US women's soccer defeat shows reactionary nihilism of the right's 'anti-wokeism'

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The United States Women’s National Team was knocked out of the 2023 World Cup in the Round of 16 earlier this month. Their loss was surprising, but not necessarily shocking. What was shocking, however, was the almost orgiastic response to the loss from former President Donald Trump and right-wingers around the US, who gleefully celebrated the US team’s defeat and Megan Rapinoe’s missed kick as a victory in the reactionary war against so-called “wokeness.” As Edge of Sports host Dave Zirin argues in this “Choice Words” segment, the same people who vilify and attack trans athletes, and claim they’re doing so to defend the sanctity of women’s sports, are showing how much they also hate women’s sports and women “who dare not ‘know their place.’”
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@domingodeanda233 Жыл бұрын

There's nothing wrong with losing, it's not possible to win every time

@jaderington Жыл бұрын

@@John-nz6jb lol 😃

@Insignificatos Жыл бұрын

Shhh don't tell them that

@numbersix8919 Жыл бұрын

Others will make fun of you but I agree 100%

@miikatorma1784 Жыл бұрын

One of the silliest takes ever.

@jim55282 Жыл бұрын

It felt even better when they lost to the 15 yrs old boys team.

@danishaffer2673 Жыл бұрын

You spread that Leninism. Workers stand with the oppressed peoples of the world, unite!

@gamehengeful Жыл бұрын

I'm not on the right but I'm glad they lost. Going overseas and acting like children is embarrassing.

@mustno3 Жыл бұрын

Here is a thought experiment: Imagine if the Team knelt down and refused to sing the national anthem in an international event in order to protest the gr//mr movement we have in the country where millions of children are being castrated and mutilated by the left. Would you gr//mrs still support that team? Basically, if you want everyone in the country to support you as a "national" team, you have to act like one, i.e that is represent everyone, whether you like it or not, and not just represent just side and act all surprised as the other side, more than half, does not support you.

@GregDH Жыл бұрын

You can't have perverts representing the nation.

@publicutility Жыл бұрын

Most likely, the corrupt owners. Fixed it to punish the ladies for their insolence. Athletes should control the sports organization and governing bodies.

@ConnorLonergan Жыл бұрын

Still trying to figure that out. Not saying the Owners are somehow benevolent and would not sabotage working athletes; it's just that the owners are making bank off these players in the end, so why bother undermining and risking the bottom line (sports teams earn more from winning.) I mean, as Dave Zinn said, the loss was not exactly unexpected, so if anything, the players will feel bad for losing, but 24 hours later (so to speak.), they will move on like nothing happened, that the loss was business as usual.

@publicutility Жыл бұрын

@@ConnorLonergan owners tend to be vindictive ie. Psychopaths

@ConnorLonergan Жыл бұрын

@@publicutility Sure but not to the point their own bottom line would get hit, and in this case their bottom line would get hit

@publicutility Жыл бұрын

@@ConnorLonergan unlimited resources, unchecked power.

@ConnorLonergan Жыл бұрын

@@publicutility only the resources are not so unlimited, why do you think they freak out every time they here their bottom line declines?

@jamessharp9790 Жыл бұрын

Wow ! Just wow. I absolutely love what Taya does here for freedom. That said , this is really hyperbole. It’s a hyperbolic reaction? Yes The leaps you make quite predictably to the old arguments of misogyny etc are not only flawed and illogical, but promote more division. I don’t care to watch Us women’s soccer because I’m an Mx fan and don’t watch stick and ball sports . That’s My choice to Not help promote stick and ball over Mx - when Mx has the most fit athletes in the world. We had a strong women’s Mx series for years too , died out some with Covid. The monoliths perpetuated by Both the Left and Right are damaging, but they persist. Heck I realize WNBA doesn’t make much money and NBA money supports it, but that’s the last stick and ball sport I’ve enjoyed watching. They really hustle. I’d thought this channel was about Freedom . I’ll continue to assume that and that all views are respected and given time - unless or until it’s shown otherwise.

@magicunclefergaloreilly6699 Жыл бұрын

Grow up mate. The whole worlds laughing at your 'left'.

@driatrogenesis Жыл бұрын

exactly

@_robespierre Жыл бұрын

every nationalism is racism in its core and therefor its fascism

@John-nz6jb Жыл бұрын

Trump was almost a soccer player bone spurs hampered his first effort.

@joleaneshmoleane8358 Жыл бұрын

People are celebrating it bc they hate the politics of the players who have made that their number one focus.

@driatrogenesis Жыл бұрын

exactly why is this channel so mentally ill?

@tompilkington7379 Жыл бұрын

Who cares. It’s women’s soccer????

@grapentine739 Жыл бұрын

😅😅😅 yes yes 👍 🙌 👏. I never thought I would be so happy to see America lose even though i am American. I was cheering for the US to lose in the Olympics too.

@JohnInTheShelter Жыл бұрын

It shows nothing of the sort. People just don't give a damn about the sport in this country. One year when I went out for baseball, a coach told me I'd be better off going into soccer, "In a couple years, it'll be bigger than football or baseball." That was in 1973.

@Raymund-Swales Жыл бұрын

The Devil's work is never done.

@laurelksalyer4922 Жыл бұрын

The devil is the author of confusion.

@REALLYREALLYRED 11 ай бұрын

You need to lay off the sauce Jack LOL. What a drunk!

@strangegames198 Жыл бұрын

VERY well said. Thank you.

@junko988 11 ай бұрын

They were sore winners when they were winning

@Hermetic_ Жыл бұрын

3:30 Describing the press as being Centrism…don’t believe that’s accurate.

@lesleymoses7852 Жыл бұрын

God how terrible. As a member of one of the countries that hosted the World Cup the American team was Uber popular here. They defs had a lot of kiwi fans.

@robhemp5548 Жыл бұрын

1st place team losing to 3rd place team is not unconventional. Rapinoe's grin after missing the pk was unconventional.

@jeffteschner687 Жыл бұрын

Everybody loved mia hamm

@phaedrussocrates7636 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@meh3247 Жыл бұрын

Chuck Frump

@user-cf7se2iv5q Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your view

@joleaneshmoleane8358 Жыл бұрын

I thought the left hated nationalism and patriotism. Shouldn’t you be glad that people are willing to cheer against their nation’s team?

@baritonewoman4702 Жыл бұрын

Nice satire.

@humbertsmith8864 Жыл бұрын

News flash: Not only right wingers wished for a loss. Sad this take is so superficial. Love Dave otherwise.

@malekkushimuzik3580 9 ай бұрын

This network actually is the most racist. I have tapes on a journalist on this network that i will release one day. I am just waiting and he won't be ablento deny it because i recorded thhe program live and called in to confront him.

@javierburgos9975 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like someone needs to touch grass... Sheepdog

@sharongillesp Жыл бұрын

Support women’s autonomy and women’s sports. Support the greatest women’s “soccer” team in the United States of America. RESPECT! - ALL THE WAY!

@WalterHildahl Жыл бұрын

They boo'd because the National anthem was being disrespected. this guy has totally got it wrong!

@jayd6813 Жыл бұрын

How about they just keep their mouths shut and kick the ball? I can’t voice my political views jn the workplace, nor should I - why should they? They ARE too woke, and that isn’t a stupid statement at all. Why do they deserve the same pay as men’s teams that draw 10x the fans?

@timothylemoineprice6562 Жыл бұрын

When you demonstrate publicly that you are ashamed of the nation you claim to represent, do not be surprised when citizens of that nation are GLAD your defamation of their nation is not getting a larger or prolonged platform

@manuelbaez7148 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely awesome take brother! Every single word! POWER to the bold & true lovers of all life

@bizzwoofer Жыл бұрын

I think it's perfectly understandable a portion of the country is thrilled to see someone _actually_ get what they deserve for a change. People are thirsty for justice, and this situation is a clear example of the proud being humbled, simple as that. I think it's ridiculous to assume they are somehow wrong, or need to apologize for their emotions when they get crapped on in the media on a daily basis.

@eatstuffanddie Жыл бұрын

Those people standing up for liberty and justice for all got what they deserved?

@bizzwoofer Жыл бұрын

@@eatstuffanddie who are you referring to? The soccer team that hates the "racist" American flag? Golly gee, the irony.... Well done completely ignoring the last portion of my comment though, your selective processing of facts and information is truly something to behold. Congratulations.

@raevj 11 ай бұрын

@@eatstuffanddiethis team doesn’t stand for real justice or equality….only Marxist Social Justice & Equity….BIG DIFFERENCE

@leonardmccannon3136 Жыл бұрын

You are really making the issues much more complex than it is. When a group becomes a icon for feminist and woke values, those who reject those valuesare happy to see them fail. It’s PR 101, and ithats why public figures who are supposed to represent the nation as whole would do well to steer clear of partisan political messaging. You want lo lead ? Well, they you get bad with whatever good you imagined would follow. Own it, and quit whining.

@bizzwoofer Жыл бұрын

Very well said I couldn't agree more

@unpredictableaxolotl3762 Жыл бұрын

This guy sounds like Fry from Futurama. Not apropos of anything, just an observation. Didn't know the US Women's Soccer team won equal pay, that's dope. Honestly, if we were following the model that conservatives often claim professional sports operates under--that teams ought to be compensated according to the revenue they bring in from ticket sales, merchandise, advertising, etc.--it sounds like the women's team ought to be paid more than the men's team.

@crisop-jm8cz Жыл бұрын

They didn't win equal pay, you don't know because the truth was never talked about. The f'n judge threw the original case out because, guess what, they found that the women were being paid more than the men in that timeframe, under a contract that they reviewed and signed. Its f'n privilege on full f'n display.

@raevj 11 ай бұрын

They bring in FAR LESS revenue than the men & are overpaid based on these standards.

@youtubeuser206 Жыл бұрын

Sounds like they should recruit more Trans women, also known as men

@jefp65 Жыл бұрын

Maybe women's soccer in the US generates similar revenue to men's. But in countries where soccer is the number one sport and mens teams are generating billions of dollars per year, it just wouldnt be possible to pay women the same. In the capitalist system players are paid based on the dollars they can generate. Would anyone suggest that women pro basketballers, footballers or baseball players be paid the same as what men currently? It may not seem fair but its just economic reality under a capitalist system.

@ConnorLonergan Жыл бұрын

Indeed, so maybe we should change that reality and organize and fight to have the economic system have equal pay.

@driatrogenesis Жыл бұрын

where did you hear they generate the same revenue thats a complwte and utter lie but okay keep lying

@youtubeuser206 Жыл бұрын

Except US women's soccer generates 1/10th the revenue of the men.... but they still want equal pay for some reason

@jefp65 Жыл бұрын

@@aluisious Please

@dfwherbie8814 Жыл бұрын

First of all, it’s *football. Not “soccer.” The whole world calls it football, except America lol secondly, the women’s team gets paid more than the men. Lol why are we talking about this? 👀 Btw, I never hear anyone complain that women models get paid WAY more than men as part of the industry standard. But people understand that women are more in demand. The logic seems to be thrown by the wayside when women are paid less in certain industries. Maybe there’s gender bias, sure. But before we land there, how about we contextualize all the data first. Often times, the gaps are explained. And in the case of American women’s football, they’re more successful in the World Cup by all metrics than the men’s American team. But in general, the World Cup for women just hit a billi. Usually it’s in the tens of millions, whereas, for men, almost half of the world’s population watched the men’s World Cup. This is why, in the past, no one understood what the American women’s team were even talkin about. More eyes attract more ad revenue, and they already get more of a percentage of ad revenue over the men. You just don’t have as much coming in due to quantity. It’s not a non-issue

@jaderington Жыл бұрын

@@loveliberals-pb9yq Might as well. Especially now it looks like your really are bored of winning, be it war or football. Take your ball and go home and play soccer by yourself. Paint the ball red and call it Russian soccer while your at it. Change is a coming !

@publicutility Жыл бұрын

United States OF America.

@dfwherbie8814 Жыл бұрын

@@darrel7589 aww look at how emotion my good sis is being. The industry doesn’t matter if we’re talking about equal pay. And it is a fact that women get paid more than men in modeling. Also another fact that Asian men get paid more than white men. And Asian women are basically closing the gap with white men. Asian women also get paid more than Black and Latino men as well. You are the type to see an outcome, form a conclusion, and work backwards, finding ways of rationalizing that baseless conclusion. Makes zero sense. There’s no issue with women’s sports. People just don’t watch it, on average, as much as men sports. And people have a right to watch and support what they choose to. Be well

@dfwherbie8814 Жыл бұрын

@@publicutility whole world >>> USA

@publicutility Жыл бұрын

@@dfwherbie8814 while the usa imposes its will on the americas', most of the Americas' knows it's football.

@Fox_Zero Жыл бұрын

I am sure you are correct about many that are celebrating this loss, for many like myself it is about focusing in sports instead of using their privilege position as a platform to advance their popularity, as it was the case with Rapinoe. I am sad they lost, but upset the soccer program is more interested in the popularity of the players they recruit, rather than their talent and willingness to represent our country with pride! She was a great player 15 years ago, and she is still good, but there are many younger players that are much better than her, that were not selected simply because of politics. She caused division in the team and ironically, she was the first to celebrate the loss she caused, laughing and making jokes about her failure to score. Most professional athletes show humility when they lose, and some are even apologetic if they recognize, they played a part in their team's defeat. I hope she leaves the sport and has a very successful career as an activist, since that seems to be her priority. Her activism became an interference and a distraction, and her dwindling talent was unable to compensate for it. Many are to blame for the teams failure to advance, but Rapinoe shares a bigger role than her fanatics are willing to admit.

@big1boston Жыл бұрын

What you dont get about carl marx he was the only successful hegelian, the workers are always crushed.. if you have any shame dont put your guilt upon others for your own actions. Thats just weakness.

@sevenstarsofthedipper1047 Жыл бұрын

I used to serve as a volunteer youth soccer coach back in the mid 90s. I grew up in a Northern major urban area where no one I knew played soccer. Nevertheless, I said then that American soccer will suffer internationally until it became a game played as pick up and youth teams in the Black communities(both African American and immigrant) and children of Central and South American immigrants get into the college and professional pipeline. There is enormous talent in these communities that remains untapped. The problem is interest and exposure. Most of our most talented kids play other sports that are viewed as more financially lucrative and accessible. It is not as great an issue in the LatinX community because soccer is prominent. But, not so in the Black community. I was actually rooting for the American women this time because the team had Black and Brown players; and I like Meagan’s views. Generally, I root for the African countries, Brazil, Columbia, Ecuador, and France for the same reason. The only reason why I won’t be rooting for England is because I did not like what Lauren James did to the Nigerian player. I was hoping for a non European title game.

@carlferguson2839 Жыл бұрын

😅😅😅😅😅

@sdeshera Жыл бұрын

Dave Ziron! Love it!

@ronlegend2526 Жыл бұрын

Keep politics and the agenda of the minority out of the game then there wouldn't be a problem

@Hermetic_ Жыл бұрын

3:58 The equal pay topic - has this not been explained before as being a factor of ticket sales, and not whether or not a team wins. I think this warrants more discussion here, otherwise I feel this segment is just pandering politics and not news :(

@MostHigh777 Жыл бұрын

I hate Trump. The US women's national soccer team is not as bad but they're still bad. I've written to my elected representatives to cut them off from funding for 10 years until they learn their lesson.