Not yet... I have everything here to do it, just need to get off my lazy ass and get it done. Just a lot to set up because I want to film it all and put it on the channel too so its a little more than just popping the diodes in. It is on my to do list for sure, hopefully in the next couple months at least. Thanks for asking about it, you are keeping me honest! And just to be clear, the fix isn't really for the juddering or the "cogging" it is a rebounding that the motors do sometimes... feels more like bottoming out a vehicle in a rut kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMpllKafqay2iX0.html

​​@@GYGOtv ah yea that's a better term. Rebounding. I'm wondering if the upcoming gear box upgrade will handle both scenarios. Though I don't know that I feel the cogging

Thank you very much for the kind words, means a lot coming from one of the KZfaq Stars in our industry. Yep, it looks like I'm the only one that saw this so I wonder if it was just not adjusted right, a bad software glitch or what... but it was certainly there for me. I know Artur's IPD is like 64 and mine is wide at 69.5... I wonder if that has anything to do with it? Would love to get you on the channel for an interview someday if you are game, and if there is anything I can ever do for you, just ask. Appreciate you stopping by GYGO and watching our stuff.

This might be the right choice then... the Mixed Reality looks like it is implemented well in the VR1 and the pass through cameras looked good for the brief time I got to see "thru" them.

You are welcome, and I agree with you that they will continue to refine the software just like Varjo did. Please do let me know what you think... I'm specifically interested in the Black Levels and how well the Local Dimming really works. Artur and I discussed a lot more on the call and people seem to be interested in the whole thing so I'm planning to upload the entire interview next week. Thanks for watching and good luck on your VR1!

I can understand your concern but the "feeling" I get from Somnium is 180 degrees from what I "feel" from Pimax. As you said, there is no track record but I'm willing to bet that years from now Somnium will NOT be viewed the same as Pimax and I do think they will do what is right. As for me being "afraid" to say something... that is from my own personal sense of fairness and honesty, certainly not from any concerns about repercussions from Somnium. Thank you for your well written and thought out comment, I hope it provides good feedback to Artur and the team.

Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.

@farmertrueVR How is my favorite Twitch Streamer Doing??? Miss gaming with you buddy... I'll try to jump back on one of these Fridays so we can dispatch some bad guys! Thanks for the comment... it was a great overall headset I just have to see if I can figure out why I was having this unique issue. Thanks for the kind words and as always thanks for watching!

Ya I wonder if it is just video compression, I saw that too but can't tell. Thru-The-Lens can be deceiving as well... I learned that doing it for my Varjo Aero.

ABSOLUTELY if you are looking for the Aero Experience with more FOV I think this is it. I think this is a perfect upgrade from the Aero because the visuals felt very much like the Aero only with a bigger FOV. For me however I need more than that. After the promise that Pimax made of their "amazing" local dimming (being very close to OLED and failing to deliver), I basically have decided I won't buy another VR Headset that isn't OLED behind Aspheric Lenses! NOW Artur has told me the Somnium Local Dimming will give me the OLED experience and NO GLARE (we talk about it in our extended interview that I will post next week). IF this headset delivers on that, I will be throwing my money at the computer screen as fast as I can (assuming this warping issue doesn't continue for me). I miss my Black Blacks so much when night flying so I've been waiting for this since I stopped using my Vive Pro many years ago. Hope that answers your question.

@@GYGOtv Yessir it does thank you

Boy you can say that again... If it wasn't so blatantly apparent to me, I'd probably start feeling gaslighted about now BUT I know what I saw and it was very noticeable for sure. I feel a little better because somebody pointed out that SadlyItsBradley saw a similar issue only his were full vertical lines instead of just a spot kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7RgoMiX2KzOaZ8.html so maybe this has something to do with that? I'm hoping I can try the headset again just to find out if it was just that one headset I had issues with, if it was the way it was on my head or maybe a software setting. In the end I'd at least like to know I gave the Somnium VR1 a fair chance. Thanks for the comment.

@@GYGOtv Bradleys issues were caused by prototype lenses and it was in December so warping version was also old.

@@artursychovcould this be a similar issue just on a smaller scale?

Ya and it sounds like we can adjust just about every aspect in the software settings too! That is why I wanted so much to love this experience... the headset is ticking all the boxes for me. Thanks for the comment.

@GYGOtv yeah thats pretty cool as assumptions regarding lens distortion profiles being perfect and stable location of lenses matters with these setups, so a great move, build quality looks excellent

Hi @fredsas12... are you calling me old? :) Just kidding... great point EXCEPT I was using single vision lenses. I've tried the multi-focal lenses you talk about and hate them... to me they don't work well either way and I just get bad vision up close and at distance. I've also tried both near-vision and far-vision single vision lenses in VR to see which worked, and the far distance correction was the answer. VR Headsets are usually set to a focal distance of about 4 feet if my memory serves correctly. Anyway, great thought but that wasn't it. Appreciate the comment and you watching our stuff.

@@GYGOtv Haha. Not at all. I'm an old gen X-er myself, though one probably couldn't tell by looking at me. Cheers

@@fredsas12 Hey us Old Guys have to stick together... these young guns are hard to keep up with anymore.

Hi @Szabby999, I would for one, if it truly has OLED quality blacks and no glare then sign me up. I've been looking for that since they quit putting OLED in headsets. The Apple Vision Pro is not a gaming headset, and the Crystal Super will still either use the current QLED which don't get dark enough with their local dimming, or you can go with their OLED which will use Pancake lenses that will be full of glare! Not to mention, nobody has tried the Super yet and lets just say Pimax has a STRONG HISTORY of over promising and under delivering. Also, if you haven't ever had to deal with Pimax Customer Service, let me tell you it SUCKS! Anyway, we will see what happens but I certainly would be a customer if the headset can deliver my black levels that I want. Thanks for watching.

@@GYGOtv I appreciate your answer, but I don't really get your point. I recommend you let's talk about facts instead of subjective assumptions of yours (no offence of course): 1. Thanks, I'm fully aware that Apple Vision Pro is not a PCVR headset... The reason I mentioned it was solely it's enormous PRICE and nothing else, as you see in my text. 2. Somnium VR1: 2880x2880, 35 PPD, 125 horizontal FOV, QLED display, ~850g weight, price *3120* eur + VAT Crystal Super: 3840x3840, 50-57 PPD, 130 horizontal FOV, QLED OR OLED display, ~500g weight, price *1670* eur + VAT These above are solid facts. With Super you will get double the specs for half the price of Somnium. So tell me, what justifies the 3120 eur price tag? No way you can objectively justify this insane price gap with anything rational in favor of Somnium. 3. You write Super's OLED will be full of glare, however you have not seen it yet. Besides, if you really think Somnium's QLED will give you better blacks than Super's OLED then you are in a delusion. 4. The base model of Somnium VR1 (with no eye tracking) will cost 1900 eur, and DOES NOT include controllers (+300 eur) and base stations (+320 eur) = 2520 eur. Now the exact SAME specs you get from Pimax Crystal Light for 899 eur. Crystal Light is already out, it is a real product and gets great reviews and you get it for 1600 eur LESS price than Somnium. So again, who will buy Somnium, who will pay 1600 eur more for the same thing? Even if Somnium would have slightly better blacks or slightly sharper image quality. The gap is marginal enough that people will not pay 1620 euros more. 5. Regardless of specs or experience, my solid opinion is that you can NOT sell a PCVR headset profitably for 3120 eur + VAT. You just can't, because people won't buy it.

@@GYGOtv I really appreciate how you communicate in a straight way about your experience and perspective. Since I've ordered a VR1, I'm hoping it meets all the high expectations that have been set for it. Artur's passion for and confidence in the product is obvious and certainly helped my order happen - in spite of the price, 1 year warranty in the U.S., and lack of audio (at least at launch).

@@DMan-ud6bt Ya I was really concerned about the Audio, but when Artur explained that you should be able to create a mount for just about any current audio solution my mind immediately went to figuring out how to mount my HP G2 strap to the VR1. I loved that strap and the audio is second to none. Please let me know your thoughts when you get yours.

@@GYGOtv And why did you delete the answer I wrote you on this comment of yours?

Thanks for the comment @Lucas_Pit. I hadn't thought of that at all and that is certainly something to consider, well done my friend! The only thing I question is that it seemed to be both eyes instead of just one and the odds of getting a water droplet in the exact same spot on both lenses would be pretty amazing. However, maybe my brain was just "seeing it" in both eyes as I didn't have time to thoroughly test it conclusively. I like your hypothesis and makes me feel a little less crazy :) Thanks for sharing your ideas.

Yes I saw that too... I'm just not sure if that is video compression from the phone or the effect I was talking about. Artur sent that to me and I'd imagine he looked closely at it first, but I see what you are talking about for sure.

@@GYGOtv Edited: It does look like video compression. I thought that as a similar way to describe what I see too. However, it only seems to occur in that one area of the video screen and always at those specific spots in the background of the VR scene. So that should rule out video compression though it still could be. Always good to test multiple times. The lighting and shadow changes of the scenery and the way the lens bend light seemed like a more likely cause if it wasn't compression is what I was thinking when trying to figure it out. But it could even be the VR environment glitching at those angles?

@@SeohnAranys Yes hard to say without the original video... Thru the Lens can also be misleading as I learned trying to do my Varjo Aero video. Maybe I'll get the chance to test this out again someday in the future and come up with a more definitive answer. Time will tell.

Thank you for watching! Appreciate the comment as well. Glad you enjoyed it.

Thanks DMan, I really try to be fair and honest in everything I do. Looks like a few of you want to see the full interview so I'll look at putting that together for you all.

Awesome, thanks for letting me know... get a few more requests and I'll do it.

It was awesome... I've been to some of the big stuff and this was more busy for our booth than anything like PRI was LOL.

Ya but Artur checked the lens with the camera and it looked ok? Felt more like a software thing to me, like a distortion correction error, especially since I saw it with both eyes. Great suggestion however, and I guess I can't rule out anything at this point.

@@GYGOtv ooh for sure..please keep me posted especially you get to try another Headset from the company.. appreciate you 😁

@@Simmymind360 I appreciate all of you watching our stuff! If Artur is able to eventually send one my way, you can be sure I'll try to get it all sorted out and report back to you all!

I know, his enthusiasm is contagious! Thanks for watching Joe.

PUPIL SWIM... I think that was the word I was looking for when I was in the headset, THANK YOU. Not really the effect I had on the floor however because it was more fixed in the headset and not contingent on moving my eyes around... Does that sound right?

I believe sadlyitsbradley had this issue right?

@@girdsy9971 I don't remember... I know its been awhile since I watched his... I'll go back and take a look.

@@girdsy9971 Went back and watched... So Brad saw a full vertical line vs. I saw more of a spot but it sounded like the same type of issue to me! I guess I'm in good company if Brad saw something similar because I know he may be even more picky than I am... and that is saying something! Appreciate you reminding me of that, maybe I'm not going crazy after all?

@@GYGOtv Pupil Swim is fixed in the lens like you describe, and would be noticeable when panning over a grid-like surface like the wood floor. Your visual recreation of it is very accurate from memory. You see it when moving your head around. It is a physical lens imperfection. The name for it is because it mimics a floater in your eye, but it's not contingent on moving your eyes around.

Thanks for the comment, lets see if Artur responds to it.

We have a normal warranty policy of 1 year in US and 2 years in EU. Even if we allow “no reason” 14 day return from US to our European factory, customer would have to pay many hundred of $$$ for shipping fees and customs. We might do it in the future but I personally doubt people would want to do it. And we are consulting it with our lawyers currently

@@artursychov Thanks for the reply Artur!

@@artursychov A premium(expensive) AV product should come with premium service. Eizo gives 5 years warranty on all their monitors, Epson gives 5 years warranty on their laser projector's, good speaker brands give 5 or even 10 year warranty, even a cheap motherboard comes with 3 to 4 year's warranty these days. So in my opinion 1 or even 2 years warranty is not normal. It's also not normal that Varjo had such a terrible service, it's not an argument that they do this too. And why do US customers get a worse service/only half of the warranty compared to EU Customers? Because the law allows it? That shouldn't be an argument, they pay the same so they should get the same service. Regarding returns: It should be up to the customer to pay the customs/VAT if they want to deal with that, you should give them the possibility to return it. VR is(as you also say in the video) a highly subjective experience, no matter what, it should be possible to try and return it. Or give people the option to get a demo unit to try before purchasing? I love your product and passion, but in my opinion you haven't thought about these subjects well enough. At a price range of up to 5000 euros/dollars including tax such services should be a basic part of your company. You're dealing with consumers here, they simply expect a good and fair/equal service at such a price range. It will boost your sales dramatically, I am sure of that and we all want you to succeed!

@@turbohenk702 As someone who has ordered a VR1 to the U.S. and has also had experience with long, great warranties on other products, I definitely agree with you here. I trust that Artur and the rest of the Somnium team have put a lot of thought and effort into their design and QC processes, but a good warranty and great customer service are the things that make customers feel more at ease and keep them coming back for more over time.

Maybe, but my contacts work in all my other VR headsets? And it wasn't a blurry thing... it was a specific graphic anomaly.

@@GYGOtv Yes, this hypothesis makes sense (if any) only if VR1 focus distance distinctly differs from other headsets. More experimenting is wanted for how those artifacts change with varying distance between eyes and lenses.

@@blekenbleu Hopefully I'll get to try it again to either confirm or dispute this is still an issue. I'm as curious about it as everyone else. Thanks for the comment and suggestion.

I ONLY tried it without my glasses :) I wanted to eliminate that variable completely so I wore contact lenses (you can catch a brief glimpse when I put the headset on in the video 2:17). Great observation however and I would have been questioning the same thing if I had worn my glasses.

@@GYGOtv That's good to know. Unfortunate though, as I would love to order the MR version, but at the price would be devastated if I put it on and saw what you did. I will watch how this plays out with interest.

Yep that was me LOL, Thank you for the kind words... I absolutely love the DOF Products and I love the Flight Sim community so it made it easier for sure. Hope you got to take a ride in the H3 while you were there?

@@GYGOtv Yeah I did. I chose the take off in the cessna and on the take off said it was pretty jerky and you said you tried changing the yoke sensitivity and everything lol, but no worries, it was great trying!

@@FinalBossRises Yes I remember that. That Yoke needed some attention for sure... Glad you got to take it for a spin at least.

@@GYGOtv For sure!

Nope... I wanted to eliminate that variable completely so I wore contact lenses (you can catch a brief glimpse when I put the headset on in the video 2:17). Great observation however and I would have been questioning the same thing if I had worn my glasses.

Totally agree, what you don't see in the video was me constantly adjusting the headset to try and find that "Sweet Spot". I think if I had more time with it I could get the warping on the bottom of the lens to go away and make it comfortable. I just didn't have enough time to finesse the fit. As for the weird bubble, it felt more like a distortion profile (software) thing to me rather than a bad lens... I say that because I saw it in both eyes instead of just one. I'm still perplexed by what I saw but it was certainly there.

@@GYGOtv I know they have been working on the warping profile for a long time now, and I do find that your feedback shows just how important it is that Somnium are going to make multiple warping profiles available as well as giving the users the ability to adjust the profile themselves - all in their software.

@@DMan-ud6bt If you remember, the Aero had some early issues with their profile too and they got it sorted out over time. I expect the same will happen here.

Yeah, such things happen unfortunately. Thank God it is rare but it does occur from time to time.

Glad to hear something good came from your cataracts, enjoy the correction free vr! When the time does come for the surgery, look into corrective lenses on your implants... my mom did that and could read without glasses afterward. If I do end up with a VR1, you can bet I'll be trying everything I can to make it look as good for me as I know it can. Thanks for the comment.

Jorge was THE MAN, great to get to know him a little.

I take it that you did not have any issues with the comfort or visual quality during your short demo? I have my own on order.

@@DMan-ud6bt I think you are asking sjpeckham, but I found it comfortable when I first put it on.

Do you hear that @artursychov? :) If I don't have to wear it down on my nose, I think it will be fine. It was much more comfortable than the Pimax and I've worn that for 5 hours straight in flight. Thanks for watching and the comment!

That most certainly would help. We had in the past few people who saw some distortions while at 130 FOV and when we measured their FOV and found out that they only can see 120 we dialed it down and it changed the situation completely for them. Unfortunately we did not have to do those things at the venue due to big line of people.

@@artursychov I love having an additional moderator here!!! Thanks for sharing your expertise with my viewers @artursychov... obviously there is a lot I won't be able to answer with my brief use of the headset so your experience is very helpful.

So are you going to send him a VR1 soon?? ​@@artursychov

The pleasure was mine and again I thank you for taking time when you are in the middle of prepping for your Somnium Connect! I know your time is very valuable right now and I appreciate it.

Hey GunPilot, interesting... what game is he trying to use because it all comes down to the game telemetry. I'll try to ask Jeff about it too and hopefully I'll have a YAW one of these days to try so I'll let you know what I find out. So is it not working at all? I know SRS is compatible with the YAW, sounds like he might just need to make sure the game is active in SRS. Hope that helps.

@@GYGOtv not so much that they dont all work mate.....but its the 360 continuous rotation that srs cannot handle

@@GunPilot Interesting... If he sets the Yaw to maximum movement and doesn't limit it in the Yaw Software, it should still rotate 360 whenever the telemetry tells it to... again what sim is he trying it in?

For me it is a childhood dream come true. I ALWAYS wanted to fly an X-Wing and this feels like I'm doing just that! Hope you get to experience the same!

@@GYGOtv I'm sure I will, just might take a min to get used to it, been a while since I have done flight games in VR so I might be a lil sus to VRS. I was one that had to build legs, when Vr reemerged in 2016. Took me about a week with the Rig and GT7 to feel good, haven't played it since Psvr2 launch, so a lil leg rusty. Racers way back in 2016 was one genre that took me a lil to be able to handle for long sessions. I'll tell you its definitely more of a workout racing then with my static car. It pretty intense when you get in the zone. I use the b haptics vest with ATH, I only have the 1 fan SRS Kit, but I designed and printed a splitter and Fabricated plumbing so I have a rear vented fan blowing on me as well. Having that with wheel haptics and the motion just raises the immersion factor off the charts. Im 100% happy with my purchase, and I do plan on getting the H3 add-on and quite honestly probably be rocking the 6 some day as well. Very happy to support a company that is run like theirs, good product honest people.

@@VDVrEquipment Good Luck with your "legs" I bet it will come back to you fairly quickly. I know what you mean about the workout... dogfighting is the same way with turning all around to see the bandit and all that. I've always been a fan of DOF Reality and I can tell you after working with them on the FSExpo that they really are great folks! I got to know Igor pretty well and he is a genuinely good guy. A haptic vest is on my wish list too, are you happy with the B Haptics?

Here is a response I wrote to someone that kinda turned into a review. I did a lil updating to it because I understand the B haptics vest better now. Be advised I can be long winded, it's awesome in Breechers on psvr2, Head , Arms, Body, Hands/gunstock haptics, it's is pretty immersive just like the Dof Rigs. 100% recommend if you can afford it. There are ones that kinda shock/electrical you, I don't want to feel muscle cramping so Bhaptics for the win. ​@@GYGOtv

Well you're wrong, Breechers is native on psvr2. I have the vest and arms and its pretty cool. Everything does not rumble the same with a native supported game. In breeches I can tell you if someone is shooting me with big caliber weapons or small caliber. I can tell you how many bullets hit me and where or if it just one big blast that kills you. Every time you grab your gun you get haptics in the arms. The round starts with a body scan to tell you the round has started. When you’re shooting you get haptics across everything. I also use a VDGS1 Elite gunstock. So the experience to me is pretty sweet. I've been gaming since the Vectrex and I've never experienced anything like it. If you use ATH then you get a general everything is rumbling. But you can quazi program the b haptic vest with the eq in ATH. You can also map frequencies with the haptic points to a degree. I think it’s cool even without native. In my opinion I wouldn't game anymore without it. 
I also have a Woojer v3, certain games with really good 3d spatial audio allows the haptics to vibrate in the general direction of the sound. If a bomb goes on to your left, the left side of the vest rumbles but not the right. Turn around and the same bomb in the same direction goes off and you now only feel it on your right. Not every game does this though. The Jurassic game, Horizon COM, light brigade to name a few all work in this way. Even without native it’s really cool. If you close your eyes, you can feel the Dino walking back and fourth, it translates on the vest with the haptics moving to one side to the other matching the sound. Depending on orientation, you can feel where the mob is walking without even looking. Again not all games work like this with Ath, the ones with good spatial audio tend to be the ones that do this, when it does work it is cool. Most gamers will have added immersion whether flat or vr with the Woojer. While you may not get directional haptics all the time with ATH, you do feel the sounds and each sound does have unique feelings with Woojer haptics, which is the one thing that I believe is better with Woojer. Demeo has some cool sound effect examples. Playing the last year with the Woojer has been better than all the years without it. So it’s no slouch in the haptic department for gaming. 
 I have not tested any of this with the B haptics for the same directional haptics yet, just the Woojer v3. I would say for VR gaming the B haptics is a better buy because native sets it apart drastically. Having the grid which allows for complex feeling construction is superior for VR gaming. Also I like the tune ability of bHaptics in ATH mode. Woojer is very limited in that regard. Woojer haptics are nicer than the b haptics with better individual fidelity, but there is only 6. B haptics spreads the fidelity of an individual Woojer haptic, across all their haptics motors, if that makes sense, it’s different but cool. B haptics can also be programed via sounds and linking to the haptic motors. There are like 15 bands on the eq, each one can be adjusted and you can link a set of haptics chest and back to that particular frequency. There’s 20 per side so a low frequency you could just have the bottom of the vest rumble, or you could have the whole vest rumble. High pitches could be higher on the vest or left or right or just even on the chest. It generally groups two motors at a time. You can have any variation of 0-20 linked haptics to each frequency on the chest and back. That would make the haptics a mess, but it demonstrates how much you are able to manipulate the sounds in connection to the haptics and placement. The grid is 4 w x 5 h chest and back. So the outer ones are linked and the two inner ones are linked in each horizontal row. So you’re always turning on or off two at a time whether it’s the middle two or the outside two. You can then turn on or off that combination in all 5 rows of 4 on the chest and back, so the combinations are endless. Factor in the 15 frequency sliders and strength sliders you can get lost in profiles. It is limited and works better with certain genres, but it’s a step up from Woojer, which gives it more overall usability across the board. I have the x40 and just got it two months ago, I have had the v3 since psvr2 launch with plenty of time on that and over 100 different games. 
For VR gaming I would recommend B haptics over Woojer. It has more to offer overall and feels like it was built with VR gaming in mind, Woojer feels like it was made for audio people, even though it can be used with ath in games and is cool. Since they cost about the same, I would say if your gamer, especially a vr gamer B haptics all the way. Music junkie, movies Woojer is great gaming is good. B haptics just seems more like a vest designed for Vr gaming and that is what I play. I bought it because the only way to make this stuff get native support more commonly and get cheaper, is if more people have it. Legendary tales will be awesome with native. Cyube also is getting native support. If you look at all the games on pc that are on psvr2, there's like 30+. Hopefully that allows those devs to patch in native support easily, we’ll see though. With Pcvr support coming, there are lots of games on pcvr that are native, so it opens up a lot. Which is one of the reason I switched over, native is a gamechanger. 
I'm a immersion junky, that always likes to live at the cutting edge gaming, to the level I can afford of course. Haptics are the future, how fast that happens depends on how fast the consumers take up the tech. It’s always the chicken and egg with this stuff. I for one want more so I’m willing to be an early adopter of this stuff. Everyone has to do what they can with their budgets. To me its worth every penny, the question is it worth it to you.

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I can tell you right now the DOF Reality H6 is AMAZING in Elite Dangerous, one of the best experiences you can have in the motion rig! Having the 3 extra motions of sway, surge and heave really add the the realism of flying those spaceships. I'd imagine Star Citizen will be similar. If you are interested, here is a link of my livestream so you can see the H6 in action... you don't have to watch it all, I'd say check out the asteroid part here kzfaq.infoXxapAZ3wyx0&t=10320s Hope you enjoy it.

I know, the motion industry is really taking off it seems. Cool sounding stuff you list there, I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the comment and for sharing!

I'm certainly not going to argue with you there... I showed my preference with the H6!

@@GYGOtv jejeje I will get it but as an upgrade I will start in the H3 and that's what like of this product you can upgrade on the road also my focus is sim racing still have to try flying games

@@AdvanceRGB Awesome, in my opinion the H6 is even better for racing than it is for flight. That side sway is awesome when you side swipe someone or hit a guardrail, and the Heave gives a great feeling when you hit bumps in the road or catch air off a jump. Just amazing... we won't even talk about rally!

@@GYGOtv I know... don't make me think about it I do it in that way because need to make it fit on the budget

@@AdvanceRGB Sorry about that LOL, wasn't trying to make you feel bad... just wanted to make sure you knew how good it was. Even the H2 (let alone the H3) is an amazing experience so you should still be very excited!

O man, I really want to hear what you think of that comparison!!! which Actuator setup did you get? How many DOF is it?

Ya you can limit the rotation so probably about a 6x5 ft. space would work... of course that takes away one of the key features of the Yaw when you do that so I get what you mean. thanks for the comment.

Yes I'm getting a sense that balance is VERY important for these to work correctly. How much weight did you need to counter your HOTAS?

@@GYGOtv more than you think I have a yoke and combat pedals then the side plates for the warthog hotas with a custom Plate for the joystick In the middle with ext bar and I am on the more robust statue of a 50 plus year old so counter weight is as out 30kg

@@samgarlick9585 so that is about 65 pounds for those in the USA. So what happens to the unit if you don't counter weight it?

You will see the movement you state and will need to ramp the power up which could burn out the motor possibly. It also makes the movements smoother along with SMS software. I am keen to see the yaw 3

Thanks for the info! How does the landing feel? I'm sure with a heave module it will be even more amazing!

@@GYGOtv the appropriate bumps and skids what is more of a freaky feel but absolutely stunning is the lift off my first flight was off the waterfront helipad in New York and the rise and tilt then yaw completely fooled my mind to the point is was like whoooa whilst laughing like a giddy kid. I am so looking forward to the heave as I have seen your H6 and think I would like that

@@samgarlick9585 I can tell you the Heave in the H6 and in Helicopters is AMAZING! You feel it when the skids hit too hard! Hope you get that same feeling with the Heave module on the Yaw!

Ya we will see if I end up with a demo unit. I feel like it and the H3 might each have advantages but my gut feeling is the DOF Reality H6 is still going to give a much superior experience. Of course I'll keep an open mind but that is what my gut is telling me right now. Thanks for the comment!

Maybe... I think you are sacrificing the stability so I might argue with you the DOF Reality H6 is the best design overall. Time will tell, thanks for the comment.

@@GYGOtv I hear you, I own a P6 and I’m happy with it. I meant to say aesthetic design. Sorry for the confusion.

@@hrbeta Absolutely agree with you there... just don't know if in practice that design will really work the way it looks like it should. Glad you are enjoying your P6... they are awesome aren't they!

Thanks TDub! I think the big question is if the increased pitch angle of the YAW is worth sacrificing the stability of the H3, and that is a big toss up right now. I can tell you, unless the YAW just amazes me, I can't see me trading off my H6 for it... I think you would give up too much just to get that extra pitch, but we will see.

Use a washing machine stand....works perfectly and will lift the footrest off the ground. Recommend one rated for 1700lbs