And a very ugly ultimate animation at that.

@@hikari9262 misha or yanqing?

@@NitroNitro95 misha

Briefcases Nuke is OP

@@hikari9262 bro is a hater ong

and Sushang!

He is a combat prodigy, but every major fight we see him in is against every remaining member of the elite group his mentor was previously a part of. Maybe a return to the Luofu in a later chapter will give him the respect he completely lost.

deserved, I despise that little brat

@@jasonkeith2832 i doubt that. there are several more xiuanjou ships there.

@@vault29a True. Also, if we get a proper Sushang mission on her home ship we would have him show up as the prodigy she thinks of him... and then watch as he yet again gets floored, this time by her combat savant mother.

I have E6 Herta built already. Should I get and build misha?

If anything you should use them both they have great synergy together. But u also don't need him ​@@ABC-yj6cy

@@ABC-yj6cy Herta is fantastic for Pure Fiction, but pretty bad for MOC. Misha doesn't seem that much better though (although he has some good synergy with Yanqing). Better wait for Jingliu rerun I'd say >.>

​@@ABC-yj6cyDepends, Herta is very good for Pure fiction but im not 100% sure for much else. Misha , in my opinion, is pretty good tbh and i find his freeze potential nice. Who to build depends on what content you're struggling with

@@ABC-yj6cy Misha is much more better everywhere else except PF, bcs Herta is the best Ice DPS for PF

isnt he a child 😭😭😭 no shit he was beaten by hundred+ year old adults 😭😭😭😭

I'll say this here and now, Yanqing never should've been a boss fight in the main story, we shoulda fought Blade alongside Yanqing

Well there's also another achievement with killing blow Wind Dan Heng which isn't his weakness .. but yeah

@@arisaliakerwood3999 What do you mean? Boss Yanqing is weak to Wind, Lightning, and Imaginary.

Personally i got the achievement for dealing the final blow on yanqing WITH Yanqing. Maybe thats not super known as an existing one? I mean makes sense. Most ppl dont use him i guess lol

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I use him cause I like his design. He isn’t that bad to be honest. Use him with a shielder and he’s fine. Ofc other characters do more damage than him, but if you need him to clear content he won’t have that many problems, it sounds worse than it is

It doesn't help that in story, every character Yanqing fought and got beat up by is effectively a former master/protegee/famouse warrior in their own right. Jingliu is his master's master. Blade and Dan Heng (or at least his former self) are both former friends and comrades. Even Trailblazer (Caelus specifically) reportedly went toe to toe with Blade and came out of that, so it just makes it even more understandable Yanqing just wasn't pit against simple members. No he was basically thrown to the wolves. His kit being unfortunately reliant on shields and even freezes to some extent just kinda hurts him more as if you want full value from him, you want other ice units to utilize to trigger freezes and hopefully boost his damage further, making him effectively regulated to a Mono-ice or ice heavy team. And even in that set up of say Gepard, Raun Mei, Pela, Yanqing, Jingliu still is better in that kind of team. So he's overshadowed even then. Fitting for a kid who isn't yet ready for the real difficulties of the world.

An alt 5* would be good if we get like his SU form like the boss his burst is like the big damage and his skill is enchancement like blades it takes a lot of turns then his basics can trigger his follow up atks same kit just more efficient and damage

Would be dope for him to gain an alt 5* where he summons swords as extra units like he does as a boss fight ngl, they already have the mechanics to do that with the Aetherium Wars event when you used enemies as your allies, so it definitely could be a possibility, although I'm just coping

@@BlankedOutSlate Honestly would be kind of cool if he had that, his alt 5* could have been something like using his skill/ultimate summons a sword attached to allies or himself. If they attack, he gets a follow up hit with that sword. If they get take damage, the sword breaks (keeping in line with his need to not get hit). Maybe even making it so he deals more damage the more swords are out. I imagine with Misha out and having a variable number of hits with ult, an alt 5* would have similar properties at this point.

He is still a prodigy and stronger than pretty much everyone in the loufu. Hes just unlucky running into the only few people who can absolute wipe the floor with him like the high cloud quintet or a walking nuke with a ton of plot armour.

I seriously don't understand why they made it random with those multipliers. It just doesn't justify the low fixed chance of activating.

There’s an additional small problem with him not activating his Follow up every time, his follow up attacks give 5 energy so not only do you lose out on that damage you also lose out on energy for doing Ults more

You make it sounded like he seriously required Hit Rate, Effect Rate and Crit DMG.

​@@mildanvongrius5530what is the diff between hit rate & effect rate?🤔

@@altri2254 there isn’t any because Hit Rate isn’t a thing, I think they’re either talking about Yanqing’s chance of activating his FUA or his Aggro but his FUA is on a Fixed chance and Aggro is already lowered while in Soulsteel so I’m not sure

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Lucky for u 2 preservation units are coming after sparkle

As somebody who has E6 Yanqing, you can have my dupes

@@husbandosupremamcy5867 and makes Yanqing dope as F. Kinda easy to build. Just all into CD lol

Fire Trailblazer anyone?

Jingliu deals lower damage but on area

The fact that you have to come up with so many specific scenarios to even give him a sliver of hope shows how beyond hopeless he is. Another thing is if they do release some kinda relic set/light cone with conditions like hp needs to be full or no proc, it makes every single other unit look bad instead of making Yanqing look good too. Even with that given condition Yanqing would still need full shield uptime just like gepard, not only that,that shield would need to provide cleanse too incase he's affected by status conditions like bleed,burn,wind shear etc or else you need to use another characters skill to again stop him from taking damage besides the shield itself. And with how the meta moves hoyo would rather make exclusive pair up characters for exclusive 5 stars only. We just got the black swan kafka combo and even though both of them can work individually pretty well but we can definitely see what the devs had in mind while making black swans kit. Sadly i have 0.001% hope that Yanqing will ever receive that kind treatment.

But then again, Hoyo isn't known to do retrobuffing or fixing a kit after a unit was released. I've played Genshin and HSR since their releases and the only unit they fixed was Zhongli after a massive backlash and boycott from Chinese and global fans alike.

imagine a preservation character that "hunt characters" once lose their shield and when receiving an attack that damage is transferred to another character with a shield or directly to the preservation character.

@@imtiazzmurshed3965 oh I absolutely do not fully disagree, I’m just delighted seeing how other characters I’ve used before got soft buffs by setting the right scenarios (pure fiction, for example, or sushang in certain scenarios where it’s focused on instances of hitting a target). I do wish hoyo would slow down their release of new characters and be more willing to give tiny tweaks on some older characters. Hell, they could even provide focus banners for them and a new skin if they wanted to give a promo. A lot of wishing

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I keep him on the main party because he’s the reason I wanted to play Star Rail in the first place. It’s like how I keep certain characters on my Genshin team because I have an attachment to them

It's because even if a Taunt is good, it doesn't affect the plethora of aoe attacks half of enemies have. Most bosses the attack you are concerned about isn't a large single person attack, it's the massive party wide attack that nearly kills people. Taunt really only affects mini bosses for their gimmicks.

Bringing TB means more sp consuming to ensure yanqing don't get hit though, but having sparkle on the team may fix that

@@sorashizen5130 I posted this before Sparkle dropped but I can confirm after pulling her that she really does help. Even without the skill point increase, the crit buffs alone go crazy

this is the comment i was looking for. he does get alot of shit xc but if you play him right, he does some serious damage and his freeze is crazy

Isn't Misha destruction though? Is it practical running 2 DPS at once?

@@sorashizen5130they can use Yanqing as their main DPS, while Misha as a sub-DPS.

@@sorashizen5130 Despite how popular hypercarries are, there's nothing wrong with dual-DPS set-ups. Honestly I prefer them just because I find the cycle of buffing one person over and over boring.

@@sorashizen5130 misha feeds on spent Skill points to increase his ult dmg

@@thebadshave503ngl I have to disagree, i'm pretty sure with how effective defense reduction is in hsr pela just has a better spot on that team than misha, I don't know how much dmg misha gets but I used to think running a main and sub dps was okay until I saw the difference units like pela and silver wolf make for your hypercarry and it's just not worth it. Even double harmony tends to be better than running a sub-dps currently. Ofc that's for more success with end-game content and I'm not saying it can't work but it is just better to have a def reduction unit or second harmony.

Yea but the flip side of the coin is, you could be waiting for Gepard forever (or at leadt until 300th pull to get one from selector). Imagine your first 5* is Yanqing and having to wait 6+ months before you could play him with any amount of reliability

@@flying-ship As someone whose first 5-star was Yanqing and only recently got Gepard, I understand where you are coming from

​@@rebeccacourtney5286 If leaks are correct Adventurine will be Yan and many other units best friend as he comes to do what most preservation units do but better, like waaaaaaaay better.

Cleansing debuffs wouldn't hurt.

​@@rebeccacourtney5286he was my second standar with his lightcone without gepard he was good but in the 300 pulls selector i pick gepard and my god he destroys everything

He definitely not the worst 5 star in game now

what do you mean by this? like his entire kit just copy pasted into a different path or smth else?

​@@hallow3233nah back then, the best follow up attack buffs were mainly on erudition BUT with the release of topaz and dr ratio who primarily focus on their follow up attacks, those lightcones could help him but there's basically gated

I mean ya it makes sense cause that's His boss fight.......cause kafka detonates Her DoTs, argenti just hits VERY HARD in aoe, Gepard puts up a Sheild.....and bronya advances people forward...........so yanquing got his ENTIRE kit reworked

We already got an ice erudition and that's herta. And there is absolutely no way I'm passing up the kuru kuru machine.

That’s a pretty weird statement ngl

My thought as well.

yes, but as he said, what's stopping you from just using aventurine on other chars?

yeah, nah whoever that would be, id juse Jingliu with them.

@@isaac-p6126 why would you do that? jingliu drains the whole team's health so you want to use her with a healer not a shielder

Prob the best shielder for yanqing is adventurine who will be coming out soon

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Real, I picked him at the 300 standard now he’s E3, 10/10 talents and bis lc

HSR completely violated our child; Bro lost to his mentor’s mentor, got 2v1’ed against his mentor’s mentor’s friends, the main character, a Women who’s one of the most wanted people in their verse and a girl with the “I won’t let my friends down” plot armour, AT BETWEEN 8-14 YEARS OLD!!!!!!!! People may hate him, but he’s got the most potential in the verse, (which will probably be wasted)

Real, I pulled Seele lightcone S2 and maxxed it JUST for him, 10/10 his talents and currently grind for his relics as I type this

Nah I'd lose -fraudqing

I used to be a Yanqing main too but even with good attack, good crit ratio, a mfkin Bronya and Ruan Mei on the team, his damage is still bad

Im a yanqing main too expect I dont got Gepard I got Trailblazer fire, Ruan Mei, Tingyun and Yanqing for my team

I'm very new to the game so I know my knowledge is lacking when I make this suggestion cause I plan on doing this but why not run March with him? She can shield him have Natasha heal him and just run another OP damage dealer?

Because marchs shield makes it so you're more likely to be attacked which is exactly what you dont want to do with yanqing plus having to use her shield and his skill every turn is -2 skill points which sucks to try n maintain @@sorivios728

​@@sorivios728Vars went over this very briefly in the video, but essentially there just aren't enough skill points generated by a theoretical team comp to support both Yanqing's skill (which he needs to use at least every other turn) and March's shielding. Gepard shields with his ultimate, so he's not competing for the SP like March would be.

And the sad part is that he's worse then jinglui in EVERY possible way........u would at least EXPECT yanquings ULT to at least deal more then jingluis Skill..........but NOPE for some reason that is not the case even........ Also yanquint was also just one of the more interesting chars cause hes a cocky little kid that tries HIS ABSOLUTE HARDEST......but just get shit on OVER AND OVEr and it would of been nice to see yanquings story GO WITH THAT.......but he's a loufo char and loufo chars all got there chance wasted by just the loufo problems

@@CarterVanek-uv3ow we can only hope something changes in the future :c

To be fair, I used him quite a lot, but mostly when I had like 2 5 stars and nothing else. He did more damage than my Clara for a while and I would carry him in my SU where Ice was required + Path of Remembrance, so he didn't disappoint me back then. But now that I have more 5 stars that do more damage (Just recently got Black Swan, so I'm building her) I understand why he's ignored: he's more like a 4 star than a 5 star, his kit works but hard to keep consistent, and his damage is good but "there is better" (Never had a Jingliu, and I heard he's basically a better Jingliu). Frankly I don't hate him, he's "okay". I still occasionally use him when I need an Ice dps. Otherwise, I finally got better.

Play whoever you want!! It's your choice who you play!! I play Yanqing and I try to make the best Yanqing possible because that's how I wanna play, you can not use him much, and that's your choice!

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x3 aggro, iroinically leaves him with less aggro than most units anyways since he halves his own mid buff

the thing abt il dan heng tho is that his alternate form plays a major part in the story + his kit (and his il form itself) is considerably different from his 4 star form which is what warrants his il form to be its own playable character.. i dont see why yanqing would ever gain some sort of alternate form story wise so i doubt they'd ever release another form of him as a playable character (especially without changing his kit considerably compared to his current kit) if anything hoyoverse should just give him a buff by altering the conditions of his talent instead

You forgot Dan was a 4 star so it was fine for him to get a 5 star glow up.

@anyaaa2801 yeah that too😭 highly doubt they'd ever create a playable alternate version like that for a character thats already a 5 star like yanqing

I don’t quite see your reasoning in saying he’s a good contender. Yanqing is barely plot relevant since his only role in the trailblaze quest is to be a nuisance who gets swiftly curb stomped. Characters like March 7th or Sampo who are plot relevant, have a lot of unanswered questions surrounding them, and are 4* units with room for major power upgrades are much better candidates.

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Same Day 1 player, still no diluc at all, so yeah bad assumption on their end.

Were you just superlucky on the "Standard Banner" in HSR or did you lose that many 50/50s? I'm just curious, because I've only lost one 50/50 in GI (I've eight exclusive 5*), but so far lost all my 50/50s in HSR. 😟

@@user-ex4lb5to8h I've only got eidolons (E2 Yanqing, E1 Bronya), Clara and Himeko from losing 50/50 Most times I've lost 50/50 in HSR, I've gotten the guaranteed character very early after that (sometimes within the next 10 pull like pulling Topaz immediately after Clara). First Yanqing was from beginner, first Bronya was my very first 5-star from standard, also that got Bronya LC, Gepard and his LC from standard. Welt was my 300 pick.

only 5 star i don't have is welt. picked gepard from the selector

I'm a F2P Genshin player since 2.1, I have pulled 8 Jeans but have yet to pull a single copy of Mona, Keqing, and Dehya. Much better spread in HSR, again as a F2P, I'm only missing Himeko.

Thats really not his ONLY problem. He just lacks damage for a hypercarry. Jingliu does everything better then him, yes single target damage too, at least thats my test result.

im aware jingliu does more damage and im aware yanqing would need more cycles to clear moc all im saying is that i cant wait to actually play him more comfortably after adventurine drops(even if he’s serviceable at best). i guess saying he would “pop off” is a bit overkill but hey i love him what can u say.

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Thats cute, yo have fun he is pretty much the worst dps but he can still carry you through any content, so knock yourself out 🤗

I'm trying uwu, I have him 32/210 crit rate, and a the talent at level 10 😊 And I just got Gepard yesterday so I cannot be happier, my boy is finally at his full potential with Bronya and Gepard by his side❤

Me, but Keqing. Who was the only standard 5* I actually wanted

​​@imventithebardI can atest to that, I got diluc late... After I already good five stars dps... When I really want him at early days and the game give me mona twice...and a Qiqi before I got him... also most of F* star I won 50-50 and earlier pity.. I pulled on whim without preparing for them. While character I really want and prefarmed.. Avoiding me... And making me lose ... Or appear at late pity XD

As was already said in the video, there's nothing stopping you from just using that on a better character. Other chars have something going for them. Jing Yuan has high multipliers that scale very well with outside buffs. Kafka was individually a strong character but had to carry a bunch of 4*s until now. Yanqing is still underwhelming, even in ideal scenarios.

Fire trail Lazer DPS?

​@imventithebard I do get those points, however vars specifically compares hsr to genshin in terms of character value. In star rail, I truly believe that every character is valuable and every character has something that makes them unique. The difference between each character and how each of them has a niche is something that literally cannot be done properly in genshin. In genshin most dps units are practically identical while in hsr, each dps has a ton of gameplay differences. While genshin dps characters try to be different, they don't feel different. Even yanqing, who does have a ton of flaws, does have something that makes him valuable. He is one of the easiest dps characters to build. As long as your able to keep him protected, he literally fixes his own crit stats in his base kit. Of course that niche isn't useful in the late game, but it is an advantage he has and ensures that he will remain unique amongst dps characters in hsr, which cannot be said of most genshin dps characters

I didnt play genshin since 3.5 or so, but wasnt keqing one of the top dps with the introduction of Dendro? Though i also loved playing her before that point, so i understand the feeling. There is a reason people always recommend pulling for your favorite character first, as that way you will have the most fun usually

​@dannyrehben4861 people played physical keqing until dendro dropped, then she was like A tier. She got power crept by Cyno but I still prefer Keqing for quicken/aggravate teams (keqing, Nahida, Zhongli, C6 Lisa is a team I had a lot of fun farming domains with)

Was gonna comment this I think he might be decent now?

Only if you have aventurine however lol

1 hit and all the buffs is gone

And his consistent part, have too low dmg anyways

Unless aventurine turns his attack into Blast radius or gives him an extra turn like sushang/seele I dont see yanqing surging back into popularity any time soon.

Aventurine don't buff dmg

That's the Yanqing experience for ya

Will be an amazing duo, especially since Yanqing has follow up attacks. Which stacks adventurines passive. Sp might a problem though as Yangqing is very skill point hungry and adventurine needs to skill for his shield. Wheras Gepard can be entirely sp positive while sheilding.

Day 1 player with at least C3 in everyone💀 the power of losing 50/50

Day 1 player with no diluc, but C4 mona, who is benched.

eyyy my kin! i have just about every standard character too and a c6 keqing but for the life of me, I haven't gotten a single Qiqi. and i need her to complete my "Little Minis" team!

I've been playing since 1.2 and have no Jean but have C3/C4 of the others that were standard since 1.0 and C2 Tighnari.

Started in 2.5 and got c0 qiqi, c2 keqing, c0 mona, c0 dehya, and c3 Diluc 💀. 3 of those Dilucs were on standard basically back to back along with 2 wgs copies. Only lost the 50/50 to Diluc once

yanqing has objectively higher single target damage to seele tho. she demolishes him in terms of flexibility and ability to clear adds

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at first glance seeing the multiple paragraphs I was like... mihoyo would never... but these are honestly such simple changes 😭😭 I dont think giving him a self generating shield would work tho due to the disparity between paths, but giving him a buff based on the amt of shield he was would be plenty imo since he already needs to be played w a shielder.

@@rinisannoyed3991 Yeah, i could see how there could be issues with him self generating sheilds. That's why i made it so weak. The idea is that it will help him with getting nicked by a side blast hit or even help stop a simple DoT from just de-activating his Soulsync.

@@danielw.2456 Yeahhh I see the vision fs, maybe instead he could generate a "shield" which just prevents one attack from landing instead

@@rinisannoyed3991 Sure, that could work too. That probably makes more sense from a certain perspective. But i could also see how overpowered that could be via intentionally not using skill with Yanqing to de-activate Soulsync & then re-activating it right before the boss does an aoe party attack to nullify the damage for Yanqing. & the the logistics of how this one hit damage blocker interacts with normal sheilds (aka, those applied by allies) is also important to consider as the same logic applies if this damage blocker also stops normal sheilds from taking damage then the user can just not use Soulsync after the damage nullifying sheild is popped, get it back the next turn via using skill, & then have a meaty sheild while also being able to just say no to one instance of damage. Add the Unseen passive i added to this mix & Yanqing effectively can just cheat the game in a way that is not healthy imo. With Soulsync activation generating a small sheild not only does it synegizes with his updated kit i brainstormed better (as he gets damage boosts from sheilds), but it's also easier to balance as if it's too strong you can just make the scaling smaller. & if it's used when Yanqing already has a sheild on him from a teammate it's just gonna add a little baby sheild on top of the main sheild so it's nothing too crazy in that sense. This "tiny sheild" idea is moreso just to give him some solo prescence so if he is fighting without a sheilder he isn't crippled bc of it. Like how Kafka can still function fine on her own without a DoT team.

@@danielw.2456 this implies that there would be a situation where you can just choose not to activate it. in order to "not activate" his passive, you have to basic attack. thats an insane loss of dps, so there would be no incentive to not activate even with a buff upon activation. youd have to waste an entire turn for a slight buff. wouldnt be an issue

I mean march alone is better for remembrence runs than he is and she is a free 4 star.

@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn I honestly have a much better time running him and Pela.

@@TheJasperMage Pela is good but Yanqing doesn't come close. Assuming you have a EHR March built she can freeze and entire group 100% garunteed and keep them frozen the entire fight. Especially with her much better brealing thanks to her AOE and counters. Yangqings single target focuse makes him the worst ice unit for remembrence runs, even herta does better. In terms of pure freezing ability its. 1) march 2) Jing Liu 3) Herta 4) Pela 5) misha 6) Gepard 7) Yanqing.

@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn I am aware of what march does. and I have played her rememberence a few times. but i have a fully invested Yanqing and he never fails clearing with rememberence. And on my alt account I use the same technique and it also works every time.

@@FallenPhoenix-ml5mn i've also been testing Micha instead of Yanqing.... and Yanqing still performs better. IDK why.

His dmg numbers are low and he is single target. He is comparable or slightly better than selee. But you know that we have now ratio which does a lot of single target dmg and ice boy can't compete with that even with permanent uptime on his passive. Since perma passive was competing with Seele

I mean even when his passive has permanent uptime his damage is worse than Ratio's and Ratio has better synergy with Adventurine. Ratio was also given out for free so everyone has him.

great in what sense ? gameplay ?? lol no story ? well xianzhou luofu storyline is garbage..

@@NielsGx he means the video is great way to explain why he's not being used not yanqing being great