Alan Wake 2 - Impressive and Disappointing (REVIEW)

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Under The Mayo

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7 ай бұрын

Alan Wake 2 is the definition of "mixed".
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@underthemayo
@underthemayo 7 ай бұрын
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@AndroidFerret
@AndroidFerret 7 ай бұрын
I think the same . Singleplayer games online ? F..that !
@RMX-ART
@RMX-ART 7 ай бұрын
O boy
@TigburtJones
@TigburtJones 7 ай бұрын
You’re jaded; maybe read some books for a few months and then play a game. You guys are so desensitized it’s SICK AND SCARY
@RMX-ART
@RMX-ART 7 ай бұрын
@@TigburtJones who me
@laurilahti9863
@laurilahti9863 4 ай бұрын
There is cutscene you can watch yheyr face memorizet
@weeziepuff13
@weeziepuff13 5 ай бұрын
Developer's perspective here. AAA environments take multiple years to create in terms of geometry, textures/shaders, lighting, LODs, etc. It's a massive undertaking especially when developers are going for realism. A lot of the actual level design is done up front and designers are lucky if they get a few months to get it all blocked in for hand-off to art. In many cases, combat systems are not finalized when levels go into production, so camera issues and problems with combat become an issue because the art can't change very much when these systems are finalized. You'd think after 30+ years of AAA game development, this would all be a non-issue, but I see it in every single game I play. The hope is that these systems work in 70% of the environments. Also, the more detailed the environment is, the less space there is for enemy navigation, so it's a constant conversation between design and art to reach some sort of happy medium where visual fidelity isn't obstructing gameplay. I thought Remedy did a great job with this in Control (minus some boss rounds), but Alan Wake 2 is a step backwards IMHO.
@BruceLeedar
@BruceLeedar 4 ай бұрын
I believe the devs said that the camera FOV/position is intentionally small/close to help foster fear, but IMO it ends up fostering frustration to a greater degree. What you talk about probably does play into the clunky path finding of the enemies that can severely sap fear when you learn to exploit their inability to traverse/attack around corners/obstacles, especially in the outdoor sections.
@-redacted_by_youtube
@-redacted_by_youtube 3 ай бұрын
Gee sounds like game developers need to get their shit together. Huh?.
@-redacted_by_youtube
@-redacted_by_youtube 3 ай бұрын
Not helping developers situation by saying they can't do their job properly. If I fyck3d up shit at my job? I'm fired.
@LOP4795
@LOP4795 3 ай бұрын
All that work put to waste when you consult with Sweet Baby Inc.
@GodOfWarConnoisseur
@GodOfWarConnoisseur 3 ай бұрын
Cool story bro. The game still sucks 🤷
@SmoughTown
@SmoughTown 7 ай бұрын
That sketch absolutely killed me
@iitzfizz
@iitzfizz 7 ай бұрын
The mind place definitely kills the flow of what is already a slow game
@BlackViperGX
@BlackViperGX 7 ай бұрын
seriosly i tried the game after a day of work and i was falling asleep in the first case, that mind place thing is so unnecesary and pace killer, or maybe i'm too old? hahaha
@Wusaruful
@Wusaruful 2 ай бұрын
I liked the game and to be honest i like the idea of the mind place just not the execution , most of the times it felt like a chore to fill the board with information i most likely knew anyway
@xshadowscreamx
@xshadowscreamx Ай бұрын
@@WusarufulI imagine it was also a chore the devs. Whoever the boss was to make these annoying decisions needs to be slapped.
@chalk-one
@chalk-one 7 ай бұрын
The profiling ability is the ultimate deus ex machina. It's the crutch for every new plot point, plot explanation, or existing plot progression that wasn't/couldn't be shown or achieved through actual gameplay. It became thoroughly tiresome.
@willza0112
@willza0112 5 ай бұрын
It's quite ironic because Wake has a line towards the end of the game where he says something to the likes of "I'm my own Deus Ex Machina". While he is at times too, Saga's entire storyline was just one big Deus Ex Machina at times lmao. It really annoyed me how often the story would reach a seeming dead end just for it to end up in Saga was magic powers wooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@drgonzo123
@drgonzo123 5 ай бұрын
Yeah I got bored of all the mind place stuff, because the characters would just endlessly repeat what you already knew. Some were so bad because a character would tell you something, then Saga would say it in the detective board, and repeat it again in her profiling. By the end I was forcing myself to get through the story. I was not impressed like most reviewers were.
@robreich6881
@robreich6881 14 күн бұрын
It’s explained in the story why it is like that though, so it’s not like it was just coincidentalz
@javax6
@javax6 7 ай бұрын
The satire of the mind place was absolutely hilarious
@fepethepenguin8287
@fepethepenguin8287 7 ай бұрын
Ur ab fab.. Ya you know the TV show from the 90s in Britain Take that how ever you want
@Ricky-tr2hd
@Ricky-tr2hd 7 ай бұрын
The mind stuff is BS
@sharkybit
@sharkybit 7 ай бұрын
Absolute gold loved the parody sketch!
@mattjindrak
@mattjindrak 7 ай бұрын
What satire?
@Samigama
@Samigama 7 ай бұрын
​@@mattjindrakstarts around 12:00 .... did you hop on comments without fully watching the video
@HeyKyle
@HeyKyle 7 ай бұрын
I’ll never understand why games think a red filter around your screen is a good way to showcase that you’re low in HP. I always remove that shit with a mod if I can
@user-rk2xi7iw9k
@user-rk2xi7iw9k 7 ай бұрын
Best way i can describe alan wake 2 is that its a good experience full of creative and mind fuck moments with a well told story, but an extremely shallow and boring video game.
@dsinghr
@dsinghr 6 ай бұрын
Which mind fvck moments are you referring to? I am 6 hours into the game and can’t remember a single one. It’s pretty average game
@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos
@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos 6 ай бұрын
The game kicks up around that point anywhere from the 6-8 hour mark. The rest of the game is much more enjoyable. Except the final fight which just isn’t enjoyable but it’s a cool spectacle
@BTRC-mk9sm
@BTRC-mk9sm 6 ай бұрын
Very similar to rdr2, amazing story and great experience, but terribly boring game
@drgonzo123
@drgonzo123 5 ай бұрын
@@BTRC-mk9smI disagree with your take on RDR2, respectfully. I know the movement and shooting mechanics were an issue for some, but I never once felt that way with RDR2, because there was so much to engage with. AW2 however doesn’t offer much in the way of gameplay. I had a hard time making it through to the end. Even some cool ideas, like how Alan can change scenes in real time got old and frustrating when you have to cycle between all the realities to try and find what the game wanted you to do next. (I got stuck in the theater in the late game when I had already finished the puzzle, but then wanted to leave the damn theater and was cycling through all 4 realities over and over trying to simply find an exit). Something clicked with me in RDR2 that AW2 just never did. Just my opinion, not trying to say you’re wrong for the way you feel.
@RunnyElephant44
@RunnyElephant44 5 ай бұрын
Wym the whole part of it is a perfect sequel
@3rdStepStudios
@3rdStepStudios 7 ай бұрын
The story wasn't inherently confusing but mid-game did leave open ended questions and things unanswered which culminated in everything coming together for a conclusion that explains everything quite nicely. The game may not be for you, but as an avid survival-horror fan I take issue with trying to constrain every game in the genre to functioning the same "because that's what makes survival horror" when it's not, this is arguably the best Survival Horror we've had this year and arguably for me the second best one in recent years following SIGNALIS (which was intentionally designed to play like very specific older survival-horror games). The more you intentionally go into a game and begin to view it negatively the more it spirals into a feedback loop. The game's not perfect, but if you intentionally start skipping segments that have contextually-relevant story...then complain that things are restated and tedious (despite the entire mechanic being a visualization of a person gathering their thoughts) then you've ultimately created the problem for yourself, and yes, that's something that should be accounted for in development, but it's also something that's just an issue with gamers overall as of late. Survival-horror veterans are no exception to this. Taking the time to actually understand the world and story instead of trying to fast-track it also helps greatly. You have some valid criticisms throughout, but there's others where it's clear that the issues are entirely self-induced. The title is quintessential Remedy, but that also comes with the idea that each game is going to be different. Remedy's always focused more on the story aspect than creating the most diverse of combat styles, this also does still have to be a sequel to the original, so there aren't going to be insanely large differences between them. You created a self-fulfilling prophecy the further into this story you spiraled, and that's fine that it wasn't for you, but it's obvious that because of that you didn't actually take the time to piece it together. Story Summaries are ultimately not a way to gain an understanding of a universe, they can help, but experience should be first and foremost (look at SIGNALIS, you can watch explanations all day but they'll be interpretative based on each person's varying experiences that should instead be used to augment your own understanding of playing through to piece it together yourself. Alan Wake 2 most closely reminded me of Resident Evil 7 in a lot of ways. I could discuss it for a while but I think I've spent about 30-40 hours on the game so I've seen quite a bit of it, but there's still more to come with NG+ and its alternate and extra narrative content, then the two story expansions next year. I'd argue I really want to see TheSphereHunter's thoughts on it since Suzi played through it quite a bit.
@underthemayo
@underthemayo 7 ай бұрын
The best survival horror game of 2023 is Amnesia: The Bunker. Alan Wake 2 doesn't even come close. And people "not constraining games" into what makes them survival horror is how we get people saying Dead Space and Doom 3 are survival horror games. It's a genre built on many specific mechanics. If you dump most of them, then you're not in the genre anymore. I also SAID in this this video, that Alan Wake 2 plays as a pretty decent survival horror game at times so I don't see what the issue is. I don't think viewing story summaries (hours I watched) is the problem. My problem is with HOW the story is being told here. Very repetitive scenes. Repetitive animations. Repetitive dialogue. And you're calling THAT ending "a conclusion that explains everything quite nicely"? You don't even get to find out if Sage's daughter is alive or not.
@Huntanian
@Huntanian 7 ай бұрын
The whole point of the ending is that the protagonists don't get a happy ending. They want to save everyone? They get punished for it since it doesn't fit the genre. The game stated and repeated that too, so despite the repetivity, it still doesn't sink in for some players.@@underthemayo
@underthemayo
@underthemayo 7 ай бұрын
@@Huntanian no, it's not that she doesnt get a happy ending. She doesn't get AN ENDING. If the daughter answered that would be a good ending. If she didn't, that would suggest a bad ending. It's neither of those. It just cuts to credits before anything happens. That's not an ending.
@mrjtfang2
@mrjtfang2 7 ай бұрын
@@underthemayo Are there many survival horror's that came out 2023? I like The Bunker, but I feel like it could be easily beaten-but maybe that's because I don't really like super short experiences (as I understand it, it's a pretty short game compared to others.)
@underthemayo
@underthemayo 7 ай бұрын
@@mrjtfang2 yeah it's a short list but the remakes of RE4 and DEAD SPACE lean heavier into survival horror than their originals which was very nice.
@kemy5368
@kemy5368 7 ай бұрын
it requiers an internet connection to play ?! Weird I have not experience that issue with the cracked version...
@SolonGaming
@SolonGaming 7 ай бұрын
You know the industry is sinking when piracy is incentivised that much. Like, even if you are against piracy, it's still better to play the cracked version because it's still accessible with your internet down
@roscosimmons-shorts8050
@roscosimmons-shorts8050 7 ай бұрын
What's weird is I live in a very rural area with satellite internet and have had no such issues. I'm not sure if he had a bug or what.
@Eirik_Jarl
@Eirik_Jarl 5 ай бұрын
It wasn't intended to be in the game, and they patched it out. It also didn't happen on every system, so it wasn't universal.
@wpyyexe
@wpyyexe 4 ай бұрын
KEK
@dragothica4925
@dragothica4925 7 ай бұрын
Glad to see you agree about the overuse of absolutely disappointing jumpscare moments, which are directed 100% towards the player and the playable character never reacts to them in any way. The actual story doesn't seem that scary and constant anticipation of jumpscares takes some players completely out of the experience and turns the whole game into a long running joke. It ruins the focus to other atmospheric elements. The game Control is a good example, there are barely any jumpscare moments in that game yet it has incredible atmosphere throughout the whole game. Technically the game is impressive, that can't be denied though. (I wrote most of this while watching early part of the video, edited afterwards. I also disliked the storyboard moments, there should have been a option to just automatically place them by the game.)
@jonnywaldis8275
@jonnywaldis8275 7 ай бұрын
Funnily enough Saga did react to one of the jumpsvate flashes once. She said something like "oh come on!" She was annoyed, like the player.
@Bohtar
@Bohtar 7 ай бұрын
I mean they do react but not in a scared sense. I’m fairly certain that the “jumpscares” indicate the dark place meddling with reality. So sometimes when you see scratch’s face something changes and they absolutely do react to that. It was sorta the same in the first game, minus the faces that showed up
@Doffy11232
@Doffy11232 6 ай бұрын
At first it was kinda scary but a few hours into the game the jumpscares were just overused it started to get pretty annoying.
@waltzforvenus_9164
@waltzforvenus_9164 5 ай бұрын
Actually both characters react to them just only once or twice . I assume they get used to it like the player lol. The jumpscare right before the save room at the beginning of the subway station section Alan says “fuck!” It’s actually pretty funny
@i_love_musique333
@i_love_musique333 4 ай бұрын
The "jumpscares" are Kino and exist as a proximity sensor for disturbances in reality, not really to scare the player You and Mayo got filtered bro
@mrpoopiebungholio4871
@mrpoopiebungholio4871 7 ай бұрын
Immediate 'F' for an SP game requiring mandatory internet connection = immediate smashing of the like button.
@Wusaruful
@Wusaruful 2 ай бұрын
it literally doesnt, if it starts it says it can´t connect to the server, you can press continue offline fake outrage
@alonemax2912
@alonemax2912 7 ай бұрын
The gameplay just feels unfinished. There are so many recourses, so many upgrades and yet 80% of them are pointless, because you kill like 50 enemies in the entire game (aside two musical battles (where you loaded anyway)). Different enemy types, yet they killed all in the same way: just point and shoot and dodge system is pretty weird too. The story is great (even though the nursing house part was boring), i still loved returning to this world 13 years later, but with great gameplay it could've been an instant classic. But sadly because of barebones gameplay and slow exploration replayability is in big question.
@HunterForHire422
@HunterForHire422 7 ай бұрын
I always hate feeling like im not able to enjoy a game everyone seems to love but thats been happening alot this year. I feel like AW2 is only for the fans and im happy they got what they wanted. i don't think most reviews have properly shown that though, and i feel a little cheated.
@D1BU.
@D1BU. 7 ай бұрын
Games have gotten too cinematic and every major developer is running after graphics with the "gameplay" which should be the main focus being the after thought. The focus on pointless stuff is what bores me from the major AAA releases. Honestly I have enjoyed Indie titles more than what AAA games we have gotten this decade (with some exceptions like Doom Eternal etc).
@1GTX1
@1GTX1 7 ай бұрын
@@D1BU. I agree, but honestly games like Outlast 1, Life is Strange 1, Alan Wake 1 and few other games, made the experience of being in that universe so good, that the gameplay was not that important. It's like with modern art, there were few great artists, and works of modern art, but now it's mainstream, a way to make money, and most of it is nonsense.
@D1BU.
@D1BU. 7 ай бұрын
@@1GTX1 Those games you have specified have defined genre and they work well for them. The new ones have one genre for showing while the gameplay says otherwise that's where my problems with them starts. Take Alan wake 2 for example, it is listed as survival horror but the gameplay feels like a walking simulator with puzzles and some shooting in between and those jump scares feel forcefully added to make it seem like a horror game. why not just list it as an adventure game at that point?
@HunterForHire422
@HunterForHire422 7 ай бұрын
​​@1GTX1 alan wake 1, for me, did a much better job being artsy while staying interactive. All the best parts of 2 you don't actually play and I felt like I should have just watched a playthrough cause all the actual gameplay was pretty much filler between each story beat. The first game tied it together a bit better
@TheJackal917
@TheJackal917 7 ай бұрын
I WAS a fan of the first game, and I didn't get what I wanted.
@shawnthomas6492
@shawnthomas6492 7 ай бұрын
Since I didn’t play the first game or know what happened, sagas story helped me understand what was happening while alans story was able to explain other questions I had.
@DaddyDaughterGaming5
@DaddyDaughterGaming5 7 ай бұрын
Me too I like saga personally
@losmosquitos1108
@losmosquitos1108 7 ай бұрын
A.Wake 1 (not A.Wake-American nightmare!) is the game you should play. Either the already beautiful original version or its later RT remake. Doesn‘t matter. This was a really beautiful game…..
@shawnthomas6492
@shawnthomas6492 7 ай бұрын
@@losmosquitos1108 I want to but I’m worried the gameplay is going to drag because ppl are saying there is too much mindless combat and you fight non living things as bosses
@HunterForHire422
@HunterForHire422 7 ай бұрын
​@@shawnthomas6492 Had more fun there then in 2 honestly.
@Physics072
@Physics072 6 ай бұрын
and....? Why are you sharing this information? Great you had secret questions of your own answered to your liking. How is that helpful to anyone else but you?
@iamsancho443
@iamsancho443 7 ай бұрын
I like that the skit with your friend always seem to contain a can of soda. Funny little easter egg.
@cameronscott7304
@cameronscott7304 7 ай бұрын
I honestly think if a second playable character was necessary of the story then it should have been Alex Casey. That was already the hero character he had created.
@BIOJECT
@BIOJECT 7 ай бұрын
They had to have the diversity hire character to meet the quota.
@mrjtfang2
@mrjtfang2 7 ай бұрын
@@BIOJECT You'll be an adult one day.
@lordxmugen
@lordxmugen 7 ай бұрын
@@mrjtfang2 What are you talking about? did you know the game was consulted with Sweet Baby Inc, which was made for exactly that purpose?
@ChristopherLeBlancArtAndDesign
@ChristopherLeBlancArtAndDesign 7 ай бұрын
@@mrjtfang2 That wasn't his opinion, that's literally what happened. Just because you refuse to acknowledge the world is filled with people who place skin color above all other priorities doesn't mean it isn't true. You play as Saga for 70% of the game and Alan is turned into a side character. To make it even more insulting, Saga both saves Alan from the Dark Place and has to tell Alan how to write the story in the final scene of the game. It was patronizing and offensive.
@HolySok
@HolySok 7 ай бұрын
He's already tied to the story. Clearly in Quantum Break they were already toying with the idea of Saga being a character (as Alex gets killed in that Easter Egg video). Saga is meant to be the "fresh slate" character. Plus Alan basically "becomes" Casey in the Dark Place thematically
@Trio3224
@Trio3224 7 ай бұрын
I just finished the game yesterday, and just recently played Alan Wake 1 for the first time. I really liked both. Because I went in with the expectation that these were story games first and foremost. Yeah, I definitely have some nitpicks of the gameplay and some of the detective elements of Saga in particular, but overall it was such a cool and unique experience. It's not very often I play a game that genuinely doesn't feel like anything else, that alone is worth it to me. As for the ending, for me it depends where it goes from here. I don't mind a good cliffhanger as long as more good stuff follows it, whether that's DLC or a full blown sequel.
@theworld6710
@theworld6710 6 ай бұрын
The ending really gets filled out with the New Game+ they added. Wraps up the cliffhanger.
@nopunksalive8902
@nopunksalive8902 6 ай бұрын
​@@theworld6710 yes but poorly.
@caxshen
@caxshen 5 ай бұрын
the game make me think why i has to go through these padding saga part to realize alan was in a spiral rather than a loop thing. the saga part feel like a forced fanservice for certain individual without a strong impact to the story, the entire saga journey could be deleted and be replaced by some set piece like saga into the overlap. alan part was the only revelation of how's the story moving forward after all. this also a reason why i never replay it again ,it's boring and i waste too many time for only little plot to push. the whole saga playthrough was like a busy work, and the combat is suck into oblivion. the upgrade was completely useless because all you need is reflex over strategy. probably the worst action game i've played in a while. control beat it into oblivion. alan wake 2 is hard was only because the teleporting bullet sponge enemy and super clunky player movement, not because it is well design. there is not enough enemy variation as well. could've just invest the resource on control 2 instead wasting a resource on DEI demonstration with many thing underbaked. my 35 hours playthrough speaks it all.
@theworld6710
@theworld6710 5 ай бұрын
@@caxshen That is…very incorrect 😂 I won’t break down all of it, but you’re mistaken in numerous areas. -I don’t believe you paid enough attention in Saga’s part of the story. She had massive impacts on the story. It was her actions that drove a massive amount of it, and her unique abilities that allowed them to succeed. -The upgrades aren’t useless, they’re meant to support, and not to be relied upon. I can agree the upgrades on Saga’s side can be underwhelming. But Wake’s upgrades can really help you out. -The enemies can be spongy, if you don’t know how to aim. But it’s pretty simple, break their shield, target their head. If the enemies are teleporting, you can easily shine the light on them to slow them. -A DEI demonstration? What? Do you think Santa is real too? The reasons for Saga’s change are well known. Get over it already. -Your play-through speaks to something. Can’t say it says anything about the game, but it says a lot about other things.
@caxshen
@caxshen 5 ай бұрын
@@theworld6710 nah you have to point the flashlight to specific spot to stun them as well, and in the mob fight it's usually a MESS. and you can still getting hit when dodge, the dodge distance is pathetically short. and my playthrough speak of other thing? what thing? racist hmm?
@JapanNights
@JapanNights 7 ай бұрын
dude, your mind place skit was 11/10. new subscriber here just for that. i was failing to put into words myself why saga's part of the game felt so tedious and boring, but your skit explained it perfectly 😂
@ArcadianWaheela
@ArcadianWaheela 6 ай бұрын
He really nailed exactly why the mind place ultimately just becomes this tiresome gimmick that really adds nothing to the game.
@Athkore
@Athkore 7 ай бұрын
The fact that Alan's story is told in such a mind bending dynamic way (even including a god damn musical) while Saga's largely involves sitting down with exposition is baffeling. Its like they wrote all of Alan's stuff and shoved an audience surrogate character to make the events more understandable.
@fictionnerd78
@fictionnerd78 5 ай бұрын
I can see your point, but for me, it was actually that stark contrast between the storytelling styles that actually made it interesting for me. You do a solid job explaining why it’s an issue for you, but that contrast instead of being jarring or distracting, made the experience feel more fresh and fairly balanced. But that’s just me personally.
@ScoutOW
@ScoutOW 2 ай бұрын
@@fictionnerd78 I agree with you, the whole point is that Alan is in a limbo-esque dark place and Saga is in a much more grounded world
@fictionnerd78
@fictionnerd78 2 ай бұрын
@@ScoutOW Yeah, I totally agree. And I think it’s also appropriate for the characters because Alan is trapped in an insanity inducing maze where nothing makes sense whereas Saga is simply a detective chasing down leads. For me, we NEED Saga’s story to keep everything somewhat grounded and to answer at least some of the questions that’ll inevitably arise.
@sebastiannienow6981
@sebastiannienow6981 7 ай бұрын
Have you played the Evil Within series? Would be curious to hear your thoughts
@ericgraham8975
@ericgraham8975 3 ай бұрын
That's a good one
@user-dl6sk1pn5d
@user-dl6sk1pn5d 2 ай бұрын
Seeing how big of a Survival Horror fan Mayo is, he would more than likely love the first game and (probably) dislike or even hate the second game and almost everything about it except for the entertaining artist villain dude.
@cookiescream1993
@cookiescream1993 7 ай бұрын
I mean even without the expansions the ending makes a lot of sense. There’s so many details you’ll miss on a first playthrough without context: Like during the musical Alice’s camera capturing wake as he attempts to escape. Hidden in plain site and on a first playthrough you don’t consider this…let alone how the musical in the dark place is actually choreographing Alan’s final descent you take to Bright Falls where the games first music kicks in.
@moddingaom5622
@moddingaom5622 7 ай бұрын
I completely missed the fact that the music in the dark place was connected with the concert at the lake. But it makes quite a lot of sense I guess.
@cookiescream1993
@cookiescream1993 7 ай бұрын
@@moddingaom5622 I only caught it on a second playthrough. But a lot of moments that seemed “off” had quite a tangible reasoning for being in the story. It’s kinda shocking how well these two stories interconnected on top of setting up more of the extended universe. The beauty in this game isn’t in the conclusion, but realizing how many pieces interlock with one another.
@MrPlaylistMan
@MrPlaylistMan 7 ай бұрын
Im still stuck on the fact that nobody gave an F about their own cops being killed and their sheriff disappearing right underneath them. or how saga goes in the woods to find Casey then completely forgets about him. most people so far have told me its bad story writing cuz Alan is very stressed as the writer but its a pretty bad cop out for the actual writers of Alan Wake 2
@brandostev0
@brandostev0 7 ай бұрын
@@MrPlaylistMan we need to keep in mind sagas story is like a day or 2, on top of that Alan wake being stressed so he writes bad is such a lame excuse xD, SPOILERS FOR THE FULL GAME Alan wake didn't write departure, scratch did and Alan wake scribbles out parts of the story and rewrites it in a frenzy because scratch at any moment could stop him from editing. so people going missing and nothing being said has a lot of reasons for happening, the Casey part, what? she doesn't forget? she cant find him but has things she needs to do to stop the world ending, she constantly asks if Casey has been found during that time period
@JayMaverick
@JayMaverick 7 ай бұрын
As someone who sails on the high seas: What exactly do you mean "logged in?"
@SayNilo
@SayNilo 7 ай бұрын
Great video bud. Could you do a story recap? I want to know what happens but im so bored of playing it I can't bring myself to finish it
@SeanGauseOfficial
@SeanGauseOfficial 7 ай бұрын
STORY SPOILERS: Alan and Saga decide on an ending to the story. They use the clicker to bring out the Dark Presence, then bait it into possessing Alan, and then shoot Alan in the head with a special 'light bullet'. Alan wakes up in the Dark Place, right where he started, remarking that it's "not a loop, it's a spiral". Saga, in the real world, attempts call her daughter Logan. The game fades to black and we hear the phone ringing, but Logan doesn't pick up. In short, Alan is exactly where he started and Saga gets no resolution to her story whatsoever. And her daughter might be dead. The end! (future DLC might expand on or explain this, idk).
@ReaperHunter23
@ReaperHunter23 7 ай бұрын
8:43 "My favorite part of the game was when I was not playing" was my main take away from the first game
@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos
@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos 7 ай бұрын
That’s why I can’t wait for them to remake max Payne 1&2. They’ll have that surreal story telling on top of great gameplay and it will be perfect
@barebarekun161
@barebarekun161 7 ай бұрын
This game is a lot better when you're not the one playing.
@tcwtfln_yt
@tcwtfln_yt 7 ай бұрын
I cannot believe Alan has Woken up for a second time
@Rodrigo-jd2wg
@Rodrigo-jd2wg 7 ай бұрын
This comment wins the section
@ericgraham8975
@ericgraham8975 3 ай бұрын
Should be called Alan sleeps cause he's bored as fuck
@Playitforthenarrative
@Playitforthenarrative 7 ай бұрын
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I like sagas parts and mind place better. I like the whole game probably one of my top ten in the last ten years. But I enjoyed my time playing, shooting, exploring, and puzzling as saga. Idk. It was fun.
@GracelessTarnished
@GracelessTarnished 7 ай бұрын
Shooting felt flimsy and the enemy design was uninspired. Literally fighting humans and dogs. For a horror game, that's very lacking. They clearly took inspiration from the recent RE games but it played nowhere near as good. A one and done game for me. But yeah, Sagas parts were definitely better.
@VSN-wb2ly
@VSN-wb2ly 7 ай бұрын
It's unique and something we rarely experience in modern games
@Theehannle
@Theehannle 7 ай бұрын
I have to agree with you. I had more fun playing as Saga.
@Theehannle
@Theehannle 7 ай бұрын
Saga was fun to play. Alan's part was more fun to watch.
@me22gigabyte
@me22gigabyte 7 ай бұрын
Over the shoulder camera really pissed me off tbh, like in God of War I had to lower the difficulty to the easiest because I’m tired of getting killed from the left and behind, I only just wanna finish the story at that point
@DashMatin
@DashMatin 7 ай бұрын
yeah i played the game and i agree on the points you made. add to it the fact that the game is extremely heavy on graphics side and needs a very beefy pc to run on 60 fps smoothly and you would be unsatisfied
@mravg79
@mravg79 7 ай бұрын
The first Alan Wake was also not well optimized. This is not specific to Alan Wake 2 but I hate when devs do not optimize the game and instead rely on reproduction algorithms (DLSS, FSR). Any time I take game which might not have ray and path tracing but the old SSR and cube maps it this means I can play with higher rendering resolution and better frame rate. Also I saw that option to turn film grain was missing this to me at least is a terrible omission.
@i_love_musique333
@i_love_musique333 4 ай бұрын
​@@mravg79This game is okay optimized for the futuristic features like software raytracing and other top notch graphics elements
@kadebass6187
@kadebass6187 7 ай бұрын
One of my gripes is the inventory system because at a certain point when you’re carrying items when you go to find certain items they just don’t spawn in. You can game the system by being “smart” with the shoebox (store the specific item you need away then loot out the nearby area of its stuff) but it even then still feels shallow. I actually really enjoy the game but there are issues notably not having gyro aim for controllers. I got the story much more clearly than you but the gameplay I’m roughly on the same page I feel more fondly for it because I was playing on a controller so the feeling of control was much harder than what would be on mouse and keyboard On the camera I just wish these types of games instead of moving in and zooming when in a tight space they’d maintain their distance but effectively speaking erase whatever is in their way it would allow for the close in feeling, that oppression all while still allowing it function
@brandostev0
@brandostev0 7 ай бұрын
i played on mouse and keyboard and it felt exactly the same as any other 3rd person shooter
@kadebass6187
@kadebass6187 7 ай бұрын
@@brandostev0 congrats
@brandostev0
@brandostev0 7 ай бұрын
@@kadebass6187 :D
@onceyougozach2607
@onceyougozach2607 7 ай бұрын
You ever played God Hand? It has a very ugly but functional solution to that zoomed in camera problem, just straight up making walls disappear if you're near them
@Dwesk
@Dwesk 7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah I agree, I feel like they wanted to do dynamic loot similar to RE4/RE4R but failed in that regard. I started the game on hard difficulty but the Nightingale segment kicked my ass and I decided to go back to normal, but of course, by mid game I ended up with constantly full inventory space and by late game I was even discarding items and I haven't used a single coffee (revival) charm. So it was kinda disappointing to see half the boxes opened be empty because I was overgeared. They should've probably still given you something extra or have some sort of currency you could dump your points into like RE4 or Control even.
@rainqd1889
@rainqd1889 7 ай бұрын
With the Mind Place, it is really annoying when it locks your progression behind pinning something on there and you can get a bit lost because of that but for the most part i found it incredibly helpful to keeping me up to tabs with what was going on through out the game, especially since it's so long. Plus very often her wording alone on some things would solve any misunderstandings i may have had. The worst part about her was waiting so long to find out that Ilmo and Jaako were leaders of the cult when you'd have already guessed it 6 hours into the game or smth
@mr.sinjin-smyth
@mr.sinjin-smyth 7 ай бұрын
The Mind Place is a pale imitation from the Mind Palace of the Sherlock Holmes games (Frogwares).
@rainqd1889
@rainqd1889 7 ай бұрын
sure but its also literally just a mind palace, its not fictional. It's a real memorization technique that people in the real world use, so there's not actually anything crazy about either of them@@mr.sinjin-smyth
@stephenclarkin4578
@stephenclarkin4578 7 ай бұрын
It kinda explains In the story that Saga, so caught up in following the manuscripts completely ignored her own detective instincts and plays along to the tune of the story. She even voices her anger and frustration about how obvious it was that they were the leaders when locked in the dark place. There’s also other things that start to occupy her mind more then the case. Her daughters fate, her own origins or the paranormal. I think it adds a lot to her characterisation that during the game it becomes less and less about what originally brought her there and how she allows herself to go down the rabbit hole
@dhanraj0958
@dhanraj0958 7 ай бұрын
You said it in your comment itself, you guessed it was Ilmo and Jaako, you weren't completely sure about it. Part of the fun is deducing evidence and finding about the cults intentions and actions and how it circled back to Ilmo and Jakko being the cult readers.
@m4tt-66
@m4tt-66 7 ай бұрын
if you get lost in those sections you most likely need to wear a helmet in most public places
@BrutalFoX.
@BrutalFoX. 6 ай бұрын
aw1 story was so much better, throughout the game it feels like reading a book, dark presence enemies felt more like shadow than they do in aw2, also in aw1 you could see the other characters are horrified by darkness and enemies but in aw2 they act like it's totally normal, in aw1 you're constantly running away from darkness with a flash light and more action packed gameplay, but aw2 walking simulator, watch some cutscenes, solve some mindless puzzles, kill 2 enemies every 1 hour, also aw2 gameplay feels like playing resident evil, and that mind place thing holy moly who's idea was that, and some parts of the game feels like they just copied a bunch of stuff from the the evil within, how could they make such boring game
@Leonn9000
@Leonn9000 7 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more with this review; half of an interesting game with Alan, half of a boring and uninspired survival horror game with Saga. The investigation was by far the worst I have seen in a video game, even story driven titles like Telltale Games or Quantic Dream productions were more interesting on that matter.
@Onimusashi85
@Onimusashi85 7 ай бұрын
I was disappointed that there wasn't more combat. As much as I like the story, actually fighting the enemies is what I really play games for. The games I come back to years later are because I enjoy the combat in some way.
@SeanGauseOfficial
@SeanGauseOfficial 7 ай бұрын
Right? They give you all these cool weapons and then there are like 10 enemies in the entire game
@Absoluuttinen_Totuus
@Absoluuttinen_Totuus 7 ай бұрын
Then play action games?💀 Tf
@chizu.iscold
@chizu.iscold 7 ай бұрын
@@Absoluuttinen_Totuus how about if games stop trying to be movies?
@Absoluuttinen_Totuus
@Absoluuttinen_Totuus 7 ай бұрын
@@chizu.iscold Why? Story-driven games are supposed to be like interactive movies - that's what people love about them. If that's not your cup of tea then don't play them bruh😭
@chizu.iscold
@chizu.iscold 7 ай бұрын
@@Absoluuttinen_Totuus it's not about "my cup of tea" because GOW Ragnarok, Dead Space Remake, exists. That game proves that you can have interesting stories + being cinematic while still having a fun gameplay.
@rishyrish
@rishyrish 7 ай бұрын
For the now guide thing for objectives and getting lost is a good thing at times but if your playing and don’t know if your doing a side quest or main quest and you get lost or have to figure out what’s going on it becomes frustrating to the point you just turn it off to go back later For the third person thing umm the answer is yes would you rather tank controls again or a frost person version resident evil made the entire format comes from RE so to change it wouldn’t be that format any longer
@-MostHated-
@-MostHated- 6 ай бұрын
I can see how many will not agree with this take, but it's spot on for me. I often wondered if Alan Wake 2 is even a game at all. By the end, I couldn't wait for it to be over. Especially Sagas investigation based mind place. Sit there for 20 min, being forced to hit the A button over and over to listen to the pieces of a story that is unique but also very predictable and convoluted. She's basically just repeating shit you already know. The problem is how they tied it to game play. You're often forced to go there to solve a problem whether you want to or not, which can be confusing. Next, you're forced to hit the A button over and over because it's a game, get it? The only twist in an uninteresting predictable story is an absurdly minor one I won't spoil here for anyone who hasn't gotten there yet. There is a major fight at the end of the game in a small area where several enemies are thrown at you, and this style of combat/camera isn't built for that. It's clumsy, frustrating, and lazy, IMO. Whatever you do, don't play that section in quality mode. You will have to switch to performance to even get past it. I don't prefer games that simply add more enemies to a situation just to ramp up the difficulty. Alan Wake 2 is not for everyone, and I've been surprised by all the praise it's getting. Graphically, it's great. It's one of the best Sims I've seen for giving you a feeling of being lost in the woods where the 1st Alan Wake tried to do and did well for its time. There is another specific section in Alan Wake 2 that is the reason it's getting all the love. Visually, it's very stunning, original, and unique. However, they make it hard to appreciate it more because once again, you're put in a situation with multiple enemies attacking you, and the game simply isn't built for that. It becomes tedious and frustrating. Remedy is just trying too many new things here. I'm betting there are two camps. You're either gonna love Alan Wake 2, or you're not. I don't see much middle ground here. It's shocking to me that it was being considered for GOTY.
@canalsuper5311
@canalsuper5311 7 ай бұрын
Mayo i did 100% of Control in Steam and i think it's a game you might like,the gameplay is fun you have a various options of weapons and abilities and you get them by the story or side missions, the story is very intriguing and mysterious and it's important to read at least some of the files you find around so you can understand better what's going on, for me the main issue is that the map can be confusing and i felt lost but as you said thats not an issue for you, i'm excited for your control video, i hope you like it.
@BIOJECT
@BIOJECT 7 ай бұрын
I 100% agree. I am very curious to know what he thinks of that game. It's like Metroid. Fantastic game.
@djukafox
@djukafox 7 ай бұрын
he is not going to like control.
@xNachtmahRx
@xNachtmahRx 7 ай бұрын
But the game doesn't force you into its mechanics and you can finish it with the default weapon mod. Literally unplayable bad game design that is also repetitive for whatever reason/s
@CENmassTER86
@CENmassTER86 7 ай бұрын
He probably wouldn't like control because it is action and he likes survival
@jeremyzak654
@jeremyzak654 7 ай бұрын
I wouldn't say the story was good in control. The lore presented in Control was great. The story, which is Jessie trying to find her brother, was pretty forgettable.
@gilbertlopez2333
@gilbertlopez2333 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s funny that it’s called the mindplace lol. Like you couldn’t find a better name for our supercops special detective place in her head
@brothersgrimm5438
@brothersgrimm5438 7 ай бұрын
That’s hilarious.. But its meant to be a take on “mind palace” shutuuuup 🤣
@distantsea
@distantsea 7 ай бұрын
Keeping in mind that they chose Bloober Team of all studios to adapt Silent Hill 2, I really don't think the remake is going to get a fair shake from most reviewers and fans of the original.
@HighFunctioningMedium
@HighFunctioningMedium 7 ай бұрын
Ooh oh that ending music. I know Ive heard it. What is it??
@Terron29
@Terron29 7 ай бұрын
Interesting review. Does not look like my kinda thing at all. I generally dislike super story focused stuff. I love finding letters and paintings and little messages and codecs and stuff in games where I can read it in my own time. I like a gameplay focus. The ghost enemies in this looks annoying. I appreciate that its doing its own thing though. Resi 1 remake remains king for me and silent hill 2.
@JugglernautNr9
@JugglernautNr9 7 ай бұрын
agree with you on everything you wrote
@lazyvoid7107
@lazyvoid7107 7 ай бұрын
​@@JugglernautNr9🤓
@14ElmStreet28
@14ElmStreet28 7 ай бұрын
there are collectibles in the game that are exactly like that
@Terron29
@Terron29 7 ай бұрын
@@14ElmStreet28 nice, I might check out out at some point when its cheap maybe. The linearity and narrative focus put me off a bit though thats by no means a flaw, simply a design choice.
@montecristosmith2343
@montecristosmith2343 7 ай бұрын
Yeah if the story is where all the effort went and the actual gameplay is mediocre to bad I pretty much skip and just watch the story cutscenes on YT. Treat it like the movie that it's trying to be (speaking in general, not about Alan Wake)
@Rekles
@Rekles 5 ай бұрын
I’m done with it on part 9 I think it is so boring and the case board is a joke this game is so slow
@NuStiuFrate
@NuStiuFrate 7 ай бұрын
12:00 YES! That drove me crazy. It's such a waste of time to find something out in the game, to then have to enter the mind place and put it up on the board. Just make it a jurnal entry automatically. Edit: Hah, i commented before the skit began. Absolutely brilliant!
@Andriej69
@Andriej69 7 ай бұрын
I've played first AW some time after the release (but before remaster) with both DLC's and I never returned to it after that one playthrough. I can already tell it's gonna be the same for the sequel - a one-time "experience"
@nickkalinay5653
@nickkalinay5653 7 ай бұрын
Immediate thumbs up for the F score due to needing an internet connection to play a single player game. We need to stop supporting studios and publishers that engage in this practice!
@shawnthomas6492
@shawnthomas6492 7 ай бұрын
U don’t need an internet connection to play the game… I am literally playing it without connection
@chrislair6832
@chrislair6832 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I was wondering what the hell they were even talking about
@elguitarTom
@elguitarTom 7 ай бұрын
Remedy have gotten pretentious and think they are the next David Lynch or something. They need to go back to Max Payne 1 roots = cheesy, fun, 10 % cutscenes and 90 % gameplay and not take themslf serious.
@violau8550
@violau8550 7 ай бұрын
I basically can see the game director "me me me" everywhere in this game.
@i_love_musique333
@i_love_musique333 2 ай бұрын
You quite literally don't know what pretentious means, pleb
@i_love_musique333
@i_love_musique333 2 ай бұрын
​@@violau8550Sorry to hear both of you have been filtered so hard
@thefinalboss2403
@thefinalboss2403 6 ай бұрын
Great example of "should have been a movie". It's like Kojima. Just make a movie instead of a bunch of boring walking simulators full of famous actors. It's how we get "games" like Death Stranding.
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 4 ай бұрын
Wrong Kojima games are actually fun to play and fun to watch.
@TheCosmicGuy0111
@TheCosmicGuy0111 27 күн бұрын
I mean depends really, I think Alan wake is a great game as you said it feels like an interactive movie. Now to be fair most games like that I really don’t like. But a few are definitely good. It’s definitely not for everyone!
@Lonely_Gamer85
@Lonely_Gamer85 7 ай бұрын
Hey Mayo, I'm curious to know what you think of Max Payne 3.
@BingBong422
@BingBong422 6 ай бұрын
As someone who is more of a casual gamer rather than a hardcore survival horror fan, I highly recommend that everyone plays this game. The narrative, art direction, and overall game direction makes this one of the most original, creative, and ambitious games I've ever played. While some of the overall survival horror elements may fall flat for some fans of the genre, I think it's important to support AAA games that take on this much risk and allow this much creative freedom. This game is not selling well and I urge anyone who is even slightly interested to buy it.
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 4 ай бұрын
There’s nothing risky about a game just trying to be meta. That’s been done to death. Could you shill any harder for Sweet Baby?
@i_love_musique333
@i_love_musique333 4 ай бұрын
​​@@ExpertContrarianIf "meta" is all you took from this then you didn't get it All while shilling for self serious pulp writer like Kojima LOL This game mogs DS aesthetically into oblivion
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 4 ай бұрын
@@i_love_musique333you say as you shill for Sweet Baby Inc ESG points 😂😂😂 try harder
@juanmanikings
@juanmanikings 3 ай бұрын
@@i_love_musique333 LOL aesthetically better than DS? one the most stupid comments i've heard like how what a stupid comment is for comments like this i hate modern gaming community Kojima is vastly better game designer but what do you know about game design modern gamers only care about graphics and cinematics
@i_love_musique333
@i_love_musique333 3 ай бұрын
@@juanmanikings wow, what a spaz out LOL DS has corny soundtrack, dialogue that's nothing but constant exposition, goofy yet completely self serious elements to it etc AW2 on the other hand is absolutely sublime for a game
@xXDeiviDXx
@xXDeiviDXx 7 ай бұрын
Have you tried the Evil Within series?the first one is pretty linear as you described Alan Wake 2 in this video but the sequel has open world sections with some tough enemies roaming around so you'd be forced to evade them at the risk of encountering them later due to resource scarcity.
@realnickhiro
@realnickhiro 7 ай бұрын
I dont think he would enjoy the first one. He would most likely prefer the second one but I still think he would critism a lot specially the AI.
@brentloy131
@brentloy131 7 ай бұрын
Evil Within 2 showed me what an open-world survival horror game could be. Love the freedom it gives man
@Madderthanjoker
@Madderthanjoker 7 ай бұрын
bruh i had to stop 30min in for evilwithin2 with how sloppy the controls felt
@bruhder5854
@bruhder5854 7 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure he mentioned something about them before and I reckon he already played through them
@aj_gotsmoke
@aj_gotsmoke 7 ай бұрын
The evil within 1 is waaaaay better than the sequel
@ProIshaanPuri
@ProIshaanPuri 7 ай бұрын
No upgrade only worked in older titles like SH and OG RE because how small maps were.
@drgonzo123
@drgonzo123 5 ай бұрын
I felt like that joke-“This could have been an e-mail,” but instead it was-“this could have just been a tv show.” Don’t get me wrong, I love my story games. Like all of Sony’s first party output. But this just didn’t feel like the video game parts were very engaging. The story beats were odd and entertaining, but you had to wade through frustrating level puzzles in the Alan sections, and subpar survival horror with Saga. I wasn’t as taken with it as most people apparently were. It was interesting, but definitely not GOTY material. At least for me.
@chris_player2995
@chris_player2995 5 ай бұрын
my thought exactly imo the story is really interesting, graphics VA but gameplay...is not good I can see Alan Wake 2 as a TV Show (and seeing how well known IPs are getting one now if Alan wake does i wont he surprised i'd watch it for sure)
@aleksiautio8677
@aleksiautio8677 7 ай бұрын
As long time gamer and survival horror games fan and long time resident evil fan, i have To say that i enjoy alan wake 2, worth a wait sequel, just amazing experience. My favorite game this year, and this year has been great for video games. Im so proud of remedy, sorry To hear that you didint like it so much, and that mind place joke was good 😃. i heard that they are making new game plus, there will be some new stuff added, and the 2 dlc coming next year. sry English not the best little bit rusty
@ronthorn3
@ronthorn3 7 ай бұрын
Yeah I have to agree, it’s not your usual RE survival game, it’s kinda its own thing, and I almost hated it until it grabbed me. I also hated twin peaks until I loved it.
@mikemidwood9661
@mikemidwood9661 7 ай бұрын
Immersion broken when the soda wasn't the Dr. Pepper won from the RE8 piano puzzle.
@CrossplatformGamerMasterRace
@CrossplatformGamerMasterRace 7 ай бұрын
You can disable achievements by changing privacy of your achievement list to only friends or private.
@RyanKarolak
@RyanKarolak 7 ай бұрын
Overall, I think Alan Wake 2 is pretty great and was worth the wait as a fan of the original games and Control. You make some fair criticism, although I don't agree with them all, or think that they are as bad as you make it. For me, its weaknesses are greatly outweighed by its strengths. I agree that the pacing could have been adjusted as it seems like you are spending more time than you need to walk from one point to another - but it didn't bother me enough to hold it against it. It moves along decently enough and give a chance to build ambiance and atmosphere verses if you ran through everything. It's not Control and doesn't try to be.
@ezzahhh
@ezzahhh 7 ай бұрын
To think I was just about to buckle and buy the game off EPIC since I was a fan of the first game. Wouldn't have thought in a million years that they would make a 100% Singleplayer game like Alan Wake 2 always online if it wasn't for your review. Not good enough to bribe developers in order to prevent them from selling their game on other storefronts but always online now as well? Hopefully that's something that is rectified when it comes to Steam but right now that leaves a very bad taste in my mouth for the game in general.
@Calraath
@Calraath 6 ай бұрын
I know this is a month later but I was able to play Alan 2 entirely offline on epic, you just gotta click a box for it to work
@TECTONICSMASH
@TECTONICSMASH 7 ай бұрын
As someone who didn't know this channel, that skit 3/4ths of the way through caught me tf off guard LMAO
@snakekingblues3017
@snakekingblues3017 7 ай бұрын
I stop playing near the final act Cuz one of the side puzzle might have glitch And i need to get the father doll but its not showing up Now i gotta wait till they patch this hopefully😢
@alucarddracula7
@alucarddracula7 7 ай бұрын
Oh good. I had heard good things about AW2 so I looked up some gameplay and thought “none of this looks fun.” Glad it isn’t just me.
@roscosimmons-shorts8050
@roscosimmons-shorts8050 7 ай бұрын
This reminds me of the Gmanlives review. He by his own admission didn't understand what was happening half the time and was upset he couldn't shoot more stuff. And honestly, that's fine. It's just not a game for you.
@xiaochenliu2326
@xiaochenliu2326 7 ай бұрын
Mayo, are you still gonna review severed steel?
@jimmykuhns1613
@jimmykuhns1613 7 ай бұрын
Mayo, I just finished Onimusha Warlords, you should try it! It's basically samurai resident evil
@MrSwac31
@MrSwac31 7 ай бұрын
really wasn't expecting Mayo to do a video on this one.
@m.a.p.5541
@m.a.p.5541 7 ай бұрын
Spot on. I disagree with the game becoming good but i feel your being generous and i respect that. As a game from a director with 30 years of experience and a team of 400 people this is abject failure.
@violau8550
@violau8550 7 ай бұрын
I think any real gamers and game designer would see that this game is totally "one man show project", a lot of things is what the game director INSIST to put on (like the music scene that make people smile, apparently people play horror games is for smiling) without caring much about gameplay system, hell, even story a lot of places do not make sense and got lazy (autosy without glove, dead bodies on the floor nobody care).
@m.a.p.5541
@m.a.p.5541 7 ай бұрын
@@violau8550 100% agreed The noglove autopsy drove me NUTS
@violau8550
@violau8550 7 ай бұрын
@m.a.p.5541 its a very very basic, and also its start of the game, yet they can make so many mistake (beside those absurd dialogue and yet people keep defend it that people are acting weird because of the script, hey, thought Saga not affected by it??), overall I don't think they really pour so much love in it, hey, they forgot to let Saga wear glove but yet able to put musical scene and tons of Sam poster everywhere, talk about narcissistic.
@m.a.p.5541
@m.a.p.5541 7 ай бұрын
@@violau8550 Its crazy how much all this lazy nonsense is defended. Glad im not the only sane person being super disappointed by this
@violau8550
@violau8550 7 ай бұрын
@@m.a.p.5541 I think anyone who play games and read a lot would spot all those things, i mean, even someone who watch a lot of TV shows should knows that's a very basic mistake due to laziness. But if you notice, a lot of people keep repeat the same wordings, like "GOTY" and "Masterpiece", i think it started from game reviewers, then a lot of people also follow and repeat the same thing. And another thing is, those people who are praising it always think they love this game, because they are so smart that they understand the story and those who hate it dont. I dont know the game, but apparently in real life, people seem affected by some scripted things from marketing gimmick by following it and repeat it without knowing it.
@GodOfWarConnoisseur
@GodOfWarConnoisseur 3 ай бұрын
The skit is literally dead on perfect & it makes it even more infuriating that Remedy gets credit as being "brilliant writers". It reminds of how kendrick lamar gets called a lyrical genius yet only rhymes one syllable words like Dr.Suess. The masses' delusional perception just throws salt in the wounds of dissapoint.
@jordongee2347
@jordongee2347 7 ай бұрын
Oh good, skipped epic games purchase, glad I heard that, I wont support offline game required connection. I do find it strange the run speed was a concern, coming from RE and SH, seemed on par for any backtracking speed, particularly the original RE series. Other than that, all pretty spot on, I did back the FOV up in the files, but, still fought the camera a lot. Despite all of it though, prolly one of the best games I've played in a good while. I'm REALLY hoping if Bloober in struggling though, this will give them some good direction, I really hope they don't mess that up.
@jayros4269
@jayros4269 7 ай бұрын
They should have just focused on Alan and not included a second character. Also, I was hoping we would get a proper survival horror game, but it looks like that's not really the case.
@lukaszzylik4437
@lukaszzylik4437 7 ай бұрын
Alan Wake 2 is my GOTY. I know its not for everyone and thats cool. I love this crazy weird little AAA corner Remedy carved out for themselves. Everything in the game is deliberate. For instance you said that the New York Alex Casey stuff feels disconnected, but the New York cult of the word mirrors the cult of tree. The three murders are three cultists becoming Taken (for instance the two cops, Mulligan and Thornton, who became Taken in Sagas reality are the two cops who Alex Casey is investigating the deaths of at the theater. In Sagas world, the two cops threw a body down the well, in Alans reality they threw a body down a chute, etc. Everything is deliberate and thought out pretty well. There's a lot here for us lore and story analysis nerds. I really enjoyed your review though. You were very precise and had genuinly good critiques and your Mind Place almost made me choke on my drink.
@bopsie55
@bopsie55 7 ай бұрын
Also the cult of the word existed in "the real world" as well. Its explianed in the dlc for the first game and its constantly brought up in the fbc files and newspaper clippings around the world so its hinting that alan was the one that caused it not scratch.
@AbernathyCrimson
@AbernathyCrimson 7 ай бұрын
No physical copy, no buy.
@mackthisarrowhearth295
@mackthisarrowhearth295 Ай бұрын
My problem with Alan Wake is, for all the creative ideas, its implementation is rather basic for how long it makes you wait for their impact. Most exceptions to this are literally recycled elements from its predecessor. To me, this comes as close as a playable Netflix adaptation as possible, and as that, its great. I just find those adaptations lacking.
@jax6815
@jax6815 7 ай бұрын
The skit about sagas detective board was the best part great stuff.
@underthemayo
@underthemayo 7 ай бұрын
That was fun to do. And time consuming.
@JH-dx9um
@JH-dx9um 7 ай бұрын
@@underthemayo Its not really that time consuming if knowing how it works, but I can see lot of people spending quite a bit of time there. When on first play through I spend more close to 30 minutes there, since I collected everything on it, but then I again it took me 30 hours to get through the game 100%. Then on hard mode playthrough when I already knew the stuff, I managed to get the board stuff on the wall way less than 5 minutes total, and you only really need to do the main investigation stuff at all, rest will solve themselves if the player is not bothered.
@714acedeck
@714acedeck 7 ай бұрын
I agree so much with your point about presentation. There's so many Triple A games that all look the same these days, and it is painfully boring. The power of technology is robbing people of their creativity, and it is robbing new generations of the variety of experiences we got to have 20 years ago. Not always good for sure, but plenty of them were, managed to be amazing and unique at the same time.
@neurotic_doll
@neurotic_doll 6 ай бұрын
I don't think it's the technology robbing people. It's more so people lacking the balls to actually go into a different artistic direction than following the trend. Technology brings so much to everyone, it's how the individual uses it and pushes the boundaries.
@Funko777
@Funko777 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, except there was good art direction in this and I hated this game. New York was done extremely well and bright falls had great environmental art as well. Their last game control's art direction is literally only rivaled (well beaten by) by the likes of FromSoftware and a masterclass to most other AAA devs. Art and visuals aside AW2 sucked ass.
@barebarekun161
@barebarekun161 7 ай бұрын
Mind Place killed the game for me. Never seen a AAA horror so obsessed with monologing before, clearly there is a better way to engage than that. It drags the game to snail's pace. Just whole lot of nothing going on the first hour just talking and very slowly pick up the pieces and stick them to the wall. I'm pretty sure the game will get better later on but I just couldn't stomach anymore of all the loaded expositions to get to the good stuff.
@guyjackson4165
@guyjackson4165 7 ай бұрын
I hated Saga’s mind place, but aside from that I found Saga’s side of the story way more engaging than Alan’s. She’s in reality, or some version of it, and she has real stakes (or stakes she thinks are real) and that just automatically makes her story more interesting to me than whatever is happening to Alan in la la land where nothing is real and there are no rules and nothing really matters. The only thing I liked about Alan’s side was the ability to change scenes by “rewriting” them.
@reaperofthegrey7294
@reaperofthegrey7294 7 ай бұрын
im a huge remedyverse fan. and although it built a lot on the connected universe of control, and hints at quantum break. its overall mixed i really wish there was more combat. especially alans musical which should of been like fighting the concert of alan wake 1 or ashtray maze in control its waves of enemies to awesome poets of the fall(old gods of asgard) music. which saga gets her own with the old gods. near the end. the raceswap of saga is weird from the video of quantum break . i guess alan retconned her since he can do that now. but her characterization isnt interesting like alan. im hoping with the release of ng+ which adds more scenes and ending, and nightmare difficulty which im hoping nightmare bumps up enemy spawn rate just a tad. plus the 2 dlcs it will give a better ending and that they will also probably blow minds just like how the AWE dlc of control blew minds for alan wake fans
@overbanked
@overbanked 5 ай бұрын
The parody case board scene had me rollin!😂
@dankforest
@dankforest 7 ай бұрын
Its crazy how diffrent control is. I havent played alan wake but they just dont seem like my kinda game. Control was a lot of fun. The combat is 7 out of 10. But the story is super good. My only complaint of control is how much time i spent trying to find WHERE to go. There is just a whole ass building to explore. Alot of time spent running back through same locations is nuts. And most times i dont want to refight everything over and over again. But overall great game
@theguyinthere
@theguyinthere 7 ай бұрын
i imagine saga getting her own spin off like a playable x files or twin peaks style detective show.
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 4 ай бұрын
🤮
@atakiyuuto1275
@atakiyuuto1275 7 ай бұрын
At the start of the Video, if you hit Left Arrow Several times in a row @ 0:00 you will see that Alan agrees with Mayo before he even speaks. Or he head bangs in excitement at the video, however you wanna see it.~
@Vic2point0
@Vic2point0 6 ай бұрын
I liked the first game for the combat and environment. Seems that both are greatly diminished in this one, so will probably pass.
@scottsummers4154
@scottsummers4154 7 ай бұрын
Idk man, Alan Wake two is tied with Re4 remake as game of the year for me. If you rush through any part of this game, you’ll suffer for it.
@ExpertContrarian
@ExpertContrarian 4 ай бұрын
Rush through the game? Literally impossible.
@Miyakolover
@Miyakolover 4 ай бұрын
While I don't think RE4 Remake is survival horror, from what I have seen, Alan Wake 2 is closer to an interactive movie with some gameplay bits inbetween
@ThurstonHerbert-og1eq
@ThurstonHerbert-og1eq 3 ай бұрын
I suffered reading your comment lumping in Resi 4 with Alan Wake... God help you lol
@scottsummers4154
@scottsummers4154 3 ай бұрын
@@ThurstonHerbert-og1eq lol, I went back to Re4 after Alan Wake. RE4 remake is a far superior game. I really was tripping.
@ThurstonHerbert-og1eq
@ThurstonHerbert-og1eq 3 ай бұрын
@@scottsummers4154 God already helped you. It's a miracle! JK lmao but I'm glad you've seen the light my friend. Take care
@videoarbeiter
@videoarbeiter 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for the spot on parody of the Alan Wake 2 “mind palace”. May be the most frustrating game I ever completed. How the hell did this win a Game Award for best narrative?
@TOPFive5-uz6nl
@TOPFive5-uz6nl 7 ай бұрын
I really don't know but movie games are becoming more popular and selling more copies than actual games That's why everyone want to do these movie games rather then actual challenging and creative level design games Red dead redemption 2 Witcher 3 God of war and god of war ragnarok Last of us Uncharted 4 etc Campire a extradinary level design of pandora temple from god of war 1 to new ones The cretivity is dying When games being good cretivity games they are not that popular when games being more repitative and empty they are getting more popular Only modern games where we will get actual challenging fun exprenciene are Bloodborne Sekiro Sifu Remake of both resident evil 2 and 4 etc These gamers are so fun to play then movie cinematic crap games
@violau8550
@violau8550 7 ай бұрын
SEKIRO, bloodborne are from Miyazaki, which a game director care about gameplay more than anything, and he dont like those game which try to be movie, he said that a game is a game, not a movie.
@RP-mp4ow
@RP-mp4ow 4 ай бұрын
Lol it sounds like you actuallg enjoyed the game more than me. Nothing really felt rewarding in the game for me. I typically like pretentious, head up ones own ass kinda media, but Alan Wake 2 just didn't feel like a tight, purposeful narrative. The nursing home section was, to me, the shining apex of the game though. It was so masterfully crafted- i wish the rest of the game was even CLOSE to being on par with that
@thewanderingartists
@thewanderingartists 4 ай бұрын
You'll have more fun playing control
@RP-mp4ow
@RP-mp4ow 4 ай бұрын
@@thewanderingartists I've played it. It's great! I don't remember much of the story, but it was satisfactory and the gameplay felt SO GOOD
@wjveryzer7985
@wjveryzer7985 7 ай бұрын
Was SO EXCITED for this game. I LOVED the combat in QB and control SO much. This tho.....theres barely any
@BU7TER
@BU7TER 7 ай бұрын
That's cuz QB and Control were action games. This is a survival psycological horror game. The other two was supposed to make you feel powerful. So the gun play is aggressive. AW2 is supposed to make you feel small and weak compared, so that means limited ammo and a higher chance of dying.
@SPG8989
@SPG8989 7 ай бұрын
Well that's your fault for not understanding the fact Sam said several times he was making a psychological survival horror. Of course some of you clowns have to have non stop action in your face.
@wjveryzer7985
@wjveryzer7985 7 ай бұрын
Stupid me! I'd say the description of psych survival horror is a tad misleading. I'd also say that if you loved Alan wake 1, you might not love this game. I didn't hate it though! I just find these devs to be one of the best in the biz as far as making games that actually keep me engaged, look incredible and most important FUN. Personally, it just felt like the detective aspect was pushed on me too much, to consistently. If you cut a section here, trimmed one there, I think the pacing could have been much better. @@SPG8989
@Blake_Mills
@Blake_Mills 7 ай бұрын
Great review. Have all the same gripes I had and a few more. I still think I liked it more because I truly enjoy the first game and control. So I was invested in story. But that mind place is a fucking wreck as far I’m concerned. Also hate that it’s tap to enter, and map is hold to open. I ended up in mind place on accident so many times. Also idk why but all of my enemies had the weak points on back. Is it random? because I saw you have them on the front in some areas. I also preferred flashlight aim in first game compared to crosshair. This might be my most disappointing game of year. Shame cuz I’ve been begging for it for 13yrs.
@Blake_Mills
@Blake_Mills 7 ай бұрын
Also guns just seem weak. Way more bullets needed to kill, and the guns just felt more impactful and loud in first game.
@lazyvoid7107
@lazyvoid7107 7 ай бұрын
​@@Blake_Millswhich is good
@TheAce24
@TheAce24 7 ай бұрын
Agreed. I absolutely LOVED AW1. I think the game is one of the best ever made. But with AW2 I was kind of disappointed, mostly with the forced addition of Saga. Why do I care about her? I want to play as Alan. Also the mind place really took away from things in my opinion. It really broke the immersion.
@fictionnerd78
@fictionnerd78 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@TheAce24I can definitely see your perspective and it’s very reasonable, but for me, having Saga as an extra protagonist serves a few important purposes: A: It keeps the gameplay fresh by contrasting Saga’s sections with Alan’s B: It showcases consequences and stakes by showing how Alan’s actions affect the outside world. C: It fleshes out the world more and it makes it feel more fully realized, which, imho, given how suffocating in nature the Dark Place is, both narratively and tonally/atmospherically, I think is very important.
@David050298
@David050298 7 ай бұрын
I agree with nearly everything you said, but all the cons had a substantially less negative effect on my overall experience with the game compared to yours. More of a case of differing severity than differing taste.
@HansDampf-bt8jy
@HansDampf-bt8jy 7 ай бұрын
I love how they literally just copied the HUD and inventory screen from the RE remakes. But I thought we would see a Mayo video about the RoboCop game, especially after the recent other RoboCop videos.
@vizerextasy7483
@vizerextasy7483 7 ай бұрын
Who the hell plays a remedy game expecting it to be fast paced? 😂
@metroplex29
@metroplex29 7 ай бұрын
Control...
@Fedor_Kisliakov
@Fedor_Kisliakov 7 ай бұрын
Max Payne...
@jd2792
@jd2792 7 ай бұрын
Alan wake 1
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 7 ай бұрын
Alan wake remastered was great fun in both gameplay and story. Aw2 has the story but they forgot to put in the gameplay
@2k7podge2k7
@2k7podge2k7 7 ай бұрын
Is there spoilers in this video can anybody tell me before I start watching?
@lazy-a-ile8608
@lazy-a-ile8608 3 ай бұрын
I've come to the conclusion that Remedy just either doesn't know how to write women of it's the Sweet Baby stink that makes them boring and lifeless, Control had the same issue but at least the game play was good enough to get me to see it till the end. Alan Wake 1 was too long for it's own good as it was but at least it was decent enough to play. I'll leave you with a hot take, Max Payne 1 & 2 are the only legit good AAA games Remedy has made, rest is mediocre or bad.
@DizzySplits
@DizzySplits 7 ай бұрын
the game sadly also has no replay value since you HAVE to go to the mind place in order to progress in certain places, even if you know exactly where you would need to go/do next. Makes it a bad game to speedrun as well. There's not enough focus on replayability on big blockbuster games like these nowadays sadly. Hate to see it
@Lightsaglowllc
@Lightsaglowllc 7 ай бұрын
Just finished the game and it’s my personal GOTY. However, it’s very weird and very imperfect. With that said, it’s so damn ambitious.
@RoshGG
@RoshGG 6 ай бұрын
i'd never play other Remedy games, AW2 was my first one and i absolutely love it. I'm ready to play AW1 and CONTROL
@user-xf5ej5od8f
@user-xf5ej5od8f 6 ай бұрын
Max Payne?
@dimitriskarolidis3339
@dimitriskarolidis3339 7 ай бұрын
Alan wake 1 for it's time was a masterpiece one of my favourite game of 7th generation but in my opininon it doesn't age well now even in the alan wake remasterd to apreciate the first Alan Wake fully you should have played it in the 7th generation not later as for Alan Wake 2 I did play it but I didn't manage to finish it due to a game breaking bug in the entrance hotel loby with the echo..nice job remedy...
@bbcraz1226
@bbcraz1226 7 ай бұрын
Always online on PC, no physical copy on console, DEI race swapped bait and switch lead, mid gameplay, mostly a walking simulator... 10/10 in current year gaming
@galeforcemusic
@galeforcemusic 7 ай бұрын
Good video. I liked the game myself but you raise some fair criticisms. Personally though, I have to say that I enjoyed Saga's parts a lot more than Alan's, both in story and gameplay, and I disagree with your sentiment that the game is too long. Aside from the disappointing endgame chapters (that aren't very long) I thought that the game was surprisingly devoid of filler.
@coolmacatrain9434
@coolmacatrain9434 7 ай бұрын
Ha ha! real life has become a south park episode "Put a black chick in it and make her gay and lame .... " ha ha!
@claytonweaver7335
@claytonweaver7335 7 ай бұрын
I suspect you'll like Control more than the Alan Wake games but I also suspect the things it does wrong will upset you more, too. There was a good framework for a combat system and story but its kinda mid at both
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