The amount of hate this channel gets is unreal. Vegans can't take a little constructive criticism? She didn't say anything fallacious or unfair in this video. In fact I agree with her. There is no one size suits all diet. People have different dietary requirements.

I didn't know that vegan couple commented that to someone suffering from depression. Absolutely despicable

It is really dangerous to tell people they don't need their medications, especially when you're not a doctor. This is just ridiculous of TVC. That is my biggest issue with veganism in general, that people actually believe this stuff. But, of course, even speaking about it in the vegan community gives you severe backlash in the community.

I know this may sound crazy,but I prefer taking medical,nutritional,or mental health advice from a licensed professional with years of higher education than some random vegan couple on KZfaq.Crazy I know

Depression is a chemical imbalance. I was depressed for a couple of years and at one point I became vegan and I was still depressed. Up until last year when I went to a doctor and took pills for a couple of months. Now I'm depression free and still a vegan, but that has nothing to do with my diet...

about a year ago I was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and that was about three months after going vegan. I heard a lot of people say that going vegan helps with mental illnesses but it didn't work for me I still till this day take a shit ton of Medications. I hate it that people like freelee, that vegan couple and more are saying veganism cures depression, they are giving people false hopes!!!

If Saara reads this: I started having problems with my colon after going vegan two years ago. After finding out I react bad to fiber, which also developed into ulcerative colitis/procitis (Irritable Bowel Disease), I went to a clinical nutritionist. She told me to eat veeeery differently from what a lot of these KZfaqrs say. I also got my eyesight damaged prior to my colon problems, probably due to the lack of thiamine. After following my nutritionist's advice, my symptoms reversed greatly, but I still have little bit of damage to my eyesight (currently at 90-95%). Here is what my nutritionist told me: Eat more soluble fiber (cooked oats, white rice, white bread, husk, etc) and cook your food (stews & soups). Cooking the food, softens the fiber and don't aggravate the already irritable area in your colon. Don't eliminate oil, but keep it low (1-2 tablespoons a day) and use healthy alternatives (plant-based: olive, canola, etc, but not tropical oils: coconut, etc ). Stay away from added preservations ending with -ol. Last, but not least, take a multi vitamin. She told me also to experiment and I've found out that also cutting out/reducing alcohol, coffee, bread, and not using hot spices (cayenne pepper, chili, etc) REALLY helped!! Animal products don't contain fiber so I totally get why you go back to eating animals, that was my first instinct also. I'm still vegan though, but if you're going to eat meat, make sure it's lean cuts. You want to minimize the saturated fat and keep fat in general low. My advice after getting sick twice: don't listen to KZfaqrs!!! Go to an expert, meaning someone who has an education on nutrition ^_- Best of luck to you!!

I think I found a unicorn. A vegan who is not condescending.

Yes, and also relevant to mental health. There seems to be a lot of unqualified and/or unsubstantiated mental health advice on KZfaq. Telling people cavalierly to stop taking medication is dangerous advice.

The title may seem rather pugnacious, but just have a look at their tumblr. It's full to the brim with pseudoscience. I've included several examples in the description.

It's just so frustrating because those who "fail" on a vegan diet know what is best for them and their body and the Vegan Couple and others just don't seem to grasp that people are trying and making good efforts.

I'm vegan, and had a long, long history of stomach issues, but in the main they cleared up after 1 month of having no animal products. But in my boyfriend's case, his stomach is getting slightly worse since going vegan. People are different.

Videos by The Vegan Couple are really hard to watch. Actually, just looking at them is hard.

For some people the food they eat is their identity.

The shitting thing reminds me of Freelee telling people they should be pissing like 12 times a day. Once I realized to just go with my instinct and drink water when I felt like it, I could finally sit through a movie at the theater without my bladder dying and be a normal, functioning person.

Who the fu*k even are these people? I've never watched their videos, but they seem so smug. Reminds me of Fully Raw Kristina. Anecdotes and personal experience ≠ expertise!!!!!!!!!!

I sat through a Kevin Bacon Egg commercial for this. It was three minutes long. #commitment

Unfortunately most vegan youtubers or The big ones (minus yourself) chose to ignore basic human psychology, freelee for example "you don't have to like me you just have to hear me" .. No one has to hear you, and the less they like you the less they'll be likely to here it. Or if they do chose to hear, it'll be to mock. And they chose to ignore 1000's of years of culture, of the 100's of diets that people are capable of living on perfectly well many not not being vegan (I don't think any of the blue zones are completely vegan though low in animal products) basically, they over simplify everything, and it pushes people away.

i completely agree with you here but can you do a video about the bias that some doctors have when it comes to telling vegans to revert back to an omni diet. i have personal experience with this. i had perfect test results, felt great, and was fully informed but my doctor told me "you at least need to drink milk for calcium"... instead of maybe talking about all the plant based sources of calcium.

i used to like that vegan couple in the beginning of my vegan journey but now i realised that they don't do any good for the vegan movement and that they mainly plant fears in people's minds (coffee is evil, oil is evil, salt is evil, cooked foods are evil....basically everything except for their recommend diet is going to kill you... 😑) i unsubbed from them many months ago and hope that they won't gain popularity in the future

You should make rational vegan tshirts! lol I wanted to get a vegan tshirt and was going to get one from TVC but they seemed a bit too aggressive and cult-like. 😬

I have actually had kinda the same experience as Saara. I ate vegan for a couple of weeks and only got less energy and felt bad. I found out I got many food intolerances. Especially for raw fruits (including tomato and a little bit with avocado) And if you got problems with your intestens then beans are not a great thing to start eating a lot either >.< I think it's better for me to go slowly into veganism. I personally start with being a vegetarian and am finding out what works for me and what doesn't. Then I will transit into vegan in my own way, so that I probably won't get sick again. The whole: oh now I go immediatly 100% into vegan without having any idea what to eat, is maybe not the most wise thing to do for people with food allergies/intolerances/intestine problems. (maybe not wise for anyone, if you want to be vegan for longer then 3-6 months)

Yeah, I always thought Raw Kristina has to be logging a lot of toilet time.

That Vegan Couple's response to Kathleen Lights wasn't *too* terrible, but the part that made me twitch was when they talked about the cost of a vegan diet. Should people beat on Kathleen because she can afford to cut out dairy and meat? No. But should we be aware that some people live in dire poverty, in food deserts, etc.? Yes, of course. I'm glad we have so many channels and resources that help people with affordable vegan meal plans and easy recipes, but not everybody has ready access to those foods or even the internet. And the idea that veganism can cure all problems, including stomach issues, for everyone needs to stop. I deal with IBS, and there are some vegan staples I can't eat, like avocado (ugh so sad) and chickpeas (whyyyy). And when I mention this, some vegans get very defensive and say, "Well, you just need to keep trying! Eventually, your stomach will *heal* enough for you to eat them!" ...no, that's not how this works. In fact, that could be dangerous for people who have allergies or are intolerant to certain foods. If going vegan makes you feel much better, than I am so happy for you! But it's not a cure-all for everyone and everything.

So to preface my comment: I am a sustainability advocate and try to live as close to a zero-waste lifestyle as possible. That said, I also have battled disordered eating for most of my life. As a broke college student, I tried to go vegetarian to further lessen my impact on the planet.. to a disastrous effect on my body. As a normally very slim person, I dropped to a scary weight within less than a month due to my disorder, lack of funds, and general lack of knowledge about proper plant based eating. I had, and still have to, eat animal products again to get necessary calories, protein, etc because I cannot restrict my diet at the weight I’m currently at. Which is frustrating, because I would love to eventually go back to plant based. HOWEVER! The moral of my comment is that if you have a passion for the environment but can’t go plant based for whatever reason, that is NOT the end-all be-all of environmentalism like Freely and That Vegan Couple like to proclaim. It’s all about living within your means and being mindful. I can’t be vegan but I CAN do other things to help the planet, such as local litter pickups, climate marches, minimizing plastic use, and transitioning to zero waste products. Its all about doing what you can and making changes where you are able to. Love your videos💛

Actually, people with IBD (Crohn's/UC) can go to the bathroom more than 20 times a day. I kinda wonder whether Saara has IBD, because doctors frequently tell IBD patients to limit fiber because it's irritating to the gut.

I don't understand why anybody who is not that person's doctor, would tell someone to stop medication. It's irresponsible and dangerous. It could be misconstrued as medical advice from a non professional and lawsuit worthy on top of potentially hurting someone.

I never thought that could have so many crazy vegans in America... I mean... Here in Brazil most of the vegans I met are cool people, and they don't bother others, like that couple on the video do. Seens like there will always have some super fanatic vegans around. And this is sad...

Valid points made. I've had IBS for 2-3 years and can vouch that going vegan can make symptoms worse if you're not careful what you eat. By eating vegan you will tend to exposure yourself to higher FODMAP foods which can cause digestive distress. I would recommend any IBS sufferers struggling with a vegan diet try a low FODMAP diet (guidance available for free on the NHS in the U.K.) to see if this helps symptoms

I feel like unnatural vegan's seitan recipe is just like the communitychannel's lamington video, we will never see it lol

I totally relate to feeling great at first and then realizing you've been in denial about the negatives. Not in terms of veganism, but when I was on birth control for really bad cramps for the first few months I was in denial even with myself about the negatives. It wasn't until 6 months later that I started admiring that they made me gain weight, I had nausea, I had migraines, etc etc.

I think it's simple: veganism can be easy, especially with the right mindset and support, it can be delicious and healthy, but you shouldn't expect it to be a magical cure for everything. I have quite a big circle of vegan friends and most don't feel very different (physically) than they did before. Personally, I do have much more energy now but I eat significantly more fruits and vegetables on a daily basis, and I also started taking vitamin D which I should have done much sooner because we don't get a lot of sun here. My energy drops when I eat too much junk food for a while and/or stop exercising.

I remember commenting on one of That Vegan Couple's videos saying "I don't think there's anything wrong with telling people to eat more greens instead of rice for weightloss" and they responded with (something to the extent of) "No, that's a terrible idea. That will make people undercarbed and go back to eating animals!!!!!!" and I was embarrassed at the time for my comment that I deleted it. Now I know better lol and I was right.

i really really wish people would just stick with the ethical argument for being vegan. Veganism is healthy yes but it is not magic. I came to this lifestyle thinking it was magic (because of certain youtubers) and i've since encountered multiple digestive issues (mostly due to my past of disordered eating) and still am.The only thing that's keeping me around through this pain is the animals and because i "woke up" to the fact that being rawtill4 or raw vegan is not going to help me out (quite the opposite really). People still face health issues with veganism and maximum of these digestive issues are caused by bizarre diets advocated by vegan youtubers with absolutely zero scientific knowledge on nutrition. I feel like Saara was definitely fooled by one of these youtubers into thinking 10 banana smoothies would heal your body. I'm pretty sure eating pbj toast or a bowl of cereal for breakfast would not be the cause of 20 dumps. I hope she sees this video and reconsiders but until then we have the vegan cult of youtube to thank for yet another casualty.

Yes! Not a vegan myself however have considered it and making positive changes. I came across the vegan couple when they were bullying Anna saconne after her miscarriage and it completely put me off veganism. Really good to see a vegan standing up against them

I have never considered going vegan so seriously as I have been now that I found your channel. Its so good to hear about it from people who dont live in this parallel universe of happiness and health. Thank you!

Perhaps all the other vegans will have to eventually acknowledge: one specific diet doesn't work for everyone.

Yes, they are riddiculous. But wait, isn't Saara riddicoulous, too? Come on, making a video about going vegan, calling it off after three weeks (she was vegan like what, two months?) She is not saying she will be vegetarian (=less fiber, still contributing), she's not saying she tried to change her vegan diet. I know doctors and to-be-doctors and trust me, they have shitload of work, and they are not necesairly nutritionists (which is absolutely crazy of That Vegan Couple to demand that - do they realize how complex and vast field of medicine is? Doctors have limited time, let them focus on their damn fields! Anyway, some of them do know about nutrition - dermatologists, gastrologists etc. but they are not your primary doctors. I don't see That Vegan Couple making degrees one after another.), and if you come to your primary doctor saying 'I felt good, changed diet, I feel bad' it is just common sense to say 'go back to your previous diet!', they won't have time time to hold your hand and analyze Earthlings versus blood test with you while eating low fiber hummus. If you watch her going vegan video, she says this generic bullshit, I mean, excuse me, three weeks in and you hair grows like crazy? I totally agree with you that soon after change it was probably psychological, but anyway, making this transition 'like that' while having stomach issues? Without doing even a blood test or resarching what micro/macronutrients should be avoided? She fell into fashion trap without preparing (yes, when you have a condition you have to prepare extra) and I don't feel like we have to shield her from 'those crazy vegans', who actually this time weren't that inaccurate and mad in their opinions.

I had an encounter whit a KZfaqr like this two folks a year ago. I had a horrible experience! He was pretty aggressive on how I should eat , think or even breathe, at one point he called me mediocre for just being the way I am, of course I hated him and everything that has to do with veganism, I thought all vegans were like this dude. I’m now going back to a vegan diet, after reading a few books and just learning what my body needs. It is people like you that make me think not all vegans are jerks and that is not as hard as it looks, thanks so much for being yourself and for being tolerant! Love your channel!

I was kicked out of a facebook vegan group about a bad judgement. I was visiting family, there was no vegan food, I was hungry, and I ate a chicken nugget when no one was looking. I felt terrible for doing it and wanted to know if anyone else ever had a lapse in judgement - not to comfort myself, really, but to know if anyone ever made exceptions. 20 responses of shame and I was kicked.I prefer your perspective and it's the idea that keeps me "trying". Albeit, failing several times, accepting that trying is better than not. Thanks for being a voice of reason.

When i went vegan, all the fiber did cause me digestive issues. Mainly constipation, and i can tell you i did not take one single shit in a day! The reason was that i did not eat enough fats, as a vegetarian my fats came from eggs and cheese. So cutting them out, i was left with basically no fats. After i added suitable amount of fats on all my foods, it solved it. You need fats if you are eating lots of fiber, they act as a lubricant in the the colon so shit can move. New vegans do not know where to get plant based fats. And all the idiots advocating low fat diets, even when plant fats are mostly just super good and have no cholesterol. Now i know, and make sure that all my foods have suitable amount of fats. One good thing is ground flaxseeds, you can add them in pasta sauce and it will work as a thickener. Just add them last, as you wont want to heat up fats too much or they will break. Also, most of these youtubers are going vegan and off vegan for views. As it will cause drama and response videos and all that crap. Most of them have no idea of what proper nutrition is, so it's pretty impossible to switch to vegan diet after not knowing how to eat in the first place. You need to know how to balance your diet, to be interested in nutrition contents and all that at least for the first months. Unless you have a person who can form you a proper diet.

I can't stand That Vegan Couple. Condescending, creepy, and ineffective.

I am super shocked on the dangerous advice that they gave to the person on tumblr... Omg you can't tell anyone to just eat a vegan diet and then you don't need your medication anymore... That's terrible

That Vegan Couple: It's all fake news unless it supports our personal beliefs and ideologies.

Completely off topic, but when are you due? Do you plan on showing your baby in a video one day? How do you feel about KZfaq/major social media families showing their young children all the time? Would you mind doing a video on these subjects?

That vegan couple also said that service dogs are not vegan.

Telling someone veganism will cure their depression is one of the most dangerous thing I’ve heard in awhile. Incredibly irresponsible and down right malicious.

"Freelee" fucked up Vegan for all of us.

I haven't watched your videos for a couple of weeks now, but I am so happy I found my way back. You are one of the major reasons why I try to reduce my animal product intake as much as possible, because you are so rational and so good at what you do. I really appreciate that you take so much time explaining why all activism isn't automatically great and awesome. Words mean things and I don't know why so many people haven't grasped that idea yet. So.. yay you!

THANK YOU. I watched them when I first transitioned from vegetarianism to veganism, along with people like Freelee, Nina and Randa, etc. As someone who needs to take medication for depression and hating the stigma behind it, I was convinced that eating enough fruit would magically make me better, I was incredibly afraid of eating fat, I was fearful of medications and supplements -- I was constantly sick, malnourished, incredibly depressed. I'm not usually someone who jumps on these sort of trends, but when you see videos of these passionate people as the main face of veganism it's painfully easy to confuse their misinformation with facts. If I hadn't been vegetarian for so long before I know I would have given up a lot easier and it scares me how many people we're turning away with people like this as the face of veganism.

that vegan couple makes me want to flip a table - they are so smug and closeminded. the best thing for veganism is to just support reduction of animal products and not demand absolute purity

That is always something I can just never watch freelee for, she at used to get on even vegetarian youtubers about how unhealthy they must be and always seemed to conclude that people who ate ANY animal product could not possibly be considered healthy, like eating small amounts cheese or milk was like smoking a pack of cigarettes and eating mcdonalds every day

Have to say its always a pleasure to read through your comments and see all the non-crazy vegans being all reasonable and understanding. Life is not black and white and not everyone can go fully vegan. Every step towards veganism is a positive step in the right direction which should be encrouaged instead of being shamed for not being pure enough. As a non-vegan (I'm semi-vegeterian) the crazy angry vegans who attack with anti science propoganda really put me off. They exaggerate everything to push their agenda and I think they are deluded. But this is where the rational people hang out, which gives me hope, you don't have to be crazy to be vegan :)

I stopped watching their videos a while ago. Natasha kept getting angrier at the camera. Nobody owes them an explanation on their life choices. I believe they have removed themselves from reality. They live in a bubble where only what they are saying and how they are living is the only right choice.

I can’t believe these two lunatics actually told a person on anti depressants to just follow their diet and they won’t need the meds anymore... I hope this person didn’t listen to them.

I really appreciate that you're pro talking about vegan struggles. I myself have been meat free for over 4 years now. The last few weeks I've been struggling and considering eating seafood. I've been having cravings for meat and it just makes me feel bad about myself. Looking for some answers, I found your channel. Watching your videos made me realize that I haven't been eating the proper nutrition and that may be why I've been craving non-vegan foods. I avoid soy, since I have found it makes my acne worse. But I watched your soy video and I plan on reintroducing soy to see if it affects me negatively still. I think having more options for meat subtitutes will help me feel more satisfied with my food, since I'm a foodie and love to cook. I'm so grateful to have found you. Your mindset is so refreshing. I've been learning more about eating the proper macros, and making sure I'm getting enough protein. My passion for being vegan is renewed, and I'm so happy to feel like myself again! We really shouldn't be ashamed when we talk of our struggles being vegan. It's not always easy. But I'm happy I'm standing by my love of animals and my commitment to not hurting them.

Increased risk of death? I know what they mean, but their choice of words is hilarious. How much higher than a one hundred percent chance of death can you go?

I have to agree that That Vegan Vegan couple preach a very unhealthy view of veganism. For a long time I watched their videos, but not anymore. For them, veganism is the only way to live life, literally--preaching and speaking about veganism, veganism, and more veganism. No job, no other passions, no friends, no hobbies, no real place to call home, and no belongings. If the entire world went vegan, they'd be lost. They've lost contact with their personalities, and probably no longer recognize themselves, or what they truly want in life aside from 'other people to stop eating animals'. Paradoxically enough, I think that they've lost contact with who they are, or were, as human beings.

reading the answers on their tumblr page makes me certain of where not go for advice... those answers were actually terrible. did they also delete the question about anti-depressants?

your videos are honestly a breath of fresh air lol and that bit about saara saying she thought going vegan would cure all her stomach issues because that's what everyone said it would do goes back to your whole thing with kristina about how going vegan (or fully raw vegan) is supposedly some magic panacea that fixes everything because that's what these big figures in the online vegan community want us to think

I know this video is from 2016 but I just discovered this channel and omg, I'm so happy!

doctors have barely any nutrition training

I'm so glad I'm watching you videos again. I stopped after some of the pregnancy videos because I'm like, 20, but I really do enjoy these videos! Are you making or have made a "wrong things I've said last year" video again?

I had the SAME THING! I started a vegan diet and felt amazing cuz I was so thrilled and excited about all the new recipes and the new experience in general and then after a year I noticed I couldn’t maintain the diet...don’t wanna talk down on veganism at all but this is actually true

And all they ever do is reference nutrition facts!!!! Goddamit, read other stuff too!!!!

no matter how healthy you eat or how clean you eat your mental health will demolish all of that i talk from experience.. having got shingles before because i suffer from chronic stress & low immunity because of bipolar (which runs in the family) its a case of trying to control my moods or i 100% will be sick as a dog or worse in hospital septic because my hormones are bouncing off the walls causing infections etc

Thank you, for this. I was vegan, but it made my digestive problems worse. turns out it was a very serious issue with my lower esophagus and upper stomach. It not something veganism can cure. So it's nice to see someone not bashing her for trying to get to the root of her problem.

The real story's really simple: 1. she wasn't cured by vegan diet 2. and she really missed her sausage 3. so she stopped being vegan 4. but she won't tell you that.

Totally agree!! I used to watch TVC and really liked them at first. As I spent a longer time being vegan I started to become disillusioned. Their continued effort to promote themselves as health experts because they have been vegan for a long time became infuriating. Cant watch any more. Thanks for being a real world vegan who remains rational.

when I get filthy rich, I'm going to pay you to read me bed time stories.

This is pretty much exactly why I will never stick a label on my diet. I feel like so many people are more concerned with being able to say "I'm vegan" than having a healthy diet. Not everything works for everyone, that's just how it is. Health is more important than having a fancy title for your diet.

Saara probably felt great the first month because she was giving up processed/junk food.

Never clicked a video so fast! Love your logical approach.

Vegansism is giving Australians a bad name.

My primary reason for being vegan is the health benefits. The ethical benefits are also very nice but secondary. If there's little or no long term health benefits, then I'm not sure if I'll stay vegan. I dunno how much you watched Dr. Greger's stuff, but there's a huge amount of research about the health benefits of not eating animal products. And if you think that people should listen to experts and doctors, that is what he is. He might make a mistake sometimes but that doesn't mean that most of what he says is untrue or hyperbole.

Thank you so much for being such a voice of reason. As someone w/ a serious GI disease that now leaves me fully dependent on IV nutrition & hydration, for years - trying to stave of the eventual need for IVs - I had to survive on a nearly no-fiber diet so while eating low/ no fiber is not typically the healthier choice there ARE situations where it is necessary & can literally mean the difference between staying somewhat healthy & having repeated, life-threatening bowel obstructions (that in turn require hospitalization & at times surgery). I LOVE that you embrace the message that it's not just all or nothing & that less animal based is still a good thing. It infuriates me how absolutist many vegan "advocates" can be. For me choosing to be vegan would literally mean choosing death - the IV nutrition that has kept me alive for the last 10+yrs has some non-vegan ingredients - and yet I have had some vegans tell me that if I "truly wanted to" I could be fully vegan?! Uh, yeah.

Maybe Saara increased her fiber intake too rapidly. Roberta H. Anding (MS, RD/LD, CSSD, CDE and professor at Baylor College of Medicine with over 30 years of experience in nutritional science) in her course Nutrition Made Clear, said that when a person wants to increase the consumption of fiber, he or she is to do so gradually. For example, if one decides to change from low fiber cereal to one with more fiber, she suggests to star by mixing the two, the first day mix 1/4 (serving) of the high fiber cereal and 3/4 (serving) of the low fiber and increase the ratio of high fiber cereal every few days. In addition Dr. Joel Fuhrman in his book "The End of Diabetes", recommends that when a person wants to increase his or her consumption of beans to do so gradually because they can be hard to digest at first but the body will get used to them.

those people make me cringe so hard

I know this video is old but i’m binging all your videos. honestly, as people who are not medical doctors, not psychiatrists, not experts in anyway, how dare they tell someone that eating a high fruit vegan diet will mean they won’t have to take antidepressants? that is so dangerous. they should be ashamed.

I think that is the biggest pet peeve I have is the "even though we have no education in health or nutrition, we're going to give you advice, btw stop by our shop and buy a t shirt!" I am currently now a vegetarian (ex vegan) mostly because I started becoming over obsessed with what I would eat and when and I started driving myself insane. I tried to reach this level of "perfection" with being a vegan (throw out old leather shoes that I bought b4 becoming vegan) and I just ended up isolating myself from everyone and yeah. I eat cheese, eggs and honey every now and then but I still stick to my almost vegan diet. I agree. it's important we can talk about this instead of being morally superior and lecturing others (which is why I stopped watching Freelee months ago).

I freaking love you. I always watch vegan youtubers and buy into a lot of the bs and then i come back to your channel for actual science and realize that veganism is not black and white. Thanks for these videos!

Could you make a video about NinaandRanda and their diet promotion excluding ALL fat from their followers diet? They even said in their taste test video with Rawvana that they don't care about calcium! so so dangerous thinking that most of their followers must be young girls :/

why did she not ask her doctor to give her advise on how to manage her medical condition on a vegan diet? on a side note vegans not taking non-vegan medicine is stupid.

I had some serious issues going vegan at first. I stuck with it and figured out the things that might be going wrong. I'm glad I was able to find info out there with people discussing the problems with standard vegan advice. Tbh, it's not a miracle pill. I was feeling my healthiest on a pescatarian diet, skin looked amazing and whatnot, and I'm hoping to get there with veganism, but it's hard when veganism isn't looked at through a pragmatic lens. It's not automatically better or healthier no matter what you do. Because non-vegan foods are more widely available, it's easier to get in all your nutrition with them. So research is required with veganism.

Honestly I'd love to go vegan but some people need to understand that not everyone can go vegan. Like I was like Born last week so like I'm still growing so my parents shove milk down my throat and I'm really anemic so I need to have a shit ton of iron and I can't get that with most foods because I'm allergic to soy peas nuts etc so I have to rely on fish. It's so annoying that people will practically attack you if you're not vegan it's genuinely not healthy for a lot of people and personally I'd rather like not diE so I think I'll stay pescetarian

the real question is , is unnatural vegan good for veganism? i dont understand her goal, is she trying to help the vegan message or? i just dont understand her goal

I've had the same problem as Saara had with the vegan diet - I literally pooped 15 times a day. No exaggeration.

TVC's argument at 9:45 just astonishes me. Her doctor is not increasing her risk of death by sending her back to a non-vegan diet. Even if that diet is linked to 14 out of 15 leading causes of death. All of those things MAY happen to her (if she goes to McDonald's every day or something), but there is no clear sign that they WILL affect her. However, it is very clear that the vegan diet she was following was in fact directly harmfull to her. Which means that even though those 14 things may be on the list of things she might get on a non-vegan diet, this does not outweigh the risk that comes with the one thing she already got (or worsened) on a vegan diet. If I'd be severely allergic to strawberries and I had to choose between eating a burger or a strawberry, I am clearly not going to not eat the burger, because it on average is more unhealthy. It would be the healthier choice for me to eat the burger, because the strawberry might kill me instantly, but I'd live another 60 years eating burgers. You cannot decide what one person should eat, based on the average person.

Vegan Couple creeps me the hell out!

Why do some vegans care so much about what other people eat? Like eat your tofu and let everyone else eat their steak, do other people’s diets really affect your life that much?

My mom had a pretty similar problem. She still doesn't eat mammals or birds and certain sea critters or dairy for ethical reasons, but she had to stop eating completely vegan after a couple years

TLDR; great video! It's nice to come across an open-minded vegan. :D You have a new subscriber. This is the first video that I've watched on your channel, and I'm so happy to have found someone like you on here! I was a fan of TVC when they began receiving recognition. They had around 40 000 subscribers when I became a fan, and they were much different back then. Their videos primarily focused on why they became vegan, the various health problems they've overcome because of their new diet, their minimalist life, etc. They're genuinely great people. The volunteer work that they've done in the past is inspiring, and they seem to have good intentions. That being said... their popularity began to escalate once they started "critiquing" big names on KZfaq (granted that you are critiquing them as well... but you're not as hostile). They've essentially become Freelee (ugh). While I want to believe that their heart is in the right place, spreading the vegan message and all, I wouldn't be as annoyed with them if they avoided the extremist route. I've made a lot of people in my life reconsider their meat consumption because of my choice to eliminate it all together. No condemning and/or aggressive judgement was necessary for that to come into effect. All that was needed was simple facts that I know are true, and that was enough. I didn't give out half ass facts because I don't have the qualifications to answer a lot of questions that a doctor and/or RD can. Their answer to that fan's mental health question really set me off, and that's enough for me to finally unsubscribe from their channel. I already deleted them off Snapchat because I was tired of their lack of variety in their meal planning, plus their stories were just way too long to watch in a day. I'm glad for what I learned from TVC, such as some facts about factory farming and environmental issues. However, now they are equivalent to the close-minded extremists that you find in politics, religion, etc., and we know how effective that is. :) (*heavy sarcasm*) Thanks for this refreshing perspective. You have a new subscriber!

I subbed to you two years before I even went vegan. after watching TVC for a few days (they showed up in recommended videos) I made the switch. Some people need their approach.

I LOVE this vegan because she’s not bashing people that aren’t vegan!

I thought going high carb low fat vegan would cure my acne but after two and a half months of eating like Nina and Randa, my acne was not impacted at all. My face was definitely less oily but other than that, my acne remained as consistent as usual. It really sucks when these people think what worked for them only will work for every person in the world and that medicine isn't necessary.

My friend was a raw vegan until she ended up in hospital, she stayed there for 2 weeks... In my country she's kind of a big deal among raw vegans... So she's still promoting raw veganism as something amazing and healthy just because it brings her money, even though she's not even a vegan, she's a vegetarian now...

Still trying to wrap my mind around how you feel like a lower animal consumption is as healthy as going vegan. The Adventist studies looked at this exact thing - a lower meat omnivorous diet and a standard vegan diet. The Adventist II study of 90,000 people found that vegans have 63% lower incidence of hypertension, 62% less diabetes, 16% less cancer, 15% lower mortality, 10% less heart disease, a healthier BMI average, 10% less hypothyroidism and more. Not to mention a whole food vegan diet reverses heart disease. But the ability to reliably reverse our leading killer isn't a good reason to promote veganism? dresselstyn.com/JFP_06307_Article1.pdf Finally, if you do believe that a low meat diet and a vegan diet are of equal improvement over a SAD diet, then you should make it known that a vegan diet is a ONE great option for getting healthier for 90% of the population and hence, the health argument IS compelling even under your false narrative. Adventist II Mortality: jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/1710093 Adventist II Diabetes: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21983060 Adventist II Hypothyroidism: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24264226 Adventist II Cancer and Hypertension: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4144107/ Adventist II Heart Disease: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/

They're so judgmental, i'm glad you made this video!

It's something that really needs to be learned, Veganism/Vegetarianism isn't for everyone and you can't generally force that diet who is having health issues that will get predominantly worse if they have something removed from their diet OR added into their diet. i.e. nuts and soy, the replacement product for milk sounds neat and dandy, but not plausible to those who can't eat nuts or their digestive tract has a nasty reaction to soy.

I became a vegan in October 2003, and an ex-vegan in Oct. 2017 (very very sadly) . Long story, health related (I was practically dead in the end). Did everything as "right" as I could. I like your video. My heart is still vegan and I hope we all find the answers we're looking for and eliminate cruelty and suffering ultimately as we all intend to do.