It is. It's a disaster waiting to happen. Dog parks are like the ocean, you can't really control what's inside.

I've seen *toddlers* at my local dog park, on the large dog side. Every person there (other than their guardian) was on high alert, which I'm sure the dogs sensed as well. To make it worse, the toddler sat down and began scooping up the mulch and playing like she was making sand castles.

My dog wouldn’t tolerate that kind of behavior

She’s very dominant. It seems like he doesn’t have the respect of her at all. He definitely does not have any control over her. That’s not good. If you have a large breed you have to know they will obey when given a command.

Perfectly said.

my thoughts exactly, she's not aggressive but just has some pushy behavior that can be easily corrected. Also probably needs to be played with 30 minutes prior to getting to dog park. Dog park is for socialization and play but to throw such a high energy dog into a high energy place is risky. Lots of factors that you can't control but you can at least bring your dog's energy level down a bit prior to socializing with other dogs.

@@1992pv ^ -- I definitely have to do that with one of my Huskies, he is young and very playful, and sometimes he can play very rough, especially if they are dogs smaller than him, =') but I don't take him to dog parks unless there are very few people or no one at all, it's not that I don't trust him, but from other people's perspective, he may seem... apart from the fact that he is very tall for his age (he is not a purebred Siberian husky). He is somewhat intimidating (or that's what he looks like on the outside); therefore, people usually avoid him before getting to know him.

Dogs communicate between each other when they want to play, when both agree play commences. This Dobie does not communicate, she will bowl over a dog that is in play with another dog and the bowled over dog thinks they are being attacked. She doesn't bite the dogs she attacks just brings up their defenses from the sudden attack. The video doesn't capture all the issues as the dog park is pretty large. She would be a great dog if the owner would do his duty.

@@dzonevideo5785 That dog is in her early years of socialization. She just needs to be corrected. The owner could play with the dog for 30 minutes prior to bringing her into the dog park so her energy level isn't so high. Easier to socialize a dog that isn't so wound up with energy. Doberman is definitely not for his age.

💯 my dog loves kids but doesn’t know how to behave around them. Not my job or responsibility to watch other peo0les kid. If I wanted that I’d get myself a child instead of a dog 🐶

No there isn’t and it is always a concern especially when they run and scream and act like prey. Most of the regular dogs are great with kids, but who knows how a new dog is going to react.

@@dzonevideo5785 where I live there is age limit and they must be accompanied by supervising adult.

@@dzonevideo5785 the sad part is the kid owners haven’t taught them to behave properly so you know their dog won’t be educated SMH

Dog parks are for dogs not kids

Of course it is

Guten Abend Elila, it is the same crazy man! Sadly human drama is another pandemic we have to deal with that include all dog parks, schools and anywhere that serves alcohol 😳 I’m so glad I’m not the only European awake and watching KZfaq posts at this hour. Es freut mich, Sie kennenzulernen.x

In 6 years going to this park, this is the first drama I have witnessed

@@Thenakedforager Oh thank you that's so nice. Nice to meet you too. Yes, you are right, you meet them everywhere. Alcohol, drugs or simply destroyed by life. It seems everyone has to learn how to deal with people like this at some point in their lives. Sooner or later.

Sometimes

​@@ThenakedforagerWe need membership only dog parks.

That old guy’s Doberman doesn’t seem to like him too much.

Shit Bulls being the exception to your statement.

That saying is a bit overblown, there are some inherently bad dogs just like there are some inherently bad people, it's just natural biological diversity. Not saying that applies here though

Yea muzzle a dog in a dog park... What happens I've another dog attacks it? Can't even defend itself... Muzzle elsewhere in public I agree.

First off that was rough play hardly aggression, from both Dobies. Usually Dogs if they don’t like it will give a proper correction. This is how dogs learn how to behave, often dogs give it better than the humans. I hate most owners at dog parks but they haven’t a clue what they are talking about. 🙄

Sadly lack of money is the first of excuses lmao they can't be bothered to pay for training session, I just hope they get sued to fucking oblivion.

all toys (including balls) & food are not allowed at my local dog park

Agree. Too quick to blame the Dobermans when theirs is the aggressor. They haven’t a clue because they aren’t paying attention.

He doesn’t seem capable of a sedate walk with her. She doesn’t mind him because she sees him as a pack member and not the leader. She is the pack leader. Probably why she’s a little pushy.

You think dog fights are acceptable? Dogs can be killed or seriously injured in a fight. Growling is warning for an attack. I have dealt with dog aggression in my pack and spent $$ on training.

@@zmanphx not like fight for real for real but they can get a little rough, if ur dog starts to be to aggressive you leash them and give them a break. I’ve seen dogs play rough for hours barking and growling and no one got hurt. Dogs are like kids , sometimes they play rough and get hurt but you have to be able to intervene when they do and correct it and 5 mins later the forget about it and go back to playing.

@@rodcarew1353 As a sheltie owner it's not ok to let dogs play rough in a dog park. Not all dogs do that. I've had my sheltie attacked by dogs while the owners just stood there. Rough play needs to be discouraged. Dogs need to be socialized and taught how to behave around other dogs.

@@MrRaven2 well obviously if ur dogs gonna play rough u need to be close to the action and a good enough owner to correct your dog or stop them if they get to rough. Been going to the dog park for years and they get rough every day and there’s never really been a problem.

@@MrRaven2 What?? Sounds like you are afraid and over protective. Dogs like to play rough. It's on us to read body language and separate when they get tunnel vision and too excited. I'm sorry yours was attacked, but you can't expect every owner and dog to not play rough when that's perfectly fine. Your dog may not like rough play, it's your choice to bring it to a dog park with dogs that can and like to play rough. Some dogs play rough together and are perfectly happy and their energy level is matched. You're the kind of person who would freak out if a big dog even approached yours at the dog park. Deep breaths, your dog will be fine. FYI, I dont go to dog parks anymore purely because of owners and dogs like yours who feel they need to not interact or play with anything *at a dog park of all places* and get upset at the slightest physical interaction. Too many Park Police owners who can't even look at the dog's body language or understand aggression versus play. If you want to be by yourself off-leash and not worry about other dogs, find somewhere else. And don't come with the Socialization aspect, dogs are dogs and dogs will play rough. This has nothing to do with what you expect the other owner's dog's training and temperament should be. If it's controlled and monitored there is literally nothing wrong with dogs playing rough. Owners like you have ridiculous standards and impose how you think dogs should behave on everyone else (in public and online). I wonder exactly how well-trained your dog is? As an owner of a very well-trained and socialized German Shepherd who likes to play rough with dogs his size and temperament, you are clueless. If you want a robot, get a robot. Dogs will be dogs, we can only control them through training, but their instinct is there and to deny them that (within legal reasons obviously) is cruel in itself. The dog park is one of the very few places where they have the opportunity to play freely with other dogs. Again, I'm against going to the dog park, but it's mostly because of owners like yourself and the randomness of dogs temperaments may not match with yours. It's your choice to go there.

Actually YOU need to be properly trained. The dog wasn't interpreting the boisterous play as aggression at all.

"That spike collar" is a prong and doesnt harm them. It's a very good tool, it just snaps the brain out of it and good for big breeds and owners who are not strong. What you do with it is important, though, as it only works on snaps not on pulling.

@@whyisthesky bad take, dude

@@whyisthesky should we put those around children's necks and give them a quick snap when they misbehave?

Dogs are not humans. And just like how we dont want to be treated like a dog, a dog also doesnt want the same to them. A prong is an amazing tool that can teach the dog things. Though in my opinion its only necessary in training and not everyday life. You could think of it as a calculator. Sometimes u need it and at some point u can do it yourself without help. @@meghan253

Well if your child is lunging for moving cars it might be a safer option then them getting hit by a car

Train her before you enter a dog park.

Don’t take her , look at all the Karen’s who go to these places. I would join a kennel club or training group and take her there. These folks can’t tell what is play and what is real aggression . This was not aggressive behavior by the Dobie If that Dobie was aggressive trust me there be more action on this boring video…. 😉

Try some Beckmann Trainer methods, his on KZfaq

Doggie daycare is great for socializing

@@britt6282 doggie daycares are TERRIBLE for socializing. They're more confined versions of a dog park and everything that is wrong with dog parks apply to daycares.

If they thought that dobie was bad they would think my pit/lab mix's would be demons. My pack plays hard, growls, bowls each other over and keeps on going. Would i take them to a dog park? Nope because i don't know the temperament of the other dogs. I know my dogs and their safety is my #1 concern. I won't risk my dogs getting injured, an owner get injured trying to separate my dogs from their dogs nor my dogs get labeled aggressive and put down because another owner doesn't understand the breed and assume my dogs are aggressive because of their breed.

@@tarabrooks3760 i agree not taking them to dog parks, but dont talk to me about pits; too many people injured/mauled/killed by them; my son was injured by one; my friend bitten in the face by one. they shd not b allowed in society period. dont reply ps.

@@Lauren-vd4qe i was bit in the face by a dachshund and had a Doberman go for my throat but only got me in the chest. Do i think those breeds should be kept away from society? No, in fact Doberman Pinchers are my favorite breeds. I have owned and rescued and fostered many different breeds and the pits were the ones i had the least problems with. Sorry your son and friends got attacked but don't single out an entire breed based off individual dogs actions.

@@tarabrooks3760 ask any ER doc or plastic surgeon how much damage a pb does compared to other breeds.

Dobermans are the best ! Well said . This wasn’t anything close to aggression. 😂 Just another douche bag making videos and portraying Dobies as aggressive. I hate these videos. I own one and he can sound ferocious lol 😂 but there’s never a scratch on anyone he plays with. This is nothing more than click bait bs …

i feel like they should help and advise him instead of just running him off tbh

They might have tried before and he didn’t take advice too well. He seems that type. She is definitely the pack leader in that house. Probably why she is so pushy at the park. Also this might be her only time she gets all her energy spent.

@@gabesmom5615 theres also been other chases where they shun owners sadly instead of helping them. just vverry tired of people judgying and kicking other dog owners out without even helping them, or simply watching dog fights happens and watch some poor old dude trying to stop the fight. seen way to many of those happen

Yes it is the same dude, I bring a harness to the dog park to give to him but he hasn't been back since this episode. I feel sorry for his pup. She just needs a leader.

He’s not really giving any corrections. She doesn’t listen to him because she sees him as weak

Absolutely agree. Most of they rarely have anything to do but lay around. Never has a chance to get rid of that energy. The Dobermans were mostly just running around not really engaging until later. The noisy between the two was more play than fight. That’s how loud mine were when play wrestling.

I thought I was hearing things when he said it just before 23:20

She doesn’t like him. If he’s ok with someone kicking her at the park. He is absolutely mistreating her at home.

@@gabesmom5615 that’s probably why the dog has a limp…. Someone should report him

the dobermans were not bad; they play rough sometimes with plenty of growling etc, doesnt mean its dreadful, they are an assertive playful energetic breed, i had dobermans for 45 yrs.

@@Lauren-vd4qe I've learned a lot having two dogs at once. I have a pit mix and a pure bred lab, male and female. They have never gotten in a fight but a lot of people think they are fighting when they see them play. They play rough but they never take it too far.

Lots of excitement at a dog park. Most of them should have a disciplined walk before to get rid of some of that energy.

@@gabesmom5615 a disciplined walk does not release any energy; a dog likes to run run run!!

@@Lauren-vd4qe give them a job during the walk and tire them out some. Too many people let their dogs walk them

That’s probably good. Do use get blamed a lot.

I didn’t think we would see him back in this park, boy I was wrong.

Was this same guy who tries to start a fist fight in another video?

@@zmanphx Yep

The girls Dobe and the lab are best pals and play together all the time. They play rough but are both good with it. They also play rough with other dogs, The man’s dobe doesn’t ever communicate it wants to play , she just bowls everyone over and gets checked or scares the other dogs. She doesn’t play by the dogs rules.

@@dzonevideo5785 well i don' think a dog is gonna be like "Those two are friends I can't play with them" they just recognize high energy and if its a high energy dog they are most likely gonna join in, maybe that's how she likes to play not all dogs play the same, and that's why the other dog checked her, if the mans Dobie really wanted to fight there would have been a fight considering how bad his recall is for the dog, in other videos i've seen regarding dominate dogs they always hover over the dog they are trying to assert their dominance over and have very tense body language, this dog has her mouth open, hackles down, and ears in a relaxed position

North Georgia

A black and tan. And a red and rust. So far have only seen high energy play. Shouldn’t have those kids wrestling and hollering. Dogs can run them over for one. And some dogs are very protective of children even if they’re not their people. Are there three dobes there? That one black one that neither cropped or docked. Sure looks like one. Oops I see another black and tan without cropped ears.