Utah, BYU, Colorado WANT the Big 12 to Expand East With Clemson, Miami, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh?

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Utah, BYU, Colorado WANT the Big 12 to Expand East With Clemson, Miami, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh?

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According to Yahoo Sports, Kirk Schulz, the President of Washington State University, clarified that the Pac-12 didn't intend to impede the recent adjustments to the College Football Playoff (CFP) format for the 2024 and 2025 seasons. Nevertheless, he voiced concern about potential format changes from 2026 onwards, particularly proposals from the Big Ten and SEC seeking multiple automatic qualifier spots for their conferences.
As a member of the CFP Board of Managers, which includes university presidents from each FBS conference and Notre Dame, Schulz echoed concerns about any conference securing guaranteed automatic berths beyond their champions, reflecting a common sentiment among his peers.
During a virtual meeting, CFP presidents unanimously approved transitioning from the previous 6+6 model to a 5+7 format for the next two seasons, adding an additional at-large spot while reducing automatic qualifying spots to five due to Pac-12 realignment.
Last month, Schulz postponed a vote to present a proposal aiming to maintain the Pac-12's revenue and voting rights privileges beyond 2025. However, the proposal received minimal support among fellow presidents.
Despite his reservations, Schulz supported the move to the 5+7 format. Nevertheless, he remains cautious about potential future adjustments. The impending meeting of the CFP Management Committee, tasked with resolving issues like revenue distribution, voting rights, and format, is crucial for finalizing a new television contract with ESPN.
Expectations are high for the SEC and Big Ten to seek increased revenue, authority, and access in the new model. Schulz highlighted a proposal from his commissioner suggesting a single league could secure four automatic qualifiers, a notion he believes might not resonate well with football fans.
Schulz advocates for greater involvement of presidents in decision-making processes, proposing more frequent calls to discuss CFP matters and broader collegiate athletics issues.
He anticipates the upcoming commissioners' meeting to generate pivotal ideas for the CFP's future and hopes these proposals will involve presidents early in the approval process.
Concerning the Pac-12, despite dwindling membership, it retains positions on both CFP governance groups. Each Pac-12 team will continue to receive its standard Power Five revenue distribution for the next two years. Schulz aims to keep the Pac-12 engaged amidst ongoing discussions about the conference's future, including potential restructuring or merging with the Mountain West.
“There’s a lot in flux right now,” Schulz observed. “It’s crucial for us to remain actively engaged in these conversations.”
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@mmshaun 5 ай бұрын

Give UCF some eastern teams pls. No way we're getting Clemson and Miami, Big 10 and SEC take them. VT, Pitt, NC state, Louisville and GT on the other hand

@CarlaJenkinsTV 5 ай бұрын

Hey take FSU. Both FSU and UCF are in the state university of Florida.

@SvdSinner 5 ай бұрын

Don't underestimate that appeal of becoming the B12's potential perennial top dog. The current trend of big dogs all competing over just 2 conference championships just isn't sustainable.

@patrickboren2211 5 ай бұрын

Actually if ND goes to B1G then Miami is now a small possibility

@jansonroberts2616 5 ай бұрын

It all depends on the number of members that the B1G and SEC end up with. If it’s 24 each, none of those teams that these guys are talking about will be available to the Big 12. More importantly, the Big12 will lose 3 or 4 teams as well. Do the math and look at the landscape.

@patrickboren2211 5 ай бұрын

@@jansonroberts2616True, but the idea that they would go over 20 teams is NIL. What remaining teams are worth $100M? If not, adding is DILUTIVE. Reason why both B1G/SEC hesitant to expand beyond ACC footprints. B1G already at 18, so that's 2 seats. SEC @ 16 so they could grab 4, but they are stingy on expansion. Most see them grabbing 2. So if B1G grabs ND, that's 1 from ACC (FSU). If SEC grabs 2 (Clemson, UNC). Leaves Miami up for grabs.

@kylebenvenuto9321 5 ай бұрын

I agree with adding them. Brings in new markets and adds good programs with money to spend and expands the recruiting area

@davidkreitzer4401 5 ай бұрын

I'd say there is a better than 50% chance Clemson goes B12.

@jeremiahallen9908 5 ай бұрын

Clemson isn't going B12 unless big10 or SEC says no. Pay isn't that much different than the ACC. Only way they would end up big 12 would be an extreme failure of the athletic director at Clemson to land in a better conference once the ACC dissolves

@lastpme 5 ай бұрын

Will have to see what happens with the ACC and what schools the SEC and BIG10 will take. Another issue is how much money will ESPN/Fox Sports will provide the Big 12 take some of those programs. If the ACC goes away I would think VT, Pitt, NCSU, and Louisville would fit the Big 12. I know Miami wants the BIG10 or SEC, but they play in a empty stadium and never won the ACC and the last time they mattered was when they were in the Big East.

@TheFishingNomad 5 ай бұрын

Winning doesn't matter here. The question isn't if Miami is good enough to play in the sec or big10. The question is if adding the Miami media to the sec network or to the big10 network brings in enough money each year.

@nolessgifted6333 5 ай бұрын

Not happening. Hopes and dreams.

@jivetalk1045 5 ай бұрын

The BigXII is a legitimate power conference.

@MercerKnowsBall 2 ай бұрын

LMAO

@jivetalk1045 2 ай бұрын

@@MercerKnowsBall Utah, KSU, UCF, WVU, OKSt, Arizona, and Kansas can compete with teams in the SEC and the Big10.

@wetblanket1977 5 ай бұрын

Utah, even if they were to win a couple of natties would not be a Clemson. Utah was a G5 just not too long ago where Clemson was not. Utah has never won a football natty, Clemson won a natty in the 80s. Utah doesn't even have as many wins the last 5 years as Oklahoma State, utah hasn't even won a new years 6 games. Utah is a wannabe program, they have a couple of conference championships from a conference that is no more. Utah is little leaguers

@georgevan2589 5 ай бұрын

The question going forward is whether the Big 10 and SEC will want to just keep expanding with good brands or will they get greedy and start to figure out ways to get rid of some of their weak sisters that don't carry their weight. If they want to keep those sure W's we could end up with 2 or 3 very large conferences.

@CarlaJenkinsTV 5 ай бұрын

I live in the Big 10 (Ohio). There is no mentioning of getting rid of any teams. That is all SEC (and in a weird way Big 12) talk.

@jansonroberts2616 5 ай бұрын

@@CarlaJenkinsTV go listen to some of Joel Klatt’s podcasts. He has been a major contributor regarding the relegation theory of kicking out the lower tiered B1G schools. It’s getting more popular with some fans but the reality is that no relegation talk has come from any of the conferences. There are by laws that will keep it from becoming anything more than just some fans being fatuous.

@WarHog38KCS 5 ай бұрын

The conference bylaws would require a big majority of the other SEC members to vote any single school out of the SEC. The SEC schools would never do that. I would think the B1G would be identical on all that. No SEC or B1G member majorities with vote out a Vandy or Northwestern. Just too much competitive history.

@rsvp1473 5 ай бұрын

I’d like to know what these guys are drinking before they begin the podcast. They don’t take a breath. lol

@gregsonger7221 5 ай бұрын

Need eastern teams and divide into east and west divisions. Couple of intra division games for each team and each division and division champs face off for Big XII championship.

@user-fe5qb1hp1e 5 ай бұрын

Please note that WVU has been in The Big 12 since 2012 and was the only eastern team. They are also the 15th winningest college football program. We have been trying to get more eastern teams since we got there. Not a new idea.

@sammyvillena9777 5 ай бұрын

It would be neat to get those schools but I kinda doubt they’ll be available. Still, if it happens it’ll be great. Miami, Virginia Tech, Clemson, and Pitt or Syracuse for me. I don’t know how I feel about a league greater than 20.

@henrymoore7899 5 ай бұрын

Perhaps when the ACC comes unraveled, SMU will be able to buy their way back into the AAC?

@davidfloyd9134 5 ай бұрын

Clemson & Miami are not off the table. If you get those two, does the Big12 add 2 or 4 more? If two who are they? VT & NCST? VT & Louisville? Or a Pitt

@DeRochette 5 ай бұрын

“I think in 2-3, maybe 5 years on the outside, everything is gonna change again. And so this may be just a quick couple years of the game [Utah v. BYU] returning, and then everything is blown up again and people go their separate ways.” -Kyle Whittingham, August 2023 Was Kyle scared to play BYU when he said that or has he just been in this business for a long ass time?

@QuentinDude 5 ай бұрын

The-Big-12-really-should-push-hard-for-UNC,FSU,Miami,Clemson...Not-sayin-they-can-land-them-but-they-really-could-use-them-and-they-would-be-a-good-fit-for-football

@frictionhitch 5 ай бұрын

Clemson is the 14th winningest FBS team all time. It does seem like it has been longer than 15 years.

@kogspinz4 5 ай бұрын

The leftovers from the ACC will be relegated to the B12.

@BigT2664 5 ай бұрын

It's already too big as it is. 16 was enough, aren't they already up to 20?

@pistolpete8819 5 ай бұрын

The Big 12 is still adding teams that the Big10 and SEC don't want or the teams don't want to fall to a .500 hovering team. These guys are saying give us Miami, well Miami just got man handled (don't look at score) my Big10 Rutgers in bowl game.

@malcolmjones27 5 ай бұрын

You do know that Miami was not playing with all of its starters right?

@davidvinson4613 5 ай бұрын

Dabo isn’t going anywhere better than Clemson since he isn’t a fan of the transfer portal.

@danhauser3361 5 ай бұрын

Need to merge…Louisville and Duke and NC State …as well…..take us to BB heights never before reached! Football is good….but we are talking 12-14 weekends a year…vs the many games an opportunities in Tourneys and conference battles…twice a week….in BB…..what is wrong with the merged ACC/B12…becoming the BB Mecca. Vs the SEC/B10 football Mecca…1st in BB and ……let the SEC/B10 become the NFL farm team…..just like Baseball… Minor leagues or college football…give the kids a choice…then you don’t have to pay them exorbitant salaries , lose them every year, And worry about them going to school. …you can cheat legally….and let the NFL pick up the cost…they are benefiting free !

@sarahmccoy1941 5 ай бұрын

Of course they want the ACC teams. Adding those teams would make more signficant the Insignificant 16 Conference, ie, the new Big XII.

@Patrick-sg7cm 5 ай бұрын

Not really. If the Big 12 gets any teams from the ACC, it will be the ones that the SEC and the B1G don't want. They will still be insignificant.

@sarahmccoy1941 5 ай бұрын

@@Patrick-sg7cm I don’t know, I do not think the SEC would shy away from Clemson and Miami.

@Alex-pe9bd 5 ай бұрын

Miami has been insignificant like Nebraska for several decades. More than 3/4 of Big 10 will never vie for a national title in football period about the same for SEC.

@Alex-pe9bd 5 ай бұрын

Big 10 is all about Ohio State and Michigan. Oregon , USC and Washington are contenders but we'll see if these teams elevate or crash and burn like what happened to Nebraska going to Big 10. Nebraska was a national brand in Big 8/12 and has tanked horribly that someone from Kansas,it's tough to watch after seeing some competitive games between KState and KU but mostly domination by Nebraska during last 75 years of conference play

@Patrick-sg7cm 5 ай бұрын

@Alex-pe9bd Michigan won a national championship just this year and Ohio State has qualified for the playoffs several times and won the very first CFP.

@BradyMyrup 5 ай бұрын

Please don't give a Utah fan a platform again Drake. Love the podcast, but I hate the Utah Utes

@ericblomquist1975 5 ай бұрын

Yes, Clemson will go wherever FSU goes. I' m saying the SEC

@graemeanderson3079 5 ай бұрын

I think uutsh fen delaionial no way clemson miami or nc stste go big 12.why would go confrence make dame money as acc not going happen.if acc does gocaway big 12' be next make u oaugh u think clemson or miami move big 12.when sec and big ten make triple money big 12"wouod ever make.

@davidvinson4613 5 ай бұрын

In English please

@TheFranchiseCA 5 ай бұрын

Why would the SEC or Big Ten add NC State?

@Tyanmax99 5 ай бұрын

They would leave because once the top 2 or 3 teams leave the ACC, the money the ACC teams would get in a new TV deal will be substantially less.

@brettallen1440 5 ай бұрын

Boy I don't know what the heck you just said...

@cougsjohnson1 5 ай бұрын

How's Washington State doing in Basketball 🏀 right now ??

@TheFishingNomad 5 ай бұрын

Wrong sport. Basketball doesn't matter at all in this conversation.

@CarlaJenkinsTV 5 ай бұрын

I think that Notre Dame goes to the ACC because all of its other sports are in the ACC. I have FSU going to the Big 12 because both UCF and FSU are in the state university system of Florida. No way Florida state tax payers are letting FSU get on a plane to Chicago and have all of that travel and tourism money leave the state when they can stay in Orlando and play UCF.

@michaelsell6328 5 ай бұрын

There is zero chance fsu goes to the big 12. They end up in one of the big 2.

@gregwillis1651 5 ай бұрын

ND and/or FSU are not going anywhere but the BIG and/or SEC

@artax84z 5 ай бұрын

@@michaelsell6328 That is what they want but what if neither of those conference want them do they stay in the ACC, go Independent or go to the Big 12

@malcolmjones27 5 ай бұрын

Thank You! Been saying this for a minute but these FSU nuthuggers want them in the Bug 10 or SEC for obvious reasons. Not going to happen.

@alejandrogamarra8057 5 ай бұрын

This guy needs to take his Utah goggles off and wake up to the real world. Utah is…. Ok! They won two pac 12 championships in years where the pac12 sucked and they still had 2-3 loses. They are never in the hunt for the playoffs even when they won the pac12. 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔. Yea Utah is some power house hahaha

@brentw0681 Ай бұрын

Are you a salty USC or BYU fan? 😂😂😂😂 Utah has the best pedigree of any Big 12 program in the last 10 years. They're a very good program. Cope

@alejandrogamarra8057 Ай бұрын

@@brentw0681 hahaha I don't have a dog in the fight. I am an SEC undergrad and Big10 post grad. Just calling it how most of the country views it outside of the state of Utah. Look, I am not talking crap on Utah. I have no problem with them. I do have a problem with the pedestal all the Utah fans put themselves on. Good programs don't brag about being a 4 loss conference champion when they played in the worst conference the two years they won it.

@stortsy8873 5 ай бұрын

No way big 12 gets Clemson or Miami

@TheFranchiseCA 5 ай бұрын

Why not? The only schools that definitely get B1G/SEC spots are FSU, ND, and UNC. Everyone else is at risk to be left out.

@kixxva 5 ай бұрын

One day there will be Big 12 + ACC merger.. but it will be the ACC leftovers after BIG and SEC get first dips

@DKOBSpeaks 5 ай бұрын

No. The Big 12 will not take everyone from the ACC, only 2-4 SEC will take 2-4. B1G 2-4. There will be ACC schools without a conference to jump to.

@CarlaJenkinsTV 5 ай бұрын

0:46 That was trolling. If FSU had the money, they would have paid it. The FSU Board of Trustees know that they don't have the $572 million that they've quoted to leave. And as someone who lives in the Big 10, stop believing these KZfaq channels about FSU like Renegade Report.

@michaelsell6328 5 ай бұрын

Nice work sounding like a fool. Fsu will NEVER have to pay 500mill to leave. Itll be agreed about 150 to 200. Fsu will be out by 2025, and you can book it. And probably in the big ten shortly after.

@malcolmjones27 5 ай бұрын

You sound like a fool with your rhetoric. There is no way that FSWho is getting out of the GOR for anything south of $300million if they do get out it won’t be before 2025 and that you can book.

@nolessgifted6333 5 ай бұрын

Why Im I watching this garbage. No one wants to go into the Big 12

@Alex-pe9bd 5 ай бұрын

Have fun playing in the upper Midwest in late October and November. Global warming won't save you just ask Oklahoma when we kicked their ass in Lawrence and it was a fine send off to the SEC

@GeeDee103 5 ай бұрын

The little 12 needed the PAC 12 to keep a power 5 now it’s a power 2 because of the PAC 12 demise the little 12 think they made some good moves the best move was keeping a POWER 5 to prevent a POWER 2 I can careless my team went from the PAC to the POWER 2 but I think shit would have been better with a POWER 5 instead of a POWER 2…

@Alex-pe9bd 5 ай бұрын

The little 12 is so bad that SEC and B1G has offered loot to 5 of the original Big 12 members and a 6th member back 10 years ago to PAC 12.

@GeeDee103 5 ай бұрын

The little 12 is fucked there is nothing they can do to stay relevant…

@DKOBSpeaks 5 ай бұрын

Aren't you the same random guy who was saying the BIG 12 wasn't going to help break up the PAC 12? How many times do you have to be wrong?

@GeeDee103 5 ай бұрын

@@DKOBSpeaks UCLA and USC broke up the PAC 12 and they are in the B1G WTF are you talking about ???…

@GeeDee103 5 ай бұрын

@@DKOBSpeaks You have a league full of former G 5 schools did all that just to get left out of the power 2 and get treated like a step child obviously you didn’t make any moves that was worth anything you are a outcast in college sports right now if you are ok with being last in the pecking order then more power to you my team in the power 2 we have a voice at the table you don’t…

@GeeDee103 5 ай бұрын

@@DKOBSpeaks You are happy just to exist at the bottom which is pathetic 4 and 5 stars don’t even want to come to your conference no more they know it’s a step back from the power 2 most of the 4 and 5 stars in Football this year signed with the B1G and the SEC you are a NOBODY you just happy to be around at a discount…

@DKOBSpeaks 5 ай бұрын

@@GeeDee103 Lol, it could have stayed together without them.

@tampabong5055 5 ай бұрын

Big 10 takes UNC NC STATE Miami and VaTech SEC will take UVA And FSU BIG 12 then takes Louisville Clemson PITT and SMU

@kineticstar 5 ай бұрын

SMU? No one wants them. If the B12 wanted them, they had multiple chances and passed them by every time.

@malcolmjones27 5 ай бұрын

I’ll agree with you on everything except on FSU. There is no way in hell the SEC takes FSU. It’s either the Big 10 or the Big 12 or independent. FSU, with all of their BS lately would be too proud to accept an invitation to the Big 12 as they would deem that a lesser conference.