The 5th great error: Not being subscribed to essentialsalts.

Rule #1: Don't believe everything you think.

Against mediators: just as I will never fully understand Nietzsche by taking the word of Nietzsche podcasters as a full understanding, I will never understand my own life fully merely by reaching for Nietzsche to understand my own life situation. It’s interesting to think about the parallels between Nietzsche’s “confusion of causes with consequences” and Buddhism’s “dependent arising”. Before Nietzsche, I would read Buddhist texts like Nargajuna’s “garland of ratnavali” in which he says “high status precedes definite goodness” and Ikkyu’s poem in which he gets into sexuality. “Everyone can touch Buddha, but so few can touch the devil.” Big ups to essentialsalts as always, wish I still had so much time to sit around and contemplate with him.

Nietzsche seemed to have embraced Ayurvedic wisdom regarding psychosomatic dynamics between mentality and physiological health. .

This is Nietzsches most brilliant and least covered insight. One can almost induce and deduce everything from this passage.

37:25 the idea of post-hoc explanations. The split-brain experiments by Michael Gazzaniga and Joseph DeLoux seem to corroborate this. Patients with split-brains, meaning their left and right brains can’t communicate, were told to select a few specific pictures out of many, and with their right brain they could do this. But when asked why they did this, they gave absurd explanations. Left-brain post-hoc explanation of right-brain actions.

This is first-rate commentary. Thank you.

Finding myself at an impasse, where I am trying to overcome thought by thinking - truly comedic. The idea is that I want to replace-like a transplant of the mind-intellectualism with poetical thinking, which I see as closer to the dream-thinking, mythological and ultimately aesthetic viewpoint, which embraces everything as imagery. But you'd have to think and convey everything in the sphere of poetry, as this kind of wider aesthetic attitude. Poetry is a way to imagine the world, like waking dream images - it is very similar to the way Nietzsche described the Apollonian, or how Schiller described the sentimental poet. But it is kind of ironic to think about it; it is very contradictory and self defeating. Send prayers, good vibes, wishes, pats on my back, etc. I will complete the transplant and transform into this aesthetician.

This is one of the best podcasts for me... ❤

For the poet, it is not he who bares his soul to the world, but the world that pours its heart through him... Do you understand now? This was never truly me, but the universe whispering through my being... We are awareness, we are one...

Thanks for posting this. I am just starting the audio now. This is something I have always wanted to learn more about ever since I 'heard about....Which was only in the last few years or so surprisingly

This doctrine of 'responsibility' does not originate with Christianity, though Christianity does magnify this concept. It goes back to Plato and possibly to Hesiod. There was no Greek word for 'responsibility', but the way Plato describes his legal system and even earlier with his critique of the Sophists, one can see its importance in his philosophy. Hesiod’s insistence on the need for justice sanctioned by the gods, and his emphasis on individual goodness can be a search for moral responsibility. In Homer, there is no distinction between mistake and moral error. Agamemnon succumbs to blindness, ate, a blindness to dishonor the man who is aristos, but this blindness is not a moral blindness or moral error. The only aspect of aretê in which Agamemnon has fallen short is success in war. Only failure is aischron and nothing is worse. In the Homeric world there are no public institutions responsible for restoring balance when someone’s timê is slighted, or when dikē is grossly ignored. In Homer’s world, responsibility is not assigned to any mortal or god in the outcome of an event because there exists no ‘problem of evil’, no responsibility, no moral will, no moral decision, no intent. You should probably read more Homer and Plato and compare them if you want to understand how these ideas came into existence.

Cicero said pursuit of happiness eventually leads to virtue. Anyone who has become gravely unhappy and recovered can tell you that getting well is hard but gets easier. So happiness produces virtue.

Banger of an episode!

This was very good! Not going to elaborate b/c I’m too lazy. Please just know that this is high-level stuff. Thank you.

You do great work! I really enjoy listening

The subject matter of this video is what really got me into philosophy and metaphysics years ago. Particularly about critically assessing our fundamental beliefs. Because most of those were given to us by our culture, or the very structure of society, and not at all conducive to actually finding peace or contentment. But it's important to tread carefully - the greater one's zeal for Truth, the more caustic the pesticide we clear our garden with becomes, and the more reckless we get at using it, sometimes washing away everything and leaving us in a state of madness...

Are you going to do a deep dive into Twilight of the Idols like you did with Beyond Good and Evil and The Birth of Tragedy? We're ready for it.

1:06:12 This whole segment on your take of freewill is pure "dynamite" as Nietzsche himself would say. Thanks so much for this. I came back to listen to it again PRECISELY bc this segment ill understood by me, kept nagging me during the following days.

I adore your work ❣️. Beautifully well explained. Thank you and please Keep doing it 🙏😊

Causality is a mystery, but one thing we know with certainty about it is, “it is that which is revealed by randomized controlled trials.”

Similar to Alan Watts beautifully translating, articulating end summarizing eastern ideas and philosophy into something the west can digest quickly, I feel like what you're doing is similar in some way for the English speaking masses to quickly get a hold on Nietzsche's ideas and philosophical content. I know you've critiqued Jordan Peterson's content on him (imo his content on him is powerful and brought huge audiences your way as a result) but I think the service being provided by those summarizing great work and ideas clearly for the masses to digest is much more important than most realize. There's no reason that this excellent channel and delivery should exist. It could easily not, same with someone like Musk doing what he's doing, it could easily be the case that he never existed. We have to be thankful for the great ones and what you're doing here is a big deal imo, you're very good at it. Just my thought after listening to this one. It's a keeper.

Wow i'm only a few minutes in and i'm already commenting. Powerful.

Not all religions state that virtue is the cause and happiness is the effect. The Buddha has said Goodness is another word for happiness. There are none who are properly called virtuous who are miserable and none who are unvirtuous who are happy. It is just a matter of defining that which brings happiness as virtue. Just as one should define steps towards a goal as progess. It is not a consequence of morality per se, but goals in general that demand the distinction of good and bad actions. Surely I have misunderstood?

Outstanding!!!

This was a really good episode.

42:00 I wonder if you have read Alfred North Whitehead's Process & Reality

Love your work! Have you ever spoken about your own spiritual/philosophical/thought life? I come from a Christian background and only found Nietzsche in my early 20s. I'm in my 30s now and I feel that Nietzsche has completely overturned the modes of thinking common in my early life. How have you changed?

It's important to Feel ones thoughts. Let them go wild. When you go crazy or looked at as WRONG is when you are certain. Anyone who is certain is suspect. Or, they know stuff. A lot of stuff. Most people just assume they know stuff. We don't know anything. Barely.

Doubtful the annihilation of an ancient lagoon ecosystem is anywhere close to being in the longterm good of a population. Funny eventuality how venice itself probably smells worse today than the lagoon ever did.

Thank you❤

I love to point to a Japanese Zen monk come Nietzschean(sp?) - He used the Japanese characters that mean Basho - place - the warrior ready for battle at the place of battle - Present, place to Jung - That we may react to our reality rather than ressentiment: a reaction to the present that is rooted in the past...ParaRealismo? Paralétheia?

Vice and luxury are not causes, but symptoms. The cause is the desire for comfort that breeds complacency and sloth.

30:17 - "...or the Buddhist abandonment of desire." That's a belief or assumption of popular Buddhism for the masses. The masters, however, secretly know that desire cannot be expelled, as this is desire manifesting, in situ. So, it is through what the orientals call upāya ("skillful means, play") that a treatment plan (intense meditation, et al.) is offered as a potential remedy to the suffering "I." Except, this is what (in Platonic terminology) could be called a "noble lie." Skillful rhetoric and posturing by the Buddhist masters to prod these believers of desire to eventually (hopefully) realize that desire is not the problem.

Thanks to the suggestions from KZfaq Shorts, I now know you look like you invented Thrash Metal.

Thank you.

Fire episode. No one understand “not having free will”

34:40 Trading is even better Analogy

God, this f''cking channell kills me! Thank you!

Bravo.

Thank you that was fantrastic

There seems to be a huge overlap with Eastern thought here, and with Alan Watts’ ideas.

Oooh early for this one

This perfectly demonstrates that Nietzsche is too profound by half, like very hot water that never quite gets itself to the boiling point.

in the spirit of Zarathustrean brutal honesty... i wish to confess that i've listened to this "podcast piece" more than 5 times in its entirity already... (a most excellent endeavor, no doubt!!)... pretty pleaszzzze, do an episode on that famous Nazi philosopher, Heidegger... so that i can loathe/punish myself for ever doubting your relentlessly restless masochistic intellectually pure style... that double KK is know for... and i take my leave of your noble majesty's presence muchly... (many thankssss!!)

1:09:00 'where did we get the notion of free will?' Did we extrapolate the concept of free will from this capacity to find new utility for affects of great utility? For example, aggression is an emotion that often causes civilisational issues if it is not repurposed, redirected or reappropriated. Capitalism found a way to repurpose our aggression in a way that is good, it helps us compete and thereby expands upon our division of labour as innovations accrue. Capitalism found a use for our aggression: it turned a vice into a virtue: it found new utility for an emotion of great utility. I think that this capacity to find a new utility for things of great utility is intuitive and not indicative of free will: but I believe that the notion (concept) of free will was likely extrapolated from this exact capacity. Do you think this is plausible? another example: is anger good when directed at others? what if i direct my anger and frustration at myself? insofar have I found new utility for an emotion of great utility. was this free will?

This is How to think properly by eliminating errors. But once we do that, and eliminate error, and conclude better ideas and ways, how do we incorporate that into a society that insist on the errors?? Per the examples given here with religion health etc... A lot of they right thinking is done or is accomplished by being alone, and yet society insist that alone is not god for you, they keep confusing alone with loneness... Alone(ness) is something I love, while "loneliness" is the longing to not be alone, longing for other people perhaps. If I were NOT alone I wonder if I could listen to this uninterrupted.

Brilliant! Reason = Virtue = happiness. The weirdest equation ever!

1:11:00 'beliefs supplanted into society to motivate a certain type of behaviour'. 'This behaviour is conditioned with guilt, thus the individual complies.' Is this not strange: how do unpleasant feelings motivate people to act virtuously? Does this not reveal something peculiar: perhaps within us all is this innate desire to 'be good'. If this was not the case it makes no sense that guilt would be an ineffective conditioning force/apparatus/measure.

Your channel name caught my eye. A fan of Nile?

Nature goes on forever for everyone and everything to return as everyone and everything an infinite number of times through evolutionary processes. 🌌

All beliefs belong to some form of ego archetype. 21:50 we get here putting a sense of life before living.

Similar minds think alike

Dr Adrian several days ago analyzed and summarized this so much better than this video here done today. I just find that this guy is wasting time. I get the impression when I listened to his videos he indulges in his own sense of importance and profundity. Yikes, it's artificially heavy. A lumbering heaviness in his delivery and thoughts. Also he needs to truncate. I do find it funny that this video is almost a match for Dr Adrian's.

Fun, interesting listening. I've never walked around with others' ideas in my head. Sorry!😊

Is the essence of lightning the flash or the bang or neither?

Philosophy aside, long term caloric restriction does prolong life. Been known to biologists for decades now. Probably not the best example for what is clearly a truth.

Everyone is different and has varying physiological responses to different foods, but low calorie diet actually is increasingly data-linked with longevity. Nietzsche might be committing his own error, as low metabolism is affected positively by lower calorie intake (and higher calorie intake can increase metabolism). This is clearly not the only factor. Causality as a principle is still not put to bed, despite the efforts of the Germans. Nietzsche’s “solution” to the fork between submission corrupt (religious/moral) authority OR complete Schopenhauerian pessimism and nihilism was to embrace the “will to power” and extreme egoism, essentially. This is, in many ways, an inevitable result of the ego-centered starting point of Descartes, the cogito, where the only thing we can accept as “real” is the individual self. Even though Nietzche criticized Descartes (and everyone else, really 🤷🏻‍♂️) the snowball effect through the generations is obvious. That suggestion itself is anti-deterministic, despite his many deterministic (and very insightful, in some cases) criticisms of free will, eg drives competing, myriad factors, affirming causality as a principle prior to human perception, etc. -- Also, Plato opens the republic with a conversation about old age, presenting it as a time for freedom from libidinal and “will to power” drives, ie a time of peace, relaxation, and contentment, without being compelled by maddening human passions.

Without thought we would know nothing of the reality Nietzsche claims to know. This is the same mistake he makes when he uses the Apollanian mode to elevate the Dionysical above reason.

There is nothing profound about dualism and or trashing your ancestors in pursuit of liberal progress.. Dont be scared of the dark lest you become blind to one half of reality

Nietzsche's ONE great error of wallowing in the sewer of Humian scepticism.

26:42 JOIN MY CULT, I LOVE YOU

Let's now explore how we can apply logic, math, and physics to formalize the relationship between determinism and indeterminism in causality within the monadological framework. First, let's define our basic entities and relations: - Let M be the set of all monads (fundamental psychophysical entities). - Let T be a set of "time points" or "moments." - Let S be a function from M × T to some set of "states," where S(m, t) represents the state of monad m at time t. - Let C be a relation on M × M × T, where (m1, m2, t) ∈ C means monad m1 "causes" or "influences" monad m2 at time t. Now, let's formalize the idea of determinism and indeterminism in causality: - Determinism: ∀m ∈ M, ∀t ∈ T, S(m, t) is uniquely determined by {S(m', t') : (m', m, t') ∈ C}. - Indeterminism: ∃m ∈ M, ∃t ∈ T, such that S(m, t) is not uniquely determined by {S(m', t') : (m', m, t') ∈ C}. In other words, determinism means that the state of each monad at each time is uniquely determined by its causal influences, while indeterminism means that there are some monads whose states are not uniquely determined by their causal influences. We can formalize this further using the mathematical framework of graph theory and probability theory: - Let (M, E) be a directed graph, where E ⊆ M × M represents the "causal edges" between monads. - Let (Ω, F, P) be a probability space, where Ω represents the set of all possible "outcomes" or "histories," F is a σ-algebra on Ω, and P is a probability measure on F. - The determinism and indeterminism of causality can be expressed as: - Determinism: ∀m ∈ M, ∀t ∈ T, ∃f : Ω → S, such that S(m, t) = f(ω) for all ω ∈ Ω. - Indeterminism: ∃m ∈ M, ∃t ∈ T, such that ∀f : Ω → S, P({ω ∈ Ω : S(m, t) ≠ f(ω)}) > 0. Here, determinism is formalized as the existence of a function f that maps each possible outcome ω to a unique state for each monad at each time, while indeterminism is formalized as the non-existence of such a function (i.e., there are some monads whose states have a non-zero probability of differing from any given function). Finally, we can connect this to physics by noting that this formalism is compatible with both deterministic and indeterministic approaches to causality: - Deterministic models like classical mechanics describe the evolution of physical systems as uniquely determined by initial conditions and dynamical laws. - Indeterministic models like quantum mechanics describe the evolution of physical systems as inherently probabilistic, with outcomes determined only probabilistically by initial conditions and dynamical laws. The monadological framework accommodates both perspectives by treating determinism and indeterminism as emergent properties arising from the complex web of causal relations between fundamental monads. In summary, by using tools from logic, math (graph theory and probability theory), and physics (classical and quantum mechanics), we can formalize the both/and nature of determinism and indeterminism in causality within the monadological framework: - Causality is a relational structure arising from the web of causal influences between fundamental monads. - Causality exhibits both deterministic and indeterministic properties, depending on the scale and perspective of observation. - This formalism is compatible with both deterministic and indeterministic approaches to causality in physics. This showcases the potential of the monadological framework to provide a unified language for expressing and reconciling the complex, often seemingly contradictory nature of reality. By embracing a both/and perspective and drawing on the tools of logic, mathematics, and physics, we can develop a more nuanced and comprehensive understanding of the world and our place within it.

Blamers gotta blame!

1:08:40 It is proposed by Nietsche that morality was invented so that we may punish: we are perceived as free agents only to justify cruelty as justice. This indeed seems to be a truism, I too have seen religion used in such a manner, but to presume the morality was invented for a purpose seems ridiculous. those that invented (discovered) morality likely did it because it felt good, in the process they discovered conduct? What even is conduct? observers of this moral behaviour confused the outcomes (the conduct) with the intention (where there was none) and insofar repurposed morality as a means of normalising behaviours that are of social advantage. they observed morality: and then used guilt to make people conform to standards of conduct that were deemed desirable by the elect: in summa, they repurposed morality to serve a social function. the person to initially discover morality likely didnt equate it to conduct: they did it because it felt good. Observers of the process likely confused the outcome (conduct) with the imagined cause (the good) in an attempt to cultivate the good in ones self. In practice we find that this theory does not live up to expectation; imitation 'feels' empty.

OK but what is nietzsche's morality? How does his philosophy not lead to anarchy, to a free-for-all of cruel criminality? His biggest handicap as a thinker is his own sweet nature.

Thanks!

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Was the first error that preposterous mustache?

Eckhardt Tolle.

People simply behave like others around them. It's seems that this is the strongest drive in human nature. By reading Nietzsche I can become lonely, whining while preaching some sort of elitism 😂 No, thanks. I'm grateful that he warned about people like him in his writings. That's the biggest benefit of reading Nietzsche 😉 His self-awarnes makes him very unique

Im 939.

The priests who invented responsibility are not responsible for having invented it. Don't blame them!

Caloric restriction has actually been demonstrated to extend lifespan.

12 ounces of food is exceeded by 14 ounces of wine which is caloric, meaning food. I don't know if you have a genuine education. But I dount it.

So what were the 4 great errors? better if these were listed somewhere. then people would not need to watch video. a simple list could save so many people a lot of time.

Awesome perspective. Free will vs Determinism is a false dichotomy. I like that. Believing in Fate seems pretty based.

Chicken or Egg

Libertarianism doesn’t have a free will philosophy. Or, at least it’s atheistic when it comes to it despite individual adherents personal beliefs.

If anyone wants to understand this line of thought that springs from romanticism i'd recommend listening to the excellent isiah berlin lectures on romanticism. Going from Roussoue, to Kant, then to Herder, to Nietzsche. But the idea that you cannot compartmentalize any one phenomenon of your biological totality in drives, extinct etc, comes straight from Romanticism. And that line of thinking overlaps heavily with early Marxs conception of Alienation and also a left communist sympathy in regard to how capitalism and instrumental labor is a long, historical process of turning ones self (or others) in to an alienated instrument of production that estranges oneself, and creates this rationalization of parts in property, money, objects', time, space etc. Leading to those who fetishizes this process to self-exploiting via a efficiency criteria that can then start to expand and dominate others in that process, making other labor subordinated in this institutionalized process. You'll find this kind of left communism has strong parallels with a lot of romantic and even Nietzschean thought and i think is a pretty fruitful in explaining a lot of the social psychological problems of mental health that plague modern man, and one that needs to be "course corrected" if we are to be free of the maladjustments of modernity. Where this radically delineates with Nietzsche is where and what he thinks is "vital" in human phycological drives. Painted by (like most romantics who were the wayward sons, intellectuals, and poets of a declining and displaced aristocracy with a longing for provincial feudalist social relations) the extremely reactionary notions of natural hierarchies, where as obviously any left wing value judgements are more willing to see in mens vital instincts solidarity, cooperation as a driving factor in human vital factors. Though by my sources Nietzsche oscillated between the 2 poles himself. Though those on the right will find a strong justification to "return" to feudal, theocratic, monarchical relations to "fix alienation". "the fathers stern hand to make right the world by power along". Which is ironic but that's what his brand of romanticism pushes towards. Stability through hierarchy in a cycle . Which isn't an answer to anything and more or less completely negates anything of value he had to say in deconstructing the problems with instrumental modes of becoming.

Seems like a rehash of eastern philosophy

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Bruh, WTF man. Are you in some Meta-Physical realm? You have some innate ability? Are you chosen one? Ubermench? WTF man. I was reading Kauffman and the FOUR errors is explained with Nietzsche's perspective. What a f**king Carl Jung's Synchronicity. Kauffman wanted to push the public image/opinion or his intepretation of Nietzsche as an athiest but thats just the surface of his thoughts. "God is Dead" doesnt mean the implication of lack of evidence for God but the so called Christian God or the God of Paul. Something along those lines. That which hinders us. Tames our "Strength". I would like to take this opportunity to ask what do you think of Twilught of the Idols? There he rejects the whole Will to Power, throwing all what he thought away; essentially going back to nothing. Its a strange thing to swallow when you just begin to break into his pehnomenal ideas and thoughts only to be discarded by him later. Even the idea of Ubermench is barely noted. Somehwere in the internet I resd he eas qoutong bible qoutes when agter his insanity. This is to be proved. Thanks for everything. I enjoy your explanation.

The usualcritics. FN is no philosopher. He is a critic, So plan and simple stop calling him a philosopher. The usual critics.

It's starting to look like Fred may have been dead wrong about Cornaro's diet, given conteporary evidence regarding caloric restriction and longevity.

Nietzsche is incomplete without these three Max Stirner Ayn rand Emil cioran But For me only.

Faith is ignorance

His leftist critics!! Haha, ok, then you quote Nietzsche as saying the claim (the right wing claim) for the downfall of society is vice, sexual license, luxury! One can’t drive through a conservative town without this kind of religious moralizing being thrown around. Tell us about Nietzsche without your own virtue signaling, ok. If anything his leftist critics are critics of how the right claims to own Nietzsche and the right wing misinterpretation of his words.

Caloric reduction (or caloric restriction) is back in town and the latest fad in longevity research. Even more it has been demonstrated to be true.

"Demographers estimate that 109 billion people have lived and died over the course of 192,000 years. If we add the number of people alive today, we get 117 billion humans that have ever lived." So who cares what you think or what you have experienced when you die. FORTUNA SEMPER INVICTA. SYMPATHEIA