.

@MrOlgrumpy Жыл бұрын

There's no way I would use chineese surplus rounds

@314299 Жыл бұрын

If you are an American your government wont allow this to be imported into your country so it's not something that's even an option for you.

@jacobothezoo5515 4 жыл бұрын

you have the gun

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

I have what gun? One in 7.62x51? If so then yes.

@Yukon12gauge00buck 4 жыл бұрын

Lets see how many views! Covid free atleast LOL

@314299 4 жыл бұрын

924 so far. Views on most stuff is down, generally the way things go in summer.

@hamletthaus3046 3 жыл бұрын

What strange diseases?? Uh all of them?

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

Ever heard of sarcasm?

@kamikaze253 2 жыл бұрын

I think those are corrosive.

@314299 2 жыл бұрын

No they are not. I have fired them in a non-chrome lined barrel and there was no rust after letting the gun sit uncleaned for several days.

@yourdeal2408 3 жыл бұрын

Chinese surplus do not have english text on it

@314299 3 жыл бұрын

It does when it's Chinese made ammo meant for export to another country.

@yourdeal2408 3 жыл бұрын

@@314299 surplus ammo is not produced for export

@TheAsianOfChaos 2 жыл бұрын

@@yourdeal2408 it is re packaged for it though....

@stevenmerlock9971 2 жыл бұрын

First Chinese imported ammo got banned then Russian ammo…… Next they banned all 🧐

@314299 2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure someone in Poland, Romania, Hungary, etc, will start producing steel case ammo for export to the USA.