Trojan War Family Tree | Main Characters from The Iliad Explained

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@kae5717 3 жыл бұрын

"All roads lead to Zeus" is the single best one sentence summary of Greek myth I have ever heard

@MrQdiddy85 Жыл бұрын

Well are we surprised? Most of the stories featuring Zeus have him turning into something simple to sleep with a chick. He's like a a magical Cosby

@Saiputera Жыл бұрын

I think Zeus a real person

@emilybarclay8831 Жыл бұрын

Perseus and Heracles, while being half brothers, were also great-grandfather/great-grandson. Perseus was the father of Heracles’s mother, and both Heracles’s mother Alcmene and Perseus’s mother Danaë were great-granddaughters of Zeus himself

@AchillesofAchilles 5 ай бұрын

I followed my line, and it went to zues and onto chaos-nothingness. Nice

@arssora1731 3 жыл бұрын

Pelops: Dad, what's for dinner? Tantalus: Funny question

@fredjones554 3 ай бұрын

At a later dinner. Thyestes: "This is marvellous, who's your chef?"

@UriyahMommy 3 жыл бұрын

Zeus was busting it low and spreading it wide between the worlds. I wouldn’t be surprised if we all descended from him

@AAwildeone 3 жыл бұрын

I totally love your take on Papa Zeus!

@h122iable 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's not actually real

@jesusislukeskywalker4294 3 жыл бұрын

the cat in the hat.

@erdenebaterdenebayar8715 3 жыл бұрын

@@h122iable you don't say, Sherlock

@h122iable 3 жыл бұрын

@@erdenebaterdenebayar8715 you never know when people are being serious

@aetolian3228 3 жыл бұрын

In 21:15 there is a vase painting shown, but it does not show fight beetwen Hector and Patroclus. What it shows is a story of fight beetwen Achilles and the Queen of the Amazons - Penthesilea. Story says that the Amazons fought with Trojans against Greeks and the Queen slew many Achaeans, but was killed by Achilles. In the last moment, just when he killed her, Achilles realized how beautiful she was and fell in love with her, but it was too late - Penthesilea was dead. Achilles was left with only grief. This painting was expertly described by sister Wendy in one of her programms about history of art, that’s how i know it. Thanks for this video Useful Charts, you are truly a treasure.

@Frahamen 3 жыл бұрын

Cassandra genuinely is the best character of the story no doubt.

@floraposteschild4184 3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe you!

@MahaHMA 3 жыл бұрын

where i can i read the entire story?

@floraposteschild4184 3 жыл бұрын

@@MahaHMA To my knowledge, no ancient author wrote Cassandra's story from beginning to end, but we can piece it together. For example, Euripides wrote about Cassandra immediately after the fall of Troy in The Trojan Woman. This wiki shows all the sources at the bottom. Marion Zimmer Bradley's The Firebrand I remember as good, and pretty close to the original story -- at least until the end.

@juliuscaesar7448 2 жыл бұрын

Lol you wish, Aeneas is superior

@AndrewFullerton 2 жыл бұрын

Eris is snubbed yet again, I see

@elfarlaur 3 жыл бұрын

Paris should have really gone for Athena's bribe. Seems the best in my opinion. Then again I know a lot of young guys who would do the same as him.

@yousaywhatnow2195 3 жыл бұрын

I’d say Hera’s is probably the best, all of (the Greek’s idea of) Europe and Asia inexplicably ruled/owned by you, implying there not being issue of rebellion or decent). Even if the Ancient Greek of the time’s concept of Europe and Asia being considerably smaller than how we think today, that’s still a really good deal, considering the lands it covers.

@Crick1952 3 жыл бұрын

"Paris' Choice" is a philosophical and ethics dilemma that people have debated for thousands of years. When reading Greek mythology think of the divine figures as the abstract concepts they represent. So Paris was faced with the choice of fame (Athena), power (Hera) and love (Aphrodite). Knowing how things turned out, the correct choice is obvious, but even knowing how things turn out, how many of us would truely turn down love if given the chance? When people are on their deathbed, they don't regret not having fame and power, they regret or enjoy the love they had.

@redsky02 3 жыл бұрын

The whole point of Paris choice is that there is no correct choice all of them have terrible consequences

@Dakaork 3 жыл бұрын

@@Crick1952 If you went with Hera. You will become a tyrant without love, wisdom or strength to rule over your empire. If you went with Athena, you will be at most another heroic figure like Odysseus, Achilles or Herakles i.e. tormented by the gods constantly. Even Zeus wants nothing to do with it cause he knew the judge is practically the number one target for the goddesses wraith.

@ihl0700677525 2 жыл бұрын

The problem with Athena's "bribe" was it requires Paris to be wise and want to seek knowledge in the first place. So too the case with Hera's, Paris would choose her if he was greedy and power-hungry megalomaniac. Aphrodite offer something that Paris longed for: love.

@JoSan3 3 жыл бұрын

"all roads lead to zeus" well what do you expect from the god famous for not being able to keep it in his pants

@morehero1 3 жыл бұрын

That's because all these families wanted the extra prestige of being semi-divine, so they they had their bards, scholars and scribes insert Zeus in their family tree. That's why Zeus is like this, so they can be extra special.

@SFHStarFromHell 3 жыл бұрын

Something that is worth noting is that Pelops was the king that conquered the region of Peloponese(and gave his name), also considered to be the founder of ancient Olympic Games.

@Faerithpiggles 3 жыл бұрын

Dardanus is where we get the name for the Dadanelles

@1ofone_ 3 жыл бұрын

thank you for the knowledge kind stranger

@jesusislukeskywalker4294 3 жыл бұрын

tribe of dan. denmark. dun.. don . donald . etc

@acharonim4659 3 жыл бұрын

Jesus' BFF They were in Ancient Greece too known as the Dannoi or the Danaans.

@legolasgreenleaf727 3 жыл бұрын

Cool fact, I didn’t know but it’s makes sense!

@anthonymichael7022 2 жыл бұрын

Or, from the people of Dardans, north of Makedonia

@ZephLodwick 3 жыл бұрын

By the way, Homer takes one whole book to describe a shield. This epic drags in some places.

@ZephLodwick 2 жыл бұрын

@Dimitri Papadopoulos Yeah, that was pretty boring, too.

@fellinuxvi3541 2 жыл бұрын

In his defense, it was a cool shield

@enriquemidence8575 2 жыл бұрын

it's one of my favorite passages! it takes a break from the story to describe life in archaic greece, or perhaps even late bronze age society.

@potatogaming7044 2 жыл бұрын

One of them is his putting on the new armor

@LinguarumFautor Жыл бұрын

The shield is a narrative device. The story beats told on the shield are ones which would not fit into the limited real-time narrative of the Iliad.

@mljesus7743 3 жыл бұрын

I mean at this point I'm convinced Zeus is just the first example of an overused plot device by virtue of instantly making this any person born to him important.

@themaskedbard3432 3 жыл бұрын

Each and every one of Priam's children (those that are named at least) end up dying in one myth or the other. The only one that survives is Helenos, Cassandra's twin and a traitor to his own kingdom and family.

@clockworkkirlia7475 3 жыл бұрын

There's also Tróán from, of all places, the Prose Edda, but I can understand why you might not think she counts. :p

@themaskedbard3432 3 жыл бұрын

@@clockworkkirlia7475 to be honest I have never heard of her! The children I generally think about are Hector, Paris, Cassandra, Helenos, Polydoros, Creusa, Polyxena, Laodice, Deiphobos and Troilos. That said, I do know that different and later traditions add more, after all it is said he had 50 sons and 50 daughters. Also, thank you for letting me know about this connection! I think it is very interesting!

@mykulpierce 3 жыл бұрын

@@clockworkkirlia7475 prose Edda also includes Memnon the ethopians king as the father of Thor instead of Odin. Older than the Prose Edda is the Historia Francorum by Gregory of Tours says the Franks were Trojans in exile. Hector's son, Astyanax, survived and was renamed to Francus.

@shinsenshogun900 3 жыл бұрын

@@mykulpierce Sounds nice, but at that point, that's a canon distant from the region of origin. But cultures tend to adopt anything foreign to the root point

@mykulpierce 3 жыл бұрын

@@shinsenshogun900 sure that's a clearly skeptical approach despite haplogroup migration and indo-european language groups. Even Egyptian blue glass found as far north as Scandinavia.

@Schwifter_ 3 жыл бұрын

I'd love if they did a proper Troy movie, with gods and all the other characters like Diomedes etc.

@kinhamid9665 Жыл бұрын

Robert Eggers is the man

@donaldtrump6725 Жыл бұрын

@@kinhamid9665 oh my yes

@kola4143 9 ай бұрын

It'd be very long.

@jorgitoislamico4224 4 ай бұрын

@@kola4143We already got 4 hours of the Bible with Moses, why not 4 hours of Paris and Achilles?

@brettbrooks5511 2 ай бұрын

@jorgitoislamico4224 because that movie was made at a time when studios were trying to make Epics. Historical Epics really brought in the bucks. But in modern times, movies over 2 hours cause complaints of run time. Do you really think the TikTok generation could handle a 4 hour movie regardless of the topic?

@peterwindhorst5775 3 жыл бұрын

A war because someone lost a rigged beauty contest.

@pas-giaw6055 Жыл бұрын

No, because someone *won* a rigged beauty contest

@sapphiregr1685 3 жыл бұрын

As a Greek, I can ensure you that this was such a good video, keep it up

@TJCKWC 3 жыл бұрын

Also part of the Trojan War multiverse: "Dune". The Atreides claim descent from Agammemnon.

@StefanRadermacher 3 жыл бұрын

Well, Atreides literally means "descendants of Atreus".

@ErklaerMirDieWelt 3 жыл бұрын

18:43 I prefer the version where Artemis rescues Iphigenia and brings her to Tauris from where her brother Orestes later rescues her kind of by accident.

@YaoiHoshi 2 жыл бұрын

Same

@farcydebop7982 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, when the producers saw the low ratings in theater, they asked Euripides to change the ending.

@Namse21 2 жыл бұрын

Heracles was practically immortal... that guy completed his own labours, participated in the Argonautica and had a part in The Iliad?! Absolute Chad I tell you...

@ferrjuan 3 жыл бұрын

22:59 The wooden horse wasn’t an offering to Athena it was an offering to Poseidon because he is the God of the Sea and Horses are associated with him since the Greeks believed that he created horses while Athena is either associated with an Owl or Olive Tree.

@professorsogol5824 3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Athena was the patron saint of Athens (note the phonetic similarity in their names -- Athen -a/s). She supported the Greeks/Mycenaeans throughout.

@apostolos434 3 жыл бұрын

I am greek and i have to say that you do a mistake the horse was a present to Athena. I think that you heard a myth about the name of the city Athens. There was a competitive between Athena and Poseidon and they decided to do presents to Athenians and they said that the olive which I as the Athena s present was more useful and that's why Athens take her name

@ferrjuan 3 жыл бұрын

@@apostolos434 I’m sorry bro but the Horse has always been associated with Poseidon if they really wanted to build something that is associated with Athena then they would have built an owl or a wooden statue of the goddess herself and besides she was already on the side of the Greeks while Poseidon was largely neutral throughout the Trojan War. So it doesn’t make sense for the Trojans to bring in a gift into their walls dedicated to a Goddess who was never on their side. Instead it makes more sense to dedicate the wooden horse to Poseidon in order to get favorable winds and waves since the Greeks supposedly “sailed” away home.

@apostolos434 3 жыл бұрын

@@ferrjuan look you have a point but According to Homer, the Iliad said that while some of the great leaders had entered the horse's belly while others were on board the ships waiting for the final attack and the Achaeans left a soldier behind who told the Trojans that the horse was for the goddess Athena

@legolasgreenleaf727 3 жыл бұрын

I noticed this mistake too, I thought ‘that’s strange I was it was for Poseidon’

@bensondavido4525 3 жыл бұрын

Wait, wasn't Andromeda an Ethiopian princess? She was the daughter of Nilus or someone like that. Her Uncle was the bloke from the myth about the son of Helios who lost control of the Sun Chariot and burned all the people of Africa to explain why they are so dark.

@naurahdeatrisyagitany8365 3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Andromeda is either an Ethiopian princess or a princess of Jaffa in Palestine or maybe both because why not

@bensondavido4525 3 жыл бұрын

@@naurahdeatrisyagitany8365 Right, I'd read she may have been from Susa or Jaffa as well. I think the stories get so jumbled up after so long I think any of those locations would be valid. I think the most important thing is she isn't from Greece which kind of explains Herakles being so similar to foreign gods. It implies he was adapted by greeks into the form we know today. He was probably Shamesh or Gilgamesh or Khonsu.

@naurahdeatrisyagitany8365 3 жыл бұрын

@@bensondavido4525 There is a lot of regional variance in Greek mythology so it's probably that. I've seen a theory that the myths of Heracles gives context to the zodiacs that the Greeks adopted from the Mesopotamians so his foreigness can also be attributed to that though he does have some Gilgamesh-like traits so maybe both

@bensondavido4525 3 жыл бұрын

@@naurahdeatrisyagitany8365 oh yeah that could be it. That Zodiac point is interesting. I have read that he was perhaps originally a sun god that changed due to the influence of Middle Eastern and Egyptian trade, so the fact that he mirrors the zodiac in his labors makes sense. Samson from the bible shares these sun god traits.

@mch7933 3 жыл бұрын

Greeks were well travelled so a lot of the things in their myths had foreign sources or inspirations, or just were foreign characters like Medusa, Andromeda, the Amazons etc

@jamesbradleysears7188 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool. I love foundation myths. When a dynasty claims descent from a god/dess, or mythical creature. Would love to see more videos on those.

@JenniferinIllinois 3 жыл бұрын

And we thought the Hapsburgs were messed up. LOL!!!!

@jozefmasny8349 3 жыл бұрын

You didn't mention that Ephigenia actually survived Agamemnon's sarifice. She was taken by Gods not as an offering, but as a priest on Taurus, today's Crimea where she ended the course of her family by refusing to unwillingly kill her brother Orestes.

@mr.d8747 2 жыл бұрын

*Rome: All roads lead to Rome* *Zeus: Hold my wine*

@Copperkaiju 2 жыл бұрын

There is a version of Achilles's death that I read that I never see anywhere else which is that the arrow that kills Achilles was tipped with the blood of the Hydra, which is fatal to both gods and mortals. After shooting Achilles, Paris accidentally pricks himself with another of the poisoned arrows and dies.

@WhoIsCalli 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve always been so fascinated the Greek stories. Loved this video. Thanks

@StefanRadermacher 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, and very entertainingly told. Thank you, Jack and Matt!

@brandonogle9565 3 жыл бұрын

You should do an intellectual family tree (or chart) of some of the western classics (Homer -- Virgil + Bible--- Dante--Chaucer--Shakespeare--Milton etc.)

@floraposteschild4184 3 жыл бұрын

Warning: the movie "Troy" is mostly awful. The writer announced he was making major changes to interest a modern audience, and it was all downhill from there. And that writer was David Benioff, who later turned his hand to Game of Thrones. And look how that turned out.

@RamManNo1 2 жыл бұрын

The book is better.

@minatodroger7890 2 жыл бұрын

@Anonymus X it's not hate it's true he is a poor writer

@monabohamad2242 2 жыл бұрын

@@minatodroger7890 so it IS hating

@godemperorofmankind3.091 9 ай бұрын

Troy was a finanical and critical success so dunno what you're babbling about.

@mykulpierce 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting is the frankish mythological origin claims to be the descendants of Trojans with the idea that Trojans went into exile and did not die as Illiad had concluded. Francus being Astyanax, the Son of Hector. That he didn't die but survived.

@amaalburhan536 2 жыл бұрын

Aren’t the romans descend from the the Trojans

@tatianaoliveira2191 3 ай бұрын

@@amaalburhan536According to the myths, yes. Rea Silvia, the mother of Romulus and Remus, was regarded as a descendant of Aeneas*. ▪︎ According to a variant of the foundation myth, Aeneas (a Trojan) flees to central Italy. • There he marries the daughter of local king Latinus. • Other Trojans also marry the locals, and their progeny are called the Latins. • Romulus and Remus are direct descendants and founded the city of Rome. • Therefore, the Romans were descendants of these Latins, who were themselves descended from Trojans. ---- * Aeneas was a Trojan hero, the son of the Trojan prince Anchises and the Greek goddess Aphrodite. ▪︎ Aeneas 's father was a first cousin of King Priam of Troy. ▪︎ In the story ''Aeneid'' by Roman poet Virgil, Aeneas is cast as being an ancestor of Romulus and Remus (founders of Rome).

@anickmartin9795 3 жыл бұрын

Yay a video on the family tree of one of my favorite books. Thank you so much for the video

@skallagrimr_kveldulfsson 3 жыл бұрын

1:48 The world of playdoh :) Sounds fun!

@MB20128 3 ай бұрын

Toddlers: YUMMY!

@paine_inflicta 2 жыл бұрын

RE the children of Leda - A variant I had heard was that one egg held Helen and Polydeuces, while the other held Castor and Clytemnestra - ie, one egg held Zeus' children, one held the children of her husband.

@roebuckmckinney 3 жыл бұрын

Super good video. I see myself watching it a couple more times to really get it down.

@AnimalLover-is2fc 3 жыл бұрын

Odysseus had a young family so I understand why he did not want to go.

@11Najim11 3 жыл бұрын

The channel is underrated, gotta bump up those subs

@kingsta9367 2 жыл бұрын

The way homer included the gods in the war was just amazing,

@robertschlesinger1342 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.

@enzocypriani5055 4 ай бұрын

The single most helpful overview about it

@untruelie2640 2 жыл бұрын

Cassandra is my favourite character too. :D In many ways, she is the most tragic (in the true greek sense) person in the whole epic. Yet, her story is so powerful that even her name has become a metaphor.

@MegaUMU 3 жыл бұрын

Wanna point out that Jack used the Romanized name of Heracles "Hercules" instead of its original greek one. This has mostly been popularized by the trend at the time of the production of Disney's Hercules movie as far as I can find

@amkwiesel7241 3 жыл бұрын

It is the one thing that always triggers me. If you are making a Video about Greek Mythology say Heracles if it's about Roman say Hercules. Not that hard

@jamesbradleysears7188 3 жыл бұрын

The live action television series with Kevin Sorbo was on before the Disney animated feature. The "sword & sandal" film fad was several decades earlier.

@MegaUMU 3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesbradleysears7188 the disney movie had one of the bigger maybe one of the biggestbinpacts on the usage of the romanized name, but defo wasnt the first. It went along with the trends at the time which like u said was ofc before the movie

@wesleyhunt7599 3 жыл бұрын

Arnold Schwarzenegger's Hercules in New York premiered in the late 60's. I think that was what started it.

@whatoccurredtoday-dailyhis5624 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, very informative i didn't know these

@ltyrell75 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing video today and I'm suggesting for the next video to be about the Rulers of Georgia and or Montenegro

@thomasdixon4373 3 жыл бұрын

Love all the mythology family trees!

@matvogel 2 жыл бұрын

In 4th grade my brothers high school theatre department performed the Women of Troy, which has been a locked memory for me. he had me come in and play Astyanax aka the son of Hector, who gets thrown off the wall after the Trojan Horse massacre. Thank you for finally putting context to a 15 year old memory because 9 year old me did not understand a word of it.

@enzocypriani5055 4 ай бұрын

Wow. That was extremely useful

@clockworkkirlia7475 3 жыл бұрын

Brilliant video! My favourite story that didn't make the cut? According to Snorri Sturlson's Prose Edda (y'know, the *other* source for Norse Mythology), even *Thor* is a grandson of Priam through his mother, Troana. Thor's father in this version is not Odin, but Menon or possibly Memnon, depending on how you interpret things. Menon is just a Trojan Soldier, but _Memnon_ is an Aethiopian king and son of Eos. Memnon is one of the mightiest heroes of the Trojan War (according to the Posthomerica), fighting Achilles so well that Zeus made both of them giants just so everyone could see how badass they were. This ends poorly for Memnon, which ends up routing his army, but still! Snorri might just have meant Menon, but I quite like the idea that Thor, in the midst of the magnificent acid trip of the Prose Edda, is somehow the son of this other ridiculous king. Even with the interpretation that he's "just" a Trojan prince, it's one of the weird and wonderful details of the half of Norse Mythology that we tend to see less of in media.

@je9026 3 жыл бұрын

The odyssey is one of my favourite stories, I wanna read it again 😊

@InsertNameHereBoi Жыл бұрын

Amazing. This needs to be a soap opera

@darthsilversith667 2 жыл бұрын

So interesting! I wish we could get a greek/roman mythology movie universe like the MCU. So much potential there.

@englishliterature2890 2 жыл бұрын

MCU Means?

@Valerion02 2 жыл бұрын

@@englishliterature2890 It means Marvel Cinematic Universe. It refers to all the Marvel / Avengers movies that share a universe.

@B-Shells 10 ай бұрын

Same always thought about that

@Letlotlo2Thoriso 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Jack.Can you do a review of King Moshoeshoe of Lesotho and how the nation of Basotho started.Keep up the good work,thank you

@legolasgreenleaf727 3 жыл бұрын

This was a wonderful video! The only person I would consider important that I noticed wasn’t mentioned was Andromache, then there is Ctimene, Odysseus’ sister but she’s not super important. Oh and Myrto, Patroclus’ sister, but she is only briefly written about in the writing of Plutarch

@keelieinwonderland 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, I just saw your Hawaiian monarchs video (really loved that) I was wondering could you do the Maori monarchs. I don’t see (or at most 0.1%) a lot of people covering and as someone who is I thought that’s be an interesting one to look over

@jbaoyy13 Жыл бұрын

Wow that was amazing

@shinsenshogun900 3 жыл бұрын

Cant wait for Calico Jack's take on any of the Trojan War characters, assuming that there are a lot of great and awful odd bunches inside this epic conflict

@BelieviXComeOn 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just here to say that insiders have revealed newest info to TMZ that Patroclus and Achilles were making love to each other in those war tents.

@stephenodell9688 3 жыл бұрын

For Greeks that would not surprise me seeming that the Greeks believed that a man could not have a meaningful relationship with a woman.

@PsyrosGR 2 жыл бұрын

They were making love to Briseis and Iphis. Read the book ffs. In book 9 Achilles says that he is in love with Briseis and he wants to marry her. He stopped the war because of this woman. Unless you're being sarcastic, please next time inform yourself before posting.

@PsyrosGR 2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenodell9688 Achilles stopped fighting (and abandoned temporally his Path to Glory) because of his relationship with a woman. (Briseis) Orpheus went to Hades because of his relationship with a woman (Euridice). Hercules fought Death himself (Charon) because of his friend's relationship(!) with a woman (Alcestis) Ancient Greeks believed that a man can have a meaningful relationship with a woman. Al Bundy believed otherwise.

@emilybarclay8831 2 жыл бұрын

@@PsyrosGR I don’t mean to shock you, but the concepts of ‘straight’ and ‘gay’ did not exist at the time. Men were expected to have sexual relationships with both men and women in different social contexts

@PsyrosGR 2 жыл бұрын

@@emilybarclay8831 I don’t mean to shock you, but the concept of sexual relationship did not exist at the time. Men were expected to penetrate women, children and feminine or weak men as a show of dominance. It was the Bronze Age. Patriarchy ruled. Just like Rome 1000 years later or Saudi Arabia today.

@dark_fire_ice 3 жыл бұрын

I waiting for the inevitable veneration of the most epic fanfic ever

@aniE1869 3 жыл бұрын

What a nice family!

@pennykaylyn5698 3 жыл бұрын

This was a great video!! Can you do The Faerie Queen by Edmund Spenser with Una and the Lion and St. George?

@chelli6555 3 жыл бұрын

This is so interesting. Great video!

@kingsta9367 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so grateful that I had the privilege to learn greek so I've read iliad in greek and am just amazed by the details and characters of the story

@indiaarmeniazindabad3313 3 жыл бұрын

Yesterday was the 200th anniversary of Greece's independence day lol.

@YT911YT 3 жыл бұрын

I wish they restore the monarchy.

@indiaarmeniazindabad3313 3 жыл бұрын

@@YT911YT Maybe, but I'm not sure if it is popular rn.

@histori6259 3 жыл бұрын

@@YT911YT bro why, monarchies are the most useless things. parasites bro

@hamiltoneuzarraga6546 3 жыл бұрын

When's the economic independence anniversary?

@mathieuleader8601 3 жыл бұрын

this videos release was most serendipitious

@sleekoduck 3 жыл бұрын

People studied this in academies for a thousand years until Caesar burned the library at Alexandria. Great topic!

@monabohamad2242 2 жыл бұрын

@Anonymus Xbasically all I got is that obnoxious hypocritical enemies of smart religion/s just wanna have some shitty BS excuse/s to be obnoxious hypocrites

@brienneoftarth7717 Жыл бұрын

The idea that Caesar destroyed the library of Alexandria is a ridiculous myth. The building was damaged when Caesar burned the royal fleet, but the contents were fine and the library survived through all of antiquity, but it declined in importance. The destruction of the library is a creation of much later times. Also, the library of Alexandria wasn’t established until 5 centuries after Homer wrote down the epic cycle.

@sayedlincoln 3 жыл бұрын

I love Jack Rackam. Especially his voice

@vibinginmybedroomrn9948 3 жыл бұрын

@Jason Bailey He does have a channel

@DrDeadlifts 3 жыл бұрын

tbh I turn it off when I hear Jack's voice. His cadence and vocal fry annoy the hell out of me.

@crispybacon9917 2 жыл бұрын

"You'll find Hercules" The chart giving the correct Greek name for him: Am I a joke to you?

@halam899live8 3 жыл бұрын

Great video today keep it up your doing amazing job

@t-rexje9100 Жыл бұрын

I loved the video! Although you did cut out one of my favorite parts: The slave Agamemnon and Achilles fought over was actually the daughter of a priest of Apollo. The priest offered to buy her free, but Agamemnon said no. Apollo got mad about that and spread disease around the greek camps. A lot of greek men were dying. The disease would stop if Agamemnon gave back the daughter, but he didn't want that because then he would be touched in his honor, so he demanded that he would get whatever slave Achilles had. Because Agamemnon had first choice in all the stuff they looted from Troy, and Achilles second, so he wanted the second best girl if he couldn't get the best one. Achilles eventually had to agree, but was humiliated and ran away. Also one of my other favorites: Yet another priest of Apollo and Poseidon: Laocoön. He tried to warn the Trojans of Odysseus's plan with the wood horse. He ran down the hill with his two sons while scolding the Trojans with how stupid they are to accept the horse, he stabbed the horse, cutting off one of the greeks ears. But then out of the water came two snakes sent by Poseidon who fought on the side of the greeks. (or in some versions the snakes got sent by Apollo as a sign that he is right, and the Trojans should beware the horse.) The snakes immediately began to strangle Laocoön his two sons, and then Laocoön himself. There was a statue made off of this, and it is one of the prettiest statues made in that time period. (it was estimated to be made between 200 BC to 70 AD.) But it was somehow lost. Books described the statue as being one of the prettiest, so historians were really obsessed with finding it. But first they recreated it, based off of the old sources. Then one day a farmer was digging in his land when he found it, buried in his garden. Scientist were so happy that the farmer found the statue that he got some kind of important funeral when he died.

@kirandeepchakraborty7921 Жыл бұрын

One of the Greatest Tale ever.

@nikolaytsankov9066 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video but in my opinion it's far too simplified. Also a mention on the chart of Piyama-Radu, mentioned I Hittite records as a possible king Priam as well as other similar ones would be beneficial. But sadly this here is far too little information for my taste, the illiad is a huge book with so many characters

@noahburns6042 3 жыл бұрын

It’s more than most people would do

@jamesbradleysears7188 3 жыл бұрын

Please make a supplemental video filling in those details for us!

@foliveira1632 2 жыл бұрын

This was amazing! Thanks! However I don't ever recall Achiles saying that agamemnon was tge greatest. Ib the first book they all are very aware that Achiles is the strongest while agamemnon being the chief commander of the Greeks (being the king of Micenas - the city that contributed the most in terms of army)

@insulaarachnid 3 жыл бұрын

Could you do this with Irish mythology? Maybe Cu Chulainn in the Ulster Cycle?

@o-o2399 3 жыл бұрын

I'm excited for this a family tree again 😊😊

@Alexwhatisit 2 жыл бұрын

I read that copy of the Iliad. Gotta be honest, had no idea what the hell was going on. You however explained it very well. Thank you.

@alienalajna 10 ай бұрын

By the way, thanks for an excellent who's who of the ancient world. I recently finished Pat Barker's "The Silence of the Girls", a fine, convincing, and even moving account of the last phase of the Trojan War, as told from the point of view of the women - Briseis, to be precise. I may pick up Richmond Lattimore's Iliad, neglected since my long-ago college days, now that my memory is a bit refreshed by Barker's novel.

@piratehqqker 3 жыл бұрын

One of my favorite topics, and Jack Rackham is narrating. Things are turning up Milhouse

@DougVandegrift Жыл бұрын

I think the 2006 movie of Troy did a good job at wrapping up this wild and crazy timeline and making it an enjoyable 2 hour watch.

@thegratefultraveller9395 2 жыл бұрын

Great.👍

@ducovanderwoude6971 3 жыл бұрын

Any chance for more vids on post-Roman rulers like you did for the Merovingians?

@Danielperezguitar 3 жыл бұрын

*Hey!* , i just realize Castor and Polux are also the main villains of the action film Face Off! they are brothers and their surname is troy! , any hidden lore there ?LOL

@shinsenshogun900 3 жыл бұрын

The film director must be a fan of Spartan mythology

@ironiccookies2320 2 жыл бұрын

zeus spreading his genes across the world like genghis

@saarxx7253 3 жыл бұрын

Could you make a video about the Amazigh people of North-Africa and the different tribes? I'd really appreciate it as it's hard to find information about the history. I'd like to learn more about my ancestors and their history

@ZephLodwick 3 жыл бұрын

This is why I love Greek mythology.

@jakebush9411 3 жыл бұрын

Also could you do a family tree for Presidents with living descendants?

@sumnerwaite6390 3 жыл бұрын

George Washington’s family had no male heirs?

@jakebush9411 3 жыл бұрын

@@sumnerwaite6390 i dont believe Washington had any children of his own. He adopted hus wifes children from another marriage

@jakebush9411 3 жыл бұрын

@Jason Bailey seriously? Thats very intresting and would be an awesome video. A very very long vedio tho.

@jesusislukeskywalker4294 3 жыл бұрын

some say 42 or 43 are all related. goes way back. google: HaRishon

@djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905 2 жыл бұрын

This is the most insane video of all time. You’re telling me that Zeus is not only the creator of the Greek empire, but he also ended up creating the Macedonian, Roman, and early British Empire? That is fucking insane I did not know that, fucking mind blown, and to top it off that Alexander the great ancestors were both Achilles and Hercules? That is truly insane…..

@godemperorofmankind3.091 9 ай бұрын

according to people who wanted to hype themselves up as much as possible. there's serious doubt over whether most of these people even existed.

@djprincegrandmasteryrjdalo2905 9 ай бұрын

@@godemperorofmankind3.091 What is Zeus who knows Achilles and Hercules maybe the Alexander The Great did exist though

@claudiafilippini4724 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the video! Where can I find the chart, in pdf or to buy?

@edpalmer5403 3 жыл бұрын

Could you do one on Joseph of Arimathea

@cassandraland5216 Жыл бұрын

Great work! I only wish you had put Cassandra on the actual chart. Yes, there were a lot of siblings, but she _was_ Paris' twin.

@cgt3704 3 жыл бұрын

Will you do the romanian royals ?

@shafiazam5761 3 жыл бұрын

Please do a video on nanda and mauryan family tree

@JR_ST 2 жыл бұрын

I did not expect to find you here Jack. I came looking for copper, and found gold!

@danaekolyva3309 2 жыл бұрын

Re: Leda, my professor told us the version in which she bore two eggs, one with Helen and one with the Dioscuri, and that Clytemnestra was actually her eldest daughter (from Tyndareus). So the whole egg-laying situation was the first instance in a long sequence of bullshit the poor girl would have to put up with.

@projectreracccty4764 Жыл бұрын

Danaë the Argive princess of Argos and the mother of Perseus founder of Mycenae and believed by many Iranians to be their direct ancester. Interesting name and to those that might not know this the word "kollyvo" means cereal grain in Ancient Greek. One of the spelling variations is kolyva. The ancient Greeks offered cooked seeds and nuts during the festival of Anthesteria in honor of Dionysus. Scientists also called one of the moons of Saturn "Anthe" I think it is short for Athena or Athene as in the daughter of Zeus or the biblical Shem and as you may already know Enceladus was another moon of Saturn named after the son of Gaia (Titea "Tytea") and Ouranos or Uranus (biblical Noah) Dionysus was the son of Zeus (biblical Shem) look at the name "Parsuash" another name for the Persians as in ParZeus. Japheth son of Noah was the ancestor of the Persians through his son Ma'edai "Madai" (Iranian Medes) The festivals were held until the Keres departed which were supposedly the female spirits, the daughters of Nyx who herself was the daughter of Kháskō "Khaínō" "Kháos" "Chaos" and Caligini "Caligine" "Caligo". Anthesteria (anthes) ánthos means "flower" in Sanskrit andhas "soma plant". Soma was often used with ghee (ghrita) and honey (madhu) and its meaning is traced back to the "bloom" of the grape vine. We know Noah was a farmer, and the first person to plant a grape vineyard.

@projectreracccty4764 Жыл бұрын

I want to add that son of or daughter of just like in the bible can mean literally a child of a certain person(s) or a direct descendant.

@Xastor994 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question: You say that the claim that Achilles and Petrocles were lovers is not a modern interpretation, but then follow that up with interpretations by Shakespeare and Plato - claims still centuries away from the events at hand. Given what we know about classical Greece, do you think it is possible that their relationship was only then interpreted as romantic by the classical Greeks, or do we have evidence that would suggest that romance between men was common in Bronze Age Greece as well?

@lukitasmol10 2 жыл бұрын

The normality of homossexuality in classical greece, came from a time before...

@waverod9275 Ай бұрын

There's two modern tie-ins that I know of. First, Iphigenia ends up in Brooklyn somehow, according to PDQ Bach. Second, the line of Atreus is (by in-story legend) associated with the Atreides in Dune.

@Drag0nfoxx 2 жыл бұрын

Not directly related to the Trojan royal family like the British and French stories, but another interesting connection: the 17th century play Gijsbrecht van Aemstel, by Dutch poet Joost van den Vondel. It parallels the Iliad and especially the Aeneid, with Amsterdam as Troy.