Using Underused Models with special guest Alessandro Sganzerla (Podcast)

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DC HobbitLeague

DC HobbitLeague

Жыл бұрын

Happy New Year from an Unexpected Podcast!
Have a favorite model that you feel is under represented on the tabletop? So do we. Join us as we discuss ways to incorporate models we feel are underused in your competitive lists. Furthermore, as a bonus, the crew is joined by special guest, Italian SBG sensation Alessandro Sganzerla to chat about his recent experiences at Masters level tournaments.
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@seanwhite5750
@seanwhite5750 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys, loving your stuff as always. It would be super helpful if I could get your input on this list. I've been looking at a list that fits the theme of under used models quite well (Gandalf the white). I've been playing a lot of iron hills recently and new year new army I want to challenge myself to make a gandalf the white minas tirith list work. So far I am looking at: Gandy on shadowfax 2 cit guard longbows 4 fountain court with shields 2 knights with shield 4 WOMT with shield and spear 1 WOMT shield spear banner Hurin on horse 3 cit guard longbows 4 fountain court with shields 1 Knight with shield 4 WOMT with shield and spear Irolas 3 cit guard with longbow 4 fountain court with shields 5 WOMT with shields and spears 40 models 800 points 9 might and 8 bows. The list is loosely walls of minas tirith themed (hence no madril or rangers) but that theme is fairly loose. I'd love your input. Cheers guys!
@SonsOfGondor1
@SonsOfGondor1 Жыл бұрын
I love Denethor - though I like using him with Gandalf to offset the high price of that wizard. Denethor, Gandalf, and Hurin is pretty pricey (over 350pts), but with 45 warrior slots, you can flesh out the army to a pretty high model count at 700-800pts.
@SonsOfGondor1
@SonsOfGondor1 Жыл бұрын
Mouth of Sauron + several Great Beasts, allied with 2 Nazgul of Dol Guldur . . . I like it. :-)
@Corppi22
@Corppi22 Жыл бұрын
Dunno if Cave Drakes are underused but here's an unorthodox list around one: 600p Isengard + Moria alliance Lurtz -12 warriors with shield, 2 with pike, 1 with banner&pike Durburz (Leader) -Bat Swarm -Warg Marauder -10 goblins with spear Cave Drake 30 models, 7 might.
@trentlarsen7257
@trentlarsen7257 Жыл бұрын
List Review: I have updated the list I posted on the last video for my escalation league as I feel this may be better. League is 400/600/800 w/ 50% of higher level needing to be from the previous level. Thoughts? I definitely think it is better than the previous list I posted. Isengard- 400 points (24 models): Warband 1- Lurtz w/ shield, 1 warrior with pike and banner, 7 warriors with shield, 7 warriors with pike Warband 2- Mauhur, 6 marauders with bow, 1 berserker 600 points (37 models): Warband 1- Lurtz w/ shield, 1 warrior with pike and banner, 7 warriors with shield, 7 warriors with pike Warband 2- Mauhur, 6 marauders with bow, 2 berserkers, 1 crebain Warband 3- Ugluk, 5 warriors with shield, 5 warriors with pike 800 points (42 models): Warband 1- Lurtz w/ shield, 1 warrior with pike and banner, 7 warriors with shield, 7 warriors with pike Warband 2- Mauhur, 8 marauders with bow, 2 berserkers Warband 3- Saruman on horse, Grima, 5 warriors with shield, 6 warriors with pike, 2 crebain
@dakotahsnyder5125
@dakotahsnyder5125 Жыл бұрын
List Review: 800 point Fiefdoms I have yet to play fiefdoms but I want to get into the army. Warband 1: Imrahil on horse with lance (leader) - 2 axeman - 2 archer with spear - 2 mounted knights with lance - 5 foot knight - 5 man at arms Warband 2: Angbor (single drop) Warband 3: Forlong mounted - 2 axeman - 1 archer - 1 mounted knight with lance - 4 foot knights - 4 man at arms Warband 4: Captain with horse and lance - 2 axeman - 1 archer with spear - 4 foot knights - 3 man at arms Total models = 42 I have a lot of foot knights for the D6. As written I’d use the axeman to support when needed but mainly go 2 handed where I need damage output. I’ve Angbor as a single drop for another Warband, he’s my only other striker and he was a nice fearless bubble (however I do have a war horn so I’m not sure it’s needed). I’ve also seen others back him up with 2 pikes+with the banner and he seems he can be deadly (as long as he gets the 6). Do I have too many foot knights? Should I be swapping them out with more man at arms/axeman? I only have a few bows just so I have them. I can’t fit everything I want in the list
@josephtyler9174
@josephtyler9174 Жыл бұрын
List Review: 700 point Doubles list This would be me and my doubles partners first tournament and we are looking for some advice on how we have made our list. The tournament stipulations are that there is a Max model count of 40 models, and legendary legions are allowed. 700 points Defenders of Helms Deep Player 1 - 350 points Warband 1 - Theoden with shield and heavy armour . 8 Rohan Royal Guard (7 with spear) . 3 Rohan Warriors with shield and spear Warband 2 - Haldir with heavy armour and bow . 4 Galadhrim with bow and spear . 1 galadhrim with bow Player 2 - Warband 3 - Aragorn with armour . 1 Rohan Royal Guard with Banner . 5 Rohan Warrior with shield and spear . 3 Rohan warrior with shield . 5 Galadhrim with spear and shield Haleth son of Hama 34 Models 10 might We're open to any tips on how to rearrange the list.
@giraffediety2477
@giraffediety2477 Жыл бұрын
On the Theme of underused models, I have a Mordor list that I am taking to a 700 point tournament in March that I would like reviewed Warband 1 - Leader Dwimmerlaik on foot 6 orc w/ shield 5 orc w/w spear orc w/ banner, shield, spear Mordor Troll Warband 2 Mouth of Sauron on Armored Horse 5 orc w/ shield 4 orc w/ spear Warband 3 Grishnak 4 orc w/ two handed axe 4 orc w/ spear Warband 4 Black Numenorian Marshal on Horse w/ Lance 2 Morgul Knight 2 orc tracker on warg I am trying to give the Dwimmerlaik lots of opportunities to use his special rule. Each of the warbands has a threat that opponents will want to use Might/Will to counter, and the wraith can be placed nearby to drain those resources. I know the Dwimmerlaik is a poor leader, but the Mouth isn't much better and the wraith can hide behind my orcs and do his job. Looking forward to this episode!
@Deathreaper782
@Deathreaper782 Жыл бұрын
This looks like a fun list but I think you are going to be at a severe disadvantage in say contest of champions or any scenario with maelstrom deployment. Mouth of Sauron's advantage is the ability to be a hero of valor (maybe throw Morgul knights in this warband?). I find it is difficult to use the trolls effectively since they don't have might or will to resist opponents magic. For my playstyle I would compress and bulk out the warbands and try to get a more combat heavy hero for the Dwimmerlaik to work with (I would probably go WK instead - or at least take WK so he can be leader for contest of champions). I also like throwing in a siege engine or fell beast to dictate enemy movement more. My best advice is to look at the possible scenarios you will face and design a list from there.
@giraffediety2477
@giraffediety2477 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathreaper782 Contest could be a problem, but I have my troll in my leader's warband. A troll with a transfix could kill a leader, then all the wraith has to do is kill one guy. I would have to be unlucky twice to lose (once for drawing Contest, twice for troll wiffing). Malestorm could also be a problem, but I can deploy the Dwimmerlaik first and use the other warbands to come in near him. So these scenarios could be problems, but I have ways to mitigate them. I think the troll's weaknesses work well with the dwimmerlaik. The troll can't spend resources to help himself, and his targets generally can. That work well with the dwimmerlaik's special rule, since I can tax those resource expenditures. as long as the troll doesn't die in 1 turn, he can grind out whatever hero he is fighting. I basically only use the dwimmerlaik to transfix heros. Thanks for the comment!
@Deathreaper782
@Deathreaper782 Жыл бұрын
@@giraffediety2477 yes but this is What I mean about using the troll in practice. Even if the enemy hero gets transfixed which is just as likely to be resisted the enemy can just buble wrap the hero in cheap units the large troll base can't fit through, and since the troll cant heroic combat he may be stuck with one cheap enemy per turn. You can try and compel the enemy infantry out of the way but then you can't transfix the enemy hero with the same caster.
@giraffediety2477
@giraffediety2477 Жыл бұрын
@@Deathreaper782 I agree, the base size is something that has to be played around. What would you recommend I replace the troll with? I want something that can hang out 6" of the dwimmerlaik, and cause the opponent to spend resources
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