I enjoy it when you voice act flowey too

If the Genocide Flowey monologue wasn’t proof enough, my god.

i wnna see it happen more bc liek omigosh itz like . SO good

wow i couldn’t tell

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Woah do you have the dialogue for this? I am not going through another neutral run lol

@@PhilAndMind I know Neutral isn't too bad, I just... don't want to play the game 4 times within less than a week. xD (I'm doing Pacifist again to close things off, my third and final run.) I don't have the heart to kill many monsters anyways, so I barely got any extra HP.

@@Violet111 2nd run: Hey. Come on! Idiot! ..... Here we are again. Wasn't as terrifying or flashy as it was the first time, huh? Cut me some slack! My imagination is only so vast! Forget it. I might as well be talking to a wall. You don't retain your memory after resets. That's why I have to explain the same things every time. Place the same savepoints, make the same comments... "Golly, this place sure is ____!" "Keep up the good work, buddy!" "Remember your mission!" Over and over and over and over... But I notice things each run. You solve puzzles faster. You defeat monsters faster. You navigate the Underground like you have a map. All that, yet I know your memory is wiped clean. I can't explain it... ... Maybe at some point it will all culminate. You will finally lead me to what I need. Until then, I'll reset. And reset and reset and reset and reset and reset and reset and reset and 3rd run: Hey. Come on! Please! ..... What is this? Why do we keep ending up here? Every time you make certain choices, it's the rooftop. Martlet always convinces you to go with her. Am I supposed to just... let that happen? No... I've seen you surrender and adapt before. It doesn't lead anywhere. So, what? Is this it? Is this the way it has to be? When I first steered you into the Dark Ruins... I could've sworn I was onto something. But it feels like your life - your fate - is locked in. As if there's a specific way it MUST play out. If that's true... what does that fate lead to? Ultimately? ...Maybe you're not the one I need? Maybe you're only a stepping stone? A... precursor. "They come. They leave. They die." That's what she always said. ... There will be another. And this "helpful" act... It's not working. I need to embrace who I really am as soon as I'm rid of you. For now, however, I have to keep it up. I know what it's like to be at rock bottom without hope. This... while incredibly frustrating... This act has gotten me the closest I've ever been to my goal. It's the first time I've felt like I've made true progress. Sure I could try rigging a new puzzle... Drag you into another alternate path... But even I don't have the patience for that. I know deep down that my plan WILL work out. What I don't know is whether that plan involves you in the end. ...Alive, that is. But I've blabbered on enough. It's time for me to fake a smile through another excruciating journey. Don't mess it up again. 4th run: Hey. Uh-huh I really hate you, you know that? ..... Great. Heh. Talk about a "dead end." ... That's not funny. None of this is. I shouldn't be here. Not again. I mean, come on... Don't I have anything better to do? If your fun value is over 70 during your 4th fight, then he says this instead: ... Come on! ... ..... . . . . . ... You know? It's strange. Something's off here. We're alone in my mind right now. It's clear that we're alone, right? Then why I can't shake it... Only since you showed up has it been this way. ... I have to reset again. I have to reset until I find the right path. Until you make the right choices. Until it...

​@Reset2150676 Wow, that's so cool. Thank you for sharing.

@@Reset2150676 Thank you for this comment

Flowey does that everytime, don't be silly

She does this daily

@@Maniaceraser he, its asriel, ya know that?

​@@ELIXFUDIDOits a plant

@@roxas5071 its a dead goat

He’s weaker than his omega variant, but still stronger than Clover. Although He doesn’t have any human souls yet, Clover doesn’t have Determination

​@@masterpiece8846Pretty sure all human souls have determination. (This is canon to undertale.) Clover has it, just less than Flowey. (That is what the game is sort of implying, I think.)

@@TheVillainousSoul yeah, determination is a physical property of all human souls, like how monster souls are made entirely of magic.

​@@TheVillainousSoulyeah, all humans have determination, but the being with the most of it (in this case Flowey since he has pure determination inside of him) can control the timeline, spoilers for genocide, but for example, after killing Martlet Flowey no longer has access to the save files since Clover is too determined to complete their goal

​@@Roman-ik3cfI don't think it's determination in Geno. Clover's sense of Justice overpowers Flowey's determination. I think that's what happened because the save point didn't mention anything about determination but did say something about "it fills you with justice" or smth along those lines

#Evil #Destroyr #Manipulation😈😈😈😈

This is probably one of the few times this copypasta could actually apply to a character

I think it applies even more since your body straight up doesn't exist. Like in most depictions of Undertale fights, the soul is outside of the player character, and I assume they control the soul telepathic-like. However this time, you are literally inside of Flowey's mind, taking the perspective of the soul that has been shaped into their former vessel. (I don't know how to explain it but I feel like the soul / body relationship is a weird mixture of real world brains and hypothetical souls / ghosts) Since you are the soul with the memories, and presumably consciousness, you *really* want to scream or cry because it's hard wired into you after YEARS of having necessary parts to achieve those goals, but your soul lacks those parts. Even if it did, Flowey would probably rewind time every time you try, with your memories of the failed attempt being intact since again, you are a part of him now. TL;DR - This is a worse fate than hell itself.

The fact you have a Lalo pfp makes this comment funnier for some reason

​@@user-om2kq9wr9d IS THAT A SOG

I agree and this is probably one of the best Undertale fan games I’ve ever played

That stare at the audience well and properly disturbed me.

Fr, it’s oddly my favorite “ending”/fight because it does put into perspective how strong determination is, this was from a time FLOWEY was in absolute control, it was HIS world to manipulate before Frisk fell into the underground.

You need to voice act this in some capacity. This boss fight is amazing!

This is such a good boss fight. Loved and feared all of the different phases

Flowey will use the attacks of deceases enemies, any deceased one

@@sophrosynes6392 Nah, only bosses and minibosses you've killed. Doesn't count regular enemies.

Actually he only uses the attack of bosses you killed, it does not have to be a aborted genocide

@@Alansong09 but you can only fight ceroba in a genocide or aborted genocide one since in pacifist you cant fight flowey

LMAO

No way 💀

rip bozo

That must have been jarring as fuck 💀

Does microfroggit not give EXP?

that's clover...

@@thej_real2137it’s clover

Each time you see someone's memories they are not telling you them, you see them yourself. Clover has an ability to read other's memories.

​then there's Flowey since the fight took place entirely inside his head Clover just wander far enough to see -Asriel- his memories perhaps flowey want clover to witness them who know?

@@darkdragonpl9229nah its just undertale logic

I'm just going to consider it canon at this point

​@@ConsumePaydayContentIf you want to avoid spoiles you could have just uhm you know not click on any of the videos that had them or just stay away from youtube until you are done with the game In short thats more on you then on them

@@ConsumePaydayContent your drunk go back to sleep

@@ConsumePaydayContent uhm no i Was just joking i apologize if it came out offensive

​@@krabbecorkornso now you're joking with me? Trying to make me laugh? You have no effect

Neutral is so underrated and deserves better, I bet they liked the idea of even the smallest changes making big impacts which is why EVERYTHING you do for neutral run is accounted for in this fight, killed an enemy? they show up as an attack, aborted your run then continued it later? Intro dialoug changed, never saved? Different text, everything.

​​@@taraktaras7327Flowey really made me feel it with killed opponents showing up in his fight. My Neutral run was me killing every opponent I encountered (unless I backtracked) while making my way to the final boss. Really enforcing "you reap what you sow" If I do another run I'm probably just gonna step on a micro froggit or something and see where that goes

@@Doobie-kx8fk Geno spoilers You can even make Ceroba show up if you abort genocide after killing her.

I mean, it’s the same way in base UT. The difference is you’re forced into it your first run.

Sadly, El Balador doesn't attack. Was crazy seeing dalv and starlo tho

SPOILER If you decide not to spare Ceroba at the end of a pacifist run, you do not get this neutral ending but get to Asgore instead. Giving up on their principals of justice, Clover just gives up. Not gonna spoil any further but probably it's the most disappointing ending even though it's quite fitting.

@@michaelvanhout7614 spoiler i feel like they just give up cuz yes, just like when you do spare her

@@lemons38once you break her mask

I got this ending by only stomping a micro froggit lol.

​@@mygodseiyour soul has become corrupt the very moment it happened

Also fun fact about this as well is that Flowey even does some of the geno only attacks which is super neat

@@kreatona4219like what? Just out of curiosity

@@siijon0353 Ceroba's flower petal one that entraps you and then turns into a wave of either blue or orange (if that made sense)

Funnily enough tho, with the route I took Axis used the trashcan lid shield for himself which resulted in the different attack pattern, but Flowey used the normal Axis pattern instead (also Axis gets unique humorous dialogue for the failed geno route, where he just ends up getting tired which let's you beat him)

@@kreatona4219 oh yeah, I do love how detailed this fangame is! I would try to go for the most neutral out (geno till the last possible point) but i’d hate to fight Ceroba again (my most hated fight because I heavily dislike taking away max hp just to make it more artificially difficult)

and also the easiest (in my opinion)

@@ghostslord-23 that is just fact, Flowey feels actually FAIR while still being somewhat difficult.

the music artist also need a shoutout, the breakcore music here goes hard

Yeah, omg. This is one of the times that Yellow out-does the OG, imo.

i feel bad for the artists because they had to make 6 different flowey phases that appear for less then a minute@@MemesSSChara

Also Chara/Frisk duo Is damn overpowered

@@wolfgalaxy9086 In my first run I thought of killing Dalv or just bosses to see the dialoug thinking that it was like in undertale.

Hm, I would argue True Pacifist is much more rewarding, but this ending might be the most interesting

Neutral: most interesting Pacifist: most rewarding Geno: most epic

While it's more rewarding from a gameplay standpoint, TP definitely has the greatest payoff in terms of characters though

​@@great_hedgehog8199yeah neutral is more rewarding from a gameplay standpoint, but from a writing and character standpoint TP is much better

Imo the second phase is kinda unnecessary imo. The first one is more disturbing, and the second one is sorta just omega flowey but better. I like it a lot, don't get me wrong here. Maybe it is because the music doesn't fit? The artwork and designs are masterful, though. Nm, I guess the second phase is disturbing in a less subtle way?

​@daniellejackson6543 H Huh??? Both phases are amazing what you mean the music don't fit? What are you tryna say here dawg? 🤔🤔🤔

@@daniellejackson6543 Eh I get what you mean but it's trademark for all three true endings (true neutral, genocide and pacifist) to have a fase with dashes and the yellow soul type. And the music is on point IMO and what did you want out of second phase flowey? You can only really do so much with a flowey boss without a soul and I think they settled for something incredible.

​@@PhilAndMindFunny thing is, Clover would've never thought to absorb Asgore's soul unless Flowey didn't tell them about it being possible That and Clover couldn't save without LV 20, since they don't have as much determination

@@PEARLSTOTHEPLAYERS(spoilers) flowey’s dead at the end of genocide, which makes clover the being with the greatest amount of determination in the underground, therefore, they are able to save at the end of genocide

Most importantly, it gives Flowey the spotlight he deserves, with his manipulation going full throttle starting from the switch. He's ALWAYS in control here ever since the start (except Geno but Geno seems like a worst case scenario in favour of Clover and is highly implausible)

this is why im so glad i stayed off one specific path. actually did what i felt like and got a cool af reward.

For both regular undertale and undertale yellow, I killed the monsters who made me the angriest. Sir Slither and Axis can go die in a hole. (Only enemies I died more than once to)

I agree with this statement

I too would like to profess my fondness for that particular statement

flowey says at the end of the fight he wants them dead

@@roxas5071 well at the beginning he says he wants to have more fun with clover before he resets the world

@@roxas5071 maybe it's both! he wanted more fun at first, but clover kept fighting even after he got bored

@@roxas5071That’s because he got bored.

Thanks to this fangame I realized how much I liked Flowey as a character in Undertale, and in UT Yellow I got even more attached to him! I just finished the neutral ending a few minutes ago after doing pacifist and genocide, and it's definitely my favorite ending. It was so intense, it was a perfect ending for Flowey. I loved every second of it.

i saw the warning and still couldn't read allat (jk)

yeah he mentions how you stopped your massacre

Do you have a link to that video, by any chance? I've been looking for documented differences in a run where the genocide route is aborted in the Steamworks (via failing to reach the kill count)

Just saw your comment, in Mystic Slimes stream he did neutral ending first, but within a genocide run up to before the end. I started the timestamp right before this point m.kzfaq.infoJwJg10GBCK8?si=qsYMq0DM-eyP2T9C&t=14451

Also he shows up for like a split second before it's reset.

"Making the flowey hard"

@@patoanimations420I ain’t even think of it like that first time I read over it-

This one is better than Photoshop, so I think GIMP flowey is a better title.

Close-

I'd like to call it "FloweyCore"

Yup, the trauma attacks are pretty and really clever But i'd guess it has something related to labs or something as the songs names are called "Clay, organic, paper." Maybe Subject Flowey or Mass Flowey.

@@saiyanfang1047 I mean, Flowey _technically_ only has one SOUL in this fight, even if Clover is rebelling against him.

Wait, I just realized I don’t think Flowey ever does the Asriel face in Yellow (Again, outside of Geno because although I’ve been spoiled on some aspects of Geno because internet, I don’t know everything about it), which implies he only did it to torment Frisk (Who he states in Pacifist he assumed was the first Fallen Human because they both had red souls and because Frisk decided to RP as them for like all of Undertale for an undisclosed reason)

I think one problem with the perception of the game is that too often people will try to compare it to the inspirations of the original and take points off for not being as authentic or simple in parts, when in reality it should just stand on its own as a game. While I think the original Undertale is great as a story and obviously is the reason this exists, too many people kind of got caught up in pointing out how it's not a "Toby Fox" game when, in reality, it shouldn't be, cause that's the bane of a lot of other fangames. Sure same universe, but the differences are supposed to make you enjoy the game on its own (and to this day a Toby Fox game is still only defined as 1.5 games to the point where I think even he'd have trouble defining what constitutes such a description) tl;dr it is in our human nature to compare but sometimes it's just best and infinitely more fun to experience all the stuff people can make, which is what this ending is a really good example of

@@sagaositygamez785 I’m okay with it being unique, but A. If they want the artstyle to be unique, then either redraw the old characters or don’t use them at all. There’s a scene where Martlet interacts with Alphys with her 2 frames of animation and 4 colors and then Martlet does a 4k 60FPS head turn as if those two fit together, and B. If they want the games set in the same world then *don’t make the worlds incompatible* . In Undertale, The Underground has no weather, as Alphys says. However, Undertale Yellow still descibes how The Underground’s weather works in great detail. In Undertale, Mettaton barely gets a dozen views on a good day, and one of them is Papyrus who just always has his TV on, but in Undertale Yellow, he’s world famous and is mentioned in both Snowdin and The Wild East. If the Toy Gun and Six Shooter accept anything as ammo, why doesn’t Frisk just load them? There’s a lot mpre examples of this, but KZfaq crashed and I don’t wanna retype my whole comment, but still, the point stands that these two games “set in the same universe” have fundamentally different universes. If I’m supposed to get immersed, why have every other room break my immersion. If Flowey wasn’t there, then it’d be a fun standalone project, and if Flowey was there more, it’d be a fun and more convincing Undertale fangame, but they take Flowey away from you _JUST_ often enough for the game to feel like it’s shackled itself to Undertale with no intent to follow up on it. Plus, my main problem isn’t just that it “didn’t feel like Undertale”, it’s that is didn’t feel like Undertale _Yellow_ . Nothing that was set up in the demo was acted upon, they changed everyhting to fit the new lore, there’s tons of places where you’re supposed to just look at the pretty pictures and ignore the game being a buggy mess that the game wouldn’t’ve been if it had been more like the demo, which, given what a demo is, or at least should be, they should’e done. If Undertale Yellow were released in full right now with the demo having been indicitive of the final game (which, yes, the Snowdin trailer from a year after launch shows of Ceroba’s mask, so they DEFINETLY had the “plot” planned out that far in advance), or even if they had just said “Hey, this game is gonna be a bit different than we planned, but we hope you enjoy it regardless”, or at least had done SOMETHING to indicate that the game had changed or that The Ruins aren’t at all similar to anything else in the game despite arguably being the best part of the game, it would’ve been a much better game IMO.

They're multiplying

Guardener also you're right

It'd fit for Flowey to have multiple voice actors for the moods and forms, Shayy would definitely be the most recognizable and best voice actor

Well he’s on par with Jacksepticeye imo

Nothing like good ol trauma

Fr

"You..."

Yeah, I can see what you mean. The forms of some of the monsters that return in this fight feel like they'd be right at home in help_tale too.

Yeah that too

How was Ceroba?

Didn't appear

thats the name of the track agter martlet dies! you gotta be kidding me

Got that one on stream

Some people call that the alternate pacifist ending. I like to call it the pacifisn't ending.

Iirc it's called flaw pacifist

He meant down the hole in the ruins