Did you use a real speaker or an IR?

I chose the JTM ST20H. It's a really hard call, because I do like them all. But, having the JTM, I think I'd probably get a JCM800, if I was buying a second. I prefer the heavier slightly more modern sounding drive tones. And have Fender, Vox & the JTM to do different levels of clean, breakup, crunch and low-mid drive. So, the JCM is the most different to what I have. I guess also I grew up listening to Smashing Pumpkins, My Bloody Valentine, Fugazi, Pixies, Slayer etc, and it really reminds me of those bands. Other thing is, I think I prefer the slightly creamier sounding Sovtek / EHX Mig 50 to the brighter Plexi, for Bassman based loud amps. Plexi sounds a bit edgier to me; great if you are more into 70s classic rock. But less so for heavier 90s indie/grunge/psych/garage/stoner/doom styles. And for older sounding vintage 60's tones, I prefer the JTM. The Plexi more brings to mind the tones of bands like AC/DC, Van Halen, Allman Brothers or maybe even Led Zeppelin. It brings to mind stadium rock, in a way that while I appreciate it, it's not my kind of guitar tone.

Dude I’m right with you! Thank you for watching!

Thank you for your kind words and thanks for watching!!!!

Thank you! Yeah, I could t choose either LOL! Thanks for watching!

It’s a monster! Thank you for watching!!!!!!

Thank you - and thanks for watching!

I’m glad I got them both. The differences aren’t Earth shattering but they’re clear enough that it’s worth having both. Thank you for watching!

I really like the SD-1 as well. But I do love the Tube Screamer type circuit as well. Thanks for your kind words and thanks for watching!

I couldn’t agree more! Thanks for watching!

Thanks for your kind words! The Bugera sounds great, but there’s just something about a Marshall-made Plexi. I’d love to try the Suhr SL68 and the Friedman Plex as well. Thanks for watching!

Yes! What a killer tone reference! Thank you for watching!

Thank you Bro! Thanks for watching!

Thank you!! And thanks for watching!

Sweet! I bet that sounds killer! Thank you for watching!

I agree! And I gotta say, as someone who'd never played a Plexi style amp until fairly recently - when you finally play on one it's a huge 'ahhhhh, now I get it' moment. Yeah, they're loud, no way around that. But for the tone and feel, it's well worth it! Thanks for your kind words and Thanks for watching!

@@TheGuitarNerdShow I bought the Xotic sl drive one week ago and use it on the clean channel of my fireball 100 stacked with boss sd 1 and that gives a really good sound. It's close enough to the real thing. It funny how it changed how I play just to fit the sound.

LMAO - Man, you gotta gimme some swag Bro, I'll wear it! Thanks for watching!

I’ll be honest, I was shocked when I first heard these amps at how loud they are! Thanks for your kind words and thanks for watching!

They both need an attenuator.

LOL - I just played it on a whim, haven't tried to practice that in quite a while, so I won't lie and say I nailed it in one take LOL!!!! Thanks for watching!

The chorus is in front. Thanks for watching!

I’m gonna have to give that a try! I bet it’ll be ridiculously cool! Thanks for watching!

Wow, thank you!

Hey Jules, thanks for your kind words! Now see, while the AC/DC thing is a prominent Plexi sound, so was classic EVH, Jake E Lee, Randy Roads, some of George Lynch’s Dokken stuff, Scorpions, Ace Frehley and, of course, Yngwie. I’ve never played an actual Plexi, the SV20 is the only actual Marshall Plexi type circuit I’ve played (I did used to own a Bugera 1960 - it’s a Plexi clone but, as I’ve since learned, a real Plexi is a different beast) but what strikes me about them is that all these cats were playing some kind of Plexi but they all managed to stand apart from each other. So my hypothesis is that such an open, organic type amp is somewhat of a neutral platform that lets a players individuality shine through. Or not. It’s more of a theory TBH. Now, that said, my ‘signature’ sound is my Marshall JCM2000 DSL100 with Voodoo Amps’ Senes mod. I like a lot of gain, crunch and balls. I’m shooting another video tomorrow, that amp will feature heavily in it. Thanks for watching and, again, for your kind words!!!

The pedals are in front of the Thanks for watching!

Yeah I’m partial to the Plexi as well. Thanks for your kind words! And thanks for watching!

Thank you for your kind words! Yeah I get it. I don't think I could ever use these live without an attenuator. Heck, I play a Kemper live to get around volume concerns LOL! Thank you for watching!

Yes! Thank you for watching!

Thank you for your kind words! I need to give that a try! Thanks for watching!

I’d love to have any Friedman!!!! Thanks for your kind words and for watching!

I have a modified DSL100 (JCM2000 series) & I definitely agree about the green channel. I had it modified by Trace at Voodoo Amps & one of the things I asked him to do was to even out the low end response between the green and red channels - one eq setting just didn't work for both channels - now it's way more even. I think the green channel gets close to the JCM800 & at times I even prefer it. That said, there's just something gnarly about a real 800 (and the SC20 as well) that the DSL doesn't get. I bought the SC and SV20's from a shop in Europe so I was able to get them for a fair bit less than shops here in the States charge. I didn't bother with the dedicated speaker cabs. I've got enough 4x12's, I don't need any more cluttering up the room LOL!!!!! Thank you for watching!

Ya know, I’m a rock/metal player at my heart but I get more use from the Plexi. Then again, I also like the shreddy stuff & what’s better for that than a Plexi? Thanks again for watching!

That’s an issue people have long had with these amps - because all of the overdrive happens at the phase inverter and power tubes, the EQ is largely non responsive. Turning up the controls mostly just adds to the overdrive. At lower volume levels it’s way more responsive but then you don’t have that Plexi roar! Thank you for watching!

Thank you for the kind words. To my ears they BOTH sound and feel fantastic!

I don't. Being a 150 watt amp that needs to be seriously cranked to breathe, I just couldn't get away with it here at home. The MV is nice and well executed, but it does affect tone. So I ended up selling to a friend who loves it! Thank you for watching!

@@TheGuitarNerdShow amazing. Did you consider a load box?

I don’t, I sold it to a friend. While the PPIMV is very good, it’s not 100% transparent & cranking a 100 watt Plexi at home was just too loud. Thank you for watching!

Both of these amps are fairly loud, too loud for a lot of people to use at home. I haven’t tried the mini Jubilee but O do have the 100 watt version and can get some decent sounds at a comfortable volume. Thanks for watching!

Excellent choice the mini jubilee. I've got it. You can play at low volume. I play with 2 amps in stereo : min jubilee and Marshall origin 20h. I use a attenuator only with the origin

I get where you'e coming from but, TBH, the majority of people don't look to these amps for the cleans. That said, that might be an interesting video - Marshall - The Cleans... Thanks for the heads up and thank you for watching!

@@TheGuitarNerdShow thanks bro

Thanks for subscribing! I think it depends on what kind of tone and feel you're going for. For heavy chunky stuff, the Plexi probably wouldn't be my first choice, at least as the main sound. But for shreddy stuff I love it, and for that old school Marshall raunch, I love it! Thanks for watching!

@@TheGuitarNerdShow exactly! I have a couple high gain amps, so knee jerk reaction I think Plexi - that organic distortion buddy POPS when running 2 amps

They do! That's what I meant when I said they both have that 'Marshall thing' going. But they changed just enough to make the JCM800 a different beast. Thanks for watching!!!

@@TheGuitarNerdShow I dont own a Marshall at the moment, my main amp is a Mark V 25. My next will be a Marshall, love the glassy cleans and dynamics.

I’ve played it that way and it does sound good, but I get the amount of breakup I like at around 6 on the volumes. Thanks for watching!

Yeah? I’m kinda partial to the Plexi as well! Thanks for watching!

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

@@TheGuitarNerdShow you have great sound here. I like it. What's the signal chain?

@@cembobiohazard7779thank you! The guitar runs into my Voodoo Labs Hex loop switcher which allows me to switch various pedals into and out of the chain. From there to my KHE ACS8x4 Amp Cab Switcher. This allows me to switch amps and cabs. For this video I used a no name cab loaded with Celestion G12 EVH Speakers. The cab is mic’d as follows: SM57 and Sennheiser 421 (U5 revision) at the edges of the dust cap. SE Electronics VR1 Ribbon Mic slightly off center of cone. JZ Microphones Vintage 67 Condenser Mic dead center of cone. Mics are blended in UAD Console & sent through an Aux to 1 channel in Logic Pro. When I’m recording I generally use 1 channel per mic but for videos, especially those using more than one amp, I use one channel in Logic to avoid confusion and keep things consistent. I’m glad you like it! Thanks again!

I don’t agree .. try the low input with the master volume full …not a plexi but..very very close

@@rarito1976 I know, it is close, but I can still hear that 800 compressions, especially that hi-end 'sand'. I have 2203 1983. With preamp-gain low and master turned up to get that great power-amp saturation I get close to plexi. I'm not able to tell the difference in the mix on the stage but from a record nicely done like this one I can hear a massive difference.

Interesting! I’m definitely gonna have to check this out. Thanks for the tip! And thanks for watching!

That’s exactly what I was trying to show. On both amps, once they’re cranked, the EQ’s aren’t very responsive. In retrospect, I should’ve shown the EQ on both with the volumes lower - they’re more responsive when not cranked. But with the Plexi, to get good distortion you have to crank it. With the JCM800 Marshall was trying to alleviate that by adding the master volume - the theory being you could crank the preamp gain without cranking the Master - hence more drive and EQ responsiveness at a lower volume. But it just sounds so much better when it’s cranked LOL! Thanks for your kind words and thanks for watching!

Right on! Thanks for watching!