Thanks for checking out our content and the Sub!!! Appreciate your comment and hope you enjoy the other videos! The Virtual Pinball build is pretty cool if you are into pinball at all. Enjoy!

WOW that is a big compliment! Thank you so much (love the name by the way bulkpeanuts). Appreciate you watching and commenting. Hope you enjoy some of the other videos on the channel too.

Hey lukaszkulasek, sorry for the delay... I thought I replied to this but my internet did go out briefly last week so I had a few replies that didn't upload apparently. Really appreciate the compliment, I try to work hard to make these as informative and concise as possible. It's nice to hear I'm doing a good job so THANK YOU! And Many thanks to you for taking the time to watch and comment, really appreciate it!

Glad to help NayveYT, It really is an awesome headset, especially now at only $990! Don't forget I have affiliate links if you want to help the channel out with your order varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html :)

Thanks Scott, glad you liked it. Appreciate the compliments and you taking time to comment. Stay tuned for more.

Glad it helped, and thanks for the view and comment. Hope you check out some of my other content too.

Thank you so much for taking the time to leave a comment! We will keep doing what we do and hope you come back for more. Thanks for watching!

Well better late than never right :) but seriously thanks for the view. Hope you enjoy your Aero... I know I'm still loving mine. Let me know your thoughts after using it a little.

Thank you so much... I know it was a tough call for lots of people to justify that expense so just doing my part to help them make an informed decision. Still no regrets on my purchase and hope others feel the same. Appreciate you watching our content!

Wow that will be a big leap from the Rift S!!! I'm glad I could help in your info search. For the holiday's I'm trying to figure out a way I can offer a small discount if I set up an affiliate link for the Aero. If you haven't purchased by then, maybe I can at least save you a few bucks... we will see. Thanks for watching our stuff and appreciate the comment.

Thanks for the Sub djp. Appreciate the view.

Thank you Dragan for the compliment, Hopefully we made a fan of GYGO out of you? Appreciate you stopping by and taking a look.

@@GYGOtv Immediate subscription is a natural reaction! ;)

@@DraganStanojevic Thanks for the Sub Dragan, hope you like some of our other content as well!

Thank cameronpudy, appreciate the comment and the view.

Awesome, glad to help and I really appreciate the feedback. Sounds like the next thing you need to add is some tactile feedback like a Buttkicker 2 or something. Feeling the vibration of the jet engine through the seat is amazing. Obviously adding a motion platform is the ultimate experience and it really makes your brain think you're flying the plane. I absolutely love all the stuff! Please let me know how my settings work out for you. Thanks for being a GYGO viewer.

@@GYGOtv Oh for sure! I've been using Buttkicker 2 and my Jetseat with Simshaker for a few years now and I couldn't agree more!

Thanks background man... and the best part is watching my video didn't cost you $2000... well I guess it might end up costing you $2000 but that will go to Varjo, not me :) Appreciate you taking the time to both watch and leave a well written comment. Appreciate the positive feedback as well. I literally just got out of flying 1 mission in my F/A-18 for the past 2 and a half hours and I still love the Aero! For racing, I really think it is the best out there. Again, Pimax is looming with a supposed new headset so if you want to wait for it you can... but I'm skeptical about how good theirs will be in the end. You can watch my videos on the Pimax 12K OLED and Pimax Crystal if you haven't yet, for more info. FYI, I've been offered an invitation to join Varjo's affiliate program and may do that, but am trying to get at least some sort of discount for the buyer. Not sure if it will happen or not, but when you are ready to buy you may check back here to see if I was successful! Thanks again for being a GYGO viewer and good luck with your VR purchase.

Thank Goodness your G2 is under warranty. Keep us updated on the return process and total turnaround time (inclusive of when you drop it off and when it is actually delivered to your door) and whether or not it was a domestic ship / fix / return, or INTL ship / fix / return. Thanks so much for your contributions and comment regarding the G2.

No problem, glad you found it useful. And thank you SOOO much for watching our content!

Really Appreciate the SUB! Thank you and thanks for the comment. Hope you enjoy some of my other videos and hopefully some of the ones coming up!

Thanks for the view and compliment. Here's hoping the Pimax 12K QLED gets us closer to what you are talking about!

@@GYGOtv I hope so too!

Thanks for the Sub, and the kind words! Nice to know all the effort that goes into these is worth it for you all! Hope you enjoy some of my other content as well.

Thank you for watching. I always worry that these are too long, but people seem to like them. I appreciate the positive feedback and your recognizing all the work that goes into these. Hope you enjoy some of my other content as well.

Thanks Craig, glad you liked it and I hope it helped answer any questions you had. Appreciate you viewing our content and leaving a comment!

Thanks GTGREG, that is a BIG compliment and really means a lot. When I started the channel, I didn't even think people would care what I thought. I guess I was wrong (at least a little). I'll continue to try and put out the best content I can. The channel is starting to take off and I'm considering upping my game, comments like this help reinforce that decision. Thanks again!

@@GYGOtv We appreciate the honesty because these are expensive purchases and we want to be sure of everything before making the steep dive

That has been my experience too. Glad you are enjoying it! Thanks for being a GYGO viewer!

You are so welcome, and I think you will love this thing for flying! Wishing you a quick and speedy delivery! Thanks for the comment.

Thanks Kim, glad you enjoyed it.

Thank you so much for not only taking the time to watch the video, but also to write such a lengthy and well thought out comment. I do my best to put my original thoughts into all my videos, there are times when I'm including something that I haven't tried and I have to rely on others, but try to keep that to a minimum when possible. Sorry to hear you had problems with the G2 but you certainly shouldn't have tracking problems with the Varjo using the lighthouses. It's an amazing system.

Larine, my thoughts exactly. I actually have some of the most "popular" VR and gamer reviewers on "block" as they lack quality.

@@mikem.2078 Well I hope you never feel the need to "block" GYGO... One thing I will promise is that I will always be genuine. Thanks for all the awesome comments!

@@GYGOtv Sounds good! My assumption is that today's "children" currently making youtube videos will eventually catch on and realize quality is greater than popularity. Then again, maybe not, but I'm mildly hopeful.

Agreed! The in depth explanation was very helpful

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@@PashaGamingYT Thanks for noticing, it was originally pinned... must have unpinned along the way when I was replying one late night when I was tired. Appreciate the help and the views!

How do you set 7.1 sound? Is this on Windows Control panel or in the Varjo software?

@@doggiehowzer Mine is in the Corsair iCue Software. You have to have an audio headset that supports 7.1 or it won't be there as an option I don't think.

@@GYGOtv I just tested the M&D MG20 and positional audio works wirelessly. But it is game dependent. AC didnt seem to support it. But PC2 did

Thanks for the compliment Fish! I agree we are not quite there with GPUs yet... but I do think Dynamic Foveated Rendering could make the difference with today's GPUs if games start implementing that. I feel like my overclocked 3080ti gets me just to the min of what I want but I'd love to have just a little more headroom, so we will see what the new 4000 series brings. I will say, if you are a flight sim guy, you will really like the experience in the Aero (or the Aero 2 if you wait long enough) :)

I think it really depends on how much time you're comfortable dedicating to optimizing your sims. There are a lot of "tweaks" that must be made in order to run on current systems. 2 that come to mind: 1. Changing your "rooms" 2. Implementing OpenXR 1. This is coming from the perspective of a WMR Odyssey+ user. Both SteamVR and WMR both have a space that you launch from. In games based on SteamVR, I first have to launch from my "Skyspace," the 3d room/interface for WMR. Then I have a whole separate room for Steam. For WMR, you can change your skyspace from this large beautiful multi-room apartment to a 3 sided room that includes 2 walls and a floor. The reason? Because the former eats up gigs of VRam while that latter eats up just a few megabytes. With the Steam "room," you can just eliminate it so that you're in a wireframe environment with the steam menu in front of you. Both "rooms" ran in the background, costing a ton of overhead. 2. Forcing your software to use OpenXR instead of Steam VR. I don't know about "all" of the titles, but in Assetto Corsa Competizione and DCS, forcing OpenXR eeks out significantly better performance. Additionally, MSFS2020 is amazing in VR. You can't run it 100% maxxed out, but then again, most rigs cannot do that in 4k. If you adjust the settings accordingly, it runs better in VR than XPlane or MSFS X ran in 2d 10 years ago. Other titles such as Elite Dangerous, Raceroom, the original Assetto Corsa, and Automobilista 2 all run phenomenally in VR. For reference, I'm running a 10Gb 3080 and a 5900x. Sorry for the long reply. But VR gaming is approachable now for the right amount of money, know-how, and technical prowess.... in simming. Other games run with very little to zero tweaking required. It's the high-powered sims that require technical prowess. As far as VR Simming being Plug and Play? My money is on the 5 series. Cheers!

Thanks for the view, comment and the compliment Derek! Ya, I didn't buy and index because it wasn't OLED... I was hesitant to buy the HP G2 because it wasn't OLED (but glad I did for the resolution). I was hoping by the time the AERO got to me they would have the local dimming implemented... was disappointing to hear from them that they may not ever do that. If the AERO didn't tick so many other boxes for me, the blacks may have been a deal breaker for me. But man the experience is so good in every other way that I'm happy to own the Aero. Just wish they would fix that one last problem.

@@GYGOtv Oh, they actually said they might not implement it? That's a bummer...

@@justaguydoinstuff To be specific they said "Aero is capable of local dimming, but there isn’t currently public information available about the future of this feature." so what to you read into that?

@@GYGOtv Hmmm....it might mean that they just aren't ready to release public info about it because it's still in testing....at least I'd like to think that!

Thanks for your impressions and comment Shelvin! It's great to have other people's feedback on here so others can get as close to the truth about the headset as possible. Everyone has a different experience in VR and the Aero is a lot of money and it is a significant investment for sure!

Hi Low Blow, I continue to believe that the G2 is the best VALUE in VR, and your comment seems to reinforce that. The new developments with OpenXR, etc. have helped everyone it seems. I do a lot of DCS and they just introduced multi-threading which also helps, so what a great time to be into VR! That 4090 is a monster too for sure and I've thought long and hard about buying one even though I have a 3080ti. I'm hoping I can hold out until at least the 4090ti but time will tell. What I can tell you is that you are missing out on the larger FOV of the newer headsets, and also the edge to edge clearity of the aspheric lenses, which is kind of a big deal. It just makes everything more lifelike when everything is clearer. Now again is it worth 4x the price... well that is an individual decision, but I can say it does give a better experience than the G2. Anyway, I also wish HP had stayed in the VR Market because I would have liked to have seen what a G3 would have looked like. Who knows, maybe they will come back someday. Thanks for the comment, appreciate you watching our content.

@@GYGOtv I don't doubt that the improvements would be tangible. Look forward to those improvements trickling down to headsets that cost around £1000 in gen 4.

@@LowBlow For Sure... That is how it usually works, it's just hard for me to wait that long :) I think the Quest3 might get close and I'm expecting it to be around $799 but just a guess. I'm sure they will announce it during their Meta Connect, and I bet it will be in stores by Christmas this year. We will see.

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Thanks WhiteFlyingMondy, I will always be honest and you will get my true feelings on things... for right or wrong. I hope that is what people appreciate about GYGO. Appreciate the comment.

You don't need a fantastic comment here... Just the fact you return to the channel to see my content means a TON to me! Thanks for your viewership!

Yes, you will love it for racing. I plan to run some Dirt in it also to see how it goes. Thanks for the view and the comment!

@@GYGOtv I can't wait! I'm super sensitive to distortion which is what absolutely killed me with the Pimax and turned me off from the Aero but hearing it's been mostly sorted out I'm finally willing to give it a try!

@@ChrisQuitsReality Ya, I'd bet you won't even notice it when you are playing... probably only see it when you are just sitting in menus or something. Please let me know what your final take is when you get it.

@@GYGOtv will do!

Wow, that is quite the compliment! I think MRTV still has me beat, but to even be thought of in those terms means a lot! I will continue to do my best to continue to provide good content, and I hope you will continue to be a GYGO viewer. Thanks for watching!

Thank You for the SUB and the compliment! I'm glad you enjoyed it and hope you become a regular GYGO visitor.

Thanks for the comment derek, ya the Varjo won't be as easy as the Rift if that is your main concern. Some games are a challenge to figure out how to get working and some need a special qualifier tag to get running (like a " --force_steam_VR" or something similar after the executable). Once you figure out how everything needs to be configured it is easy to just launch from the icon... but the setup can be tricky. Also the Varjo uses steam as a foundation to run and then the varjo base runs over it so it is not as clean a setup but similar to running WMD and other programs like that. Anyway, if you willing to put the effort in, the Varjo is an AMAZING headset... but I totally get not wanting the Pain in the Ass factor that all this can be. Hope that helps, and if you do decide on an Aero, remember we are an affiliate if you don't mind using our link varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html

Thanks for the Sub Jacob and welcome to the channel! I think the Crystal is going to be the go to headset for anyone wanting the best VR experience for the foreseeable future. Just FYI, if you pre-order you will get the better audio for free. I've been talking to Pimax a little about all this and here is my affiliate code if you decide to pull the trigger and want to help the channel pimax.com/?ref=GYGO No pressure, just wanted to mention it. Hope you continue to enjoy our content!

Appreciate the view and the compliment. Plus you win for the first posted comment :)

It should work with the 2060 as that is the minimum spec they list. I would say, if you are currently running a HP Reverb G2, you can expect about the same performance from the Aero. Now once Dynamic Foveated Rendering is a thing, the 2060 should give you even better results. Thanks for stopping by and leaving a question.

Hi Richard, thank you for the compliment. If you look at the pinned update, you will see that positional audio works just fine. The problem was fixed with updated drivers for my audio headset. What I called "warping" is due to the lenses... they did fix all the "distortions" from the headset with software a long time ago. So enjoy your Aero and enjoy your Bose earbuds, those should work well. You will still need to add a microphone if your Bose earbuds don't have them and you want to talk to anyone.

@@GYGOtv is there a way to check my order from Varjo aero website? I did get an email with a order number but don’t see where you can go in a see order / delivery progress and it looks like the only way you can get in touch with them is by email. And I was looking for where you go and download the software

@@richardPalmisano I have no idea, I did mine a long time ago and not sure what their system is now.

Thanks for the comment David, ya and for the price the G2 is a pretty strong value proposition. The chromatic aberrations and distortion are not that bad and the design is comfortable even though it looks bulky it really isn't bad. Unfortunately I think most of the next gen headsets are all going to be in the $1000 to $2000 range, so I think the days of the G2 and Quest 2 might be over for awhile. Time will tell. Also, if the Crystal pulls off what they claim, it might be the perfect compromise for what you are looking for. But I wouldn't even think about buying one until you hear some independent reviews. Thanks for watching the channel!

Thanks for the Sub! I'll look into using that as I hate the black levels right now. But honestly they need to implement the local dimming so we get the best of both. I assume OpenXR does not do that?

How does that work with Open XR? Is that an app download?

Yes please tell us more about OpenXR!

Fourth try to answer. My answer disappeared every time. That is a separate free app. Search for it in the usual search machines or here on KZfaq. It is very easy and safe to setup.

@@4secsharkmr352 Wait, isn't that Windows Mixed Reality? Wouldn't that only apply to the G2?

Thanks Redtail, it is so hard to put into words this experience when you love to fly like we do! I'm so glad you are having a great experience and hope you get the chance to have more. If you can ever get to the point where you can add motion to your flight (assuming you don't have any yet), it will take the experience to an entirely new level all over again! Motion is just that cool when paired with the Awesome Aero! I haven't tried a discovery flight yet... so now I have something else to try so thanks for the great idea.

@@GYGOtv Absolutely! I'm still using the NLV3 seat mover for now. If I do finally take the plunge and upgrade to full motion, I'll keep you updated. Thanks for your time, effort, tips and advice! Great channel 👍🏾

@@redtailpilot Hey that is a good system, I love Next Level Products. Quick question back at you, is it weird with the HOTAS and rudder not moving with the seat? I've always wondered about that.

@@GYGOtv I can't say because I get so into the experience that I hardly pay attention lol. Probably weird after using something else, like your rig. I really only enjoy it in DCS at the moment. Not so much in MSFS or X-Plane.

This post single caused me to buy the Aero getting mine: Estimated delivery: Sep 29 - Oct 3, thank you!

Thanks for the comment Pauly, I totally understand where you are coming from. The Aero is an incredible experience (especially for sim racing), but honestly, the HP G2 gets you a pretty good experience at a fraction of the price. I think the Pimax 12K OLED has the potential to be THE HEADSET we have all been dreaming of, but I also think it will end up costing more than the Aero does. Give it time, this tech will become more common... and thus more affordable.

Hi Tobias, welcome to VR!!! You are right on the money as far as the sweet spot... with Fresnel you only get the clear image right in front of you. The aspherical lenses make that much better. Now the trade off is slight distortions and some chromatic aberration but I'll take that any day over the god rays and glare. As for the affiliate link, I am planning to do that, but I'm trying to find a way that I can give at least a small discount to anyone using my link. I'll probably have to take it out of my commission, but that is ok with me. If you are serious about using my affiliate, let me know and I'll try to fast track that so I don't hold you up. I really do think from what you describe that the Aero would make a big difference for you. Just know you will also need base stations so if you can, try to find an original vive setup because those lighthouses will work and they should be cheaper than buying new. Good luck!

@@GYGOtv I will try to get my hands on the Aero before buying it to see if the distortions would be too distracting for me (which I doubt). Regarding the affiliate link, that would be honestly great, no need to rush it just for me though. I still need to financially recover after recently buying the 3090 Ti :D

@@tobiasmarzell330 3090ti WHOO HOOO, awesome and I totally can relate!!!

Thanks for stopping by! Ya, I wouldn't recommend anyone make this purchase if it would at all put you in a financial strain. There will be similar tech in a few years that should be more "affordable". Honestly, it was a little out of my price range too... but I'm an idiot. :)

@@GYGOtv no you are an addicted enthusiast! That is different but understandable. I would do the same but my wife / family would kill or leave me as I would spent even more time in my gaming men’s cave with such a toy. ;(

Thanks so much for your feedback, I'm so glad to hear it was worth it for you! It's a very tough call for some folks but I agree with you 100%. The Varjobase software works so well and is easy to uses too. Thank you again for watching and leaving a comment.

If you use my affiliate link it helps the channel, either way hope you enjoy the headset. varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html

Thanks for visiting GYGO Anon! So where is your review? I would like to watch/read it! Lets hope all of us talking about how bright the panels are will inspire Varjo to look more seriously into local dimming.

Hello Gygo, it was not a real review I have sent to Varjo, but merely a summary of my impressions and issues with the Aero. So that Varjo would know at least what were my experiences with their headset (hoping that they could fix the blacklevel issue). I am still rather busy professionally and for me VR is more a sidestep to relax, so I have not really the time or the intent to make high quality video reviews like you do (good job by the way). Here a short summary of my experiences with the Aero: - There are the known issues of chromatic aberration and the warping at the edges, but those did not distract me anymore after a while. It seems the brain is rather quickly filtering that out and the warping issue is also mainly resolved after the latest distortion patch. - The fan is a real plus for me. I get always fogged lenses after a while in my other headsets (HP Reverb G1 and original Vive), but due to the fan that does not happen with the Aero. The fan noise is noticeable but not to the extend it is intrusive. - The lack of a real audio solution did not bother me. On the contrary I always use my own audio solution, I also did that with my other headsets as the audio in headsets is just mainstream. I don't expect to see any highend built in audio quality in headsets. For that you need a decent sound card/amplifier and a headphone with at least medium impedance (e.g. 200 ohm). The focus in headsets is mainly on the visuals, audio is just to personal/subjective for a headset company to invest in it. - The standard comfort of the Aero is fine, but I still ordered the Studioform counterweight strap which just makes it all more comfy (then there is no need anymore to tighten the knobs that much, so less pressure on the head due to a better balance of the weight). - The high resolution (no SDE anymore) and the end-to-end clarity are the gamechangers compared to the other headsets. As I am getting older (50+) and starting to have a little farsightedness (+1 presbyopia), but I still wanted to enjoy all this eye candy I also ordered a set of VR Optician lenses for my Aero. They fit well and work great (no negative side effects at all). - And then there are the already mentioned subpar blacklevels ... , for me just the major flaw of the Aero at the moment. I hope Varjo will tackle this as well as they did with the warping/distortion issue. We need to make Varjo aware that this is still a major shortcoming of their headset. At least for me but i assume for a lot of other people as well, so they will be convinced to implement local dimming (or at least let us change the backlight brightness ourselves). Of course the whole VR sensation is mainly a rather personal colored experience. For some people clarity is of main importance, for others it is FOV. Some get bothered by SDE and others not, and so on ... not to mention blacklevels ;) For me the purchase of the Varjo Aero was really worth it, although my bank account was a little bit stunned but survived :) For others it could be a different story. But having witnessed myself the stone age of computer science (70s-80s) it is just freaking amazing what we can already experience with VR at this moment, and that all just on our own home pc's. It is still not perfect, but I am not complaining. To be able to travel virtually the whole world in such a visual quality, and that from our own sofa, that is just mindblowing.

@@anonnexus117 100% Agree (well except for maybe the integrated audio... I like the convenience and am not an audiophile) so maybe 99% agree :) You and I share the same view on just about everything here so I'm so glad you were willing to take the time to leave such a detailed comment. I laughed at the whole "Stone Age" of computers because that is the same timeframe I grew up in (I'm 52). I still remember playing Flight Simulator II on my Commodore 64, and to think it went from that jerky wireframe representation of Chicago to feeling like you are actually flying through Chicago with today's modern technology is unbelievable progress. I'm kind of glad I grew up in the age I did to see this amazing evolution in PC technology. I totally get you on the VR as a relaxing hobby... That is how I started too. Be careful because look what happened to me :) Anyway appreciate your input and hope you stick around as a GYGO viewer!

@@GYGOtv Thank you for the reply. The whole technical evolution until now was indeed an exiting journey with some great milestones, VR certainly being one of them. I also subscribed to your channel, you deserve it. I will certainly keep an eye on it. Keep up the good work ;)

@@GYGOtv haha another stone-age C-64 flight sim guy here (I'm 56). I remember doing my first virtual flight lessons at Meigs, learning about traffic patterns, airspeed, Altitude, proper flap deployment stages, etc. We really have come a long way since then!

Thanks for the tip Robert, I'd love to try it but I don't have a roll of quarters left after buying the headset :) I'll look into those options if it gets too bad.

Hi Macbrowdog, Thanks for the Subscribe!!! That is Project Cars 2... an awesome simulator. You can see more of me racing in it on the first H6 Video ( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jN6ndriG37WlqXU.html ) at the 6:40 mark. Hope you enjoy!

Thanks so much for watching, really appreciate it!

Thanks for sharing that info! Just goes to show how important integrated audio is to some people. Now if Thingiverse could just make something so I could put OLED screens in the AERO, all problems solved right? :)

Ohhh, they’re super thick fans! For wind! Must be hella strong, lol

@@robertweekes5783 Yep, they are fans, and what makes them even "cooler"... see what I did there, is they change speed depending on how fast the vehicle is travelling. So in racing sims the faster you go, the more wind you feel. They also can "curb" the wind effect so when you are turning, the wind dies down on one side so it is kind of a stereo effect for wind. More info here if you are interested www.simracingstudio.com/product-page/srs-hurricane-power-wind-package which is their new updated version to what I have.

Hey Martin, thank you for the compliment and I'm glad you liked the review. From what I'm seeing in card reviews, the 4090 pairs very well with the Aero. People are getting smooth gameplay even out of DCS, Cyberpunk and other taxing games. I'm really seriously considering getting one. If you do pick up the Aero, remember I have an affiliate link that won't cost you anything extra to use. varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html

Hi Thomas, they are custom, built by the master fabricator himself. Here is the link to that part of our video talking about it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sNJ3hJZ_xJewcZs.html The arms are "Scotty Mounts" that work pretty good at holding it all together. Scotty Ball-Mount amzn.to/3v7RQve SRS Hurricane www.simracingstudio.com/product-page/srs-hurricane-power-wind-package Thanks for the question.

Hi Robin, sorry for the delay... this comment didn't show up on my notifications and I just found it. In general, glasses are always a risky proposition so contact lenses or prescription lens covers are preferred. That being said, it will honestly depend on your glasses. I think most "will fit" but as far as not scratching that may be a different story. I have a daily pair of glasses which is larger and a smaller "VR Pair" that I use in headsets. The larger pair fits, but it is tight and even pushes down on my nose a little. I predict these would scratch the lenses eventually. The smaller "VR Pair" have about a 1/4 inch of room between them and the Aero Lenses. I checked this when I first got the headset by wearing everything and grabbing the glasses frames and pushing them forward into the lenses while the Aero still had the protective plastic on the lenses. I've been using these for over a month now and I just checked and still no scratches on the lenses (knock on wood). One final note, I think the plastic collar around where the IR lights (for eyetracking) sticks out a little and may also provide a "stopper" for hitting the lenses in some cases but I wouldn't count on it. Be very diligent and just check your lenses regularly to catch any problems early. Obviously you don't want any scratches, but 1 scratch is better than 1000 scratches. Hope this helps and thanks for the compliment and the question.

@@GYGOtv Thank you so much for your reply, much appreciated!!!

Thanks again for the compliment, glad you are enjoying our content. Did you decide on a headset yet?

@@GYGOtv Yes I did, I will order the Valve Index Full Kit on 22 April. I took this decision because of the Larger FOV and most important because of the Lighthouses / Knuckles controllers. For example when I would want to upgrade in the near future I will already own the controllers and the BaseStations. Thanks again for your reviews! +1 Subscriber.

@@d3vilalex431 I think you will like that headset and as you say... You are ready for the next headset with all the goodies from the Index. Enjoy and let us know how you like it when you get it.

@@GYGOtv For sure I will!

​@@GYGOtv Hey , this message it's from the future ))So I bought the Valve Index Kit on 22 of April and It was delivered on 27 of April. Unfortunately Valve sent me a headset with rainbow vertical lines on the screen , in short terms is defective. Oh , Why Valve ? Why ?..... I created a Ticket to Steam Support and I'm waiting for more than 1 day for a reply......

Thanks for watching my review and leaving a comment. I think you would have to define "good choice". I agree probably not the best choice for Top Tier audio, but I'd say it is the best choice for convenience and comfort. Not having to fight with 2 separate pieces on your head is a lot easier and I have to say that after using "off ear", going back to headphones is a little claustrophobic feeling. Just my 2 cents.

@@GYGOtv thank you for your reply 🙂. i say its not a good choice for several reasons, the budget they would use for integrated audio is much better used for things like ventilation for example, the issue is emphasized even more when everyone can easily get far better choices than integrated audio, in sound quality and practicality, for very cheap prices. even if practicality is the priority, one can easily find great sounding earplugs, far better than limited and limiting integrated audio. and there s even more factors, integrated audio might even limit the positioning possibilities of the headset because of the different headshapes. it even also goes to the point that many people already have better audio at home. integrated audio is like a pretty package box, it might not look the best having a lame box that does the same job of a pretty box, but the company can spend that budget in a more important thing

@@jh5kl So this is what I love about my viewers, you guys are so knowledgeable and passionate about this kind of stuff. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and insights. I totally understand what you are saying and makes sense BUT for me, I hate the hassle of putting the headset on and then the audio (even if it is just putting in earbuds). Seems like I always forget and end up either yanking them out of my ears with the VR headset, or try to pull the VR headset off without taking the headphones off first. Might sound like a minor thing for most that I should just be able to get in the habit of doing correctly... but a pain for me none the less. I do endorse the idea of any integrated audio to be removable if desired by the end-user for the specific reasons you mention above. I just prefer to have the option for integrated audio for the convenience. Maybe the right answer is to have a version with, and one without to address your budgetary concerns? I guess in the end to each their own, and thank you again for your comment!

@@GYGOtv thank you for engaging with the viewers 🙂. i do recommend to go though the billion formats of audio options, i m sure you ll find one that suits you the best, people really underestimate the options available, its not just the number of brands, its the format options we have available. at this point there are already earplugs to use when sports training of really high sound quality, you don t need to take them out when putting or taking the vr headset, there s now even brands with some that work through bone conduction and not even in your ears, also used when swimming, some headsets also let you pass through the sound around so if a member of the family talks to you, you don t need to take them out

@@GYGOtv oh when i say budget i mean the budget for making the project, if the company decides to include audio in the product, they have to cut that from somewhere else

Hi MrJr, yes it is hard to describe how much that edge to edge clarity makes a difference but it sure does. I think the Quest 3 is going to be a worthy upgrade for almost all Quest 2 owners. The increased price is the only thing I can see an issue for some. Appreciate you taking time to watch and to comment.

@@GYGOtv In all honesty, $500 for all the stuff the headset will provide such as higher than 4k edge-to-edge screens, full color 3d passthrough, a better processor, 128gb of storage from the start, and a MANUAL IPD slider on top of so much else is such a good deal. A wireless 4k headset that is PC-compatible for $500 is an understandable increase. That's a gaming console in the modern era. MUCH better than the $3500 abomination that is the Apple headset. I've set things up so that basically all my media from VHS tapes to 4K 3D Blu-ray can be consumed through Bigscreen and with friends. I'm excited for the future of VR

Ya, I got the the G2 on sale for 450 but I actually returned it. The speakers were good, but for some reason too quiet (which is weird since my old Valve Index had the same speakers and were plenty loud). It was really annoying when playing BeatSaber or Ragnarock. I also had issues with a blue light around the edge in games like Skyrim with the v2 face gasket as well as some games being really glitchy like Mini Golf and Zenith (weird pop-ins etc) not to mention Steam Home just randomly going crazy and making me want to vomit, lol. I have a beefy PC too with a 3080 and 11700kf. So i went ahead and ordered the Aero. Really hoping it's as good as I'm hearing!

Good to know about WMR... I doubt I'll ever need to use it again but hopefully other viewers will find that helpful. I still think the G2 is a great piece of tech and really it gets you about 85% of the way to the Aero IMO. As for how warm... not warm at all from what I've noticed. I think that little fan in there keeps everything cool. I'll try to specifically feel how hot it is when I'm playing and let you know if I notice it being hot then. Thanks for the comment and sharing your info about WMR. I love the GYGO community... good people trying to help everyone else.

Just an update re: temps Jack. Flew around for several hours tonight and the headset never even really got warm to the touch. I think those fans do a good job keeping the heat down.

@@justaguydoinstuff How? I never turned up audio on my HP Reverb G2 V2 higher than 80% and I usually use it on 50-60%. It's pretty loud.

Thanks for viewing my content. I am running a 3080ti and AMD RYZEN 5900x. My full specs are always at the bottom of the description if you want more info.

Hi Amilcar, thanks for the comment and the view. My first video ever was my review of the VP2 (Vive Pro 2) and you can see it here if you haven't already (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLyUZbtk1tSZhYE.html) and as I mention it was close but the glare ruined it for me. I can see how racing it wouldn't be an issue so great point. I really noticed the performance deficit compared to the G2 so if perfkit helps that, that is great info as well. As for OLED, I'm still an OLED snob and will take OLED over LCD everytime... Hell I still use my original Vive Pro for roomscale and love it in spite of the lower resolution and Pentile pixel display. It will be interesting to hear what you think of the Aero compared to the VP2, so please let me know your thoughts when you get it. Varjo is working on a way for us to adjust the brightness so hopefully that will be working by the time you get yours... otherwise you are really going to notice the lack of black levels on the Aero compared to the VP2. Keep us posted, and thanks for watching!

@@GYGOtv Hello, thank you for your comment! I'm too a Oled snob, i have a 55" oled just to play MSFS at night and it is amazing. I hope there is a future oled Vr screen with suficient brightness kind like the new QD-OLED monitor's/tv's, brightness is important for the colours to pop up. You kind get me worried with "really going to notice the lack of black levels on the Aero compared to the VP2", if we can control the brightness maybe when can get better blacks!! I will give you feedback when i get mine, manly a feedback about simracing. i just flight for fun sometimes!!

@@amilcarcamacho9717 Don't worry, much like the glare problem with the VP2, you won't even notice the black levels in full daylight scenes when you are racing. The Aero simply looks amazing in most environments. If you do however go into nighttime scenes or space scenes that is where you will notice the difference. Again, racing in the Aero was the best experience I had in it and I bet you will love it too! Thanks again for the comments and the viewership!

I know, it is so hard to explain to people who are like "I'd NEVER spend that much on any headset"... When you get this kind of experience, it is kind of priceless for us flight sim enthusiasts. Glad I'm not the only one still giddy about spending 2k on this thing.

@@GYGOtv Yeah most of the ones complaining probably can't afford it. I'd never spend a couple of million on a private jet, because I can't afford it. They're clearly out of my league, so I dream on without bitching and moaning to people about how expensive they are LOL 🤣

@@redtailpilot LOL, yes by comparison to actually buying the private jet, the Aero is a GREAT value, look how many Jets you get to fly for $2000 and you don't even have to pay for the fuel! :)

@@GYGOtv true, but who said I don't have to pay for fuel? My sim pit runs on a mixture of Jet-A and 100LL 😂

@@redtailpilot LOL, I thought I was the only one with a gas powered sim rig :)... Just kidding, I switched to nuclear so I don't have to keep refilling it.

Hi M. Benicke, thanks for the comment. 50... such a young man, lol I just turned 53 so I feel your pain! So let me tell you my journey with Elite Dangerous (one of the reasons I got into VR way back when). I started with the old Headsets that had OLED screens, so "the void" was pitch black. It was awesome BUT of course the resolution was really bad. Then I went to the G2, and the resolution was better but then the blacks were more grey. THEN I went to the Aero and resolution was amazing but again the blacks were even more grey, so seems like the better the screen looks the greyer the blacks get. So with you starting with the Rift, I think you will likely see the same thing since, if memory serves, you have OLED screens in that as well. Now with all that out of the way lets talk about your situation. The problem with the G2, or pretty much any other headset out there except the Aero is that you will get Glare and Godrays in high contrast scenes, which there are a lot of in ED. I don't know if you have noticed them in the Rift or if they do not bother you but the awesome thing about the Aero is that glare and godrays are not an issue. The biggest thing however is that the Aero has the ability to dim the panels AND Varjo has told me they are going to at least add a brightness adjustment to the software. If/When they do that I think the Aero will be your best bet because you can dial down the brightness to your liking. And I can tell you the clarity is unmatched in that headset. So you could wait for the brightness adjustment, or if want to get onboard now (the Aero will work obviously with ED currently, and then you can hope that the brightness fix comes soon) that would be an option. Or you could wait to see if the Pimax 12K QLED might fit the bill better if it comes out at the end of the year. If I were you from what I can gather from your comment, I'd probably go for the Aero now, knowing the brightness will at least be adjustable in the future. Hope that helps, if you have any other questions please let me know.

Hi Brian, thanks for the compliment and the question. So funny that you are using the Vive Pro 1 wirelessly BECAUSE that is the main reason I won't use the Aero... I also run roomscale in my Vive Pro wirelessly and I don't want to be tethered again. Also, I REALLY like the black of OLED screens and I'd rather give up resolution for true blacks in roomscale games. The other reason I wouldn't recommend it for roomscale is, in general, roomscale VR doesn't really need the high clarity that sim games do... so to spend $2000 on a headset for that seems like a little too much for most people. Now by all means if you want (and can afford it) to use the Aero, please do... It will give you unmatched visuals, but you will notice the lack of blacks if you are coming from the OLED of the Vive Pro. I just don't think the $2k is the best use of money for most people in a roomscale only situation. I hope that answers your question and thanks again for being a viewer.

@@GYGOtv Thanks for the insight, I’m still on the fence about the Aero so might well hold off until the 4000 series GPUs are released. There might be some more headset options then, but if not the Aero will still be there!

@@brianbutterfield4660 Yes that is not a bad plan. I'm anxiously awaiting news of the Pimax 12k QLED. That could be the "must have" headset if they do it right. Your G2 will do just fine until then.

Thanks for watching AVGVSTVS! Currently I'd recommend a HP G2 for racing if you are on a budget and an AERO if you want the best experience. If you do choose an AERO, I'd appreciate you using our affiliate link in the description if you were just going to buy it direct. Let me know if you have any other questions and thanks for the compliment!

Appreciate the love Nick! Glad you are enjoying our content. Yes, your current base stations (and controllers) should work fine with the Aero. No need to buy anything new. I'm actually using the original V1 from the OG Vive and they work great. Coming from the Pro 2, I think you will LOVE the lack of Lens Glare and Godrays in the Aero. Let me know what you think if you decide to get one.

@@GYGOtv Thank you so much for replying. That is really good news. Yes, I'm a sim racer and want the overall clarity /depth that is lacking in the Pro2. I will keep in touch!

@@nickeakhurst2533 As you probably could tell in my video, using the Aero for racing was an absolute surprise how much it helped me and added to the enjoyment. Hope you have the same results if you get one!

Thanks for the question gyeltsen. I don't have a dedicated video on the lighthouse setup (because really it isn't that hard), but if you watch my Beginner VR video (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/opxhYNKi3sC-fGw.html) at 20 min and 10 sec it will give you the basics. If money is an issue, you can get by with a single basestation that will work pretty good for seated play. Or if you can find someone selling their original Vive from 2016 on ebay or something... those lighthouses and controllers will work fine with the Aero as well. Let me know if you have any other questions I can help you with, and thanks for watching!

Thanks for the comment KenX... You and I share those feelings for sure! I'm hopeful that QLED might work almost as good as OLED but I'll have to see it first. We will "see".

Thanks for the view and the comment qyzxger. I can understand your position, I just like the convince of having them all in one. To each their own... I think the "right" answer would be to have integrated that are removable for situations like yours... but then again that adds to the cost so what do I know :) I appreciate your view.

Thanks for the compliment. So Varjo Aero for sim stuff hands down, and actually the Vive Pro still for roomscale stuff. I just love the OLEDs and the Wireless of that headset. Not sure where the HP Reverb G2 fits into all this now to be honest. Great question and I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

The Pimax Crystal or if you really want a big FOV would be the Pimax 12k Qled might be good options. The Crystal should be releasing sometime this quarter (they are currently taking pre-orders pimax.com/crystal/ ) and it looks like a special until Jan. 3. So far the reviews I've seen look promising but Pimax has always been hit or miss so do your research.

@@GYGOtv Interesting, thanks!

Thanks for the tip doogie, that is a good idea, would seem to give you the best of both worlds. Although I don't really use the G2 that much anymore because the Aero is such a better experience for me.

@@GYGOtv I use VR Optician one for the Aero. It is really well built. I have moved the G2 to my gaming laptop now. But I am still switching between the 8K X and the Aero. Fingers crossed PIMAX get things right with the 12K but I am not holding my breath :)

@@doggiehowzer How easy do the lenses go on and off... I have other people that try my Aero from time to time

@@GYGOtv it’s not that convenient. I had to take the face gasket off first before fitting it. Only the Quest 2 ones come with a magnet so it’s super easy barely an inconvenience.

@@doggiehowzer Yep, that has been why I haven't used them in the past. I have to admit, the Crystal's removable lenses just got more interesting with their magnet system. Love the "Super Easy, Barely an Inconvenience" btw Mr. George.

Well I hope this video helped you make that decision, or at least confirmed you made the correct choice. The HP G2 is an amazing value, as I mentioned in the video and I still think it is the right choice for the majority who want good quality but are not Uber-Enthusiasts. Appreciate the view and the comment!

non integrated audio is by far the best option

@@jh5kl why so? Is it because you dont need to pay more and can use your own better audio

@@jay9392 i say this because of many factors, the company can use that budget on other things, like for example ventilation like they have, instead of integrated audio, because everyone can easily get a far better audio solution at a ridiculous low price, even more, good audio is so common nowadays that most even already have better audio at home, so why should the company spend budget in something we can so easily get better and many already have at home, when the company can spent that budget in other better things for the vr experience?

I'll do my best to keep the quality content coming. Got some changes coming to the channel very soon (in a good way I think). Appreciate the comments and the compliments. Thanks for being a GYGO viewer! p.s. I think someday we will get back to OLED or at least something close... maybe the Pimax QLEDs will be a good compromise. Time will tell.

Thanks for making me feel guilty Tim, just kidding I keep "making myself a little more broke" all the time anymore. You could wait to see what the Pimax Crystal is going to be like if you don't want to mess with all the light houses and stuff kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mOCbnL1irtOxoKc.html we should start seeing reviews from normal people sometime fairly soon so you wouldn't have to wait too long. But either way, you wallet will hate me, so sorry about that but thanks for watching!

@@GYGOtv first off thanks for the reply. And second I thought the Crystal was due for 3th quarter or is the release date much sooner than I think

@@timbosse1634 Yep 3rd quarter is correct but that means you should start seeing them in the hands of the reviewers in the next couple months I'd guess. That might be worth waiting just to see what people think since it doesn't need lighthouse tracking. As for release, knowing Pimax, I'd guess the release date will be Oct./Nov. timeframe because they are always delayed.

@@GYGOtv thanks for the reply, I have been looking at the info already known bij the reviewers. What worries me most is that it looks like it is trying do do everything, and like cars, if you try to be good at everything you will never be really good at one thing. But I could be wrong

@@timbosse1634 Ya I think that is what everyone is worried about on the Pimax headsets... Especially the 12k QLED, that looks to be the best of everything. I think your fears are exactly why we are all waiting to get independent reviews of these things when they get released.

I couldn't agree more 59768! OLED would be the biggest thing for me. Hope they stay in the consumer space too!

Agreed! Same here. For me, I would like a huge bump in FOV. That's always the deal killer for me

Thanks for watching the channel patrones, so from my experience the Varjo Aero will give you the same, if not better performance than you are currently getting in your G2. The Varjo Base software is optimized to the point where it runs the headset as well as a HP G2 even though the Aero is higher resolution. Additionally with the Aero's eye tracking, you can maximize performance even more if you use Dynamic Foveated Rendering. If you do decide to purchase the Aero and want to help the channel, please use our affiliate link varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html Thanks for your support!

@@GYGOtvThank you very much friend, I think I'm going to buy the varjo, if you could help me with one last question I would appreciate it. Does Varjo work with a single base station 2.0 or do I need to have two and hand controls? I only use it in SimRacing

@@patrones6024Hi patrones, great to hear back from you. For Sim Racing you probably would be fine with one basestation mounted in front, you might lose tracking if you turn your head completely around to look 180 behind you, but I doubt you will be doing that much (that is what mirrors are for right?). Anyway, you could always start with a single base station and then if you find you are having trouble, you can add the second one later. Also keep in mind the Aero works just fine with v1.0 base stations as well so no need for the v2.0 if you want to save a few bucks. v2.0s big advantage was you could pair more than 2 in a room, which you don't need. I'm still running v1.0 and they work great. As for controllers, if you have access to your mouse and keyboard you will probably be fine without them. When I'm using the Aero, I don't use controllers because I can access the menu with the side button on the headset. If you would like to also support the channel with your purchase, please use our affiliate link varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html it doesn't cost you anything extra to use it. Let me know if you have any other questions, and congrats on your VR Upgrade!

@@GYGOtv Once again I just have to thank you, you are very kind and your videos are spectacular. I liked this tip from base 1.0 so I can save money. I have the G2 and I'm passionate about VR, I think it was the best I've used to date, do you believe that the VRJ will leave you amazed as if it were a new experience or is it not that superior than the G2? I already saved your link

@@patrones6024I think what will likely amaze you is when you finally see edge to edge clarity. It just makes everything feel that much more real AND it really impacts Sim Racing as you can now glance around with your eyes instead of moving your head around to keep it clear. Also, the Horizontal FOV is wider than the G2 so that will probably help as well. Of course, your experience may vary so please come back and let me know what you think once you try it out. I know I can't go back to Fresnel lenses now that I've see the clarity from the new designs.

Thanks for the question Zoltan. So I have a 3080ti and my Aero consistently performs better than my Reverb G2 (v1), so that is the only data point I can give you from personal experience. I don't know if the other reviewers bumped things up or changed settings, but I kept mine the same and had easily 2 to 3 frames per second better with the Aero. I've also only ever used 2 base stations with my setup, but theoretically if you have just one, it should work fine... the only time I would expect you could run into issues is if you look directly behind you. You might loose tracking then with only one base station. You could always start with one and then if it doesn't work, you can easily add the second one. The best news however is Aero is running a Black Friday deal right now so if you do decide to purchase the Aero, please use my affiliate link for it, it would be much appreciated. varjo.idevaffiliate.com/111.html I can tell you the Aero is the best VR racing experience I've ever had. Thanks for watching!

@@GYGOtv thanks! Does Aero work with OpenXR? I experienced openXR give better performance then openVR.

@@basiccamaro Yes, the Varjo Base Software has on/off switches to turn on both OpenXR and OpenVR compatibility. I still use OpenVR for my steam games but have used OpenXR for MSFS2020.

Hey J M... Here is a quick screen grab, but fair warning I haven't really done any tweaking on any of this. I've been working on the motion platform mostly. If these don't work, go check out VR Flight Sim Guy www.youtube.com/@VRFlightSimGuy , I know he does lots of videos talking about settings for MSFS2020. He would be a bigger help than me at the moment. I hope these work out for you. drive.google.com/file/d/1qoZ4iSB8NgIqDWjEmuqUC0ClpMs-z4ff/view?usp=sharing Happy New Year!

@@GYGOtv Thank you so much for this!!

Thanks for the comment. I don't think Meta will get into the aspheric lens market... too many challenges to overcome and they are more on the "mass market" side of things making headsets for the "masses" instead of us enthusiasts. I bet Meta focuses more on the social stuff like face and body tracking rather than improving the visuals to this level. I think more likely a new company or even Varjo themselves might be the first to develop an "affordable" version of this tech. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks for the Sub Steve, also appreciate the comments. SO for room scale I can't go back to a tethered experience after being wireless so that is the main reason I don't use the Aero for roomscale. I still have my Ol' Vive Pro that I use for that. Consequently I have not used the Aero in Alyx. SO here are my thoughts and again I'm sure many people will disagree which is fine. SO most roomscale games don't require the high resolution capability of the Aero. Really you only need that high resolution for reading gauges in a cockpit IMO. Would that resolution be nice, sure but the trade off for that which I won't make is you have to use LCD backlit panels which can't produce the BLACK blacks of an OLED screen. Roomscale games like Alyx have a lot more dark areas in them so I think the lower resolution OLED panels (especially if wireless) give a better experience in roomscale than the High Resolution LCD panels found in most modern headsets (Again this is all my opinion). The answer may be coming in the new Pimax headsets (the 12k QLED and the Crystal kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nrZjbLCh2pariYU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mOCbnL1irtOxoKc.html) that will use QLED panels with "Local Dimming" which might give us the best of both worlds if they deliver what they are promising (A big if based on Pimax's history). The QLED might give us the higher resolution with the ability for the dark areas to be near OLED black level. The Crystal is supposed to launch Q3 of this year which is basically now, and the 12K is supposed to launch by year end... But I have my doubts on both. As a bonus, both claim to be wireless capable so really these will be the headsets that check all the boxes IF they pull it off. Time will tell, but might be worth waiting a few more months to find out. Anyway, I hope that helps you with your decision making process. If you have any other questions, just let me know and I'll do my best to answer them. Appreciate you watching GYGO!!!

@@GYGOtv Thanks mate, much appreciated. I personally prefer wired over wireless if given a choice even if it means some inconvenience, but I respect your opinion. Thanks for the heads up regarding the soon to be released headsets. Considering i'm at the very start of this journey, and need to spend $$$ for new GPU, base stations, controllers & headset I'm certainly in no rush and am ready to wait 6+ months to see what's around the corner. Will keep researching and building that anticipation in the meantime. :)

@@greenjoyce3001 No problem Steve, glad to help. If you want to start to get a taste, you can try to find an HP G2 on sale just so you can get your feet wet and try it out. I still think the G2 is one of the best values out there and I've seen it as low as $400 which is a steal. It doesn't need basestations or anything extra other than the computer so might be a good "gateway drug" for you while we wait to see what the new headset offerings are going to be. Also, with the new 4000 series video cards coming out soon, keep an eye out for deals on 3080ti's or 3090's if you are trying to save a few bucks. Those cards are good enough to run most VR except the most demanding titles like Flight Sims, etc. at high resolution. Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.

Unfortunately I haven't tried a Pimax, but I have heard that the image quality isn't even as good as the HP Reverb G2, and clarity is where my preference is. That super wide field of view might be more of an advantage competing than the full lens clarity but I don't know. I think the clarity would still win over the wide FOV for me as far as making it feel more "realistic" and the immersion is what I'm after. Now if the Pimax 12k QLED actually delivers... we might get both clarity and wide FOV. Time will tell.

I sold my 8kx to help pay for my soon to arrive Aero. Wide FOV was nice, especially in DCS, but I'm a pilot. I'll take clarity above FOV any day!

In fact, one of the first things you learn in flight school is, NOT to depend on your FOV, but to keep your head on a swivel (to avoid a deadly midair collision). Especially in the traffic pattern and anytime you're in VMC conditions (VFR or IFR). So wide FOV isn't everything that gamers make it out to be lol. Probably more important in Sim Racing though, since you're rubbing paint with other cars 😆

Yes SargonDragon, if you do ever get to try the Aero, please let us know your thoughts on how it compares to the 8KX for racing. I'd love to know your thoughts.

Thanks for watching! You can use either the old Steam Wands or Index Controllers. If you can find someone selling the old original Vive, those Wands will work just as well as the new ones. Honestly, you MIGHT be able to get by without controllers if you have access to a mouse instead. I've only used my controllers a half dozen times because I can do almost everything I need to now with the mouse and the buttons on the side of the headset. Hope that helps.

@@GYGOtv Appreciate it man ! thank you so much for the kind reply !

Great comment dtz, I couldn't agree more! The PSVR2 at 2000x2040 per eye should get you close to the HP G2 experience and much better than the old OLED headsets of the past. I'm also curious about how well QLED screens will look with their local dimming ability, could be the perfect compromise between OLED and Higher Resolution LCD. Come on Pimax 12k, don't let us down... we are all counting on you!

"The most memorable moments I've had in VR were with OLED displays.." Exactly! Sitting in a space ship and looking left and right, at 2 am in the morning, is about as freaky as I've seen of anything. I still prefer my older OLED headsets over the G2, which I currently have but gets no use.

@@mikem.2078 I remember in Elite Dangerous when I first got the Vive Pro... I just parked in a mining location in an asteroid field and just physically laid on the floor looking out the sunroof of my Fer de Lance just watching the ships and the rocks float by. Was soooo cool!

@@GYGOtv Haha, can totally imagine. I've done similar things as well.

Thi John, is this without the frame extender in use or still with it on the new G2?

I agree with you Robert, especially for new users. I tell you also having access to the menu from the headset has been a dream, I forgot how much I missed having that feature. Thanks for the comment and the view!

Yep, I've heard it is much easier if you bypass that stuff. I just love the controls all being on the headset is all... I really liked that about the Vive Pro, and the Aero does it too. Just my personal preference.

Congrats on the purchase Jimmy, that is a GREAT price for that headset. Glad you are enjoying it!

@@GYGOtv it's incredible and now I'm the guy trying to get all his friends to go VR, haha. I primarily got it for MSFS 2020, but now I think I might get an entry level wheel and get back into racing sims as well.

@@jimmy8x541 Be very careful, the next thing you know you will be buying a motion platform too :) Sim Racing is pretty cool in VR and you got a great headset for it! Enjoy!

@@GYGOtv To be a sim gamer is to stand atop a many sided pyramid, and each side is yet another slippery slope XD

@@jimmy8x541 That may be THE best description of all this that I've heard... well said!

Yes, I'm hearing good things about the Crystal. If you get one, let us know what you think.

Great question Tronpoid, thanks for watching our stuff! This is a tough one, my gut instinct is to say the HP G2 because I still think it is the best value for clarity. but if you had problems with the Quest 2, I think you would have the same results with the HP because they both max the IPD at 68. SO I think you might look into a Vive Pro 2, as long as you don't mind the glare in high contrast scenes (see my review here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLyUZbtk1tSZhYE.html). It has a max IPD of 70, so a little closer. By comparison, I'm an IPD of 69.5 so I'm 1.5 out of range on the HP G2, and you would be a little worse off than that at 2 out (72 vs.70) in the VP2. For what it's worth, at 1.5 out of range it isn't too bad for me. Your other option is to look into a Pimax and see if one of those headsets fit your budget and feature-set. All the Pimax headsets go out to an IPD of 72. You will need lighthouses for tracking for either the Vive Pro 2 or any of the Pimax headsets. Do some additional research if you are leaning toward Pimax because I do know a lot of people have problems with the distortion on the 200 degree settings, so the Artisan might be a good option if you want to avoid that. Hope that at least gives you a direction to go.

@@GYGOtv Thanks so much for such a helpful response. The Artisan seems an interesting option, I'm researching that, a vive pro v1(the pro v2 seems too costly given the things you mention in your video on it) and an Odyssey+ at the moment, as all of them can do 72 IPD and should be a visual upgrade. I only have an RTX 2060 12 GB version in my PC so I feel I may be pushing it with some of the highest res headsets.

@@RHLson Glad to help. Here is a website that might make your life a little easier ( vr-compare.com ). If you are going back as far as the Odyssey+, you might also look at a Vive Pro (original). It will do a 72IPD, and I still use mine for roomscale. I LOVE the OLED screens. I didn't realize you were willing to go back that far. Good Luck and let me know what you decide.

@@GYGOtv Thanks that website was super useful. I actually had my IPD double checked at the optician and it was 71 not 72. From researching the website you provided I've bought a used quest which has a bigger IPD than the quest 2 which my gtx 3060 (not 2060 typo on my part) is running no problem. Its 1440x1600 per eye vs my Vives 1080x1200 and I'm using it wirelessly through my 5GHz wifi. Cheap and still an enjoyable upgrade being better resolution and wireless roomscale! Many thanks.

@@RHLson Glad I could help and it worked out. If you ever find you have too much money in your pocket... this might be a good next option kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mOCbnL1irtOxoKc.html It is wireless and also does not need the lighthouses!

Yep sure does, and it is working in DCS. But even without it, the performance from the Varjo Base software was better than other headsets... DFR only makes it even better. Appreciate the question.

I do wear glasses, and have been very careful to make sure they are not rubbing on the lenses, so far so good. I'd say yes you could do the prescription lenses, would be a lot more protective of the VR lenses themselves that way. Fogging generally isn't an issue for me in the Aero because of the little fan that keeps the air moving in the headset. So as long as your glasses are small, I think you could go either way with that. Thanks for the question.

Thanks for the question Iain. Better clarity and a lot more. The video goes into all the details, do you have any specific questions that I didn't cover in the video?

Thanks for the comment. Interesting, I actually had the DK2 and I know the one I had was Aspheric because I remember taking them out and looking at them. vrtifacts.com/oculus-dk2-lens-characteristics/ Maybe there were 2 versions of the DK2? Anyway I forgot about the Samsung Gear VR, thanks for mentioning it and thanks for watching my content.

Hi Ben, thanks for the question. I don't specifically know about the Astro A50, but I'd assume it would still be the same result. When you are wireless, the computer is sending the audio and there is no way for it to know how to pan the sound other than as if you are staring at your monitor from directly in front of it, it doesn't really know where you are looking in VR. When you use the 3.5mm jack, then the Aero is controlling the sound from the game and it can tell which way your head is turned. I tested this out several times and this was repeatedly the case for me. To be honest, most other reviewers probably didn't notice or didn't care because it is a pretty subtle thing. I'd love to hear if other people are experiencing this, but I know I am, so please sound off with what you find out. As for not using it for roomscale... a couple things. First off the horrible black levels would ruin it for me... again I'm an OLED Snob and most of my roomscale games take place in dark environments. I still use my Original Vive Pro for roomscale because it has OLED and I'll trade the clarity for the pitch black darks in that situation. Most roomscale games don't need the clarity that you need in an aircraft or racecar to read the gauges. Would the clarity be nice... sure but not enough to give up the black levels. Also a big one is my Vive Pro is wireless and once you go wireless it is really hard to be tethered to the computer again. Again this is a personal preference, but those are my reasons. Hope that answers your question and thanks again for the view and compliment.

@@GYGOtv Interesting...I wonder if it may be your headset since I currently have a 5.1 surround setup for my flatscreen monitor and when I move in the game, the sound moves around me too, so I would think it would be the same with the headphones since the sound should be tracking your character in game regardless of the speaker setup. I have a Quest 2 currently that I think I'll try the Astro's with tonight and test it out. I'm quite an audiophile so that would bother me too if it doesn't work the way it's supposed to when I receive my Aero. As far as room scale, ya I got pretty used to the Quest2 wireless but I think the clarity will outweigh that. As you said in your video, Varjo is supposed to be updating the software to include the ability to turn off pixels for much better black levels but hasn't happened yet. I'm pretty confident they will since they are releasing an update this month to use dynamic foveated rendering for MSFS, which would be a first for the industry, so it appears they're dedicated to improving it on a regular basis. Hopefully they do it soon!

​@@justaguydoinstuff This is what I love about my viewers, you guys are so smart! After reading your comment It made me think more about the issue and it possibly being a wireless headset issue. So I spent the morning going back and testing everything again. I can verify I wasn't getting positional audio in DCS but then focused in on the wireless headset software. I did a reinstall of the software and then made sure the audio was on positional sound and not just stereo like you mentioned. Guess what, I now have positional audio wirelessly. So I think I know why no other reviewers have had this issue... They obviously do a better job of keeping their drivers and software up to date. Thank you so much Ben for bringing this to my attention. The most important thing is that my viewers get correct information, and your comment certainly will help with that. I'm pinning an update regarding this issue so thanks again Ben!

@@GYGOtv Oh good! Glad I could help! :)