Don't worry lad, I don't even like you or your content but it's clear this is bullshit. Noone believes her lies.

Im sorry you had to be dragged in this nothing burger of side situation. People should be mainly focused on Alices situation, not to the foul mouth of a liar with the evidence of "I made the fuck up". i hope you and Alice are doing okay. Much love to both of you

Hello iNabber. I am glad you cleared your name. I can't even begin to imagine the impact the events last year, finding out an ex friend is abusive, and having your ex compare you to that ex friend has had on you. Take time to yourself. Don't worry about putting out any videos for a while. Focus on you.

Even before you posted a response, it was glaringly obvious (to me at least) what was going on there. Hope you're doing okay 🫂

​@@abikristina1124 "No one believes her lies." I always wonder what gives someone the nerve to speak for everyone.

Especially when he explicitly stated it isn’t about him either

THAT PART! And like he was just speaking on what he knew. She just wanted some of that attention

Yes. Yes. Yes.

exactly. i don't think iNabber even wanted to make a statement, it's just that he doesn't want people to think that he's just ignoring everything. and another thing, of course, it's also about iNabber. he was friends with the guy. the people around the abuser is also affected when they find out that the person they thought they knew is just masking some very dark behaviors.

@@perlyshell he should has just called the behavior inexcusable and abusive and rebuked the behavior, instead we got a sob story of how HE felt?? Like what???

also, it's weird to think that someone should "come forward" about abuse before the victim of the abuse comes forward. like, why shouldn't that be up to Alice, the person who's already traumatized and may not *want* the whole world to know, you know? so weird.

hanna! hi. i draw to your videos. love the content

Plus if he had come forwards it might've made Alice feel pressure to come out publicly with it. It (for the most part) wasn't Fraser's story to tell. I had my abuse outed before I was ready and that trauma is something I'm still dealing with 6 years later

Not to mention coming out with this information (if he realized what was happening) could have been dangerous if Alice didn’t have the proof

Didn’t expect to see you here Hannah. Regardless though definitely agree. People and friends fall out all the time, and just because they’re “influencers” doesn’t mean they have to make everything in their life public knowledge

i think it's a really disgusting thing for her to take the situation between Alice and Alex and try to... idk get attention or clout from it by making these accusations against iNabber, which have been, at this point, shown to be false or taken out of context. What happened between Alice and Alex is heinous and very, very serious. Trying to turn the situation to herself and iNabber is just gross.

and then BLOCKS PEOPLE when they speak out against her smfh

She has also blocked people who asked questions. Not even hating. Just regular questions ​@@erikdaniels0n

@@erikdaniels0n literally. Like you lied. And then when you get called out you block people? Nah. That’s not how that works

i think they are both hiding things whether it be for trauma reasons or to deliberately to make the other side look more problematic- i don’t know- potentially both?? but they both seem to be doing this and leaving out information that holds weight on these alleged arguments, and both of their sides together make a fuller picture of what actually went down than one on their own, and what I think really it boiled down to the fact that it was just not a great relationship both ways, and that happens that’s life. I just think there were clear errors on both ends and don’t really have a side. Inabber messed up in the alleged shouting and making her feel like her depression is not valid, invalidating her feelings at times and she messed up in either pressuring him to do stuff he didn’t want to or letting the dog in the bedroom to potentially injure you, there were plenty of times where he didn’t respond and let her out and that’s also a problem on his end but letting the dog in for instagram stories… not the best move.

Exactly this. Like, I’ve been in several abusive relationships but they had everyone wrapped around their finger and it was only towards the end of the relationship(s) that others around started to notice that something was wrong

Abusers are so good at hiding it that at times we (the abused) cant see it until someone else points it out. I have lived a very abuse filled life so when I got into an abusive relationship I didnt even realize it. It took 5 years to see it and almost a year to get out of it.

This comment. Been trying to illustrate the same point.

Yeah I can't fully come forth with the full truth about my mother because she places herself as a kind, plain unassuming woman. Behind closed doors she was a beast. Especially when it was just the two of us in a room. My brother is the golden child and I had to run away as a teen. He's finally old enough to hear about things and he completely rejected what I said and couldn't believe that our mother could be like that. I was so careful to protect him and shield him and on one hand I'm so happy he won't live with the trauma of seeing what happened to me but his absolute rejection of what I said cut deep.

💯% this. My abuser was so good at putting up the facade that we were all good, that I just completely stopped trying to tell people what he was really like, becuse they wouldn't believe me. Like, it took YEARS for me to finally tell my sister that he tried to push me down the stairs once, because he had convinced me that nobody would ever believe me, ever.

“I hate the way Fraser was making this about himself” she says as she goes on to make the whole situation about herself

I'd understand if she wanted to warn people about an abuser but just wasn't comfortable specifying what he did but that reasoning doesn't make sense here because her own words make it sound like he never abused anyone. That's the suspicious thing about it to me. That I can't see what her motive would be for doing things that way if her intentions were good or even just misguided.

She also limited comments which is such a bad look.

Yeah she is red flag city 🚩🚩🚩. INabber may not be an angel but she made someone else's situation about herself and made very very serious allegations with absolutely zero evidence of ANY kind. Not to mention her trying to pressure him into sex and making his grief about his dad's passing about herself too. She sounds like a nightmare

Lmao I'll bet she is... she came off unhinged like she wanted to make Alice's experiences with Alex about HER thing. People have seen through it though lol

Seriously toxicity and ABUSE are different!!!!

She sounds like Caitibugz!!

*extremely loud coughing about ready to glare*

Doesn't he call out people in his videos? Does he know them? I think that is kinda weird, but many channels do it on the KZfaq

​@@seriouslyoverit2971 There's multiple reasons why he'd make a video on someone calling them out (like other respectable drama channels): 1. If it's a 2 sided story, both sides are out and looked at (main point of the comment) 2. The person has showed repeatable disgusting behavior for the internet to see 3. Certain allegations if true can be dangerous to audiences and it's better to get the info out to everyone And more I don't feel like listing out. Yeah he's going to call people out, he's a drama channel, just like this one.

I mean from what I've seen he typically waits until there's enough information to make an informed video about it, and if it turns out he misrepresents anything, he will correct himself in a later video ​@@seriouslyoverit2971

All about them clicks! Gotta get on the bandwagon asap. You think they’d had learned by now especially since this has came off the back of speaking about Allexx one of the biggest perpetrators when it comes to spreading false allegations

Valid

First 24 hours people were ripping inabber apart , yes believe the victim keep your thoughts to yourself until you see evidence. I believe the victim doesn’t mean create another victim by blaming them with false allegations…. Also I am victim would much rather people take time to see my proof and believe then just believe cause of guilt

​@LadyInTheTree and adhd shows the evidemce if u acuse it of things nabs has adhd first thing hes done is show the evidence normal behaviour of somone with adhd who is inocent and people are intitled to speek there opinions i have cptsd from abuse age 4 to 34 kirst is focusing atention on her its not about her rn

She gives me those Amber Heard vibes

@@hoptoit5910 💯

It’s a lack of emotional intelligence and maturity

@@MyDestinyDear very much so

THIS is what her accounts AND his all read like to me, when you pull from both and look at it objectively... Looks like a really toxic relationship on both ends that she went overboard on towards the end and now after the fact. She seems more to have CONVINCED herself of ab*se than to have actually been ab*sed... and while a sh1t relationship can definitely be traumatic to the people involved that does NOT mean it was ab*sive. Just unhealthy. I mean I wouldn't even call her harassment of him ab*se, so to my mind their relationship should never have been tied to Alice's story at all. Very different situations and Kirsty linking them as she has shows a very real disconnect in her thinking that, I agree, does seem to suggest a certain lack of understanding about what actually constitutes ab*se (meaning that it is NOT just having a bad time with someone mutually).

@bakaichigo right, and the part about her being perplexed over the lack of break up sex adds into it. Like, day-of or day after breakup sex is one thing, but if its been a week + and youre still looking for it, that screams unhealthy. You're not making a clean break and are just asking for it to get drawn out and messy.

Not saying they're mentally ill but that's a super common thing for BPD and/or Bi Polar to do

That's really what makes me not really believe her. She's vague af and turned the whole thing into something about her... I was genuinely horrified and (as much as the term gets overused a bit, it's accurate here) triggered by listening to those audio recordings Alice brought forward. I've dealt with abuse like that and it's horrifying to listen to something so similar. The fact that this girl could listen to THAT and think "oh, hey, time to say some really serious sh!t about my ex!" is just gross.

@khaleesireyna731 EXACTLY it's very odd, and for her to be like, "oh I care about victims, Alice is so brave" and to then go and do all this? There is no way she genuinely cares and thats sad.

bingo

And puts her at risk when she hasn't consented to it. Even if we assume everyone knew without alice there is no right for anyone else to tell anyone

Agreed. Outing someone elses abuser without the permission of the victim / before the victim themself has come forward could put them in a really bad spot.

facts, it would also have put her in far more danger which people tend to forget.

ppl making choices based on whos a man and women (especially in this particular case) really sucks. I have the same take as you. usually an abusive manipulative person is that way towards many ppl (illunaughtii Blair for example)

@@hannahs765usually it’s towards or in front of their closest people

As far as I'm aware, he has ADHD, and mentioning personal issues similar to one's situation is literally how we express that we genuinely feel for them, seen how we've gone through something similar ourselves. If we haven't, we go with just showing support. So I 100% get him talking about Alex being an arse to him, therefore supporting her story.

This is true also, I've had a few friends like this who were emotionally manipulative 😢❤

Given her former friend dropped a Twitter thread on her only to take it down after getting attacked

it's a really disgusting thing of Krist to take that situation and make it about herself, especially when the evidence she provided is false or out of context. She's taking the attention away from the true victim here, and for what? clout? because now, not only does nobody (or mostly nobody) believe her, but she's also crapping on real and serious allegations.

I love how everybody's standards for debunking allegations are just to listen to the accused.

I love how everybody's standards for debunking allegations are just to listen to the accused.

@@QwertyuwuuiopI went to the page I don’t see anything about it

THIS. 100%.

apparently his grandfather also just passed, so please send him some support and love rn

Maybe stop being so parasocial to people you don't even fucking know?

@@Return_To_Sendermaybe just let people enjoy commentators and stop being so judgmental?

@@Return_To_SenderYou’re conflating two things here; following a KZfaq creator and having an unhealthy parasocial relationship with them.

@@Return_To_Sender I can relate to people without "feeling like I know them", if that's what you're saying about me being parasocial?

I think it was probably a shit situation all round and shes genuinely convinced herself its abuse because shes traumatised (which is valid, I would be too after the dog attack stuff alone), but doesnt fully understand what abuse *is*

@@jadesx96I get it. I gaslit myself for the longest time that I wasn’t abused and that I just had BPD and that it was all my fault

@@MyDestinyDear I am sorry that happened to you but I don't see what relevance it has to my comment. The popularity of true crime content means people use these phrases as buzzwords in contexts that don't apply, which dilutes their meaning. As a disabled person with cPTSD from a lifetime of navigating being treated poorly I can still recognise not all of those situations were abuse. Trauma can happen without abuse taking place. The two things don't mutually entail one another.

@@MyDestinyDear? What does that have to do w this?

@@knisa6350it’s very easy and pretty common for the mind to make up situations/fill in details to give you a sense of comfort or understanding about something that happened. I believe the person was trying to say it can go either way, you can obviously gaslight yourself into believing it’s not abuse(that happens A LOT) and blame yourself for it, or you can convince yourself that it WAS abuse because you just can’t let go of the situation that happened and need some form of “explanation” I don’t want to say it’s common but it happened to me to a certain extent after a relationship ended, while i didn’t accuse anyone of abuse I did convince myself anything that had happened was NOT my fault at all, when in reality(and i have since realized this) it was just a failed relationship that wouldn’t work in the long run and nobody was actually in the wrong at all

YES! Thank you.

This is so true. Even if I told my whole story with proof no one believed me.... and she has the gall to say uuuh im not gonna explain but you have to believe me

Britapocalips

There will be beans and toast everywhere

Nah man, that was when Edplant, Alex Day, and Tom whatshisface were all outed as predatory. This is the reboot show.

also happening in german youtube too to some degree :D

@@JayneAFKyou’re such a real one for knowing this shit, literally they’ve fallen into such extreme obscurity but i will never forget

That was a huge red flag for me as well. I only talk about my own abuse experiences because they are YEARS behind me and I've had my time to heal and I've had my time to piece it together and say what needs to be said, when it needs to be said. The fact that she's like "oh, his behavior made me want to unalive myself back in 2023, but I don't want to talk about it publicly" (girl, your posting about it to Twitter), is very shady.

Love this answer lmao

I would be on Fraser’s side, if he wasn’t completely full of shit. Also supporting victims instead of the accused is just in my dna, like any normal thinking feeling person.

Supporting victims is fine until they have no backing and evidence disproving their claims. Being a victim of DV and SA myself, supporting people who have been caught lying harms those of us who have actually suffered. ​@@fangirlonfire

@@fangirlonfire I like to actually know that the "victim" is telling the truth first and not acting dishonestly. Because people lie all the time, look at the Depp v Heard situation, that woman was lying through some of the worst acting I've ever seen happen live... It happens all the time and its awful because it causes more problems for people legitimately speaking the truth about what happened to them. I'm firmly on camp "let me see the evidence and then I'll decide" -- The only exceptions are if I KNOW the person and know them well enough to know they wouldn't _ever_ lie about such a tthing. Otherwise... I mean its a really common tactic for an ab*ser to turn things around on their victim, to make them look like the ab*ser, especially when its a woman aggressing against a man. In this case, what's been put out there shows a relationship that was clearly not healthy and a very pushy woman who is an unreliable narrator at BEST. The fact that she's taken a whole other victim's situation, from a whole other unrelated thing, and used it to piggy-back her OWN sh1t onto as a means of attacking her ex, is extra sussy for me. She's not reading as genuine and her evidence doesn't add up. His does and it shows her having a pattern that's very much in line with the seggsual harrasment she put him through... You don't seggsually harass your ab*ser, just listen to Alice's accounts of fear. Most people who are ab*sed go out of their way NOT to antagonize or chase the person whodunnit to them. I would erase the "thinking" part of your comment, because what you said DIRECTLY expresses that you DON'T think about it (you said it's 'in your DNA', meaning its genetics, not determined by thought)... You've essentially just said *_"supporting victims instead of the accused is an automatic given based on my feelings/guts."_* and then followed it with implying that thinking people think first with feelings... which is just not true. AS a person who prefers to THINK first and ACT or make decisions AFTER considering the information, I wanted you to know that statement makes no sense. Gut reactions are, by default, NOT a thinking-based response. It's a feeling based one and feelings are rarely rational.

@@fangirlonfirebut _she’s_ proved in the past she _is_ the one full of shit. All talk and nothing to back up her lies. Yes, I believe she and Fraser probably did have their bad times. Maybe terrible times. A lot of relationships unfortunately do but she’s making herself out to be some victim (and funny how she did this right after Alice told her story. She’s an attention seeker)

​@fangirlonfire and what exactly makes iNabber full of sh!t in this situation? Providing evidence (like screenshots and timestamps) kinda makes you the opposite of that. Please elaborate.

Beautiful

I got 1 measley search result last night when I looked. That video was fine, I guess. It got the point across.

@@hey_thatsmyname what I like about vangelina is that she sums it up very well, when she made her Alex video I had already watched some of it from other channels and hers was the best structured

it does make him a horrible person because why would you willingly be silent about knowing about abuse? silence is picking a side and enabling.

​@pinguufuuuu I don't think he knew about the abuse. He was friends with a crappy person that turned out to be way worse than he realized

​@@pinguufuuuuthe person said "did he know Alex was a trash person". Not "did he know Alex was abusive". You can be an asshole and still not be abusing your SO.

@@pinguufuuuu my interpretation of it all is that fraser knew alex was a bad person, because he was bad to him, but he didn't know how bad he was being to his girlfriend. being a jerk doesn't mean you're an abuser, but all abusers are jerks. i think he should have checked in on her just to make sure, but i can also understand he wasn't really friends with her and might have been trying to mind his business... sometimes people just have messy relationships but its not abuse. :( hindsight is 20/20

@@pinguufuuuu He said that he didn’t know and even Kirst corrected her statement and said that iNabber did not know about the abuse that was happening.

I genuinely believe they had a toxic relationship and that that made her unwell (i can sympathise on that front because ive experienced similar in my last), but to conflate that with full on intentional emotional and physical abuse with gaslighting, negging, stonewalling etc makes me soooo uncomfortable. They are very different things.

I agree, but there was a though I had about being asked to keep quiet while he films then remembered that his latest video is over 4hrs.

​@@dorianleakey he also often says in videos that it's another day or that he had to take a break, I don't think a lot of his videos are filmed in 4 straight hours. And I get being annoyed about having to be quiet, but as far as I understand the timeline, INabber was already a KZfaqr when they got together, so it'd kind of be expected?

@@dorianleakey Since they moved, he's had his own office outside of the home.

There’s one thing here that I would call abuse. And it’s what she’s doing now trying to ruin him and slander him over a petty breakup

Pffffff

@VangelinaSkov I am so glad to see you able to laugh about that other situation now. God damn that must have been stressful.

@@MissCaraMint it still is, I lost a lot of opportunities and sources of income but it’s still a little funny at least

Especially when at first she said she didn't want to go into detail because she is trying to heal. Wtf? If you're trying to heal, don't say anything at all. Ignore your ex.

This paragraph has made me grateful that my dating life was pretty non-existent in my 20s. I wasn't in a good headspace for a relationship in my early 20s. My mid-20s I was working abroad, so not really dating there either, and my late 20s had me dealing with more than enough family drama and it's not something a potential partner needs to be thrown into the mix with. I'm 30 now and just starting to explore that and I'm cool with that. It's pretty tricky to date long-term in your 20s (not impossible, of course). You do a lot of growing up in that time and there's no guarantee that you and your partner will be compatible at the end of all of that.

@@khaleesireyna731 only things i learned from dating in my 20s is that i dont like dating and am a demisexual. but i do think its important if youre ready to learn to date then. at least for the experience but i can agree its equally as important to figure out who you are and if you wanna do that first then by all means

@@phaedrapage4217 i deleted my reply bc i was on a caffeine high mixed with my prescribed antidepressants and still not fully read everything. im gonna just leave my initial response instead

Fraser has had Kenji since before they started dating.

Yes cuz it's the person that made up false claims you should worry about and not inabber

@@FlareGodDammit she is obviously sick if she made these claims. Of course she needs to be worried about because it does get people harmed. Am I worried about iNabber? Yes but I think he’s proved himself. I’m not worried about him professionally. He will have trust issues. That obviously sucks. I can worry about someone’s mental state that causes her to do irrational things. If I ever lose that, I lose all sorts of empathy for people.

Strong Amber Heard vibes….

@@annabasnaturalI’ve been saying this 😂

Love that

NOOO WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT!!!

Lithops!

I came here to say the same thing! I love lithops!! ​@@1991LMR

No aliens come in peace. First contact never changes.

He also just seems very trusting and ends up trusting and believing the wrong kind of people

​@jemmagordon4439 exactly. He gives me golden retriever vibes

I think you're right.

He's awkward and has some social anxiety, but I don't think he's a villain.

Attacked ​@@jemmagordon4439

I was pretty horrified by RTG's take. Inabber should be able to refute allegations. The allegations his ex made without evidence are worse than the proof he showed to defend himself, and her pressuring him for sex is absolutely wrong.

👁👄👁 duuudee, I didn't think of that

I used to watch Alex, but it was in collaborations with other guys I liked (James Marriott). Back then he seemed okay, but when he kept insisting that Slazo was a sexual abuser even after receiving evidence of the contrary, that's when I checked out. He clearly isn't in it for justice or holding people accountable, he's in it for clout.

Same!

👀👀👀 I must have missed something

Who'd did she sleep with. Spill the tea sis

@@JNB520 Kristen Doute slept with Jax Taylor who at the time was Stassi's bf. She denied it up and down to her face, and then finally she was cornered and had to admit it. I believe it was in season 2 of Vanderpump Rules.

@@kertchella no I meant who did kirst sleep with lol. It says she's likes to sleep with the bfs best friends.

Watch at around 16:30 onward. I just made an observation comment based on the (ex)friend saying she slept with her ex while they were together.

Me too!

It wasn't just me hearing it?! Thank goodness, I thought I was going crazy. I have sensory issues so Maybe I was hearing something really far away in my house but every time I paused the video to hear the sound it would go away.

He’s posted google documents links on his instagram story.

he posted a doc link in an expirable instagram story and in an unpinned comment on his latest video that would need to be sifted for to find. i would think someone who's actually interested in clearing their name would have more upfront evidence that they're innocent instead of weirdly hiding the evidence in not so obvious places.

@@batty-bites3185 i'm pretty sure it was in a community post here. that's where I read at least his first doc

​@@batty-bites3185 both are in community docs

If you go to the community tab on his KZfaq page, there is a link to the 80 +pages of his side of the story.

lol inabber was not the most popular person in the group ge was a doormat lmao

@@summerm4911 ya I’m not talking about iNabber. Idk anything about the group so I have no idea who was well liked or not. I’m just making the point that it’s highly probable that iNabber didn’t in fact know about ImAlexx because abusers are really good at hiding it.

​@@summerm4911Agreed, the dude is a door mat and gave his ex a place to live even after the breakup and her wanting to put HIS dog down even though SHE was the issue.

Lmao I love how specific you got.

​@@oneofmanykatsEspecially if not eating slightly burnt french toast at the time 😂