Uncancelled History with Douglas Murray | EP. 10 Theodore Roosevelt

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Join Douglas Murray as he delves into the life of Theodore Roosevelt with special guest Bill McClay. From TR's tumultuous upbringing to his rise in politics and eventual presidency, they explore the man behind the legend. Can Teddy Roosevelt escape being cancelled?
Uncancelled History re-evaluates events, people, and ideas that have otherwise been cancelled from the past. Learn more at www.uncancelledhistory.com
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@cerdic6586 Жыл бұрын

Wow. This man even looks like Theodore Roosevelt

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

My favorite TR! Theodorus Rex!!

@SGTDuckButter Жыл бұрын

Wow. You need to get to a eye doctor.

@drstrangelove4998 Жыл бұрын

Spitting image!

@user-ti5rb1mx5x 10 ай бұрын

Nice of Teddy to come back from the dead to do this interview

@lavarbukowski578 Жыл бұрын

One of my most cherished possessions is a letter from Roosevelt to my Great grandfather, Ellis Parker Butler. Roosevelt was inviting him to watch him speak at Schutzen Park in NYC .

@Gobearfoot_ 2 ай бұрын

That’s way 🆒

@gruweldaad Жыл бұрын

Watching the professor talk to Douglas about how amazing it was that Roosevelt had a naval history of the War of 1812 published at the age of 23 when Douglas himself wrote the authoritative biography of Lord Alfred Douglas when he was 19. 😂

@davidheylen2452 Жыл бұрын

Somehow, so0meway, please don't let this series end (even if the underlying theme changes). This kind of content is exactly what the hope of mass media was supposed to be about. These interviews have been so deep, surprising and sophisticated, yet entertaining and fun to watch. There is something being captured in this format that you can't get anywhere else: I think videos produced at this level of quality have become a serious addition and alternative to the written word. Douglas Murray is doing genuinely significant work here. It's too important to let it fade into the KZfaq abyss.

@NoNameNo.5 Жыл бұрын

Thanks Bob

@georgesoros6415 11 ай бұрын

Isn't Doug the best interviewer you've seen in half a century?

@ediepepe2215 10 ай бұрын

Douglas let’s the person being interviewed , talk❤

@HighDefinitionVideo 8 ай бұрын

💯 totally digging these. The play in and out music is hilarious

@TyrellGlen 5 ай бұрын

These episodes are fantastic. I’m a law student with an MPhil in intellectual history and this series has been pure gold. PLEASE make a Season 2!

@debbiestyer453 8 ай бұрын

Douglas is excellent at getting the author back on track.

@shoofly529 Жыл бұрын

My favorite story was when TR sent the US Navy, the Great White Fleet to sail around the world on a mission to display US naval power. However, Congress only authorized funding for the mission to sail half-way. TR had the ships sail half-way around the world then told Congress to get them back!

@hevonperseensuti Жыл бұрын

By the looks of his guest, Douglas Murray could've been interviewing Teddy himself. Anyway, excellent series, I've listened thrue all parts and I'm still mesmerized.

@khalidalali186 Жыл бұрын

I think the lousy great grandson is asking for the removal of the statue, because he knows he will never be anywhere near, the greatness of his illustrious ancestor.

@Rearmostbean Жыл бұрын

Theodore was a near mythic man His adventure through the Amazon with his son was fascinating. Almost an Indiana Jones story

@helenmalinowski4482 Жыл бұрын

Please keep these coming! Thank you Douglas, it gives me inner strength to know that not all the world has gone crazy and that we can indeed be so proud of our past.

@drstrangelove4998 8 ай бұрын

Yes indeed, a fascinating man.

@jjroseknows777 Жыл бұрын

Douglas, I am biting the bullet and devoting my brain to learning what you are, so expertly, trying to teach us. It's so easy to follow the emotions of hot topics - where this is a slow piecing together the quilt of history, our history, that creates a better understanding of what's going on these days. Thank you!

@briannicholas2757 Жыл бұрын

Mr. Murray, thank you for these presentations and discussions. You bring legitimate debate back into our country. I have always admire Theodore Roosevelt, and am grateful that you have presented this academic look at him.

@LorBell Жыл бұрын

I am subscribed but only recently and have just binge-watched the entire series so do hope it will continue for as long as you are able. I thank you kindly for uploading these master works and still wish (hope) that the USA will return History to the classrooms so that we never again have to experience the insanity that is today. Again, thank you for offering these marvelous discussions to the masses. If I was still teaching, these would be required views.

@njgrandma3519 Жыл бұрын

I am enjoying the conversation with Mr. McClay very much. I loved the statue in front of the American History Museum, and did not find it degrading to the two figures walking alongside TR. Yes, it was the product of another age, but why can't we be more tolerant?

@JM-vp8zc 9 ай бұрын

“Repressive Tolerance,” Herbert Marcuse

@carmenmccauley585 3 ай бұрын

The intolerant demand we be more tolerant of their intolerance.

@briankim7419 3 ай бұрын

Can't believe TR actually participated this interview!

@shoofly529 Жыл бұрын

When TR was the NYPD Police Commissioner, he had their revolvers upgraded from .32 caliber to the bigger .38 Special round for better stopping power. That was the authorized ammo until the mid 1990's when the job switched over to 9mm. Also the desk TR used as Commissioner has been used by every other PC since & is still the desk of the current PC.

@chiefslinginbeef3641 9 ай бұрын

He would vomit if he saw NYC today.

@mitchyoung93 7 ай бұрын

Plus he inspired Tom Sellack.

@TTFN55 6 ай бұрын

@@mitchyoung93 - I even wondered if Chief Reagan's desk in Blue Bloods was a Chief TR's desk replica.

@nothingcangowrongnow Жыл бұрын

What a great channel. Very high quality content, and in need of many more subscribers.

@Me-sv4kv Жыл бұрын

Excellent series. Please Sir, some more.

@wagz72 Жыл бұрын

Douglas needs to get his friends to promote these for him. How are the view counts so low?

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

I'm going to share this - even my liberal children. They know how much I love TR.

@AtomikGround Жыл бұрын

It's quite a new series. Don't worry, it will catch on.

@Colin_Izer1111 Жыл бұрын

you can't trust YT view counts, esp if it is on certain subject matter.

@peteratkinson922 Жыл бұрын

Air pollution

@kraken138 Жыл бұрын

That's because it is OVER. When the already debunked, racist, nonsensible 1619 Project is given a Pulitzer Prize and a TV series, how could discussions like this have any larger success?

@Sabotage_Labs Жыл бұрын

Douglas is a good egg. I must admit, I am a bit of an anglophile. Being that half of my ancestory is primarily Welch (the other half being Hungarian which makes me Welhung! Sadly, that the only way I can claim as much 😕😉) I do love how bloody proper English Douglas is, especially at the beginning of these episodes. Makes me think of some BBC show in the 70s. All erodite and serious. With that said...with a wee bit of teasing to my cousins across the pond...I do appreciate Douglas' insights and views. As we would say here in the states... He's a pretty smart dude.😉 I very much enjoy this series.

@denniscannon769 11 ай бұрын

Bill McClay is yet another superb choice for this series. McClay is more of a lecturer than an interviewee: "And may I add another point..."/ "And here I would like to mention that..." Wow! Douglas Murray hardly has to work at all! McClay is so well-spoken on Roosevelt that it is hard to imagine how Murray could have possibly selected a better expert guest. It seems like there must have been a team of academicians to comb the entire nation for the best of the best. I concur with the predominnt opinion of the other audience members: this series really shines as a true classic. Perhaps this ultra-high level of quality content can set a new standard of education for secondary and tertiary students, as well as adult learners. If this series could be used in an interactive context, it might possibly be rendered into a university-level class, similar to the video classes of Dr. Jordan Peterson.

@jojoco120 11 ай бұрын

❤ Loved the true history of Theodore Roosevelt!

@karolynpawlowska2516 27 күн бұрын

I am loving these historical documentaries of historical figures who have influenced the world, and individuals through the course of time. I am learning so much. Fabulous. Thank you, Douglas Murray.

@benjaminperez969 Жыл бұрын

"Over-sentimentality, over-softness, in fact [wishy-]washiness & mushiness are the great dangers of this age & of this people. Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail." -Theodore Roosevelt to psychologist G. Stanley Hall, 1899

@katrindeforth7963 2 ай бұрын

I absolutely enjoy the episodes of “Uncancelled History”. Another great one. Thank you. 👍🙏

@garbonomics Жыл бұрын

Another great one! Loved it. I have a great admiration for Teddy and I’m glad he brought up his serious faults. Especially his progressive idealism for which he was sadly serious proponent. Yet the ability to put him into context was brilliant.

@IAmACanadian 10 ай бұрын

I love how the Douglas is having an interview about Theodore Roosevelt with someone who kind of looks like him.

@pwjackson888 Жыл бұрын

This was immensely helpful to my understanding of the big picture!!!

@martinham1409 4 ай бұрын

TR would have hated the idea of the idea of nato. He made that perfectly Lear to his daughter Alice.

@catherinejudd7993 3 ай бұрын

6. Teddy’s true innovation was his US wilderness conservation-truly visionary.

@xx05jurtos 3 күн бұрын

I am convinced that this is not Teddy speaking for himself 😂

@jamesboekbinder3967 Жыл бұрын

Keep 'em coming!

@gogogo39 4 ай бұрын

The guest adds a nice humorous touch

@Mr.MikeBarksdale 5 ай бұрын

My great grandfather met him in 1912 on his whistle stop tour of America in Hugo, Colorado. This was a dusty cow town with maybe 500 ranchers and cowboys, all tougher than boot leather. TR stopped and had lunch with them and made them all feel like they mattered. There is a reason my middle name is Thomas. Every male in our family has had a T or an R ever since.

@edwinbenson4892 Жыл бұрын

I find Theodore Roosevelt’s personality very appealing, but it is hard for me to escape the conclusion that he was the beginning of the progressive trend that landed us where we are now.

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

Because he'd been surrounded by bright, intelligent women when TR was at the 'bully pulpit,' he wanted the GOP to sponsor womens' sufferage. This was dubbed as progressive (and it was) especially when Woodrow Wilson took up the phraseology and turned it into something else which is actually coming into full bloom now.

@lindadechiazza2924 Жыл бұрын

Anyone who takes a bullet in the torso and decides to give a long over an hour speech before going to hospital, Is Certainly Alright with me

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

@@lindadechiazza2924 - Same here. My father was the same type of man and I appreciate those who are!

@natlmidnightstar Жыл бұрын

You can't blame him for the clown show that we live in today. Breaking up Standard Oil isn't even in the same universe as what we see these days. As a "doer", I don't believe TR would be down with wokeness.

@S.J.L Жыл бұрын

He wasn't that far out. His "New Nationalism" was pretty close to what many Republicans today are for.

@StereoSpace Жыл бұрын

I'm really enjoying these.

@gersgrafra5547 4 ай бұрын

Excellent! More please!

@NBAballToWalls 9 ай бұрын

His contributions to establishing the National Parks is one the greatest achievements

@chiefslinginbeef3641 9 ай бұрын

"Lincoln venerated the constitution......" LoL lmao even.

@user-jk8nx9hf9g 8 ай бұрын

Lincoln invaded sovereign states protected by the Tenth Amendment. .

@martinham1409 2 ай бұрын

Lincoln admired the Constitution so much he felt justified in ignoring it.

@thebluestreamer6337 8 ай бұрын

This podcast has the best music intro out of every podcast I’ve seen, like holy crap it’s epic.

@evan12697 Жыл бұрын

I could understand finding the setting of the statue in poor taste today, but the man needs a new statue in front of his museum

@6663000 Жыл бұрын

Please continue this series.

@kwazhims3lf Жыл бұрын

keep going douglas these are fascinating.. i always impatiently are waiting for the next interview.. they say all good things come to an end but man, i hope this keeps going for at least 2 years.. hell, 5 would be great, it would build a decent catalogue to where you could finish watching them all then go back and start re-watching the ones you really liked

@catherinejudd7993 3 ай бұрын

4. Innovations during the Civil War-iron clad warships with rotating guns etc-invented mostly in Schenectady-elevated our navy post-Civil War to the undisputed global naval power.

@dionwall5519 Жыл бұрын

Very sad that the Philippines discussion didn't make the cut.

@tjflash60 7 ай бұрын

Excellent!

@drstrangelove4998 8 ай бұрын

A great series. Bill even looks like Theodore himself.

@leonardgoldstein3397 8 ай бұрын

I love this program. 🎉

@GFJDean35 Жыл бұрын

Has Roosevelt been cancelled by the left? This is the first I am hearing of this. I suspect the left would have wanted that statue to come down no matter who was on the horse, look it up if you haven't seen it. It's a shame there is no longer a statue of him in front of the museum of natural history in New Yourk though, he is the most fitting figure for so many reasons.

@michaelscully7303 Жыл бұрын

.....And there would be no "Museum of Natural History" on Central Park West, without T.R.

@martinham1409 2 ай бұрын

TR 's paternal grandfather was one of ten millionaires in New York when TR was born. Cornelius Van Schack Roosevelt.

@seanmcardle 9 ай бұрын

Good job thankyou

@PeteQuad Жыл бұрын

I'm always taken by how uncomfortable the guest chair looks. I get that he is going for an upright and formal vibe, but still feel like there is something he could do to make it better. *Edit - I just want to be clear though, I am a great fan of these interviews.

@user-pv5xk4bj8e 7 ай бұрын

I love your content

@violetk4948 Жыл бұрын

This is an excellent channel. Thank you!

@catherinejudd7993 3 ай бұрын

3. US navy was already so impressive by the 1850s that the UK felt terribly threatened by our navy and thus secretly hoped that the Confederates would win and the US would break apart into multiple smaller nations-not just North & South.

@martinham1409 2 ай бұрын

Alice made that comment after Eleanor's wedding to FDR. As her Uncle TR gave Eleanor away.

@danielmotamedi8048 9 ай бұрын

They are so good

@robertdshannon5155 3 ай бұрын

The massive centralization in WW1 was foreseen in the 1860’s. The founders of the Central Pacific RR said that competition should be abolished and one national Railroad should be established with the power to set rates, etc. “Brilliant people “ would run things based upon their brilliance. Competition is the problem not the solution. Look at the controls and railroads and telegraphs for war purposes and note that this occurred in the 1860’s.

@mrguy560 Жыл бұрын

“Lincoln venerated the constitution.” LOL

@mikestacyemett5914 Жыл бұрын

More than you wish to believe, given the time of insurrection (actual insurrection) he was dealing with.

@scott2452 Жыл бұрын

@@mikestacyemett5914 Technically it was ‘Secession’ rather than an ‘Insurrection’.

@user-jk8nx9hf9g 8 ай бұрын

Lincoln INVADED the SOVEREIGN STATES PROTECTED BY THE TENTH AMENDMENT. Slave owners did not fight the war. Common laborers, teachers, carpenters, etc., enlisted to fight the invaders. Lincoln destroyed the Tenth amendment.

@raymondswenson1268 2 ай бұрын

Article VI, which all states subscribed to when they joined the Union, states very clearly that the US Constitution and the laws enacted by the Federal government, are the Supreme Law of the Land, overriding any conflicting state laws, and all state officials and judges are required to take an oath to uphold the Federal government. The claim of the slave states that the Constiturional union was merely a club that they could resign from at any time, is directly contradicted by Article VI, which every state agreed to voluntarily. The entire purpose of the Constitution was to replace the Confederation of independent states that had failed, leaving the US vulnerable to individual states being lured to join other nations like Britain, France and Spain. Establishing an indissoluble union was essential to the security and independence of all of the states. That was why Article VI made it clear that the states were giving up their ability to compete against the national government.

@greenthumbz2415 3 ай бұрын

Love these videos, he was put in the VP because he was anti trust and big business wanted him put somewhere that he couldn't cause trouble. And he proceeded to break up the trusts. How can you say he didn't want to do that when he did? Can't argue with history

@stephengroton1434 Жыл бұрын

I would love to hear a brief summary, from him, of his thoughts on Carroll Quigley's Tragedy and Hope. Whenever I hear professorial historians I hear the "in 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue" version of history with moderate variations. It's a nice and interesting story he tells but it ignores the fact that events are caused. Behind the events of history is human causation, not just incidental, accidental occurrences. The typical scholarly version is that "this is how things just sort of happened" rather than the concerted efforts of small groups of dedicated, often obsessed and often eventually criminal, men. 7000 years of history of human civilization is a continuous history, at the top of these civilizations, of conspiracies.

@pamlico53 5 ай бұрын

Not unlike many current historians McClay continues to refuse to give Grant the deserved credit he earned . Little by little Grant will eventually be given proper recognition. I disagree with his statement that there were no good presidents after Lincoln until McKinley .

@robertmueller2023 6 ай бұрын

Hello ASUI. Professor Nanny cam here.

@mataform Жыл бұрын

I have only just come across this interesting site despite being keen on history and Murray. I wonder why I get so much crap recommended for me to watch but only now found this....

@mikeballard8404 9 ай бұрын

The Government policy on family brings us 1.8 children per couple.

@leedobson Жыл бұрын

A great president, I always admired him

@raymondswenson1268 2 ай бұрын

TR is the American most like Winston Churchill in his physical courage and vision for his nation. If TR had run for a second elected term, he might have become the first 3 term president, and been president when the US joined WW I. He would have seen Churchill as a kindred spirit.

@alanaadams7440 11 ай бұрын

He was sickly when he was young and somehow I think he almost over compensated for it

@alanaadams7440 11 ай бұрын

Shame shame on this Grandson to support the taking down of the Statue.

@usafvet100 2 ай бұрын

TR was unapologetically expansionist and militaristic, he referred to the Spanish American conflict as "that splendid little war." He envisioned the role of the US as being the world's policeman, especially in our hemisphere, and wasn't bashful about intervening in disputes with other nations, especially if it promoted American interests. He wanted the Panama Canal built, so he threw support to the Panamanian rebels who were seeking to break away from Columbia. He was equally confident in imposing the ideals of Western Civilization in non-Western areas, sometimes called the "white man's burden." The Left would vilify him today as a warmonger, imperialist, colonizer, and racist.

@johanneshoogenboom 10 ай бұрын

This guy looks like TR, I approve.

@annesmail4129 11 ай бұрын

I wanted to know more about his personal life and his first wife who was the love of his life. He went out west after her death and left his baby daughter Alice who grew up to be quiet. Character herself.

@altonbunnjr Жыл бұрын

There are a couple of recordings of Roosevelt make a speech here on KZfaq, and his voice wasn’t squeaky. Still enjoyed the episode though I wish they talked about how a voracious reader he was. He could read several books a day and could quote them back to people years later. I don’t know how Woodrow Wilson was a progressive considering that once in office he made a conscious effort to remove blacks from government employment. Also when we entered WWI he had a sedition act passed that allowed the government to jail people who protested the war.

@NBAballToWalls 9 ай бұрын

TR is a top 5 President of all time

@user-jk8nx9hf9g 8 ай бұрын

ONLY Local communities SHOULD decide the fate of its statues. .

@frankfowlkes7872 Жыл бұрын

I like and admire much about TR but the one thing that holds me back is his willingness to desert his infant daughter after his wife died and move out west to be a cowboy for several years. I understand he left Alice with his sister but it does strike me as a rather selfish move!

@ManDuderGuy Жыл бұрын

It may be that he felt he had little to offer, and his sister would be more capable and happy to raise her. A small child and a single man (kept away from his work and passion) was probably just a bad fit, an overall loss. Especially if he was not of a mind to re-marry.

@evan12697 Жыл бұрын

Society of the day was extremely unkind to the idea of a single father, and he probably also felt she needed a mother more than anything. I don't imagine it was a decision he made lightly, but especially with the grief of losing his wife and mother i don't want to judge him for it. "The light has gone out from my life" i think is what his diary read that day.

@catherinejudd7993 3 ай бұрын

5. For Britain secretly aiding the Confederacy in hopes of destroying U.S. global power review the “Alabama Claims” tribunal-in Geneva c. 1871.

@alexjager4517 9 ай бұрын

I thought henry adams wasn't too keen on Teddy, or maybe that's just my memory of their relationship through Gore vidals' Book EMPIRE. (??)

@catherinejudd7993 3 ай бұрын

2. Founder of US globalism was William Henry Seward-not Teddy R.

@moreredmeat7729 8 ай бұрын

He forgets that US Grant was a great president between Lincoln and Roosevelt.

@user-jk8nx9hf9g 8 ай бұрын

Grant allowed Sherman to rape, pillage and burn from Atlanta to the coast of South Carolina in 1865. Grant is NOT a hero in the south. Why would we want to hear bout his utter failure before the War of Northern Aggression?

@jwhubert91 Жыл бұрын

Y'all are completely wrong about the Roosevelt statue in NYC. I am a huge Roosevelt buff. I think he's one of the best presidents we ever had and an incredible person. But the statue itself was completely ridiculous. It depicted him on a horse while a black man and a Native American begged at his feet like servants. If the statue had simply been a statue of him- like the statue of Christopher Columbus down the street at Columbus Circle- no one would have cared about it or tried to take it down. Roosevelt deserves a good legacy and that statue did not serve that purpose accurately at all.

@ChopinIsMyBestFriend 7 ай бұрын

I AM SO SAD YOU DIDNT DO ANDREW JACKSON.

@dang328 Жыл бұрын

I had subscribed to this channel, but got unsubscribed... I had to search for this to find the video

@marksuper3802 9 ай бұрын

Trump=Teddy 2.0 Fantastic conversation.

@BenB23. Жыл бұрын

Wonder if Mr. Skinner will see this🤔

@Tylerius87 9 ай бұрын

ive always thought teddy is the most interesting president. he seems like a mythological creature

@catherinejudd7993 3 ай бұрын

1. Muscular Christianity = London 1840s assoc most with pastor & novelist Charles Kingsley.

@ejgorman Жыл бұрын

Edifying as always, but TR’s ‘New Nationalism’ speech was in Osawatomie, KS, not Potawatomi.

@user-jk8nx9hf9g 8 ай бұрын

Abraham Lincoln revered the Constitution? puuuh-leeez. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus.

@claytonshank6871 9 ай бұрын

McClay: he wanted women to be in the business of making babies Douglas: well THAT’S not a popular modern day opinion 😂

@adamsmith-wi3qg 9 ай бұрын

If he was a better writer, he could have been the American Churchill. His autobiography is not great (maybe some blame goes to the editor Anthony Brandt). Otherwise, an extraordinary individual.

@gabrielsyme4180 Жыл бұрын

Franklin Delano Roosevelt clearly should have his statues removed first. And Woodrow Wilson before him.

@by7810 Жыл бұрын

English is hard.

@gabrielsyme4180 Жыл бұрын

@@by7810 walnuts are harder

@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielsyme4180 - Hear-hear to your FDR and WW comment.

@lindadechiazza2924 Жыл бұрын

I'll second that emotion....

@masonvegas4336 Жыл бұрын

Not as hard as my morning wood

@frankmueller2781 10 ай бұрын

While I am not a fan of much of what Teddy Roosevelt did and stood for, he was PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES, and ought not be canceled and removed from public view.

@dg-ov4cf Жыл бұрын

What an intelligent, eloquent educator. Shame about his politics

@alanaadams7440 11 ай бұрын

Teddy would be a Republican today

@justinandmaxgames5472 Жыл бұрын

I love this series but it's becoming less coherent - where's the focus on the reasons why he is being cancelled? The guest didn't even know what the statue looked like! I grew up around that statue and lived near Sagamore Hill and am appalled by people's misunderstanding of history today but this episode didn't help explicate the situation. Here we talked about random things about TR - why UNcancel him? Too fast and loose with succession of ideas and important points missed both pro and con. This needs to be addressed - perhaps a TR scholar like the great episodes on Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln, etc.

@user-jk8nx9hf9g 8 ай бұрын

WhT a whiner…

@roysabo5319 Жыл бұрын

Dee-lited!

@BlueBaron3339 Жыл бұрын

This guest is too random and rambling. TR became President at 42, he was not elected at 42. He wasn't a Mugwump. He rejected them. He was an intellectual by any measure, reading at least two books a day and quoting from books he read years after he read them. He was a polyglot and a polymath, authoring over 30 books on multiple subjects, many of them authoritative works on those subjects. And the damned statue should have come down. Not out of "woke" fashion, but because it misrepresented him. Another statue of Theodore Roosevelt should have been put in its place.