That's also why I go to Lewis 👍🏼

After watching this vid, Ashley, I spoke to Lewis and asked him to install a dash cam to my van, when he does the final fix electrics on the campervan. You certainly influenced my decision, thanks for posting the video and also the post fit review. 👍

This is the exact reason I do every bit of maintenance and repairs myself, even if it’s supposed to be under warranty. I don’t trust anyone but me touching my vehicles!

Not just one another they are friendly to us outside delivery drivers also. Had tea and toast the other day on a delivery in stoneycroft. 👌

@@Jonc25 oh aye, I'm from Leeds, have only been to Liverpool twice, but last time I proposed to my partner there and the whole trip just found every scouser we encountered to be an absolute bobby dazzler. Like a whole city has managed to have its personality stats bumped up.

@@MiseEnZheng Leeds folk are pretty good to me, but the roads by the university do my nut in. and it's not fun when it snows. 👍

@@Fazer_600 At the moment you are needing to run to the middle of the windscreen the power to run two cameras, the lcd and the power for CPU to compress the video/audio and write it to disk (and often the power to charge the built in battery/capacitor). If you have a third camera you also need to run that connection up there to do the same, this lead is often thicker to avoid any losses in the cable as it also has to carry power to the rear camera, so the camera could be much smaller. With my solution you would only need to run as much power as needed to power the camera all the hardwork would be handled by the recorder box. You would also move the bulky bits of the system to another location so you could run a 4 inch screen and even add an SSD for recording (microSD cards are too unreliable). If an insurance company wanted to build this into their 'black boxes' you could even run a data cable to the OBD2 port to read what the car was doing if/when it has an accident. But that may start to get complicated/expensive, better to just have the recording box that does it all for you. This solution would also mean that the same recorder could be used for cars, lorries, buses and motorcycles, so long as you could find somewhere dry. A cab driver could have the box difficult to access (under the bonnet?) so if they had a runner they couldn't just rip the camera off the screen and take the evidence with them.

@@gordon861 Another option would be for the car manufacturers to respond to the trend for dash cams by putting a USB port in the rearview mirror cluster/a piece of trim nearby. So many cars these days have a sensor cluster there anyway for auto-wipers and headlights, maybe a hands-free mic as well, so the cable run is done. Adding an extra power run plus a USB-C port up there would cost no more than a couple of quid at manufacture, but allow end-users to power a dash cam with a ~6 inch cable, rather than a 6 foot one. Potentially the same on the boot. To me, that should be the approach on even base models. Premium model cars by this point should have fully integrated recording systems. Throw a camera in that cluster, if you don't already have cameras everywhere (a la Tesla) (the sensor tech has more or less matured now, I wouldn't expect to see huge leaps in the sensors used over the lifetime of the car - unless they really skimped out in the first place), SSD based recording system integrated with the in-car entertainment. Integrate various other information (possibly beyond even what is available via OBD-II), such as acceleration/braking, indicator & lights status, speed, maybe the various driver-assistance tools in a modern vehicle. Of course, none of that helps those of us who can't afford a new car, in which case I definitely agree there'd be a market for your proposed design (if SSD prices didn't push unit prices too high). My car has a couple of cubby-holes just under the front footwells that would be perfect for housing such a system.

@@nowillnoway I've seen some cars with axillary circuits in the boot that are wired to the ignition, so they could also be used. But I totally agree, car manufacturers should be doing more, so many cars are starting to have cameras to detect speed limits and lanes there's really no reason these cameras couldn't be utilized as a dashcam. The only problem with this approach is privacy and how much information you want to make available that could be used against you should the police decide to go on a fishing expedition. At the moment, if you have an accident the footage may be available and it's also 'your footage' and you have control of the level of detail that is recorded. I like to have the choice of how much data is recorded My helmet cam does not have GPS and my dash cam doesn't record the footage with the speed readout on the image, this is a conscious decision by me not to make this information easily available. Should anyone want to calculate the speed it's possible from the footage but it'll require a lot more work and there will be an element of error in the calculation that could be argued should the need arise. I do, on occasion, allow my speed to creep a little high on the bike when conditions permit (most riders do, including the off duty police that I have discussed it with). The last thing you need is to be pulled over and the footage being seized and used as evidence because it has the numbers right there on the screen, I would rather make them prove the case than have my own footage dob me in. I think I've already heard of issues in the US where the argument is going along the lines of who owns the data that your car records and does the car company have the right to download and monetise the information when you go in for a service without your express agreement, or do the police need a warrant to take the data. Data tracking is just going to keep becoming a bigger problem as we go forward with more computing power added to cars.

as majority of cars on the road already has reversing cams, I'd like to think that manufacturers will eventually add front cam and recording function for a true "black box" experience.

I was thinking a similar thing for battery powered cams - None of my cameras even have displays - the cycliq fly 12 and fly 6 and the Drift Ghost X and Drift Ghost XL. All are bricks however because they have about 4 hours battery life... would be amazing if you could pack the battery and hardware separate to the camera sensor, and then just attach a much smaller item in your cockpit/to your helmet etc which is sensibly wired through to the hardrive/computer and battery.

My plan, if I ever get around to doing it, is to just run a second camera in the back, only need to run a live from the front then as you should be able to take the earth from the back of the car.

@@gordon861 seems like overkill, and don’t you want the front and rear to be synced. It was really easy on my old A5, used a length of plastic strip and found a clear run from front to back in the head liner. On the new A5 just can’t get the strip through.

I'm terrible for breaking stuff with my sledge hammer hands.😄

@@Jonc25 Now then Jezza..... "Come on..... come ooooonnn!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@grahamnutt8958 🤣😂

@@grahamnutt8958 Honestly Graham i took rear door panel off to see if i could get window working, ended up taking it to the garage. Mechanic said after who the F@£k has been messing with this, had to replace most of the door card clips. 😬

@@Jonc25 Whoops!! 🤣lmao

You should!

@@ashley_neal well I’ve never been to Liverpool so I may spend a few days while installation is happening.. thanks for the video! How do you find the operation of the camera? Also just bought the Camera!

@@markplenty2631 You sure should Great City, has lots to see and do, when permitted! Liverpool Auto Care isnt far from the centre.

@@willow43 thanks for the info, prob gonna leave it until the autumn and then that way I can know for sure we’re all good but I’m excited to see what I can find to do!

In one of my parents car they had a system that would turn off the fuel pump after a mile or so. It was a hidden switch to disable it but if the car was stolen the car would get a little distance then start bleeping a warning at you, if you didn't hit the hidden switch the pump would switch off and you aren't going anywhere, the system would reset every time the car was turned off. Most car thieves would just abandon a car that stops in the middle of the road rather than try and work out what was wrong with it, it would also be far enough away that they couldn't threaten you so that you'll tell them how to restart the car.

On your second point. It isn't piggy backing off of another fuse. Instead it is running on its own fuse, but splits an existing fuse socket into two. The original fuse runs separately to the dashcam fuse. Both devices fused independently. It'd be far too difficult to run a new fuse from the fusebox, even if there's a free spot, as there would no way for the car to decide when to power the socket. You'd also need some kind of relay to trigger/switch the fuse on and off. I've ran the fuse socket splitter that Ashleys used for years, for dashcams, amplifier trigger wires and the such.

You can actually use an empty slot on some vehicles, as long as they have ignition power to them. However, you may also need a constant 12V which usually would be indicated by a yellow wire. If this is the case, the Camera will use the car battery for power and most will monitor the battery level and shut it off if it gets too low. In the scenario the camera doesn't have the yellow wire, the camera usually has an internal battery used for the parking mode.

@@LukeGuitarSmith I never saw why they did not use the hardwire kit he brought. I saw that the kit supplied by vantrue was sensitive to what side the fuse got power on. That makes sense otherwise the lowe power cutoff relay could not work. If no power output was the reason the kit was scrapped might have been due to this very issue. But I'm just guessing.

Lewis did cover this point later in the video.

I used to fit my own car stereos and power the amplifier from the battery. Taking power from the fuse box is much easier 👍🏼

It’s good to have professional friend you can trust and knows what you want done. By the way, nice transitions! This video is on repeat.

The Viofo ones in the description are the ones I use 👍

@@ashley_neal thank you!

No, constant live 👍🏼

@@ashley_neal Which one is "constant live"? Lol

It doesn't use the 12v/cigarette lighter, it gets its live/neutral from the fuse and then earth from the bolt. Think of it as a lamp you plug in to a socket compared to the light you switch on at the wall.. it doesn't need a plug as it's hard wired into the wall

Codec issues he explains on his flawed dash cam video

I'm sure Lewis and Heidi at Liverpool Auto Care will be able to give you a quote. Mine was more complicated because we had to work around the dual controls also. Have a look for their contact information in the description. 👍🏼

In southern California it costs around $100 - $150 per hour of labor. I got quoted $250 to install both cameras. Supposedly it would take 2 hours to do the job. I ended up doing it myself. It took me about 2.5 hours, but then again I have no experience and I was extra careful with everything.

You can actually just choose not to record the inside also.

@@ashley_neal ah that's handy then