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Terrible Writing Advice

Terrible Writing Advice

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@SchneeflockeMonsoon
@SchneeflockeMonsoon 2 жыл бұрын
“The mere love triangle is nowhere near *powerful* enough…” He’s gone off the deep end folks.
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 2 жыл бұрын
We have transcended to the hyper triangle
@snekysneks
@snekysneks 2 жыл бұрын
love dodecahedron
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader
@ChocolateMilkCultLeader 2 жыл бұрын
hhahahaha
@junconglin
@junconglin 2 жыл бұрын
WE NEED 4D LOVE PLOTS 2D AND 3D ARE TOO WEAK
@alexjewett7455
@alexjewett7455 2 жыл бұрын
Was he ever in the shallow end?
@ruleofoz2207
@ruleofoz2207 2 жыл бұрын
"no married couples allowed in Urban fantasy!" Well that's not true at all! Who else is going to die to show that the story is super serious and dark?
@Keram-io8hv
@Keram-io8hv 2 жыл бұрын
Thats true! Think about protagonists parents
@jordanholt9170
@jordanholt9170 2 жыл бұрын
Easy! Any number of extras could die to show that the series is getting super serious and dark, including the protagonist's friends, siblings, girlfriend/boyfriend, comedic relief, or just a random person on the street. The most important thing to remember when killing off characters is that characters dying is inherently dark and serious and should therefore be used at all times when a character is no longer needed for the plot, because the story gets darker and more serious the more people are killed off. Also, these character deaths should be used to give the protagonist the push they need in the moment, but should hold little long-term consequences, no matter the relationship with the protagonist. The protagonist should have the same reaction to the guy down the street dying as they do for their best friend of many years dying.
@ChiakiNanami736
@ChiakiNanami736 2 жыл бұрын
Or to show how all marriages are secretly dysfunctional so their daughter should just hop into bed with whoever? 🙄
@platinumchromee3191
@platinumchromee3191 2 жыл бұрын
"A couple of married demons gets curb-stomped by protagonist with holy intents"
@g.k684
@g.k684 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! The tragic couple who has a cute baby child who usually has magical powers that gets adopted and then later gets forgotten by the protagonist to show how kindhearted they are and doesn’t highlight how sloppy the writing is. A classic.
@nikolascoffey6453
@nikolascoffey6453 2 жыл бұрын
Always edgy eh? Now I'm tempted to write an urban fantasy starring a super whitebread suburban dad who makes a living bounty hunting rogue wizards to support his 3 kids.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds amazing.
@Tmanowns
@Tmanowns 2 жыл бұрын
Norm Finnegan, Vampire Slayer. Cut to a montage of Norm equipping his gear: stakes, blades, silver, a quick combing of his bushy mustache, and tying the laces of his white new balances, stained with grass juice and old blood.
@nikolascoffey6453
@nikolascoffey6453 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine a seedy bar scene where he walks in dressed in a tucked in polo shirt, sits at the bar and orders a Shirley temple (aka sprite and grenadine). He talks to the bartender and just avoids using profanity the whole time.
@anthonydavid3348
@anthonydavid3348 2 жыл бұрын
I’m down with every idea presented here
@Tmanowns
@Tmanowns 2 жыл бұрын
@@nikolascoffey6453 instead of being like Supernatural's Sam and Dean with a classic muscle car, he takes his kids on a cross country road trip all summer in an RV, with hidden weapons all over the place.
@dew-it8744
@dew-it8744 2 жыл бұрын
There’s actually 4 Bs, the last being BIG ASS SWORD.
@darkservantofheaven
@darkservantofheaven 2 жыл бұрын
And his rival must have a katana
@SterneStarfrost
@SterneStarfrost 2 жыл бұрын
The bigger the better for the forced berserk reference, surely the fans will consume anything with a reference in it
@SterneStarfrost
@SterneStarfrost 2 жыл бұрын
@@darkservantofheaven or a rapier
@BlackIce3190
@BlackIce3190 2 жыл бұрын
Or big fucking gun.
@hellacoorinna9995
@hellacoorinna9995 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh, you mean a garou glaive?
@ShadowDogProduction
@ShadowDogProduction 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy. If we can do reloaded versions, that gives this channel a never ending supply of topics!
@pokemonmaster0079
@pokemonmaster0079 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that he can also now do "Revolutions" versions and "Resurrections" versions.
@Michael-di7bg
@Michael-di7bg 2 жыл бұрын
In the future: *A Reloaded of a Reloaded!*
@arcticlaw9198
@arcticlaw9198 2 жыл бұрын
The best writers always recycle their previous ideas
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
@@pokemonmaster0079 what about "redux", "revamped", and "remake/made" (it works for video games). Oh and can't forget about remastered. Seriously this is a great way to look back at old topics with how much the channel has grown (or even how the genre has changed (which they constantly are)). There are a lot of older videos I'd l8ve to see in his current style, if only to throw in the TWA expanded universe ad segment (but really it does feel like JP has adapted his advice overtime (like the Mary Sue video feels dated when you see a comment about how calling character's Mary Sue's now has gone from criticism to bland insult)).
@kotzpenner
@kotzpenner 2 жыл бұрын
@@vullord666 Don't forget "Retold"
@SchneeflockeMonsoon
@SchneeflockeMonsoon 2 жыл бұрын
I love the lore drawn on. Ancient religions, ancient mythologies, a weirdo from Rhode Island, the writer of modern English Folklore who wrote the literal book on worldbuilding, and then a dash of anime which is assumed to be correct to the actual Mythos.
@eduardopantoja9115
@eduardopantoja9115 2 жыл бұрын
@today was a good day Dude go away
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
@@eduardopantoja9115 this in like every chain. I get the sense that youtube link is not something I'd want my parents to watch. At this point just report and hope youtube bothers to do anything. Trolls hardly ever actually care when confronted.
@AntheaRutherford
@AntheaRutherford 2 жыл бұрын
@@eduardopantoja9115 I don't rember why, but I'd already blocked this person. Obviously I was correct in my assessment.
@Hideyoshi1991
@Hideyoshi1991 2 жыл бұрын
WHERE JESUS AND BUDDY NOT ROOMMATES?????
@PokefanGuquizUjixyz
@PokefanGuquizUjixyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@vullord666 the comment or the user? I sometimes do both.
@BayaRae
@BayaRae 2 жыл бұрын
A good writer avoids all the tropes JP mentions. A great writer uses all of them and creates an engaging story anyway.
@ellugerdelacruz2555
@ellugerdelacruz2555 2 жыл бұрын
Well Said.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 2 жыл бұрын
Technically some of these tropes can't really be avoided given the genre, but I get the sentiment.
@richmondamoah4536
@richmondamoah4536 2 жыл бұрын
Dresden files
@SiRenfield
@SiRenfield 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I actually deconstruct some of these tropes ones my story and not in a 🎵darkness! No parents!🎵 sort of way (….well mostly, this story is still dark just not grimdark) more of in an examining the tropes sort of way
@bubbasbigblast8563
@bubbasbigblast8563 2 жыл бұрын
The setting is as much of a character as any of the protagonists, so at least it's consistent when the writers choose the one setting so bland that they don't have to describe it at all.
@Henry258654
@Henry258654 2 жыл бұрын
I created a fictional city for my novel set in modern day Brazil and had to worldbuild it just as much 🤷
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if a writer is not going to bother to improve their story, they can at least write a consistently bland story so I don't feel compelled to read any part of it.
@Petrico94
@Petrico94 2 жыл бұрын
"It's this place you already know the look of combined with this stuff you're meant to think is outlandish and exciting but are also very familiar with. Moving on, my stand in is super great."
@HappyCynic
@HappyCynic 2 жыл бұрын
Mega City One in Judge Dredd is literally the comedian to Judge Dredd"s straight man.
@tizianovalicenti8432
@tizianovalicenti8432 2 жыл бұрын
in my story's lore, it's not that complex. earth is the most overpopulated planet in the universe, you can get superpowers due to a space rock, wojaks do not exists (i'm just tired of seein them, specialy the edits), and it's located in a city that it's never stated where it's located like springfield, that's it, that's the whole lore.
@OokamiKageGinGetsu
@OokamiKageGinGetsu 2 жыл бұрын
"If the protagonist happens to be a guy then the cover artist will give him a hat no matter how much he doesn't wear it in the story." Subtle Harry Dresden reference.
@OokamiKageGinGetsu
@OokamiKageGinGetsu 2 жыл бұрын
I take it back. The whole video is loosely a subtle Harry Dresden reference.
@matthiasbindl7085
@matthiasbindl7085 2 жыл бұрын
tbf the whole thing is an in joke between the author and the publisher
@OokamiKageGinGetsu
@OokamiKageGinGetsu 2 жыл бұрын
@@matthiasbindl7085 Yep. It started with the first book.
@TheStonewall117
@TheStonewall117 2 жыл бұрын
PARCORE!!!!
@eleethtahgra7182
@eleethtahgra7182 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheStonewall117 one does not yell parkour. One simply do parkour.
@rawvegankid
@rawvegankid 2 жыл бұрын
"I suffer from depression and one of my symptoms is an uncontrollable urge to embezzle money." Is CRIMINALLY underrated and make me laugh SO hard.
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of "reloaded" videos to tackle tropes covered years ago. The reason given at 0:32 sums it up the best. Writing (and reading for that matter) isn't a static process. We constantly become better versed in literature (no matter how much of an expert we may be) and actually gain new insights over time. I've read the same book several times and noticed something new each. When talking about a whole genre this is just multiplied by a thousand.
@willparry530
@willparry530 2 жыл бұрын
indeed!
@KuroiShiAnimu
@KuroiShiAnimu 2 жыл бұрын
It's also because new books are being written which tend to be influenced by what's currently happening in the real world so sums of those books pave the way for the evolution of the genre
@SomeGuy-gc8zs
@SomeGuy-gc8zs 2 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but the genre overall will change over time, bringing different tropes, pitfalls, concepts and real-world influences into play. The world in which Dragon Ball was written is very clearly not the same world in which Fairy Tail was written.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 2 жыл бұрын
Mental health?! Thatsbig.
@willparry530
@willparry530 2 жыл бұрын
@@marocat4749 verrrry big
@Tsukiru
@Tsukiru 2 жыл бұрын
"Will the tone come off as juvenile? I don't know, I can't hear it" got a solid chuckle from me, goddamn
@gamedome8802
@gamedome8802 2 жыл бұрын
?
@banjofangirl3458
@banjofangirl3458 Жыл бұрын
@@gamedome8802 tone deaf
@L_mattox
@L_mattox Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who wants to write an urban fantasy story where the magic and fantasy is out in the open, and really just serves as a setting. Like, where Walmart and CVS has fur shampoo for werewolves, satyrs and kitsune, there are special cars made for centaurs, and there’s just a culture of unicorn racing in Kentucky. That kind of thing?
@addgame7961
@addgame7961 Жыл бұрын
It’s interesting but you need to be extra careful with putting them together to make sure the story don’t look like Frankenstein’s monster. For example, unicorn races, using some of the usual unicorn depictions, they are one of last things that should be in a race. And if you change them too much, they would just be a horse with a horn and maybe some magic. It’s not a bad thing depending on what you are trying to do, but you should keep the changes in mind.
@thescarytransperson
@thescarytransperson Жыл бұрын
the sims
@ezure3087
@ezure3087 Жыл бұрын
Honestly I feel that cofee talk is a good urban fantasy that does something like that
@chefboyardee2223
@chefboyardee2223 8 ай бұрын
Theres a series called serafina dragonborn that at times can be immensely cringe inducing but does have that kind of setting. When it isn't doing a 50 shades of grey ripoff it's a fun urban fantasy with decent world building but a bit of a dumbass ending.
@ghifariasoka8272
@ghifariasoka8272 7 ай бұрын
I can see people or creature that can cast fire magic buying more sweets and vegetables because casting fire magic burns more calories and sugars
@robertb7293
@robertb7293 2 жыл бұрын
"One of those tryhards that makes things up from scratch." Hooray! I'm participating!
@maxthepaladin2147
@maxthepaladin2147 2 жыл бұрын
Tryhard gang!
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 2 жыл бұрын
tryhard gang represent also if I made an urban fantasy setting then wizards would either run on coffee or on caster sugar, meaning magic's rare because they suck at staying healthy
@rubenantoniogaxiolaaguilar9463
@rubenantoniogaxiolaaguilar9463 2 жыл бұрын
imagine not making your own mythology from scratch This comment was made by the TRYHARD GANG
@serencefrostbite3362
@serencefrostbite3362 2 жыл бұрын
1:52 "why does the protagonist keep a job that requires facing down mythical monsters and doesn't pay a living wage?" dude this is basically retail
@Piromanofeliz
@Piromanofeliz 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@Newfiecat
@Newfiecat 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, the "Karen" is the most terrifying monster of all.
@canaisyoung3601
@canaisyoung3601 2 жыл бұрын
An urban fantasy about a retail worker hunting monsters who shop at his or her (or xir/their, if you want a nonbinary character) store?
@richardarriaga6271
@richardarriaga6271 Жыл бұрын
@@canaisyoung3601 That's Five Nights at Freddy's
@andrasfogarasi5014
@andrasfogarasi5014 9 ай бұрын
@@Piromanofeliz Original comment is a positive statement. However, the term "based" can only be applied to normative statements. Try learning the meanings of words before using them.
@trailguidealex5010
@trailguidealex5010 2 жыл бұрын
I've always liked how the Percy Jackson series handled choosen ones. There are people destined to do certain important things but their are multiple candidates so their is no one set choosen one untill Apollo later on. It makes you focus on more then one chacter while also making you feel nervous which one is gonna bite the bullet of the nastier part of the prophecy. It really nails prophecy in greek mythology but also challenging the choosen one trope
@trackingdifbeatsaber8203
@trackingdifbeatsaber8203 2 жыл бұрын
Chainsaw man it's a pretty good urban fantasy it's gets very dark though but dose have somethings in common.
@Razor1473
@Razor1473 2 жыл бұрын
@@trackingdifbeatsaber8203 If we're bringing up weeb shit, and you're into visual novels, check out Tsukihime and the (2004) Fate/Stay Night visual novel, not the anime. Pretty damn good as far as urban fantasy goes.
@trackingdifbeatsaber8203
@trackingdifbeatsaber8203 2 жыл бұрын
@@Razor1473 I didn't have a good time with the anime dropped it around episode 5 so probably won't. however with lockdown I have plenty of time i didnt really like anything about it what dose the graphic novel do better?
@lordmoncef5494
@lordmoncef5494 2 жыл бұрын
@@trackingdifbeatsaber8203 if u re goin to watch anime just watch fate zero Fate stay night night are garbage
@BlackIce3190
@BlackIce3190 2 жыл бұрын
They do this in the Monster Hunter International series. There are multiple chosen ones who serve as champions for various factions.
@ishanaprabhakar7542
@ishanaprabhakar7542 2 жыл бұрын
I actually had a D20 nearby when the urban fantasy plot generator came up. So I decided to give it a shot. First there's an Ikea Love Scene, then an attack by faeries, followed by an attack by necromancers then a make outs session with a primary love interest, then a love scene with a secondary love interest, which has a 3 page description of their kiss, and then their attacked by werewolves. Doesn't this sound like something you would like to have in the middle of you urban fantasy novel?
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын
Well, being attacked by faeries in an IKEA store would be a fun scene, but the rest is shit. :)
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын
Or you know what would be actually interesting? An IKEA store inhabited by Wichtel/Heinzelmännchen who have mistaken it for a real home. They would like to do some housework, but they can't because everything is always perfect and it drives them crazy. But then a Poltergeist moves in and throws stuff around and the Wichtel are happy, because they are now able to help out and fulfill what they consider their purpose.
@shadow_shine3578
@shadow_shine3578 2 жыл бұрын
Only if it's the scp ikea.
@foisopracurtir6389
@foisopracurtir6389 2 жыл бұрын
"Can you freaks let me do the horizontal tango in peace?! Geez..."
@dmas7749
@dmas7749 2 жыл бұрын
i got 17, but i don't like writing romance, then i rolled again. got a 9, then 8, 2 and then FINALLY 15 lol
@ThePickledAuthor
@ThePickledAuthor 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why facing down mythical beasts never paid. I mean seriously, how do these agencies fund themselves if they're to be kept secret? Never saw a reloaded coming. I'd love to see more of them!
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised how they even condone hunting rare MYTHOLOGICAL creatures. We protect other animal species that could kill us out of an understanding that endangered species and extinction are bad things for the environment (especially when it's our fault). Actually, how has the entire world's environment not been shaped by the abundance of mythological species (of which there is only ever one member of, but like a billion one membered species).
@felipecosta-kv2fx
@felipecosta-kv2fx 2 жыл бұрын
Because of the government and stuff!
@TARINunit9
@TARINunit9 2 жыл бұрын
Of all the Urban Fantasy series, one of the best to tackle this plot point was actually Devil May Cry. Yes, the wacky woohoo pizza man himself. And the answer is: demon hunting actually DOES pay well if you know what you're doing. But Dante is just really bad at managing his money, he blows all his money on designer coats until he doesn't even have enough money for pizza and utility bills. So in the DMC franchise, you have to be extra sure that you didn't dump ALL your points into demon hunting, and have some left over for basic economics
@SterneStarfrost
@SterneStarfrost 2 жыл бұрын
@@TARINunit9 not only that, but it is also stated that dante actually has to pay for all infrastructure damage his battle with demons cause, and there is also the debt with angelo Dante is very deep into financial problems
@TARINunit9
@TARINunit9 2 жыл бұрын
@@SterneStarfrost Actually I'm kind of curious how he was found liable for any of that. DMC1: unless Mallet Island was declared a UNESCO Heritage Site nobody needs to pay for any of that. DMC2: doesn't fucking exist, so moving on. DMC3: I would think that was Arkham's guilt, because Dante didn't have anything to do with the Temenigru. That said, Dante did lose his first shop in chapter 1, so if he didn't have insurance then yeah he lost a lot of money there. DMC4: not a lot was actually destroyed, just the monolith in the middle of Fortuna square. Though the end-credits scenes show that Dante was never actually paid for that job (Lady nabbed all the money instead)
@tendo649
@tendo649 2 жыл бұрын
The Reboot episode better get a Reloaded, we'll go full circle
@ultron6494
@ultron6494 Жыл бұрын
Oh, it was. And it was good.
@giantpinkcat
@giantpinkcat 2 жыл бұрын
"Does she always wear black to mourn the death of her fashion sense?" Sheesh she's gonna need an ice pack for that one.
@ThePa1riot
@ThePa1riot 2 жыл бұрын
Just started reading Dresden Files. I love how the books decidedly DON’T fall into a lot of these traps. Which isn’t to say they don’t fall into any.
@AaronRotenberg
@AaronRotenberg 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, the hat thing is primarily a Dresden Files joke AFAIK.
@chivasowle286
@chivasowle286 2 жыл бұрын
@@AaronRotenberg agreed - that was the first thing I thought of.
@RorikH
@RorikH 2 жыл бұрын
They are really horny though. Especially in the later ones, when it doesn't have a lot to do with the plot and is honestly just kind of weird and awkward.
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 2 жыл бұрын
@@RorikH Also the whole "I'm low-key sexist but I'm just old-fashioned so that's fine actually" is definitely a choice.
@inspectorjavert8443
@inspectorjavert8443 2 жыл бұрын
@@Healermain15 ugh just don’t read the book. There are plenty of nice PC Saint Sarkesian approved stories you can read.
@qarblins_4288
@qarblins_4288 2 жыл бұрын
Does this mean the J.P. actually is admitting that he did something wrong and is going back to do it over? Sounds like someone has started listening to their inner critic.......
@pg3384
@pg3384 2 жыл бұрын
Nah. It’s just an ez reboot.
@matthewr6148
@matthewr6148 2 жыл бұрын
It's easy to see that this is more like an expansion of the original, rather than a total remake.
@Foxmagik
@Foxmagik 2 жыл бұрын
Seems more like this is the second chapter. Considering what a goldmine of cliches urban fantasy is I don't think even he could contain it in one video.
@cwovictor3281
@cwovictor3281 2 жыл бұрын
Private eye vampire hunter who protects himself with symbols of purity. Garlic, cloves, salt, and being a virgin.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 2 жыл бұрын
Drinks only spring water scooped under a full moon (by a virgin)?
@cwovictor3281
@cwovictor3281 2 жыл бұрын
@@johannageisel5390 An alternate way to defend yourself from vampires is binging fast food. Kill them with your cholesterol.
@canaisyoung3601
@canaisyoung3601 2 жыл бұрын
@@cwovictor3281 And diabetes. Has a diabetic vampire hunter been done before?
@veggsbacon1891
@veggsbacon1891 2 жыл бұрын
The "sequel" we never expected, but it's definitely a good welcome. 🍿👏🏽
@TechnoMinarchistBall
@TechnoMinarchistBall 2 жыл бұрын
A suprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
@Petrico94
@Petrico94 2 жыл бұрын
When a Horrible Writing Advice gets a sequel before the new Game of Thrones book is released
@herbertwalter8693
@herbertwalter8693 2 жыл бұрын
@@TechnoMinarchistBall never gets old
@johnyshadow
@johnyshadow 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the "urban fantasy plot generator" chart is missing "Attacked by love interest/s" option. We need to eliminate the extra LIs anyway, to keep the almighty triangle. Edit on next slide: "Or not, we can keep them, I guess." :D
@fluffywolfo3663
@fluffywolfo3663 2 жыл бұрын
Early Dresden Files was _real_ bad about this tbh. I'm still pissed about _one_ betrayal on that scale, two would be enough to make me swear that off forever.
@darienb1127
@darienb1127 2 жыл бұрын
I'd actually think it would be really cool if there was a group of cops or soldiers who were the protagonists of an Urban Fantasy. Like, they discover that something weird is going on, and the more they investigate, they crazier things get. It starts out as just regular soldiers and equipment, but by the end there's guns and frag gernades with silver, Alchemical grenades that they confiscated from a Hag, and i'm pretty sure Dave from Accounting as actually a wizard. ... I feel like i just described Men in Black but with fantasy creatues instead of aliens.
@ahniandfriends123
@ahniandfriends123 2 жыл бұрын
Ever heard this anime called Gate? It is about the Japanese Defense Force fighting against fantasy creatures and elves.
@jedimike7622
@jedimike7622 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahniandfriends123 one of my favorites. In fact, it was the show that got me into the whole anime thing in the first place.
@kalreynolds5829
@kalreynolds5829 2 жыл бұрын
It's a pretty common and solid concept, but it's also what he's describing when he talks about detectives and monsters of the week. X-Files, any anime with government involvement (Death Note, Parasyte), Torchwood, X-Files, etc etc. It's a good simple setup, the detective or cop plot gives a simple procedural formula for creating MOTW stories, which allows them to dole out the fantasy slowly taking from numerous sources. MIB, RIPD, a half a dozen comics characters, Buffy to some extent, though her organisation is informal, all fit this bill. Every Stargate, etc etc.
@kimifw58
@kimifw58 2 жыл бұрын
So the Men in Black comics.
@Captain.Mystic
@Captain.Mystic 2 жыл бұрын
@@ahniandfriends123 Gate is alright but if something like that were to be done in a different way i think i would rather it be done "imperium foot soldiers discover a genestealer cult". In other words instead of one shotting a dragon with a tank they end up in a hot mess that they really arent prepared for.
@SlayingtheGloom
@SlayingtheGloom 2 жыл бұрын
I know this isn't an original idea, and there's tons of these on other channels, but I would like to see your take on magic systems and sci-fi tech. I thought your part about choosing either soft or hard magic and then not bothering to stick to it was hilarious. I can only imagine what else you would come up with.
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
He did touch on tech for military applications in his Sci Fi war story video and I think civilian applications minorly in his civilizations video.
@renard6012
@renard6012 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm writing Sci-fi fantasy at the moment, and I want to put in the effort to make all parts plausible enough, or as plausible as it gets when you have mech knights fighting gravity-bending space Kaijus, and ancient wars between deities who represent the fundamental forces of the cosmos in which they fling galaxies at each other. For instance, the energy source of most very high-tech equipment is linked to magic. Magic comes from a parallel universe where everything is energy, and wormholes are used by the "magical" factions, while the other factions use warp drives. But the magic factions don't rule the universe because technology is more advanced than magic, at the cost of spending more energy. AI exists and can achieve sentience and self-awareness, but not everything is controlled by AI because there's a hostile alien species of energy beings who appear in deep-space and hijack electronic equipment, making entire fleets of "Robot zombies" and "Spaceship zombies" who can, in large numbers, devastate entire regions of space. But everything is fine if you turn your ship's systems off and scare them away with a few shots. Those creatures in reality come from the same parallel universe as magic, and are related to Fairies. (Fairies are also energy beings, and the undisputed masters of magic, but since they require very little resources to meet their needs, they only inhabit a single star system, the mythical Fatum (provisional name) star system.) Anyways, I enjoy the worldbuilding aspect of writing. And it's an excellent source for ideas. People have to do it more.
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
@@renard6012 Damn, I love those concepts. Getting very Babylon 5 or Farscape vibes. Reminds me of some stuff I had cooking in my head that I never wrote down cause I have a separate more grounded Sci Fi and a Fantasy setting.
@frankwest5388
@frankwest5388 2 жыл бұрын
The main reason to separate hard and soft magic has to do with your stories conflicts that must be resolved. Think of it like this. If you want magic to be part of the problems solution, you don’t want it to feel like an asspull. Which is why you need a somewhat hard one, since otherwise it becomes unclear how the problem was solved and will feel cheap. If magic has an only limited impact on problem solving, or just causes them, going soft is generally preferred. Since you otherwise waste time and limit the audiences imagination, on what’s possible.
@spacetacos7574
@spacetacos7574 2 жыл бұрын
So you mean game based plots Technically he’s already done them
@darklitebug
@darklitebug 2 жыл бұрын
"I suffer from depression, and one of my symptoms is an uncontrollable urge to embezzle money!" Finally! Someone understands my pain!
@lazyliu
@lazyliu 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for "Urban Fantasy Revolutions" and "Urban Fantasy Resurrections"
@fluffywolfo3663
@fluffywolfo3663 2 жыл бұрын
and then SON OF URBAN FANTASY.
@lordanubis1458
@lordanubis1458 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget about Urban Fantasy: Revenge of the Island!
@gonzoengineering4894
@gonzoengineering4894 4 ай бұрын
And finally, just Urban Fantasy again so anyone talking about it has to include the publication date in parentheses every. Single. Time.
@purplehaze2358
@purplehaze2358 2 жыл бұрын
I feel both seen and called out when he discussed stockpiling mythologies because that’s pretty much what I did and am still doing for my circles of hell.
@morganmiller41
@morganmiller41 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a let Dr chef know you're on the internet again
@kingturboturtlednoc5722
@kingturboturtlednoc5722 2 жыл бұрын
Godamnit Bright got through the firewall again
@deactivated6252
@deactivated6252 2 жыл бұрын
Guys, let Dr. Bright do this to keep his focus away from the all-purpose coffee machine. At least he won't order cups of Explodium anytime soon.
@willparry530
@willparry530 2 жыл бұрын
@@deactivated6252 This is true...at least this activity is harmless...mostly anyway
@runningcommentary2125
@runningcommentary2125 2 жыл бұрын
Dante himself stuck Greek mythology into his Circles of Hell, so you're in good company.
@PantherCat64
@PantherCat64 2 жыл бұрын
While I'm here with some guys boss asking why he was late for work and he answered "Oh yeah, there was a bunch of fairies messing with the traffic lights on Luther street, took about three hours before someone could come and clear them out." and that being a completely normal answer and a reasonable excuse of being late to work. As the witch secretary finally finishing up the brew that should help Joe stop coughing so much that's making it harder for everyone to get their work finished.
@michelveilleux1275
@michelveilleux1275 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a Hellboy thing. Wont lie. 😅
@TARINunit9
@TARINunit9 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for "Franchise Reboots Reloaded" ONE YEAR LATER: I was joking!
@faerylnhiikira1053
@faerylnhiikira1053 2 жыл бұрын
I think you mean "Franchise Reboots Rebooted".
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 2 жыл бұрын
That would be uncomfortably meta, but this is not "Amazing Writing Advice", so I'm all for it.
@marocat4749
@marocat4749 2 жыл бұрын
Frenchise reboots rebooted yayyy
@canaisyoung3601
@canaisyoung3601 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know. Since a lot of the reboots are trying to be more racially and sexually diverse, he may wuss out or gloss over it. Speaking of which, anyone who doesn't think that urban fantasy can be or shouldn't be used as a metaphor for racial and ethnic discrimination has never seen this short-lived Comedy Central show "Ugly Americans". It might have been hit-or-miss on it, but it did do it.
@Dreigonix
@Dreigonix 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s not urban fantasy if it’s not weirdly horny all the time!” JP. Please stop typing my urban-fantasy writing so hard. It’s not ALL the time. D:
@RorikH
@RorikH 2 жыл бұрын
I love The Dresden Files, but Jim Butcher needs to write with both hands.
@fluffywolfo3663
@fluffywolfo3663 2 жыл бұрын
@@RorikH aaaaaaaamen to that brotha
@josesosa3337
@josesosa3337 2 жыл бұрын
Mortal instruments. Enough said.
@MuttMagician
@MuttMagician 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost like humans are weirdly sexual sometimes
@lechant7991
@lechant7991 2 жыл бұрын
@@RorikH thanks I'm stealing that
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
"Try hards who make this up from scratch" Me - quietly sweeps away the fact that my fantasy setting has literally millions of years of history that is just to explain why the gods are dying out. Granted, none of it is written down. But the fact that its all in my head probably doesn't help much.
@QseftJohn
@QseftJohn 2 жыл бұрын
Write it down, all of it. Once you stop day dreaming about your world, it starts to fade fast. I drew some concept art a while ago, and I barely remember what was for or I forget completely and the overly simplified note I made, make no sense.
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
@@QseftJohn This isn't the important stuff, just me being extra. This would only come up if A) Kalendros wakes up (not happening) or B) if I decide to use it to show Lier becoming omnipotent, which is not going to happen because I won't have room in between....what is the gender for a Rebis? I'll just call Lier's final state (s)he. Anyway, won't have room between (s)he having a heartfelt discussion with the reader while I try to silence them because they passed the 4th wall. I am an ambitious bastard.
@piotrszczupak
@piotrszczupak 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowofhawk55 I feel you man, I constantly think how awesome my worlds are, but are to distract to actually write it. I recommend making notes to not get lost in your mythos, that can be fun all on it's own
@calamitoso0066
@calamitoso0066 2 жыл бұрын
I think that you sould write it as a guide then, if your story becomes a commercial success, you can always make several books with the lore so even your grandkids can live from it. 😉😉
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
@@calamitoso0066 Nah, I ain't Tolkien. His stuff is infinitely better than the dark fantasy shit I come up with.
@pickyphysicsstudent201
@pickyphysicsstudent201 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the secret magical fantasy world must be kept secret from the regular world because humanity isn't ready for the truth. I have a special hatred for that trope because I have never read a story in which the fantasy world was common knowledge and it lead to strife or conflict. It's a background detail for the setting. Its funny because half the writers believe learning the truth would be too much for humans, whereas the other half thinks humans would be fine. So half of them are stupid.
@thelakai7960
@thelakai7960 2 жыл бұрын
Two urban fantasy series with no secret world: the Kate Daniels series by Ilona Andrews (hybrid between postapocalytic fights against mythological monsters and the crime noir aspect of urban fantasy) and The Hollows by Kim Harrison (a witch, a vampire and a clan of pixies living together in a old church). Both have romantic subplots (without beimg the main focus) and magic is common knowledge and common use of spells in everyday life.
@brandonvelde5774
@brandonvelde5774 2 жыл бұрын
Luminine (not sure if spelled correctly) is a story about a young witch and a werewolf in fantasy world similar to our own.
@genericname2747
@genericname2747 2 жыл бұрын
I think Animorphs handles this pretty well, even though it's technically sci-fi and not urban fantasy. Oh no! Alien slugs are taking over the world! We have to keep this a secret! Because we don't know who is secretly an alien slug, and trusting the wrong person will lead to us being caught and most likely tortured and eventually killed. If we fall, the world is doomed. And spoilers. The world finds out about the alien slugs, when the protagonists realize things have gotten to complex for 4 kids and some aliens to stop.
@Karak-_-
@Karak-_- 2 жыл бұрын
What about the words when paranormal is a "self keeping secret"? So when mundie sees something supermatural, they either forget or their mind forcefully rationalize it. (Sometimes it kills the supernatural thing in question.)
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 2 жыл бұрын
What about if the reason is a combination some sort of side effect from the industrial revolution and the fantasy world's politics.
@Ampheon181
@Ampheon181 2 жыл бұрын
"Will the tone come across as juvenile? I don't know, I can't hear it." 10/10 wordplay
@Ashtonyss
@Ashtonyss 2 жыл бұрын
"If your protagonist happens to be a guy, the cover artist will give him a hat no matter how much he never wears it in the story." Harry "Not a hat guy" Dresden reporting in.
@JeevesAnthrozaurUS
@JeevesAnthrozaurUS 2 жыл бұрын
When you want to write stories about wizards, werewolves, and vampires, but they absolutely must take place in [Insert Real Life City here] with recognizable landmarks for scene setting
@brandonvelde5774
@brandonvelde5774 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, and you can't have it take place in a more obscure city like Omsk or Utrecht for example. Or just, you know, use your imagination and create your own city.
@KriegshetzerSob
@KriegshetzerSob 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that people live in Omsk is already fantasy as is.
@mynamejeff3545
@mynamejeff3545 2 жыл бұрын
That's the point though. Years and years of advertising and media exposure has given places like New York, London and Paris a reputation so far from reality, they've become myths in themselves. Everyone knows the idealized, Hollywood-movie version of these cities and what it represents, just like everyone knows what vampires and werewolves represent. The location is a character in itself, and just like the monsters, it's nothing more than a myth come to life. Yeah, Utrecht is pretty dope, but if you have to explain every landmark, local legend and even the general feel of the city, you might as well write a whole new city into existance.
@thetigerking2613
@thetigerking2613 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynamejeff3545 Why can’t there be a setting in a well known shithole. I want an Urabn Fantasy in an iconic city like Detroit, or Gaza, or 2003 Baghdad.
@mynamejeff3545
@mynamejeff3545 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetigerking2613 That'd be pretty funny. "Yes, there are undead monsters walking around [city] and there have been for centuries. No one has noticed yet because they look better than the human inhabitants."
@ThePa1riot
@ThePa1riot 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I was wondering who was going to emerge as the real villain of the Sponsorship Wars. I guess playing the straight man means the Ancient Conspiracy guy defaults to the smartest man in the room.
@edenmckinley3472
@edenmckinley3472 2 жыл бұрын
"Will the tone be amateurish? I don't know, I can't hear it." Tone-deaf. That burn was so subtle, yet so gorgeous. This video was amazing, especially since it tackles a lot of the issues I have with urban fantasy and why I tend to prefer hardcore fantasy over it.
@WizzyRadius
@WizzyRadius 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully J.P will be able to reload other tropes he's talked about before.
@glitterstar3333
@glitterstar3333 2 жыл бұрын
Love triangle...the sequel
@SpaceMonkeyBoi
@SpaceMonkeyBoi 2 жыл бұрын
ALL problems in writing can be fixed completely with the addition of a love triangle
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
And if that doesn't work throw in a love dodecahedron
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 2 жыл бұрын
Everything in YA stories is just setting for the LOVE TRIANGLE.
@icthulu
@icthulu 2 жыл бұрын
So will you consider doing Scifi space captain eventually? There's certainly enough material out there to trope.
@77professional
@77professional 2 жыл бұрын
A whole space opera episode would be nice.
@renard6012
@renard6012 2 жыл бұрын
Something like Dan Dare or Buck Rogers? I would love to hear about that because I, in all seriousness love, LOVE, Dan Dare...
@nebufabu
@nebufabu 2 жыл бұрын
@@renard6012 Honor Harrington is more like the very model of a modern space captain, at least judging by your average 20xxs space opera series; "Those dumb bureaucratic peacenics loaded our madeupton torpedo launchers with blanks, and now, because of that, Justice Badass and her crew will suffer in the crustacean claws of the C'ommie space invaders... Bud don't worry, she'll live up to her name and spawn an endless stream of sequels."
@floricel_112
@floricel_112 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, what's there to write about? They're always morally righteous, charismatic, attractive (very important), half the female crew is in love with him (also very important), never loses, always flawlessly pulls off "one in a million" maneuvers and plans, eventually becomes the last hope of the universe and he's always whi- *this post has been removed*
@nebufabu
@nebufabu 2 жыл бұрын
@@floricel_112 In other words, prime TWA material.
@kingsleycy3450
@kingsleycy3450 2 жыл бұрын
Bonus point if the real world social commentary is in no way compatible with the magical setting.
@cwovictor3281
@cwovictor3281 2 жыл бұрын
Vampires or dragons portrayed as CEOs of shady corporations because they hoard wealth at the expense of the common people? Nah! Vampires as hot emo guys that never hurt anyone despite being inherently predatory? Real shit!
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
CW's Supergirl is such a prime FUCKING example
@bumblingbureaucrat6110
@bumblingbureaucrat6110 2 жыл бұрын
@@cwovictor3281 Dang, Shadowrun really nailed that part of Dragons.
@useodyseeorbitchute9450
@useodyseeorbitchute9450 2 жыл бұрын
Better would be social commentary which is perfectly in line with supernatural setting: From the moment they stopped burning heretics at the stake the whole society has been in last few centuries inevitably going down the hill.
@cwovictor3281
@cwovictor3281 2 жыл бұрын
@@useodyseeorbitchute9450 Ok, boomer
@Dastankbeets9486
@Dastankbeets9486 2 жыл бұрын
Why would someone work a job fighting monsters if it barely paid? Hmm. Being one of the only people left working for a failing business just for the sake of protecting people could be a very interesting character motive, and could show their struggle against the rest of the cynical world. Cool theme of ideals vs reality. The character could also have a bad attitude to contrast the fundamental heroism of what they’re doing, maybe they feel like the need to act tough to fit into a dark world despite being a nice person.
@moseszero3281
@moseszero3281 2 жыл бұрын
The hat thing got me. EVERY Dresden files cover has him in a hat and he never wears one. The one time someone tries to put him in magical suit of armor he refuses the helmet. Dresden does wear a black duster He is definitely not a blank slate He is antisocial but it gets explained, eventually Most of his books are him getting progressively more beaten up over the course of 2-3 days. Yes on the detective Yes on all of the mythologies
@asalways1504
@asalways1504 2 жыл бұрын
I think Cassandra Clare took all of this advice to heart. Also Are there going to be more redux of older episodes next?
@FishfaceTheDestroyer
@FishfaceTheDestroyer 2 жыл бұрын
Granted I read those books years ago, but I don't actually remember there being an actual reason for the masquerade in those books.
@crocodileguy4319
@crocodileguy4319 2 жыл бұрын
Ooooooh hey I remember reading her books when I was -mentally ill- 13.
@erikrinard7908
@erikrinard7908 2 жыл бұрын
@@crocodileguy4319 I don't think anybody's truly mentally sound at that age, don't know how Middle School teachers deal with it...
@kinorris1709
@kinorris1709 2 жыл бұрын
@@erikrinard7908 Teachers are usually the ones to cause it.
@funybirbman3813
@funybirbman3813 2 жыл бұрын
Who?
@aureliodeprimus8018
@aureliodeprimus8018 2 жыл бұрын
The part at 1:26 made me smile and cringe at the same time. Fedoras are such nice hats to wear, and now they are cursed with association to one of the most pathetic groups of human beings........
@subhamraj5365
@subhamraj5365 Жыл бұрын
Redditors
@aureliodeprimus8018
@aureliodeprimus8018 Жыл бұрын
@@subhamraj5365 I thought of "Nice Guys", but yeah redditors also fit.^^
@adventurerwithacoolhat2531
@adventurerwithacoolhat2531 2 жыл бұрын
I personally am unable to write edgy characters because of an old Roleplay I was in where someone had a murderhobo edgy character. It was absolutely awful. Made me so angry. I mean, the closest I got was an ash manipulator who was just bored with everything. Even then they’d be as edgy as a block of cheese though.
@felipecosta-kv2fx
@felipecosta-kv2fx 2 жыл бұрын
Don't be ashamed of that, maybe your characters are interesting enough that they don't need to be edgy
@phantom1053
@phantom1053 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, a block of cheese *does* have a few edges on it. (Of course, they aren't exactly *sharp* edges, but still...)
@Fenzle
@Fenzle 2 жыл бұрын
Just read some old Heavy Metal or Metal Hurlant magazines. You will find plenty of inspiration to do bloody, boozy and booby stories.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I too hate murderhobos. I can't count the amount of times a campaign had to stop because an idiot pulled a GTA style "massacre"... I was _this_ close to murder several PCs for the first time in years... Luckily those people simply faded away from the table we had, and we went back to good ol' neckbeard drama... I can handle that. In my opinion the only good alignments for role-playing are: Neutral good and lawful evil. All the rest are either boring or annoying derailing trash. Especially the chaotic ones. Those two force you to think before acting. If people need to know the character's alignment to guess how their character is going to act... Well, they should learn how to role-play, because they don't know!
@Fenzle
@Fenzle 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonVigaDeFierro The flaw of the character alignment is that it describes how a character may interact but it's highly inefficient to build a personnality, someone will not be neutral, lawful, evil or whatever all the time with everybody. And some alignment doesn't makes sense to me because it represent the exact same behavior, like the chaotic good and the lawful evil.
@misterskeleton1397
@misterskeleton1397 2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve clicked on this sooner but I had to fight over a black leather-wearing young adult with a hunky fishman.
@C.V317
@C.V317 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! That’s my black leather-wearing young adult! I was cheating on my frenemy with benefits to be with them after they broke up with their vampire/werewolf hybrid SO because it’s the third act and the SO decided to have an emotionless affair with the hunky fishman! Mind you, I only discovered this while following the fishman to a coffee shop, where he flirted with a barista who is secretly a chosen new avatar of Vishnu. And in front of the barista’s angsty detective husband/rival who I am also sleeping with on and off! Screw the love triangle, I’m aiming for a love d20.
@sebastienhardinger4149
@sebastienhardinger4149 2 жыл бұрын
As somebody who loves UF but not the romance sub-genre, this is devastatingly accurate
@misterzygarde6431
@misterzygarde6431 2 жыл бұрын
Insert comment about asking for a crossover world. Also I’d be down for a video on Deconstruction and Reconstruction.
@sxwriter8569
@sxwriter8569 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'd love to see different authors combine their stories to write their own crossover stories.
@thechroniclegamer4285
@thechroniclegamer4285 2 жыл бұрын
@@sxwriter8569 that sounds like Star Wars Legends
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
@@sxwriter8569 collaboration of different author styles is just a fun idea. It's probably more difficult (two writers trying to morph their individual images into one that works), but I'd love to see more of it even if it turns out a mess.
@aimtoart2772
@aimtoart2772 2 жыл бұрын
Every video on the channel is about Deconstruction and Reconstruction in a way. He brings up pit falls and things that do not make sense [deconstruction], and then ironically dismisses all ways to fix them [reconstruction].
@PolymurExcel
@PolymurExcel 2 жыл бұрын
I actually did like how Harry Potter handled the whole chosen one thing. He was actually one of two choices and was chosen because he was the one Voldemort tried to go after and he survived. There is also the prophecy bit.
@theflickchick9850
@theflickchick9850 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the prophecy happened no matter what but it was Voldemort's choice as to who was the Chosen One and for some mysterious reason, he happened to pick Harry.
@emblemblade9245
@emblemblade9245 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because he read the name Neville Longbottom and decided “lmao there’s no way someone like that will be a threat” LIKE A DUMBASS
@WhiteFangofWar
@WhiteFangofWar 2 жыл бұрын
@@emblemblade9245 Tom is after all a man who places a lot of emphasis on COOL-sounding names. Changes his own name to sound COOLER and EDGIER and insists that everyone address him as such or die. He read 'Longbottom' as one of the potential chosen ones and laughed for a week.
@KaiHung-wv3ul
@KaiHung-wv3ul 8 ай бұрын
@@WhiteFangofWar I want J K Rowling to make this canon, she's made a bunch of things canon on a whim, so why not this.
@nitrokid
@nitrokid 2 жыл бұрын
"The cover artist will give him a hat no matter how much he never wears it in the story." Is it Dresden Files? 😂😂😂 Very true.
@UncleJrueForTue
@UncleJrueForTue 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the Urban fantasy revelations. Surely it will be the best of the 3.
@chibiktsn3
@chibiktsn3 2 жыл бұрын
"Will the tone come across as juvenile? I don't know, I can't hear it." This whole video was great and I am so glad you gave this genre a second look.
@PokefanGuquizUjixyz
@PokefanGuquizUjixyz 2 жыл бұрын
11:11 that is perhaps the most animated JP's character has been shown, so far.
@MakeBreezyCringe
@MakeBreezyCringe 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since Dead Meat Started doing The Kill Re-counts I started to notice that YT has been doing more Reloaded style Videos More and more....
@ChrisNinjaEagle
@ChrisNinjaEagle 2 жыл бұрын
9:20 I like that the demon girl is flirty with literally everyone.
@RipOffProductionsLLC
@RipOffProductionsLLC 9 ай бұрын
"I'm not actually attracted to any of you, I'm literally contractually obligated to cause as many extra/pre-marital affairs as possible..." -Sucubitch
@Darkthestral1
@Darkthestral1 2 жыл бұрын
"Ive read more Urban Fantasy so i have much more to complain about!" Me: ahh a kindred spirit
@lisazoria2709
@lisazoria2709 2 жыл бұрын
Ehh, more like he got called out for mistaking paranormal romance with urban fantasy, and now he's making a proper urban fantasy vid. Lol
@delathenleso5793
@delathenleso5793 2 жыл бұрын
You ever feel like the "advice" part of the videos is just a vehicle so we can get to the ad wars storyline?
@skippingstep1515
@skippingstep1515 2 жыл бұрын
My take on diversity: If you want to do it, do some research, don't stick to stereotypes, but keep the diverse cast believable within their cultures and belief systems. If you don't want it, then don't force it, and make the characters distinct enough even if they all belong to the same demographic.
@laurocoman
@laurocoman 2 жыл бұрын
That takes way too much work. Can't I just write them as caricatures of some black sitcom I watched 20 years ago?
@starmaker75
@starmaker75 2 жыл бұрын
nah let me just do stereotypes and tolken stuff, and cause twitter drama
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
Also for the love of God, DIVERSITY IS NOT JUST SKIN COLOR AND SEX! Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?! If every character is acting the exact same it doesn't matter what they look like, there's no actual diversity. A wide range of personality types, backgrounds, unique experiences potentially shaped BY their appearance (appearances alone are not defining in any way, it's how other people and the society around us interact with those appearances that create diversity (and this isn't going to be the same every time (also highly dependent on the setting, so fantasy and Sci fi have a lot more freedom than they act like they do (which should be used to create interesting commentary and not just "it doesn't matter")))), physical and mental impairments, illness, and you know just generally the things that make us different. Hell, race isn't even a real thing in humans. It's a social construct developed and maintained in society. Gender roles are literally determine by society. Yes there are things that make us different in biology or that can be seen immediately, but rich diversity goes much deeper than that. It's a conversation between personality, experience, and the society around you. DIVERSITY DOES NOT EXIST IN APPEARANCE ALONE. What irks me so much is people act like white and black people are Inherently polar opposites in everything at birth or fit into these massive generalizations about their likes in music and TV and hobbies and builds and etc. It truly baffles me how I've never seen a depiction of a black man struggling with mental illness or just in general that doesn't say brother or nigga (when you're black and have to look at people crazy when they expect you to talk like that) every five seconds. Personalities aren't built around the color of our skin. They CAN be influenced by it and how society interacts with us because of it, but that's all. There's no formula for how we turn out. On a certain level I can give writers some leeway in that society has ingrained a lot of these generalizations "you don't act black/you sound white" is a common phrase I hear meant as a harmless observation (often from other black people). You know I'd just love to kick this whole Twitter "woke" movement we've got going on in the face and make them realize we both 1) have no actual diversity in anything and 2) the forced "diversity" we're getting is just pertepuating racial (and other group's (idk how else to say that)) stereotypes and pushing people more and more into a forced or preconceived identity. Twitter loves to act like by just doing the bare minimum on the surface (and shutting down any actual conversation) they're improving things (and I guess things are better when you're living on the internet ignorant of the actual state of problems).
@Mariobro4
@Mariobro4 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, no. I'm just going to add a diverse character to replace/remove a side character/main character and chant about how diverse this character is every 20 seconds with none of the sublety or tact because diversity is the best thing ever. Oh and I'm also making that character an obnoxious mary sue because how else am I going to show off to the audience how awesome diversity is; even of it gets to the point that it breaks the established lore and rules of that world. And also because actually doing research to what i'm writing for is too much work.
@filmandfirearms
@filmandfirearms 2 жыл бұрын
The biggest problem is that they usually just pick the first non white person they find, then stop writing the character right then and there, because that's all people are in Hollywood's eyes
@nabanivelazquez5133
@nabanivelazquez5133 2 жыл бұрын
"Will the tone come across as juvenile? I don't know, I can't hear it" I can't even-
@main4325
@main4325 2 жыл бұрын
"Is she wearing black to mourn her sense of fashion?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@sallystandish7105
@sallystandish7105 2 жыл бұрын
He should do one on how weak the military is in movies and how sometimes it’s just flat out evil
@willp2906
@willp2906 2 жыл бұрын
I need J.P. saying "Blood, Booze, and Boobs" as my ringtone stat
@sross720
@sross720 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the heroes journey and a training arc or just arcs in general
@Y2KNW
@Y2KNW 2 жыл бұрын
"A walking disaster zone that can barely function in polite society" Ah, you're a Lobo fan as well, I see.
@Someone-sq8im
@Someone-sq8im 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that monster of the week would be a good thing to cover ADDENDUM; This was that video
@cwovictor3281
@cwovictor3281 2 жыл бұрын
@today was a good day I've never seen cuckoldry of this magnitude.
@komickid833
@komickid833 2 жыл бұрын
I sort of have an idea for a corporate urban fantasy story about a world that went through an apocalyptic event that ended the golden age of magic. However, it was only the end of humans' ability to practice magic. With this, humans had to make covens, pacts, deals, and contracts with other beings. Could the subtext of the story be about a world that feels like it’s lost something intrinsic due to this supposed loss fueling a culture of nostalgia with everyone compromising themselves in little small ways in order to feel like they’re getting it back whilst ignoring the wonder and beauty that is found in the world that is left? I don’t know
@fyrefrost1898
@fyrefrost1898 2 жыл бұрын
When you said “get in the protagonist’s way” I could’ve sworn you were about to say “get in the protagonist’s pants” lmao
@fyrefrost1898
@fyrefrost1898 2 жыл бұрын
Also... oof my ex supernatural fan heart is quaking
@olseagoat
@olseagoat 2 жыл бұрын
That also counts.
@RedBlitzen
@RedBlitzen 2 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if he's dissing Jim Butcher or complimenting him. Either way this is making me feel better about my idea for an urban fantasy story. Actually both of them.
@connorholmes4196
@connorholmes4196 2 жыл бұрын
Early dresden maybe but Jim's books are so well known because he avoids a lot of these pitfalls.
@user-qn4xu4tq7n
@user-qn4xu4tq7n 2 жыл бұрын
The horny bit was defiantly a slam at butcher but overall most of these complaints don't apply
@patrickhackett7881
@patrickhackett7881 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-qn4xu4tq7n I guess there are a lot of third rate imitators of the Dresden Files that JP is attacking?
@voomvoom4522
@voomvoom4522 2 жыл бұрын
The mythology part reminds of a urban fantasy book where there were multiple mentions of God and Hell while having a future version of the protagonist being Artemis's(the Greek god of hunting) boyfriend without bringing it up they both exist in the same universe.
@renard6012
@renard6012 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a story about a worldwide deity battle royale in which they fight for the minds and prayers of humanity? There should be one.
@PokefanGuquizUjixyz
@PokefanGuquizUjixyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@renard6012 that sounds hilarious.
@fatherenricopucci7354
@fatherenricopucci7354 2 жыл бұрын
@@renard6012 Late comment, but it exists. It's a manga called "Records of Ragnarok"
@Bee-zr5pb
@Bee-zr5pb 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds weirdly random considering Artemis was basically the only god in the pantheon to never get married, date, or bang.
@voomvoom4522
@voomvoom4522 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bee-zr5pb exactly, so either the author stuffed in Greek gods without any thought, or Artemis has a very scandalous secret, that, if found out, would cause endless teasing by Apollo , and her Hunters would be pretty mad at her too.
@cienkitv2854
@cienkitv2854 2 жыл бұрын
"Low key dig at Bright" Thank you for reminding us all of shadowrun but bad.
@micahmoolman2202
@micahmoolman2202 2 жыл бұрын
I loved skullduggery as a child and i started rereading them a month ago. They are my main books if the sub genre I haven't read cassandra clare but I'll try it sometime. It's also very because all books in the Percy Jackson world are technically urban fantasy...... Never realised that.
@runningcommentary2125
@runningcommentary2125 2 жыл бұрын
I loved those books as a kid. The magic was so violent.
@crocodileguy4319
@crocodileguy4319 2 жыл бұрын
Don't read the mortal instruments
@bepisthescienceman4202
@bepisthescienceman4202 2 жыл бұрын
The average Harry Potter fan Vs The average skullduggery pleasent enjoyer
@thedarklrd6714
@thedarklrd6714 2 жыл бұрын
I think I've heard of skullduggery (at least the name) before, but I've never heard a single thing about it. What's it about?
@Cailan_Mors
@Cailan_Mors Жыл бұрын
@@thedarklrd6714 a skeleton
@ethanritterbusch8910
@ethanritterbusch8910 2 жыл бұрын
“last time i was this early” is a great format for comments on videos, be sure to use it regardless of how late you actually are to commenting on the video! (And NEVER theme what you claim happened last time to have anything to do with the video or even to be funny in any way)
@hrianboyer928
@hrianboyer928 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I was this early, I was eating a sandwich! Thanks for the help!
@nicholasdanner628
@nicholasdanner628 2 жыл бұрын
"I suffer from depression and one of my symptoms is an uncontrollable urge to embezzle money" - J.P. Beaubien, 2021
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache 2 жыл бұрын
*TWA:* _starts explaining Urban Fantasy_ *fans:* "???" *Me:* _puts up finger_ "Allow me." _clears throat_ "Harry Potter. But worse." *fans:* Ooooooooh.
@brandonvelde5774
@brandonvelde5774 2 жыл бұрын
Alternatively: "The Dresden Files, but bad." or "The SCP wiki, but shit."
@samuelkiernan2740
@samuelkiernan2740 2 жыл бұрын
Or just say "Supernatural, but on paper"
@andrewthegeek6522
@andrewthegeek6522 2 жыл бұрын
11:23 diversity in writing could probably have a video all to its self if jp is willing to gamble his sponcerships
@higueraft571
@higueraft571 2 жыл бұрын
SMH just do what Bright did and make your minorities *really* fucking questionable, and represent them with monsters that the setting pretty much said were the minions of an evil dark lord. There will be absolutely *zero* controversies doing things like that... Totally.
@andrewthegeek6522
@andrewthegeek6522 2 жыл бұрын
@@higueraft571 i was just thinking about token characters on the worse end that and the incident with orcs in dnd
@danaa-
@danaa- 4 ай бұрын
Some advice i got about diversity: Please dont make _everything_ and _everyone_ designed around "diversity" if it means compromising everything else. Nobody will like that. poc's, racists, lgbtq+ community, homophobes, transphobes, libs, cons, lefts, rights, centrists, nobody, and i mean nobody will like that.
@kaisermaximal8123
@kaisermaximal8123 2 жыл бұрын
"Here's something in the script about diversity in urban... fantasy..." It's funny because it doesn't exist
@heroofthewinds7765
@heroofthewinds7765 2 жыл бұрын
Percy Jackson: Allow me to introduce myself
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
@@heroofthewinds7765 I think its more commentary on it rather than having it. Rick Riordan masterfully weeves people of crazy different backgrounds together but rarely does he talk about issues these groups faced.
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowofhawk55 Honestly if Rick Riordan's books are the gold standard, we still have a long way to go. Diverse cultural backgrounds feel present, but that's all. When I read his books (however many years ago, so this may not be accurate to his current writing), I noticed them there and mentioned and very empowering which I enjoyed (like I remember frank being broken as having Chinese mythological powers + being the son of Mars + something else + 99% chance I'm misremembering book I read a while back), but when it came time for difficult conversations it generally felt like the stock "X is bad" and move on. Even when it was a lot more complex, it wasn't always present in the story because "oh no we gotta get back to saving the world and our normal cast doing normal teenage things". I was surprised at how much the Egyptian series felt like contemporary American teenage shenanigans. The Norse series (got to like book 3 before I fizzled out) actually felt the most diverse in that our main character came from a background of living on the streets and consistently brought that outlook with him as it shaped his encounters. Plus more of the main cast was dealing with real world cultural stuff that felt both present and like it was impacting the story.
@shadowofhawk55
@shadowofhawk55 2 жыл бұрын
@@vullord666 Not the Gold Standard, just really good compared to other things that botch the attempt.
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh percy jackson and fablehaven are like the only urban fantasy books I know. Where do you guys find so many of them? Before this video, I wouldn't have thought this was such a huge genre at all.
@TooLateForIeago
@TooLateForIeago 2 жыл бұрын
At this point, the love triangle plot that would surprise me most would be the closed triad ending.
@shimasclan
@shimasclan 2 жыл бұрын
Oh finally, another installment of The Sponsorship Wars!
@GodOfOrphans
@GodOfOrphans 2 жыл бұрын
The only urban fantasy that actually does the whole throwing every mythology and the kitchen sink into the mix well would be Shin Megami Tensei and a big part of why, is that there's actually an explanation for why all the myhtologies are true at once, they basically all spring forth from the collective unconscious and are made real by people's beleif in them.
@possessedpicklejar4762
@possessedpicklejar4762 2 жыл бұрын
3:38 I hope someone makes an out of context compilation for this channel eventually.
@thomaslecomte1570
@thomaslecomte1570 2 жыл бұрын
I would love a story where the authorities think something weird is happening, but they all blame it on bigfoot while the real threat advances
@neojimmi4552
@neojimmi4552 2 жыл бұрын
As an aspiring failed author, I am glad you revisited urban fantasy and tore it a new one... I meant, did it justice. Your previous video confused urban fantasy with paranormal romance, like an actual urban fantasy author. Remember the core element of the genre is bait and switch.
@tasillk2824
@tasillk2824 2 жыл бұрын
Aspiring failed author is now my career description
@lisazoria2709
@lisazoria2709 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna read an urban fantasy book where Cthulhu gets banned from Twitter for being a racist metaphor, and he is just SO DONE with cancel culture, so he decides to end the world on that premise. "HOW ABOUT I CANCEL YOU, FOOLISH MORTALS?!"
@MouldMadeMind
@MouldMadeMind 2 жыл бұрын
That contradicts the concept of Cthulhu itself.
@IamaPERSON
@IamaPERSON Жыл бұрын
@@MouldMadeMind but it could lead into an interesting about monsters going against expectations. Like vampires walking in daylight, or witch magic actually means being extremely lucky.
@QuantumBoogaloo
@QuantumBoogaloo 2 жыл бұрын
How is this channel not bigger than it is? I mean I show it to so many people, which I practically never do, and the humor is so well done.
@christianlecroy980
@christianlecroy980 2 жыл бұрын
11:08 this moment caught me off guard with how things got kinda serious. Mostly because I haven't seen him be serious very often.
@bencebotye3904
@bencebotye3904 2 жыл бұрын
When the first "URBAN FANTASY" video came out don't begin Discworld yet, and oh boy... the "Ankh-Morpork City Watch" books are like every cliché done right, in the fashion of an Edgar Wright movie: noir detective story, cospiracies, lost heir to a throne, dragons, even vampires and werewolves as well! Terry Pratchett(he may rest in peace) did the best paranormal romance I ever read!
@olliminati
@olliminati 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, according to the video, my WIP urban-fantasy novel is fairly unique. Well, thanks! Woke up this morning feeling a bit iffy about the book. Greetings from Germany!
@alexernst9448
@alexernst9448 Жыл бұрын
World of Darkness vampires: Oh cool a new technology that lets us instantly communicate anywhere in the world! (One edition later) OH GOD WE FORGOT THE NSA IS A THING.
@bencox3641
@bencox3641 Жыл бұрын
The fact that vampires don't just lobby congress to cut the funding to the NSA is the most unrealistic part of the world of darkness.
@cackmed120
@cackmed120 2 жыл бұрын
You know I’m starting to think sir newguy might be a spy, or maybe even a ghost! I know it sounds crazy but his constant evil muttering is starting to make me suspicious
@aquaclaw5471
@aquaclaw5471 2 жыл бұрын
How could you say that?! Sir newguy is very trustworthy and only wants happiness for the world!!!
@Iamnotpicky
@Iamnotpicky 2 жыл бұрын
I feel personally attacked by an uncomfortable amount of material in this. Well done.
@theespers5263
@theespers5263 2 жыл бұрын
Read 'Dragons of the Cuyahoga.' It's an urban fantasy/murder mystery set in Cleveland where a dragon dies by mysterious circumstances and the protagonist is a gumshoe detective trying to find whodunnit. It's kind of like 'Bright' except in that it doesn't suck.
@theespers5263
@theespers5263 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the whole video... Yes. It does fall into some of these tropes. Not all of them, though.
@wariodude128
@wariodude128 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason, I had an idea while watching this video about an urban fantasy story where the protagonist is a succubus with everyone in the setting lusting over her. Problem is she hates everyone. Unsure what type of succubus, but still. Also imagined every point in that urban fantasy generator would appear at least once to keep things interesting. Of course, since she hates everyone, the love interests would be those who she hates slightly less than everyone else. I have a weird mind sometimes.
@calebcostrini
@calebcostrini 2 жыл бұрын
Character: *tactical genius, martial arts master, every opposite-sex character in love with them* Some 400-pound guy who never leaves his mom's basement: "Wow, I relate to this character so much."
@vullord666
@vullord666 2 жыл бұрын
It's wish fulfillment. They can't physically relate to the character, but it's more often than not everything they'd want to be in some magic alternate reality (and ngl, I would too). The problem is these characters are just as much blank slates as the "super bland anyone can project onto (but is somehow also the most special and gets every love interest)" character. At some point a good writer needs to sit down and write an actual complex character that experiences development and interacts with the world, and isn't just a list of powers or jane/John Doe personified.
@xreverse_f1ash
@xreverse_f1ash Жыл бұрын
I wonder what someone would be like if they took every video of TWA to heart and actually followed it
@bonelessvegetal818
@bonelessvegetal818 Жыл бұрын
marvel?
@tabmartin7582
@tabmartin7582 Жыл бұрын
@@bonelessvegetal818 I think we found today's smartest man
@corey4370
@corey4370 Жыл бұрын
@@bonelessvegetal818 modern* marvel
@zakosist
@zakosist 2 жыл бұрын
If mythological creatures are all over the city and the society doesn't notice, the protagonist is probably just insane.
@ailius1520
@ailius1520 2 жыл бұрын
How to incorporate a real-world mythology into your story should be its own video. The rule to remember with it is once you invoke myths, you're no longer an author in control of characters and stories you own: you become a participant in a multigenerational process of retelling the same story, and there's a social contract with both prior and future generations to be somewhat consistent. On the other hand the worst thing that could happen to the myths is if no one retold the story and they died.
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