I have a D2 1960's/70's (looks like R2D2 from Star Wars) Rainbow and it STILL works. I inherited it from my Mom and Dad when they upgraded theirs. They will last a looooong time.

It's very expensive but if people only sees how many times they have to purchased vacuum due to not working etc. It cost more. I bought this and ditch my Dyson. My son allergies has gone a lot better since then. Best ever vacuum honestly compare to Dyson.

Agreed. Ok, so his air purifier may purify the air, but what about the source?? The carpets, hard wood flooring etc. That's why the Rainbow is superior because it can help clean all of those surfaces and then clean the air!

Does a Rainbow use ionization??

sinful928 No, Rainbow does not use ionization. It uses ONLY water source as a main filter and a HEPA rear exhaust filter (which on most e series are washable)

Paige Mihalik Agree with you. Ionizer cannot be used especially people with asthma.

Sorry, but what you decide is not so. everything depends on the concentration of ozone if you use a .01%, the effect is the opposite. if everything that produces an electric arc leaves ozone. the office photocopier too. the ionizers, for example the ionic pro leaves a residue of .02%. what happens is that ozonizers that in turn ionize the minimum level of ozone is .05%. if the power is something else. but if you use it with a certain ventilation to an ionizer there is no problem. otherwise I could not be writing this for a long time. What you do not have to do is not use it outside of what the manual says. if you operate properly, you do not have it because you have problems. It is more, for ozonation of a room. I leave a ventilation, I put a timer plug with a while before leaving and I return hour or more after that I cut automatically. When I arrive there is no ozone residue. I use the ionizer low and with ventilation and it works correctly without problems. What you should not do is let the ozone residue accumulate in large quantities in a closed room where you are. that's it. As I said at first, everything depends on the level of concentration to which you are exposed.

I'd say if you want one of those ozone generator air systems, you'd better have a filter to catch all of the dust that gets dragged down by the negative ion charge. It's gonna get on EVERYTHING. As for running an E2 all the time, it's a brushless motor. It's made for super long duty cycles. I run ours every night as we sleep, and my wife has been sleeping better as a result. It may be in part to the humidity that the machine adds to the room, but it's definitely catching things in the water that I can see when I empty it.

Exactly!

There are two repositories for water, one clean and one dirty. You will be amazed when you see what the Rainbow pulls into that dirty water.

Hours don't really matter much to an E2 with a brushless motor. For an E Series, or a D3/D4/SE, yeah, you're gonna wear through the brushes, but that's just not a consideration on any E2.

​@@TrooperSamVery interested please explain a little more.

They are totally worth the price because they last so long. I had mine almost 30 years. Last summer I found myself watching a youtube video on one of the best hotels in London and they were using a Rainbow in the Dining Room.

Andrew Wood I did the same thing haha!

Ya what happens if it breaks down, if you purchased it from Craigslist then it didn't come with a warranty, Rainbow never sales online, therefore if you purchased it online brand new then it was for sure stolen, and if anybody ever checks the serial number on the side of the machine and it comes up stolen, then you will be in possession of stolen goods. food for thought.

Yeah, because nobody EVER sells their personal property online. It's ALWAYS stolen, right? Damn those tweakers stealing vacuums for drug money! The tweaker I bought mine from (I've never met a tweaker in his seventies dressed nicely and driving a nice car and living in a retirement community before!) even stole the boxes with it, and gave them to me as part of the sale! He even stole the receipt with his NAME on it! Man, that's just not bright. Heck, you don't even need a warranty with an E2. They're dead simple to work on. Parts are easily available, and surprisingly inexpensive. The motor price isn't even bad, though the controller is a bit steep at nearly $300, but that's about it. I paid $350 for mine used, and I'm pretty happy about it.

how about now?

Then you must have an earlier E2, not an E Series. The E Series has a single speed brushed motor. Only the E2 models have a dedicated air purifier mode, and only they sound like that.

I'm confused. Are you asking whether or not the rainbow vacuum cleaner is better than all of the other vacuum cleaners or are you asking whether not that air filter he has over on the left is better than the rainbow's filtration system?

ahh vacuuming up concrete bits and putting them in water sounds like one horrible cleanup to be honest

Marita Buck

take it to an rainbow dealer, its under warranty, they will fix it

Rainbows exhaust water vapor. You can easily test this yourself with a 10 dollar humiditiy tester. Let it run a while you will see humidity go up. Which humidity will bring down dust, etc, My problem with this is, and with cleaning. Once the water starts to get dirty, you're exhauting dirty vapor out.

You can actually earn it for free!

Cole Nedrow what can water filter? I think only dust not other particles smaller than dust. Most of the air purifier has the HEPA filter with at least 0.3 micro, the best is Atmosphere with 0.009 micro can even filter virus, bacteria, dioxin etc.. Honestly, Rainbow cant do that.

+Cole Nedrow For cleaning air in one's house, an electrostatic filter will outperform the Rainbow vacuum cleaner at much lower acquisition cost and operating cost. Any electrostatic filter will remove particles as small as a pollen grain, and smaller.

You should use a HEPA filter with activated carbon to clean odors, a top end model costs about $800.

The ozone feature of units like these are best used with windows and doors closed and while you, your family and pets are not at home, because they can cause mucous membrane and respiratory irritation. Buy a cheap timer at a hardware store and set it to turn off the ozone unit two hours before you get home. (This is according to one of my owner's manuals). Upon entering your house open all windows in the areas affected for a short time. This is what we have done and have had great success. These types of units can be bought brand new on eBay or Amazon for about $120. They all work pretty much the same, except some units offer more filtering options. Remember to read your owner's manual thoroughly. One of the best things you can do is to download several different owners manuals/user guides in pdf format. Some will give much better and accurate info than others. Hope this helps.

I'm in Hong Kong cooking asian food and pan grill steak plus dogs and I have the E2 model. To give you a honest experience, NO it do not help to remove smell, the best way is let the range hood run for another 15 mins after your cooking plus light up a candle and mop the floor. Good Luck!

Mamako0 Rainbow explicitly states smoke, ash, drywall plaster are un-wettable and will not we able to be water filtered. It will help the smell but for immediate relief you need to put on high vac mode. However the entire filtration will be done with your HEPA and will "fill it up faster" leading to sooner replacement. If you scent the water with something, everything you smell of that scent is the new air your rainbow is putting out. That way you know it is working. Also oil particles in the air with cooking are best filtered by your range hood as it is designed with carbon and wire collection to capture the oils and smoke depending on your quality of filter. A hood honestly should be able to capture your cooking related smell issue so maybe the hood is avg build or filters are clogged and full. The have to be constantly cleaned and replaced. airborne oil and water do not mix inside a rainbow well and may also clog the HEPA filter quicker over time. -Source, I own 2 e series and used to work with a major appliance retailer that also included sales of performance kitchen hoods. If you reallllllllly want to try with the rainbow again use a cut to fit carbon filter and put it between the exhaust and the HEPA filter, it will help with some odor left behind. I will try to post a video in which you can create your own custom filter for the unit using an old filter canister in the coming months. This way you could potentially do a high carbon based filter for your exact need of odor control.

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Not a vacuum. An air purifier that replaces a vacuum as well. But no filters. Just water. And only costs about $2.50 a month running 24/7 on low

If by the end of your presentation they basically considered it to be a vacuum cleaner, then you were not a very good salesman.

@@XtremiTeez A. I sold a number of them while I was with the company B. I left because I didn't want to a vacuum cleaner salesman for my future, and C. If you never sold this product you don't know what the hell you're talking about

That's the thing, when buying a NEW rainbow this makes some bit of sense when you spend 2500 and want to offset motor hours. I bought 2 e series rainbows with full kits for under 500. One I use solely for air purification because I had to ditch my ozone creating one, health hazard is too high. Water and HEPA is a simple tried and true combo. I will do a vid at some point for an e2 on solely air purification performance as I get used to the units I just got.

that is one damn expensive air purifier then.. and I think that was his point. they just make the attachments separate as to force people into selling the vacuums for them and if you don't you can't use a 3 thousand dollar machines full potential.

I'd say one of the ion/ozone units would work very well together with a Rainbow. The negative ion charge would take the particles out of the air and stick them to surfaces, and the Rainbow could be used to pick them up from there.

I agree. And I don't think you have to run it all the time either! Once a day for an hour, in each 500 square feet of your house, is plenty clean enough air for most people. I do think using distilled water is better, so that the minerals found in regular water don't disperse.

@Sizzling Grill it does the job of a vacuum but technically it's far better than a vacuum. It's a home cleaning system, you get all the attachments you'll never need even a mop again.

lol ya but no one can really believe when you say because we know you are trying to sell them

I actually had a kirby before I got a rainbow. I cleaned my floors ALOT the night before my demo and made sure we stayed out of the house until my demo. I wanted it clean. During my demo he got up SO much dirt from AFTER the Kirby. He even had me do 52 strokes with kirby, to represent vaccuming for a year, assuming you vac once a week. After me vaccuming the night before, and then the 52 stroke on top of that all with my kirby, he did TWO strokes with the rainbow over the exact same spot that I did the 52 and the amount of dirt he got up blew my mind. Kirby really really sucks. Want to really put your foot in your mouth? Shine a bright spotlight on the bag of your kirby when you turn it on.. Keep that light attached the whole time you vacuum and see how long you'll keep vacuuming and breathing in the dust and bacteria it's throwing into your lungs.

This is the oldest trick in the book, if you reverse it. The kirby will make a rainbow look less effective. I've seen more valuable tests done. Like take baby powder "which is a no no on a rainbow, same with ash, drywall, sand, basically anything that floats this is another advantage to a kirby you can vac any of these according to the manufacturer. Anyway, Place it on a hardwood floor and place a rug over it and see which one sucks more threw the rug. Once the rug is removed you can literally see how much is left on the floor using a rainbow compared to a kirby unlike the other test where you can't see what's left on the carpet. Though, a rainbow is still better than most store brands. The attachments on the kirby like the hardwood mop and shampooer is a lot more well done. Another thing most people don't realize about a rainbow is you should change the water and clean it after every room. Reason being, rainbow does exhaust water vabor. You can easily test this by getting a humidity tester and let it run in purifier mode and you will see the humitdy go up in the room. Imagine dirty water vapor? YUCK! Also, It has been proven in other air purifier test not vacuum related A HEPA filter which rainbow now uses is better than water. It is true a kirby filter will get plugged over time, be less effective, and start to smell. My answer. CHANGE THE DAMN BAG! Geeze, I would much rather change a 3 dollar bag You get like 6 for 15 dollars on Amazon, that you should change at least once a month, maybe twice if you're a heavy user like any filter wether it being a air purifier or a furnance filter. Than empty water and clean a untit for every room which you should, or everytime like most people. Kirby uses the latest HEPA in its bags, you can even get one that is charcoal infused. charcoal is used.in most air purifiers because it helps with VOCs something water couldn't even do.

+Lorn Blazewww.ebay.com/gds/Some-Advice-Before-Buying-A-Filter-Queen-Vacuum-/10000000002540682/g.html

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!! Dude test your filter Queen side by side with a Rainbow, Rainbow wins every time, you cant get better results with a dry filtration than wet filtration, it's not possible, wet filtration wins every time, think about it, the planet uses water to clean herself, it's a universal cleanser, not a man made dry filter full of holes that has been scientifically proven to spread filth and disease around the home, people please do your homework.