Tbh her family should be prosecuted for putting somebody under 18 on tv x times a week. And…. Im probably hiding from the heat all weekend.
@mightymeatymech2 ай бұрын
yep. AND for pushing her into a relationship with a grown man when she was a teenager... i honestly don't know how much of a chance she ever had growing up in that family.
@als57902 ай бұрын
Valid but also she’s an adult now and there’s ppl out there crying over real things, not that we can compare with world problems or that downgrades issues ppl experience. But you know maybe a person also getting called ugly out there but they dont have hundreds of millions of dollars as a result of the same thing lol
@mightymeatymech2 ай бұрын
@@als5790 this is true, but try to think about it from her perspective... poor people are literally just characters she sees on tv. she's always been wealthy. she's like a fish who cannot imagine what it's like to breathe air, you know? not saying you need to cry with her or anything lol, but like.. did she ever have a chance to begin with? yes she's an adult now, but idk man, it's complicated. you're completely right though, while it doesn't mean her pain is invalid, people are crying over much much more in this world lol. i just think it's interesting to think about how different she must be from someone like me who grew up in essentially a different world than her. edit- like i don't even think being poor is a real fear for her lol. i don't think she could ever comprehend struggling between buying toilet paper or groceries. it would break her brain to be put in the situation that most americans live in on a daily basis. i feel sorry for her, ultimately
@als57902 ай бұрын
@@mightymeatymech yeah i mean you’re totally right because I can’t imagine what it would be like to live somewhere where there is a war going on and ten mins ago felt close to a breakdown because I’m addicted to caffeine and ran out of coffee. So I agree, I think I also just have trust issues with them, like is this a publicity stunt and this was the closest thing to a struggle you could think of for sympathy and a bit of air time on the rapid path to being irrelevant. In summary, don’t put your kids on tv and make them wealthy or they will have zero resilience in life lol
@als57902 ай бұрын
@@mightymeatymech also the relationship thing was totally gross and that is probably somewhat unique and she’s probably due a mental breakdown in her actual 30s when she reflects on what her mum did, I don’t care if she was asked about going on a show when she’s like 12, it’s a bit different to being an actor, children can’t really consent to giving up their privacy for life, I feel the same about those mums who use their kids as props on instagram, like this is gross in a new age type way At the same time I still yeah I won’t be crying with her lol
@sauceissilly2 ай бұрын
Body dysmorphia with that much money is a nightmare combo lmao
@orbweaver97502 ай бұрын
I blame Kris. She's the one that insists on all the girls in the family have a media/social media presence before many of them are even old enough to understand what the internet is. The Kardashians protect their boys and keep them out of the public eye until they are adults, but they don't do the same for their girls.
@KellenRaeHeller2 ай бұрын
Yup. It's cuz Kris knows the girls are more profitable as product
@apathybronson2 ай бұрын
@@KellenRaeHeller she also clearly sees men are more worthy of privacy and happiness. There's a reason why Rob could extricate himself from his toxic relationship so much quicker than Kim or Khloe could from hers.
@peytonfeeney13892 ай бұрын
She made over a billion dollars selling that beauty standard to people who didn’t have the resources to attain it, denied having had cosmetic procedures for like a decade, and now she’s capitalizing further by flipping the narrative and crying about it for the cameras. she can go wipe her tears with $100 bills and privatize her personal life if it really bothers her so much.
@venuslove-i1v2 ай бұрын
I still think it doesn't help to call someone ugly and expect them not to sell the beauty that thought helped them get passed the scrutiny. You can't in one breath blame a person for uplifting beauty while calling them ugly ever since they were children. Its contradictory.
@Spicypoptart12 ай бұрын
Amen. Shes rich af, put down the internet and live your life girl, stfu
@JokerLokison2 ай бұрын
That seems a pretty valid point. I didn't look at it from that perspective. Didn't she BS about her total profits, too?
@PriyaPans2 ай бұрын
@@venuslove-i1vOR She could've gotten therapy, not gotten surgery. Or even if she did - been open and honest about it and the bullying from the start, or just not gone in front of the cameras.
@peytonfeeney13892 ай бұрын
@@JokerLokison I believe so, not to mention the ridiculous markups on her low-quality products. She makes money off of people buying her stuff for reviews due to the negative reputation of her product (thinking of the lip kits and swimwear line) she’s selling Temu quality for Chanel prices.
@AmethystEyes2 ай бұрын
It amazes me that she was able to sell lipsticks that were supposed to make you look like you’re injected, by claiming that was her natural look. But yet all of this is based on the fact that she got lip fillers. She created a brand upon a lie.
@dushitelgriffinus2 ай бұрын
Ky-Lieee ✊🏻✊🏻✊🏻
@donnaclinton9912 ай бұрын
She should blame her mom. This is a ratings ploy.
@AWindy942 ай бұрын
I don't like her, and I don't feel sympathy for her, but I do pity her.
@clorby222 ай бұрын
Perfectly summed up how I feel
@fancydeer2 ай бұрын
she was brainwashed by her mother. she's another child victim of the entertainment industry.
@TaylorLeeKnow2 ай бұрын
Yes this
@lethaldream502 ай бұрын
exactly. she is who she is but she never stood a chance. she had no choice in being born into the family and situation that she was.
@elioistired2 ай бұрын
exactly this, yeah
@blushface2 ай бұрын
Being called ugly will always be hard for anyone, esp females who have been scrutinized since their pre-teens. 5:32 touches on my thoughts exactly.
@katiekatie45542 ай бұрын
Saying 35 is "old" is a bold clam!
@fancydeer2 ай бұрын
while I agree, I think the point that was trying to be made was she's aged herself a decade already. How much farther is it going to go? Is she going to have the full Madonna in the next five years?
@lloroshastar63472 ай бұрын
I've never eaten a bald clam
@honeymilknoel28322 ай бұрын
35 Is considered nearly middle aged in America now I'm sure all that unnecessary plastic,filler,botox, and weight loss meds aren't doing her any favors
@FabiolaMacabre2 ай бұрын
@@honeymilknoel2832to who? 20 year olds? 😂😅 they’re the only ppl I see calling 30 year olds ancient 🤣
@honeymilknoel28322 ай бұрын
@@FabiolaMacabre average life span for Americans is BELLOW 80. I think it's at 76 now
@MilkyWay_01132 ай бұрын
i have conflicting feelings about this. on one hand, she's rich and can go wipe her tears with 100 dollar bills and she can get off of the internet whenever she wants. but on the other hand i dont support using "that person looks old" as an insult
@Mr.-Roybot2 ай бұрын
Kylie Jenner is 26 years old. 26!! She (and that whole family) have been upholding unrealistic beauty standards for so long through photo editing, cosmetic procedures, lying about cosmetic procedures, and whatever kind of health and fitness program that money like that can afford. Now that she's unable to meet those standards, her self esteem is affected. Don't get me wrong, the internet can be cruel and telling someone that they're ugly isn't ok but she's reaping what she has sown here. It's difficult for me to feel bad for her because she did this to herself (she might have been pressured by her family but until she says it this is what I'm going with)
@PriyaPans2 ай бұрын
Enough that Kim popularised BBLs and the whole group of em popularised the "beige" look and the way they do their makeup too. They sold their entire look and popularised it.
@PriyaPans2 ай бұрын
But if she was pressured by her family (which I'm sure she wanted to fit in!) then again, she needs therapy and to unlearn everything she's learns from them and then learn how to be an individual.
@FabiolaMacabre2 ай бұрын
If it isn’t the consequences of their own actions 😅. The same unrealistic standards they set came back to bite them in the (fake) ass 😅
@needmoresnacks2 ай бұрын
I dislike all of them for different reasons and I can sympathize with her feeling bad from mean comments, but her pretending being 'bullied' is the same as somebody who doesn't have a million other comments loving on you is silly. I think cosmetic surgery is morally neutral, but when you get your lips done then SWEAR to everything you didn't and make millions selling lipstick I think it crosses a line. The unrealistic beauty standards argument is just that, arguable, but they're all super shady with their businesses and Kylie has absolutely done wrong in that way at the very least. Sorry, I don't feel THAT bad.
@angrykatrants2 ай бұрын
I blame Kris for making her family a business to profit from. Would have saved Kylie a lot of hurt if she wasn’t a product from age 8.
@Bibliorobo2 ай бұрын
"I don't think people should talk about my looks." Girl, you're a model. That's literally your job.
@sagalofheim44625 күн бұрын
She’s not though. Wrong sister. Ijs, it’s Kendall that’s a model.
@sarahhannush14662 ай бұрын
It's a difficult position. She was bullied and that's never okay. She has a right to be upset, but she's also not wholly a victim. The lip challenge is absolutely a good thing to bring up, kids got INJURED by trying to copy her, because they weren't told 'hey this is a surgery'. I remember that trend really well, I remember people who had to go to the doctor because they hurt themselves so badly or got something stuck to their faces.
@BritInvLvr2 ай бұрын
Billionaires are hard to feel sorry for.
@FabiolaMacabre2 ай бұрын
I just commented this 😅
@toxicstarcandy2 ай бұрын
This!!
@Badfishtooo2 ай бұрын
Especially over things they did to themselves.
@MsMahawii2 ай бұрын
Isn’t she one of the children who were subjected to unattainable beauty standards? The difference here is that she had the means and spotlight. Let’s not act as if beauty standards were her idea
@iwantabiscuitplz2 ай бұрын
Thank you!! She didn't create the beauty standards; she's a victim of them
@AWindy942 ай бұрын
Exactly 💯
@PentiSam2 ай бұрын
She's spent her whole adult life in the spotlight, with her family pushing a very specific standard and being the "Mean Girls". I don't know what she expected would come of that.
@kittenrants2 ай бұрын
Adult life? She's 26. Childhood and teens years is what you mean.
@PentiSam2 ай бұрын
@@kittenrants Yes, and I'm talking about the adult part of that life.
@Nocturnie2 ай бұрын
I have no sympthy for nepo babies or the rich
@Jessi687zt2 ай бұрын
Same here
@ramirezannette0Ай бұрын
Yup,, oh yeah , yeah, didnt she low key shade selena gomez on tic tok??????, something about eyebrows, not sure what it was , but yeah Feel the karma, kyleeeeee
@tamaravsthevoid2 ай бұрын
As a 35 year old I did a spit take when I saw that cause I’m 35 and people tell me I look 28 😂
@blakelay2 ай бұрын
Two things can be true at once. Victims of bullying can turn around and become a bully themselves. She was opressed by those unattainable beauty standards and she also perpetuated them. I also feel bad for her because people on the internet can be extremely cruel but I also don't feel that bad because she could wipe her ass with the equivalent of my entire yearly salary and she would still be tremendously rich, successful and beautiful.
@tarasalad2 ай бұрын
I don't understand how attacking any person's appearance is promoting body positivity and supporting realistic beauty.
@user-fy5uc8bq3k2 ай бұрын
🎯This. I don't like her, but the "body positive" people are hypocrites.
@Irosicndosjnf2 ай бұрын
Nothing about her is realistic, you should support natural beauty
@tarasalad2 ай бұрын
@@Irosicndosjnf - Why is there a restriction on love and respect? Who defines the natural criteria that's acceptable? If a person colors their hair, gets a tattoo, pierces something, removes hair, gets surgery to correct damage from an accident... Are those fine? I understand societal impact on the minds of youths, but I disagree sending hate is the way to correct that.
@niaram2 ай бұрын
@@Irosicndosjnfyou can support natural beauty without harrassing others
@VonMilk2 ай бұрын
When she’s realistic then I’ll be on board with this statement
@Grymmorot2 ай бұрын
Heck no she is her self a product of the beauty standard and if hate should go anywhere it to the adults that decided to put it out on air
@breel752 ай бұрын
So attacks on her that started at 8 years old are justified because of what those attacks made her feel? Make it make sense.
@agatazietek90982 ай бұрын
She was mocked for her looks since she was a preteen...
@pinknblackproductions2 ай бұрын
I’ve seen people be like “how dare they say that about her theyd never say it to anyone else” Like honey, a ton of people online say shit like this to random strangers. You post your face online, odds are there will be people saying mean shit like this
@rhiiilol23992 ай бұрын
This family have made a millions off of looking a certain way. When your career is based around beauty, people are going to comment on your looks. They say “it’s not okay to comment on someone’s looks” but they have no issue with the nice comments?
@Jessi687zt2 ай бұрын
So true 👏
@tarasalad2 ай бұрын
I've noticed that a lot of people have said they have no sympathy. I'm curious if these people think the attacks to her appearance are justified. To me, there's a significant difference between apathy and insulting a person. Do others think differently?
@shadowdemon22722 ай бұрын
As one of those people with no sympathy: To be clear, "no sympathy" just means "no sympathy", it doesn't mean malicious intent or attacks. There has to be a line somewhere, and yes, things like "kys" and "I hate her" are too far. But, do I think, personally, that pointing out the entirely elective, cosmetic-only procedures she has clearly had, and then on record, denied having, for YEARS, have had and continue to have a highly deleterious effect on the looks she, and her family, have spent her entire life capitalizing on, is a step too far? No, absolutely not.
@tarasalad2 ай бұрын
@@shadowdemon2272 - Thank you! I appreciate the clarification.
@nosiphondlovu67512 ай бұрын
Accountability
@apathybronson2 ай бұрын
This is the internet. This is our 24/7 15 minutes of hate. And calling Kylie Jenner ugly is easier than convincing oneself that one is beautiful even if one doesn't fit the beauty standard
@tarasalad2 ай бұрын
@@nosiphondlovu6751 - I don't understand your comment. Can you clarify?
@jujub78292 ай бұрын
Rather than looking 35 to me she and her sisters give me uncanny valley vibes
@blushface2 ай бұрын
No child signs up for the life Kylie lives. 🤷♀️
@linthoi64562 ай бұрын
Isn’t this family selling point was all about their bodies and looks ??
@irradiated_woman80162 ай бұрын
Ngl i love how bored the other one looks in some of those shots
@MarshsAUTacity2 ай бұрын
Wait she's 26!? There is absolutely no way she was born in 97, she acts like she's well into her 30s. SHE'S GEN Z!? 😭
@agatazietek90982 ай бұрын
That's what being surrounded by much older sisters, mamager and being groomed by adult men as a teen does to your behaviour.
@toriladybird5112 ай бұрын
Shes a pretty girl who had stuff done to her face that will age her FAST 😢 ITS A SHAME HER MOTHER SOLD HER SOUL AND Kylies too.
@aprilsmith55912 ай бұрын
So basically she's crying because she is feeling how she made a lot of women feel
@liathedoll2 ай бұрын
Does she deserve criticism for all the fillers (and lying about them)? yes 100%! but that doesnt mean that some ppl dont go wayyy too far.
@FabiolaMacabre2 ай бұрын
Wow I didn’t know Taylor swift was in her 30’s, and idk what 20 year old needs to hear this, but being in your 30’s is not that ancient, full stop 😂
@ChampagneS43662 ай бұрын
I clicked on the video because i have a problem with the phrase in the thumbnail and i wanted to get the full context because you usually are quite sensitive. I kinda... almost don't care about the wider context. I can sympathise with people who feel bad for comparing herself to her but still i don't think it justifies bullying. I'm not interested in anyone's I don't know exactly how it's affecting her but we don't want another influencer suicide. No matter the context we're all humans. That being said knowing she grew up in the public eye and she got that stuff done when she was a kid makes me think she's kinda a victim who perpetuated unhealthy standards.
@ashwinipurandare94182 ай бұрын
I'm sorry, but 'I went on a journey to desolve half my lip filler' - reallllyyy? what €rap!
@DjDeedzD2 ай бұрын
I feel like multiple things are true at once. She has been bullied as a child by who her family is and growing up in the spotlight. It did leave long-lasting mental health issues that she may need to still work through or may never fully heal from. Her parents allowed her cosmetic surgery too young, in my opinion, that wasn't necessary; for example, accident or congenital. However, she did propetuate the same culture she is a victim of instead of trying to better it. She profited off of it. While beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I personally do agree the footage that everyone says she looked older at. She did to me as well. Ugly, I wouldn't necessarily say, but she looked much, much older to me. It ages the face so much.
@CheeseSlicess2 ай бұрын
I don't like the K Family, I'm 35, so grew up with the pivot from ultra skinny to Kim K looks. That said, I don't think we'd ever grow as humans if we insist on revenge. First of all, because "looking old" shouldn't be used as an insult, but second, because I'd think that by addressing her specifically, someone who was younger than most of the buyers of her make up, does not helpsanyone. I feel like people's reaction to her look on the carpet is more of a sign on the public needing to vent about the pressure of looking a certain way, by saying "hah, see i'm glad i never got anything done" especially since beauty trends come and go even faster now. Some people will react poorly to her speaking of bullying because many of us feel rich & famous and in her case conventionally beautiful don't have the same right to claim such words. I don't know about them all too much, but even I remember that she was the one the whole public mocked relentlessly.
@justingraves86492 ай бұрын
There's more plastic in the Kardashian/Jenners than in the ocean.🤣🤣
@Cbawtam2 ай бұрын
Unproblematic? Really? 🤔 Astroworld and her and the families complete ignorance of it didn’t happen then?
@shamedgeeky2 ай бұрын
They want all the benefits from pushing the impossible beauty standards with none of the flashback. It’s going to be really difficult to go through the process of aging with all of these procedures that we don’t really know the extended effects of yet, but they got the paycheck. It’s a really terrible thing that their mother did to them. If they want sympathy, they could always distribute the majority of the money to relevant charities and do actual work to dismantle the standards that they enforced and profiteered off of. It’s so weird, like, they had to have had a family meeting to discuss how they were all going to start losing weight and presenting as white again. I can’t imagine what that family dynamic would do to a person
@dijahsyoutubechannel2 ай бұрын
people who say "she perpetuated unrealistic beauty standards for years" are MISSING THE POINT. the problem is SYSTEMIC, it's a problem rooted in our consumeristic, elitist, misogynistic culture and history. this isn't the first time in our society we've had people who "perpetuate unrealistic beauty standards", but the problem is the BEAUTY STANDARDS, not the women effected by those beauty standards... let's get a grip y'all. there's plenty of things to criticize the kardashians for that aren't how they look.
@apathybronson2 ай бұрын
Especially for her who had been groomed to be exactly what she is now since she was 8 years old. This was never an active choice for her the way it was for the older generation of that family
@LaraPoee2 ай бұрын
But she’s also the one who contributed to all that? She is the elitist that contributes to this systemic issue. Had young boys and girls thinking that’s how women should look. it seems like all the damage she has caused has caught up to her, what goes around comes around 🤷🏻♀️
@apathybronson2 ай бұрын
@@LaraPoee how exactly is it her fault what her mum forced her into at 8, 9 years old. She's never been empowered to question the systems she perpetuates. Again, like OP said, the issue is SYSTEMIC. She's as much a victim as anybody. Probably more because most of us aren't being raised by a horde of socialites who only ever gained value through beauty.
@dijahsyoutubechannel2 ай бұрын
@@LaraPoee no, she is AN elitist who perpetuates those standards. she is not THE elitist who perpetuates those standards. there are plenty who came before her and plenty who exist around her today. she is a product of a culture that already existed, she is not single-handedly responsible for unattainable beauty standards.
@impposter5602 ай бұрын
She might not have had a choice THEN, but she does now. She's not trapped anymore; she's choosing to keep perpetuating the same system, profiting off the same lies. She's a billionaire; she could choose to walk away right now and break the cycle but she won't, because she has CHOSEN to stay. What happened wasn't her fault, but what she is continuing to do IS. And people who dismiss her culpability are the ones missing the point; systems are supported by the people that maintain them, they don't just exist autonomously. The only way to dismantle a system is to hold the PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTIVELY MAINTAINING IT accountable. The system isn't some nebulous fantasy monster, its People. People like the Kardashians and everyone else who profits off beauty standards
@Y2Jerms2 ай бұрын
I had no idea these were 2 different people
@HomeFryWolfie2 ай бұрын
No, i honestly dont think she deserves it. No one does. I know she is in the public eye and stuff, but she was put there when she was a child. Yes she is an adult now, but did she really learn to be an adult out of the public eye?
@Belle1111Earthangel2 ай бұрын
She's beautiful to me before and after surgery. Aside from her have billions of dollars, she is human being and none of us want to be called old or ugly🤷♀️
@Kiefsti2 ай бұрын
I still see that little girl that Kris shoved in front of a camera for her own narcissism, I genuinely feel bad for Kylie. She had money, but she didn't have it easy.
@zoekellam40832 ай бұрын
What I'm mad about is Jenner was and is NOT old enough to try to copyright 'KYLIE'. Technically, neither is Kylie Minogue since it's an Australian Indigenous word, but at least Minogue matches the Australian part of the description, and has put in enough work over decades to block the appropriation attempt from yet another American.
@coyoteartist2 ай бұрын
It also derives from Gaelic Irish.
@bkk19962 ай бұрын
I do feel for Kylie bc she didn't ask to be thrust into the spotlight. Her frustrations should be towards her parents and sisters for that. While I do feel for her in that regard, it should be said that Kylie doesn't have to stay in the spotlight. She could donate most of her wealth and still be absurdly wealthy. She could be living low key is some hideous concrete and beige mansion being a sahm if she really wanted to. Not to mention everything this family does is calculated and strategic. I'm not saying that mean comments don't get to her, but I also don't trust any of them to be genuine or authentic. At this point, I don't even think they know how.
@ashwinipurandare94182 ай бұрын
It's called karma, and it's catching up. This family brought this on themselves.
@god5636162 ай бұрын
Praying for Kylie. Public opinion is NOT the judge and jury. The way people show their jealousy and insecurities is by dragging another person down.
@MsTinkerbelle872 ай бұрын
2:11 gave me Britney vibes 🥺💔 They forget they are people, shes not her sister.
@shellymary-frank78632 ай бұрын
I blame her mom
@Noneofyourbusiness578172 ай бұрын
Anything to stay relevant
@jamesrobbins12432 ай бұрын
Kylie describes "dissolving half my lip filler" as "going on a journey." Holy WTF?
@apathybronson2 ай бұрын
Imagine you've lived your whole life being taught that the only true value you have is beauty. And not even your own beauty. But the type of beauty that has the biggest mass appeal and if you don't grow that beauty by yourself it will be injected into you.
@MaeveLaRenarde2 ай бұрын
We just aren't rich enough to understand
@FabiolaMacabre2 ай бұрын
Can’t relate 😂
@FabiolaMacabre2 ай бұрын
@@apathybronsonwe don’t have to imagine, all women are held to these crazy standards, some of us just don’t care enough to perpetuate them 😅
@KeriJo122 ай бұрын
It's sort of like someone losing a ton of weight and building a platform around health and weight loss, and then getting upset when that's all people want to talk about. Like, yes, you have other qualities, and you bring other beautiful things to the table, but this is the only thing people know about you, and it's your entire crafted image.
@sgsummerisle2 ай бұрын
I really feel for her and I definitely think that she wasn't responsible for how young she was when she started to get permanent cosmetic procedures. She is an adult now, though, so I hope she continues to care for herself and speak out about bullying. I also hope that she begins speaking out about how the standards she was promoting WERE harmful and that what her parents allowed her to do WASN'T ok. There is a way to be who you are and look how you want to look, even if it's heavily altered by surgeries and fillers, and still advocate for love and acceptance towards all looks and body types.
@Sarahkara13132 ай бұрын
I have NO sympathy bc she literally contributed to forcing these standards and now she doesn’t like it bc it’s now coming back around for her
@breel752 ай бұрын
Yet those standards were forced on her first. She isn't the perpetrator of the cycle, she is a victim of it.
@Sarahkara13132 ай бұрын
@@breel75 women can still perpetuate misogyny 😂😂 she gets no sympathy from me
@Sarahkara13132 ай бұрын
@@breel75 HER FAMILY forced them on her AND US - this isn’t.sometning they get out of by crying
@tarasalad2 ай бұрын
@@Sarahkara1313 - Are you saying because of her past and her family there's nothing she could ever do to try to change?
@Sarahkara13132 ай бұрын
@@tarasalad no empathy for billionaires as there are no ethical billionaires.
@0mniaVanitas2 ай бұрын
this might be a hot take bc celebrity culture has twisted this issue so much, but i really doubt anyone signs up to be dehumanized, and i don't think it should come with the territory, you'd think that in a post Free Britney world and after all this awareness of the things child celebs had to go through, you'd assume people would stop acting like kylie jenner is the devil incarnate, but what do i know? i'm just a silly little guy that occasionally writes youtube comments
@alderoth012 ай бұрын
I think people would have an easier time believing her or any of them if their problems werent saved for their show.
@christamarie8182 ай бұрын
Firstly, she didn't sign up to be on the show, her parents and her sisters did so she didn't really ask for anything, yes she's continued with it once she was of consenting age but to pass down the opportunities she has been given because people say mean shit about you would be crazy and I doubt anyone would. Second, it seems like all women in the western world feel some sort of pressure to look how the Kardashians look and we don't even know them, imagine the pressure on the youngest sibling in this family who really, pre-surgery and fillers, looked nothing like any of the others. If I was her, I probably would have went down the typical child star turned junkie route; hell, I wasn't a child star and I still went down the junkie route so I think she is doing pretty good for the life she has been handed.
@apathybronson2 ай бұрын
Tbf nobody looked like each other before the surgeries in that family
@HeatherFoster-nk5vn28 күн бұрын
I mean, she was put in the spotlight as a small child and held under scrutiny being compared to her older sisters constantly - one of which was a sex icon. Shes just as much as victim of the same beauty standards as everyone else, only her family has the money to actually attain them. Small waist, big hips and full lips have always been the standard. Kylie Jenner alone is not responsible for them. She only perpetuates them
@CherryBlush3132 ай бұрын
She never signed up for anything, it was her older sisters and parents especially their mom that put her out into the public eye on tvs everywhere. People just wanted to look like the Kardashians because they thought they were pretty. It's up to those people on how they want to look not the Kardashians. They are not responsible for your life choices. Same thing happened with the Jersey Shore back in the day. People liked that aesthetic and lifestyle. It just is what it is. I don't think it should all be on Kylie and saying she "made the beauty standard" she didn't. You followed her.
@desireeeeam2 ай бұрын
lol the music in the clip 😂😂😂
@Red-ff8ly2 ай бұрын
I mean I’m not a fan of Kylie but she was also one the girls that was subjected to unrealistic beauty standards like thats the reason she got all this surgery as such a young age? I don’t understand bullying her or her appearance it’s not progressive. sure she’s also had a part to play with promoting said unrealistic beauty expectations so instead of bullying her for her looks, criticize that for that instead. This bullying is only making the beauty standards worse anyone that thought she was pretty will think worse of themselves now since people wanna talk about how ‘ugly’ or ‘old’ she looks
@wendyraye12 ай бұрын
People are called ugly and bullied because they can't live up to the beauty standards her and her family created. People were bullied because of people like her, now the tables are turning, it's a never ending cycle. Maybe we would be better to get out of the cycle rather than debating who is right. But then again these people wouldn't have the money they have if we did that, so they are probably okay with that. 🤷♀️
@GreenGlo19912 ай бұрын
Honestly the people who decided to turn their children into money are why this has happened at all. It’s… like I have a hard time sympathizing with someone who’s never wanted for ANYTHING in her life but I understand why it hurts her so
@justingraves86492 ай бұрын
People are RIGHT tho... They DID perpetuate unrealistic beauty standards. Sorry, but I don't have sympathy for them.
@niaram2 ай бұрын
the perpetuate them because they’re also victims of them though
@pinknblackproductions2 ай бұрын
Unless it’s a health thing, I dont think anyone under 18 or even 21 should be able to get cosmetic surgery, like not only is your brain not developed but also your body may still be changing. If trans people need a therapists approval before they can get gender affirming surgery, maybe people under like 25 should have to get that too.
@stargateMimhi2 ай бұрын
Basic decency, two wrongs don't make a right. While she did, at least in part, set the toxic standards that she is now being held up to, it's also pointlessly cruel to call her old when she looks like a normal 20 something now.
@gshimon2 ай бұрын
I mean the problem never was tha she had cosmetic procedures, the problem was that she never disclosed those procedures and instead when people asked about her appearance she said "this is natural" and then started to promote poop teas and whatnot to promote unhealthy beauty standards on children and making bank
@honeymilknoel28322 ай бұрын
So the kardashians DO put bumper stickers on bentlys 😂
@lieselottekramer23022 ай бұрын
Her family and other people all made her follow a systematic beauty ideal and now are mad that she followed it? There’s a lot to criticise about the kardashians/jenners but we can’t pretend that she made all of these decisions herself, the internet and tabloids are very powerful factors to take into consideration. You see it with almost every celebrity/influencer, they get bullied or harassed for how they look and present themselves, they change to fit what other people want from them, but then they made themselves unattractive or it’s still not good enough and then the hatetrain begins and get harassed for having surgeries or changing their image too much. They claim they want authenticity but then bully them out of it and then when they still don’t like you, say you’re fake. You cant win
@lisavandenhoven56722 ай бұрын
I understand that growing up in a fishbowl is lousy and her feelings are valid. That said, her same age peers are facing some way bigger challenges than she is, so spending time feeling sad about this kind of feels like rich people problems, you know?
@niaram2 ай бұрын
i mean i feel rich people are still allowed to be sad about things. just because others have it worse doesn’t mean somebody can’t deal with their own stuff
@lisavandenhoven56722 ай бұрын
@niaram They can be sad. Sure. I said her feelings are valid. But when it comes to other people caring about it... idk. I care enough to not bully her myself. But not much more than that.
@niaram2 ай бұрын
@@lisavandenhoven5672 i see what ur saying!
@molls2531Ай бұрын
I feel like this is a lose/lose situation. I remember years ago Kylie Jenner was bodyshamed for her body and thin lips when she was just a teenager. When she got surgery she still got heavily criticized. We also live in a generation where we try to get rid of the beauty standards yet make fun of ppl who don’t fit those standards.
@Jahhprodigy2 ай бұрын
People are too obsessed with their looks. It's horrible how we exploit young women. This is probably why she felt she needed to do those things to begin with. I would never wish something like that on my daughter. I feel horrible for her.
@gigiapollo2 ай бұрын
I don’t think Kylie deserves some of the horrendous things said to/about her, because honestly some weirdos took it too far. Especially when they brought her kids or her own appearance as a child into it. HOWEVER, she absolutely deserves to be dragged and held accountable for trying to sell products off a LIE about her sudden change in appearance.
@Jessi687zt2 ай бұрын
She is a good actor 😂😂😂😂
@twilightguardian2 ай бұрын
I think it's a bit of both, really. No, she didn't sign up for it when she was a child, and people certainly shouldn't have been talking about her looks when she wasn't even a teenager. Of course that would affect her self esteem. They should have just left her alone and allowed her to be a child. But at the same time she grew up in this already unhealthy environment that wouldn't have helped with her self esteem issues anyways, so it's hard to tell how that would have affected her going forward. And certainly her family should not have allowed her to get cosmetic surgery when she was sixteen. But she also chooses as an adult to stay in the spotlight. She's in her mid 20's now and chooses to keep going like this. I'm glad that she's reversing all the harmful things she's done to herself and choosing to live a more authentic life, but to be a celebrity is to be criticized for one's actions and appearances. Celebrities are the ultimate influencers and to continue to do such is to accept her role in that. There are many people who choose to end their celebrity status and go on to live quiet lives out of the public eye.
@iwantabiscuitplz2 ай бұрын
Thank you for not jumping on the Kylie bullying train with so many others. I wish people realised the sheer misogyny of some of their comments. She is literally being cyber-bullied (mainly by other women) en masse. She doesn't deserve that. The way people hate on her is so disproportionate to the thing they hate her for (getting her lips done and lying about it), you'd think she'd committed an egregious crime.
@BalletomaneMАй бұрын
The horrific negative impact her lies have had on not only women but young girls is egregious.
@Mary-ix9sgАй бұрын
"It's her fault for ruining her face and setting unrealistic beauty standards" lol, those beauty standards existed long before she was even born. She didn't start or create those beauty standards. Plump lips have been considered more beautiful than thin lips for decades, hence why she got the goddamn fillers in the first place. Old Hollywood actresses would put piece of cotton in the mouth between their lips and gums to make their lips protrude more and look thicker. People have been getting lip fillers since the early 1900s. The first plumper lip glosses were sold in the early 2000s. This is a beauty standard that has been around for at least over a century!!! Claiming she set those standards is straight up misinformation, and it's hypocritical to act like she's the only 16yo girl to have desperately wanted and gotten fillers. She is as much a victim of these beauty standards as anyone else and being rich and famous doesn't change that. These are all just vaguely "feminist-sounding" excuses so that people can feel justified in hating her. The reality is that making fun of her lips did far more damage to young women and the body-positivity movement than her lying about not having fillers. There are people who have naturally large lips, and making fun of Kylie's lips hurt them too. You can't preach about body positivity and bodily autonomy one minute and then be making fun of a teenage girl's appearance and demonizing her for getting cosmetic enhancements the next minute.
@alexvlahakis97042 ай бұрын
“I went on a journey dissolving my filler” I don’t know why that got me so bad
@RobynRorke2 ай бұрын
The bullying is terrible, as are these comments. Her mom put her in the show, and had alot to do with that. The real issue is lying about how her lips are and her body are from surgery, then using those standards to sell products and make a fortune. I think you uncharacteristically missed a major reason why there's a clap back and less sympathy.
@fizzydanteАй бұрын
Y’all will blame women for trying to attain aesthetic “perfection” instead of blaming MISOGYNY, the entire reason Kylie got so much work done in the first place. It’s the patriarchy you should be mad at not individual women.
@NicholasMcdermottNick2 ай бұрын
My plans for the weekend will be, playing Final Fantasy XIV, gonna play the newxpac Dawntrail.
@user-cd4ms6cf8l2 ай бұрын
Holy moly, being a billionaire and getting one guyed, thie is actually pathetic
@angelicahale21222 ай бұрын
When she wiped her tears she looks like she's got those tiny hands covering her eyes haha
@danikim2352 ай бұрын
While I don't condone sending Kylie any hate, it's hard to be empathetic towards someone who contributed to millions of girls / young women being bullied and cry over how they look.
@megmcguigan3857Ай бұрын
I'm 53 and have had no work done to my face at all, and she looks older than me. No joke!
@IamAbhorsen2 ай бұрын
Yeah i'm sure it sucks to see people insulting you since you were a child based off of looks but she is a adult now with millions of dollars who has access to therapy but instead of getting help with her body dysmorphia she just throws pitty parties. Everyone else is the bad guy and she is always the victim when it would be easier to just acknowledge the negative impact you have had on young people. I think it's sort of a good thing to show young women that getting endless plastic surgery obviously isn't the answer. I'd have more respect for her if she'd just own up to it all. I tried to make my comment make sense but it was just rambling lol
@sarahviktoria8494Ай бұрын
“I’ve never kried about this before….” I am embarrassed for her.
@shadowdemon22722 ай бұрын
"It isnt okay to talk about someone's looks" Then don't make your entire online identity about your looks and everyone else's looks? Sorry if you never realized the tigers might eat your face too?
@tarasalad2 ай бұрын
Did she often criticize other people's appearance? If so, then I agree it's hypocritical to call others bullies when she was being the bully.
@blahanger43046 күн бұрын
I will never understand people like this.
@Badfishtooo2 ай бұрын
Kendalls fake sympathy cry is a lot. 😂
@FirefliesMulti2 ай бұрын
People are so mean! It's not ok to say these things, even if she DID get surgeries... I mean the entire reason she got the surgeries in the first place, is that people are so critical... nasty, insensitive. I can tell you what's ugly... their comments! Kylie isn't ugly in the slightest. She is in the public eye... the public and society give celebrities this unrealistic standard they need to live up to. The industry creates this, not the celebrities themselves. I'm often called ugly... and it's crushed my self esteem and destroyed me to the core. Its a huge part of my/our mental illness. Why do people even have to say these things? Even if they think them, or feel justified in them... just SHUT UP! No one... deserves this. no matter how much surgery they have. These trolls can keep patting themselves on the back and claiming that it's ok to behave they way they do... but they need to go look in a mirror!
@T1ttyLedz2 ай бұрын
She's super rich, doesnt have to be online or in the public eye but still shows up online and on these shows I have no sympathy for her
@fancydeer2 ай бұрын
Her mom/sisters shouldn't have allowed/encouraged her to have surgery before her face was finished forming. She doesn't look bad, but she doesn't look her age. She looks older than me and I'm 33. She really needs to stop fucking with her face and just let it chill. I will say whatever surgeons the Kardashians use is a fucking artist, the Kardashians all have gorgeous work that fits their bone structure. No matter how much they've had done their surgeon/s haven't gone overboard and that is saying something.
@darren59252 ай бұрын
This is the price of being famous , it's unfortunate but there are people out there that love to say nasty things , you can get upset or have a thick skin and ignore it.
@HobieInTheBox2 ай бұрын
2 things can be true at the same time. Yes she was relentlessly bullied as a child, she's aware of the toxicity people throw ta others based on beauty standards. However, when she became an adult (and I don't mean 18, but at least 21, 22), did she not become self aware of all of this? Why did she not at least try to put a stop to her branch of brands who continue to perpetual these toxic standards. She's both a victim and a perpetrator
@phoenixdavida89872 ай бұрын
Yes!
@Elfprincess_2 ай бұрын
The problem is her actions do not align to what she wanted to be portrayed. She keeps wanting people to have sympathy for her for bullying but she harm people by promoting unrealistic beauty standards, selling make ups when people are having trouble keeping their houses, using her Jet as a car and lying about her net worth just to brag to the world that she’s the youngest Billionaire, using your children like a brand, sueing people for their company names because you wanted to trade mark them. Not to mention stealing your Logo from the original designer and sueing them as well because you wanted to own it If you wanted people to sympathize with you? Stop trying to elevate yourself from the people you are trying to appeal to and do good things that will have a good lasting impact for the generations to come. Not physical beauty, try inner beauty.
@justingraves86492 ай бұрын
Billie, just like the Oceangate sub vid, you're never gonna get me to have sympathy for the rich.🤷🏼♂
@vamvam76902 ай бұрын
Why would someone’s monetary worth mean you can’t feel sympathy/empathy for them as a human though?