Great video! I think mentioning Libraries is a great point

I buy used and new manga and use my library REALLY heavily, because they all support the idea that manga is labor that needs to be compensated for. Plus, lots of people reading manga at libraries means the libraries are going to buy more manga, and then more people will be exposed to manga because of that, etc etc. Plus, lots of libraries even let you request titles for them to buy if they don’t have it already! I was only able to read Levius Est because I sent in an online thing saying I was interested, which was super cool.

You said it better than me >:(

YESSSSS! Finally! Thank you for this video, I really like and respect the other creators but I couldn't get behind their arguments. Great stuff!

Couldn't agree more. Plus taking a punt on a couple of second hand volumes probably means at some point (if you enjoyed it) that you'll be picking up more of that series and i bet those volumes will more than likely be new. Especially, if the series is ongoing and has new volumes coming out

I got the French Version of YuYu Hakusho Volume 1 from my birth year 1997 and it’s one of my personal most precious acquisitions. It’s out of print for a long time and the text is so old school and the general feel of it is retro-cool. If I had to say why I like to look at second hand stores for Manga it’s for that reason. It’s just something else when you find a 20+ year old manga in decent condition and read it. I got that one for 3,5€ but wouldn’t sell it to anyone. When I read it, for those who know the story, I remember me when I was 16+ and questioned if I would be missed if I faded out of existence. I can think and dream about what would have become out of me had I given manga a shot all those years back and seen the story of YuYu Hakusho Vol 1. When I open it, I feel at ease, the cover as well as the feeling of the manga is giving hope to those who need it

Im also bald and somewhat overweight

i mostly only really buy used manga if something is out of print, if i find it at half price books, or i find a good deal on a bundle on ebay for example. but most of my collection is bought new.

The best take on this topic.

I agree 100%! I’m glad someone else remembered libraries exist lol

The other point of note to mention is that used manga has already been purchased. The contribution to the industry has already been made, so buying it used really shouldn't be a problem. Its the same as buying a used game and second hand clothes. I buy used manga a lot, and I agree with you on the point that someone how buys used manga is likely to buy it new as well. Interesting vid man

I completely agree- wait. Are those Light Novels on your shelf? Tbh this has been a weird one for me. I'm not in a position where I feel that I need to buy used. But I know there are a fair few people buying used who may buy like 1 volume out of 20 used. I usually just donate my old manga to a local library. Is this the same as someone uploading a scan? hmm

This was a great video with lots of well thought out points as always :) this is one of the best takes I’ve seen, I buy used and new manga but am 100% against scans

Great video!! Also after working in a library as a student, libraries will buy more volumes of a series if its popular too!! So supporting libraries does help the industry since it encourages libraries to order more manga!! 😊

Couldn’t agree with you more on this Zach, great video 👍

I buy used manga from a local anime store to support them, but 95% of the time I purchase manga new. I would feel so guilty reading scans for free.

the only manga i read in scans nowadays is Hajime no Ippo because there's no way in hell Kodansha will ever license it and if by some miracle they ever do it will probably be a digital only release and i hate digital, if i am going to buy something i want a physical damn copy.

Well said sir!

Great video, and some great points! To be honest in the UK used manga is only a couple pounds less than new manga so I don't understand why people buy used manga when they can support the creator more by paying a couple more pounds, for unsued/new manga

Great video I really loved it. I do have a question tho. If you want to read a manga that isn’t available in any language you can read how would you go about it?

What's the best way to buy manga that hasn't been translated into English (officially) yet? I'm talking about physical copies. I don't know how to use proxy shopping or anything like that. I've read a few scans and I would love to support the creators by buying their work, but I don't know how.

I would like to mention by "supporting the industry" how are you going to purchase out of print manga or read scans of manga that's not published? I have watched most of these videos very valid points but there is nothing wrong with buying used in my opinion

Its really hard to get manga in my country only 3 or 5 titles a month so i don't really have a choice here i love reading manga but it's really hard to get them

Buying a used manga from someone directly means that seller can buy more new manga releases🤔 it's a Neverending cycle

YET. Oof.... Hit in the feels. Nice video.

I only buy physical manga. I do read the sample to see if i like the manga. I buy used manga because it helps save money and it eco friendly. I buy new manga as well. I like physical copies better than digital. During me watching this video i just got my amazon order of new manga I got: Beastars Komi Can't Communicate Our Dreams at Dusk Spy × Family Our Dining table. Can't wait to read 🤗

I have a manga collection of a little over 300 volumes right now (mostly through heavy sales on box sets), though I do read scans occasionally for old long-running series that may be decades away from getting an official english release, as well as old failed and canceled series that never got more than a chapter or two, those can be quite interesting as resources of what not to do, especially for myself being an aspiring comicbook artist. And as for the manga that were lucky enough to eventually get english releases (jojo as an example, but hoping hard for hajime no ippo and baki the grappler in english), I do make sure to buy every volume. I've every jojo volume up to part 3, along with rohan at the louvre and manga in theory and practice, and will certainly bulk buy part 4 when it's completed. Never donated to scanlators, never will, that'd be absurd, and adblock is always on ofcourse.

What about those volumes of manga that are fully out of print and even the second hand copies are 3-5 times the retail prices

As a consumer of used manga for cheaper from legal ways such as going to a secondhand store (I.E. Bull Moose Music) I usually prefer support local businesses and I usually prefer buying things and owning it instead of being a part of the part of something like being a part of a subscription service where they're taking money instead of giving back to the artists

What do you think of reading scans when the series is not licensed? I buy a lot of manga, but some of my favorites aren't available in a language I can understand or in the shonen jump app.

I think pretty much everything said he is just common sense. Nothing really wrong buying used manga even if it doesn't directly help the industry. I think any time I end up reading stuff online I end up buying the physical copy at some point and typically initially come across it at the library.

On the point that scans don’t benefit the industry at all, I disagree. For example, Komi would not be doing nearly as well for Viz if it weren’t for the massive fandom created by scans.

Used Manga was once purchased at retail value, thus providing the author of said manga compensation for that unit. The author doesn't deserve endless compensation for one copy(one physical book) sold.

Hi, I totaly agree with your opinion. The used manga is normal aftermarket sale and is clear that it is not supporting the industry. On the other hand the scanlations is the case when these sites directly breaks the author rights and profits from it.

At the end of the day we all have the same opinion and what we can agree on. WE ALL LOVE MANGA ❤️❤️❤️

Funny is that Eastcoast manga published one week before this discussion video hudba“ Biggest manga haul video” where he is directly telling that he will going resell almost two thirds of this manga haul. I don’t understand why he is showing in his manga haul the volumes which are for resell and for his collection.

Also public libraries buy copies of manga with tax money, so imagine how many libraries are available in the US! For example, there are about 9,000 public libraries so imagine that 1/2 of those places buys a copy of a manga, that means over 4k copies sold!!! That can be a big deal for some publishers because some people don't have the money now, but will definitely buy the series later. That's how I think that Junji Ito series sell really well because people who read it eventually buy a copy for themselves later on so they can keep rereading it and having it in their collection.

Ok this is hypothetical but what if a manga isnt released outside of Japan, or its English publication ceased? Genuinely curious.

So if I'm being honest about myself I believe you made great Points. While I do Read scanlations I also buy a fair bit of manga myself. Mostly the physical copies of the manga I've been reading anyway. Now mostly I use scanlations to read a manga that hasn't been licensed for a english release. But by no means am I trying to say it isn't wrong.

I wish you elaborated more on the math about someone buying used vs scanlations. The used market is a much more sustainable "problem" vs piracy. Scanlations can be sustained with one $10 purchase feeding 1,000 readers while 500 readers selling their used copy to another 500 in the used market later on at least netted the company $5,000 dollars initially. Piracy is such a crippling issue past morality, its literally a cancer.

Dude, I thought your head was like an inch shorter than normal cause the inside of your hat matches the wall

Work hard and earn money...buy your own manga...THE END.

i'm a scanlator myself and i gotta say i'm kind of offended lol. your whole argument against scanlation is based on the presumption that for one, every scanlation group only does shonenshit, two, every scanlation group takes donations and three that every scanlation group is a speedgroup senselessly racing with official releases. neither applies to me or my group. we exclusively work on titles that would have been inaccessible to anyone else in english were it not for us. we in no way want to harm anyone's sales of legit volumes and I don't believe that that's what we are doing. were any of the projects we are working on to get licensed we'd instantly stop translating it, however not before shilling the fuck out of it with all our means. in an ideal world, where more niche titles saw english translations and the anglophone manga market wasn't reduced to mostly the same shit over and over again, we wouldn't exist, but that's not the world we're living in. also, take a step back and think whether "japanimation" or "anime comics" would have been such a large thing in the west in the first place where it not for the first fansubs and unlicensed translations in the 70s.

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Every one making videos on whether or not to buy used manga and to me is like who cares? What ever is the cheaper option is for what I go for. I had a friend that read scans and I don't care as long as we get to discuss the serie is fine by me. I buy the mangas that I like but there are manga I can't like one that haven't been printed in english so I read the scan, no shame.