That's awesome. Thank you for sharing that.

Outstanding! I’m going to try these Valkyrie Broadheads on little itty bitty White Tail Deer 🦌! 😂

Wow ! That’s outstanding shooting on a LONG SHOT outstanding hunting as Moose 🫎 are not exactly common and Valkyrie Archery 🏹 tackle is rather high quality! 😂 ❤

In wyoming we would say you suck at hunting.

Thank you! I really appreciate the encouragement!

Yeah, that steel is no joke.

Good to know. Thanks for sharing that.

Got a passthrough on a doe 40 yards quartering away through the shoulder on the backside. She dropped right there.

Yeah, that would be good. Unfortunately, I don't have any more to test.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Not yet. I’m gonna order some for hunting and send you a few.

The Klutzy Outdoorsman Great. Thank you!

Thank you

Thank you for sharing that Nick! I'm eager to hear how they perform for you. They sure should penetrate well and cut cleanly.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures i will definitely let you know how they preform for me wile im hunting whitetail here in Montgomery county Illinois this coming season.

@@nickvogel7939 how did the valkyrie heads do for u this year??

Thank you my friend.

Thank you Noah. I really appreciate it, brother.

Very good. I preferred the short jag as well...but both were excellent. Good luck!

You're very welcome. I really do hope to help fellow bowhunters have more information to be able to select the best heads for their personal set ups and hunting purposes.

Very good.

Yeah, they penetrate very well. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Thanks Dozier. I appreciate the comment :) Some people won't believe it unless they see it :)

Ya know, I never realized they made such a wide cutting head. I'd love to test that bad boy out. Thank you for the heads up.

Lusk Archery Adventures no worries. I purchased a few a while back and couldn’t get them tuned, I’m pretty sure it was due to my local shop at the time. They weren’t the best at tuning anything. They make a solid 200 grain version that’s not as wide. The original “vented” 190 grain is wicked looking and does a tremendous amount of damsge

Great to hear that. Thank you.

Yeah, if I had more, I'd do that.

Yeah, I hear you on that; it is a very finely tuned system. Not surprised it was no longer sharp after passing through a bull elk and burying in the dirt :)

Thank you.

Yep; I shot them many years ago. But this S7 tool steel is really impressive. I really appreciate you watching and commenting. Hope you can check out some of my other vids as well :)

In slower bows, the longer head helps with penetration. But out of a compound bow, at least, the longer heads penetrate less effectively at least in the mediums I use. There is extra friction over that longer length and also they are less forgiving in flight. I prefer shorter at compound bow speeds.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures thank you sir

Yeah, you're right Big Mike. Total cut size in another issue, but penetration and durability are top top tier.

Lusk Archery Adventures Yeah you could just look at it and tell she was got penetrate well. Glad they used good steel which i figured they would. Not a head for me though Atleast not yet anyways

I would if I had more heads. Unfortunately, I no longer have those.

Thank you Ace. Much appreciated.

Gregory Mow I like it. I wish these heads could just fit into any sized shaft, but they sure are well made.

@@JohnLuskOutdoors they make the blood eagle for that don't they? I personally like the idea of the increased durability and stiffness the center pin adds

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You're very welcome. Thank you for watching and commenting.

Thank you! I really appreciate you watching and commenting. Hope you can check out some of my other vids as well :)

I'd like to, but I don't have any more of those heads.

Man, lots of good ones. It depends on what I'm hunting. Bishop makes the most durable for sure. The Iron Will Wide Solid is really nice--one of my faves, and also the Iron Will Single Bevel with bleeders. But there are a lot of great options besides those.

I just posted that vid last night :)

Yeah, I saw that, thanks, it's a great video

Ya know, it's really funny what happens in gel sometimes. As much as it is designed to imitate human flesh, it does so more accurately with bullet impact than arrow penetration. That being said, Magnus are true cut on contact heads and are known for their excellent penetration. This set up was a different arrow, but the total weight was the same. I was careful to make sure of that.

I didn't have to tune them to fly at all. I was shooting a new arrow for this test and had to make sure that arrow was tuned, but I always just screw on a head and shoot it, with no tuning. Arrow length is 25.5", 27"; draw at 72 lbs.

Thanks for watching and commenting. I really appreciate it, and agree about the S7.

I knew the durability would be the same, and the penetration was very similar. Actually the Jagger penetrated 1/2" less, I think due to the gel contacting more surface area.

Lusk Archery Adventures I would have liked to see the jager vs steel plate just for the fact that the tip was much more needle like. But still liked the video 👍

Yeah, they have some great stuff.

I don't have any at this point, but if someone sends me some, I'll gladly test them. Thanks for the suggestion.

Yeah, cause they really are exactly the same in the steel, edge, etc.

On their site they only mention high carbon steel, but the owner/designer assured me the Jagger/Short Jags are S7.

Some models centerpin is titanium. But all heads are tool steel

Indeed. Thanks for watching and commenting.

Well, they have very different dimensions. But both penetrate very well and are very durable.

Yeah, they look nice. I used to shoot them when I was a kid with a trad bow.

Indeed.

Thank you, brother. Much appreciated.

Some of their heads are S7 and some are not; it depends on the model. I've not tested Day Six, but I'm not a huge fan of using s30v in a broadhead application due to it's tendency to experience edge chatter; it's know for having that same problem in survival knives. It's an incredible steel for cutting, but just chips too easily. Solid Legends have that same steel and I've seen it happen many times.

Lusk Archery Adventures I agree with you. Thats why I wanted to see them tested. The owner brags a ton about it though and they seem very confident. I’m also not a fan of non solids but he also says it’s makes them stronger. Idk how though.

I'm not sure; Brent just sent me those shafts.

Thanks for the suggestion. I love testing anything I can. I typically need at least 2 new heads, preferably 3 to do the tests.

I need to test those using these present tests I'm using. Those things are amazing.

I don't have a discount code for these. Sorry.

With a good shot, both would do very well. For Whitetail, I like to use as big of a head as I can get, and still get a pass thru. I think the Iron Will Wide is tough to beat for that. But these will probably zip right thru a shoulder.

IMO Iron Will are second to none (excluding Bishop) $$ 🙈 but the Valkyrie are to be desired. Alot of people been waiting for John to stress test today's broadheads & a job well done. Now we can all exhale 😁

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thank you very much for reply! love the videos and reviews

@@davideustache4119 Thanks for input David! I plan to order some asap! Best of luck this year.

I just started doing the Concrete test again in 2021. I used to do it a few years ago, but didn't do it in my testing in 2020.

Yeah, no doubt.

They are sure not as easy as a straight edge, but with a wheel or a rounded stone or Stay Sharp sharpener, it's not too bad.

Thats why they sell a sharpening kit that they use at the shop to sharpen

I've been strictly a bowhunters for forty years. I cannot advise more strongly against using a mechanical broadhead for elk. Way too high a risk for inadequate penetration. For really tough skinned wildlife like elk there really is nothing better than a traditionally shaped broadhead, either a 2 or 3 blade. That means a 3-1 ratio of length to width. The broadhead tested is a good place to start.

@@bruceyoung8036 thanks for the advice, on to finding the right broad heads.

Hey Brandon. That's a great question. Over the years, I've been more of a fixed blade head guy for elk. Those animals can be extremely tough. If your shots are inside of 60 yds, any decent fixed head should fly well out of a well tuned bow. However, there are now would mechs that are much more durable and penetrate much more effectively than many fixed blade heads...and they are much more forgiving in flight or in windy conditions. The best I've seen is the Sevr 1.5. It's got a smaller cut than most mechs, so it penetrates very well, and the blades can swing side to side to pivot around bone, if needed. And I've shot them thru steel plate 5 times and they held up. I even shot one into a cinder block 3 times and it help up fine. I have zero hesitation in using them for elk. Check out my vids of the Sevr 1.5. That all being said, again, if your shots are under 60, you can't go wrong with a tough fixed blade head.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures hey thank you for the great advice. i will be sure to watch those videos.

I do need to do the Bishops thru my 2020 testing. I'm planning to do that in the upcoming weeks.The weight of this arrow was the same as the weight of my typical set up, even though they were different arrows--460 grs.

Yes, but it will take some finessing to stick to that bevel and not mess it up. Go slowly and lightly and you can do it.

Yeah, I've hunted with those. I've done quite a bit of vids with the Killzone.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures The regular killzone or the killzone maxx?

I would not, unless I were going after something really really big. There are a lot of great fix blade Broadheads. The QAD exodus is certainly one of them. But these Valkyrie heads are extremely well-made.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures tenrogger how bout tooth of arrow vs qad? Do have a preference to one or the other?

Gregory Mow Thank you!

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They are both very durable heads, but a fairly different design, as you can see. I would imagine the Short Jag would out penetrate the Annihilator, most of the time, in an animal. Which would do more damage to tissue? I'm not sure cause I've not hunted with either of them yet.

Yeah, I'd like to do that as well. I just need someone to donate some :)

I can't remember what I did in this vid now, but I thought I did test the penetration of both. But I didn't shoot them both thru steel, cause they're the same in terms of durability.

Well, with a paper wheel it's pretty easy, but with a stone, it would take some finessing.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Hmm... I'm skeptical. Guess a paper wheel is to big and a Dremel should be used. And using a Dremel requires practice and without you can easily ruin them.

I must have left that off; I didn't do the full test on the Jagger. It actually penetrated 1/2" less than the Short Jag, I think due to the gel contacting more surface area.

Lusk Archery Adventures thank you keep up the good work!

Yes, they came with the arrows that Valkyrie sent me.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Are they necessary for broadhead use? Can i use broadheads without them. Sorry for the questions but I am a beginner.

@@jayytee8062 they have their center pin system for micro diameter shafts in the jagger broadheads. The blood eagle broadheads are for standard diameter shafts. Same heads, different threads.

@@ThumbsMcThumb Thanks buddy

Hey that's a good one. You're funny. Clearly the test was designed to display the potential for the head and not a realistic interpretation of what a deer might be wearing.....

I'm just providing data points so we can all choose the best broadheads for our personal set ups and animals we're pursuing. If a head can hold up to a steel plate, then that's a good indicator of its overall durability and edge integrity. Is it necessary? Nope. But if there are two heads you're choosing from and one can hold up to 5 shots and one loses a blade on the first shot, and all other things are equal between the two heads, wouldn't you pick the one that can hold up? We owe it to the animals we're hunting to use the most effective equipment we can afford.

Speed,speed,speed. Here we go again. Uugghh

I didn't shoot these arrows thru a chrono. However, they are the same weight as my normal set up and I am getting 260 fps with a 460 gr arrow

The Jagger penetrated about a half inch less than the Short Jag. Total arrow weight was the same for both.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures I've got the Jagger 200ti waiting for me at home. Glad to see they're performing as well as I've heard

Yeah, concave can get tough. Stay Sharp Guide makes a concave/convex sharpener to make it easier.

Thank you for watching and for the comment. I have updated my protocol a bit in 2021. The goal of my tests is to provide comparative data points, so you can see how heads perform in the exact same tests. Therefore, the mediums must be consistent. I do a lot of hunting and post those vids as well...using a lot of different heads. But animals or animal parts vary significantly in their geometry and density, so using them in testing does not provide any true, comparative data. If you have any suggestions for consistent mediums other than MDF, Rubber Mat, FBI Gel, steel plate and concrete, then I'd love to hear them. These seem to simulate bone, hide, tissue fairly well.

Yeah, they're not for everyone's budget, that's for sure.

That would be "per head." They're not cheap; they are definitely in the Premium Price Category...certainly not for everyone's budget, but as long as you don't lose them, they'll last a lifetime.

It was actually less than the shorter one...that happens with many mediums, as the increased surface area creates more surface friction and impedes penetration.

@@LuskArcheryAdventures thanks for the reply!

Yeah, they're definitely in the Premium Price category.

Thank you!

Don Caruso I’m waiting for them to get sent to me :)

I got them,they are nasty sharp.

Yep...did that a while ago...I'm sure you knew that but I need to reply to these from this channel and not my John L one in order for them to not keep showing up as New Comments :)

Yeah, like I said in the vid, these are designed for maximum penetration and not for huge cut size. Everything is a tradeoff.

Unfollow then you wont be missed, clearly we all like to see his reviews and he spends a lot of time and money spent on broadheads to do these tests for us. Dont try to rob a guy of his passion, you think you can do it better start a channel and do it yourself..... just my opinion.....

I'm not sure what you are talking about, Jason. I did show the testing of the Short Jag. I didn't shoot the Jagger thru the steel cause they're basically the same head made with the same materials, so there's no point of testing it twice. The Jagger penetrated slightly less in the gel than the Short Jag due to the gel contacting more surface area.

Wspatch1987 Thank you 🙏

Jason, don't be rude.