Using Angle of Attack For Great Landings

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3 жыл бұрын

On today’s video, we are in Las Vegas, Nevada at the Henderson Executive Airport where I’m going to get a lesson from top Cirrus instructor Chuck Cali, on how to use angle of attack and an angle of attack indicator to deliver those smooth silky landing we are all looking for.
Come along for the ride.

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@pilothound1582 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome information here mate thank you and love the vid 🛩🤙🏼

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for posting. Cheers-Ren

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Pilot hound. Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers-Ren

@LambroSteve Жыл бұрын

Well done. Just picked up my 2022 SR22T and wanting to learn the AOA landing, did it a couple times when I flew in Hawaii, thank you for the video

@TheRenBaron Жыл бұрын

It's a good check for what you are seeing out the window. Trust your eyes...but verify with the AOA! Enjoy your Cirrus! Cheers-Ren

@susanshroder1002 3 жыл бұрын

Again Steve a great video. as a suggestion to all I have found it helps focus my scan on the AOAI to get rid of the traffic inset map on the PFD. Yes it is only on FIKI planes. Thanks for all the work you put in to make these videos. Much appreciated.

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

Great tip Susan. I've been trying lately to do a better job of removing stuff from the screen I'm not really using. It's easy to get lazy and just go with what you're used to seeing whether your using it or not. But its actually easier to just get rid of it. Thanks for posting. Cheers-Ren

@wrphelan 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video!

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it. Cheers-Ren

@mohammadmianji311 2 жыл бұрын

I really liked the video 😀

@TheRenBaron 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and posting Mohammad! Cheers-Ren

@ProPilotPete 3 жыл бұрын

Great tutorial and camera angles

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting Pete. We had alot of fun making it. I learned alot myself. Cheers-Ren

@20windman 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! I was wondering if you ever use the flight path angle (FPA) which shows a dashed line for a 3 degree descent.

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

No. And apparently not many others did as well. I'm told that it will be removed in the next update of the Cirrus Perspective + software update. Thanks for posting. Cheers-Ren

@edwatters5758 3 жыл бұрын

Jan, Garmin swung and missed with the FPA. It’s been eliminated with the new software updates.

@20windman 3 жыл бұрын

@@edwatters5758 Ed, I kind of liked the FPA and never heard of features being removed! What do you mean swing and missed - what's wrong with the FPA?

@edwatters5758 3 жыл бұрын

@@20windman “Clutta”, and a bit of TMI.

@20windman 3 жыл бұрын

@@edwatters5758 Well I lived without it for a long time but I still don't see the problem. You can simply not click on the feature it you don't want it. Kind of like the moving boxes. I don't use them anymore. BTW it's cluttah, not clutta 😁

@mattmovalson9684 3 жыл бұрын

Great video as always. Can the AOA indicator be activated in a Cirrus SR22 G5 version or just in the G6 do you know? If so going to practice that in mine next week!

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not sure but I think it is G6 feature available on FIKI equipped planes.

@JeffHare-financial-advisor 3 жыл бұрын

Works in the G5 as well but maybe only on FIKI planes

@mattmovalson9684 3 жыл бұрын

Just looked, I should be good to go. Now I just need a practice coming in steep like your CSIP’s landing. Wow 😳

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

Just get that AOA at 3 o'clock and the rest will take care of itself.

@zacharynorman397 3 жыл бұрын

Hey buddy, maybe I missed this, but how do you actually turn the AOA on? Is it under PFD options (kinda guessing so).

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Check out profiles vid for details

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

I believe your plane needs to be FIKI equipped as well.

@latobkk830 3 жыл бұрын

Steve: Question re AOA Indicator - will it provide the pilot with accurate AOA info in all flight regimes? i.e., up at altitude practicing Steep Turns, Slow Flight Clean, Slow Flight Full Flaps, Stall practice, etc... It will continue to read accurately / not just used for landing?

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

That's a great question. I imagine it does but I'm going to do some checking first just to make sure. I'll get back to you on that one.

@dovahseod 3 жыл бұрын

Well, there's a reason those 737 MAX 8 aircraft plunged into the ground

@chuckcali1913 3 жыл бұрын

Simple answer, yes it will.

@rnordquest 3 жыл бұрын

@@dovahseod Sure is. They didn’t know to use the trim shutoff switch. They had the same problem the night before and only a 3rd pilot knew what to do. Then they went ahead and put a faulty airplane back into the air the next day.

@Matt.Jernigan 3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Steve, just a remember I am a fan not a pilot. However, I have a question. I know there is a lot of factors involved, but on average what is the flight time for a 650nm flight? Thanks

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

The simple answer is that it would be 3 to 3.5 hours in my Cirrus SR22T aircraft. Cheers-Ren

@Matt.Jernigan 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheRenBaron Thank you

@darrengillespie3647 3 жыл бұрын

I’m unclear when full flaps should be activated. On the instructor landing, I believe he went full flaps almost immediately after turning base. Others and I believe Cirrus instructions say only when the runway is assured and on final do you go full flaps. I’ll look at my FOM again which I don’t have with me. I don’t believe I was ever taught to land using the 3 o’clock AOA method. If it’s the primary indicator, it’s odd to me it’s the smallest indicator to see. I was surprised by the Bravo airspace notice with a Instructor onboard. The MFD clearly shows the Bravo airspace when dialed in appropriately. The VFR charts aren’t required to see the Bravo. Pattern work isn’t something I practice a lot so I learned plenty on power settings to manage speed and altitude. I love the series and this was fascinating given I thought I was hearing important material for the first time. Note: I fly out of KHND and go to KSMO frequently. So everything was very real for me.

@TheRenBaron 3 жыл бұрын

The brief entry into Bravo was on me. I got too focused on what we were going to do and briefly lost track of my position. With regard to flaps, the first notch of flaps goes in abeam landing point and 2nd notch goes in as we enter base turn. If we were on an IFR approach then we would put 2nd flaps in when field in sight and assured. Thanks for posting.

@chuckcali1913 3 жыл бұрын

It is primary for AOA, it's stature may be slim but it's message loud.

@jayheg4530 7 ай бұрын

I was wondering, does the mask work better over your mouth or on your chin? Thanks.

@TheRenBaron 7 ай бұрын

Not sure what do you think?

@YouTubeAreCommunistScum 2 жыл бұрын

Just don’t get the jabarooski or u might be dead mid flight

@TheRenBaron 2 жыл бұрын

"Jabarooski" ???

@rdawgz866 8 ай бұрын

78kt? Im sorry that is very slow for an airplane we all know doesn't glide well. There is no fee for using more runway, so unless the runway is extremely short (like 2000ft) there is no reason to fly that slow on final.

@TheRenBaron 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting but I'm going to respectfully disagree with you on this one. When landing the SR22T 77-78 knots is exactly the speed you should be at over the numbers. I've flown almost 1,000 hours and 800 landings in my Cirrus and those numbers work. Cheers-Ren

@rdawgz866 8 ай бұрын

Ren you are an excellent pilot and this is only for a respectful discussion. But it seems you targeted that 78kt on short final not over the numbers, not sure how far out you targeted that airspeed. With full flaps this thing would glide like a rock. So yes it has always worked for you but you also never lost an engine. So I don't see the value on being on the slower end of things unless runway length is a factor.