Can I just-? Yesterday, a keto girl (ex vegan by her terms) told me she remembers the ethics she learned, but the TRUE abomination in ethics is the "meat waste" produced by people turning vegan. I wish I was making this 💩 up.

Hey Mic, anecdotally, I encourage a friend that was due to have prostate surgery because of cancer to cut out or at least down on animal products and increase plant foods. Long story short he reduced to varying degrees but managed to reduce his PSA levels to a point where his doctors felt surgery was no longer necessary. We could also see his PSA levels rise and fall depending on how much or how little animal product he was consuming. Not conclusive but very interesting, I feel with a stricter diet the cancer could have been cured but as an older person he was happy to just keep it under control. Love your work!

Doctors don't check for heart blockages unless they have reason to, e.g. patients with a history of heart attacks and blockages. At best, a dr put a stethoscope on his chest. The first symptom of a heart attack is often death for a reason.

I'm constantly amazed how anyone would think that ANY industrialised product is being made with our wellbeing as a priority. Who was it that said, " The food industry doesn't care about our health and the medical industry doesn't care about our food"

"Dr. Drew on his show is sponsored by Paleo Valley and their beef sticks."😂 Conflict of interest.

I love getting cornered by bullies saying, "Yo do you". They're antiestablishment, until the dinner plate.

Thanks for the rebuttal of the Jimmy Dore show.. I saw that show and asked in the comments what his apo-b was but never got a response.

Its very bad for factory farm animals

I’m still not used to how good shaved Mic looks.

This study was of 120,000 people over 28 years, people who ate the most red meat tended to die younger & to die more often from cardiovascular disease and cancer

Getting close to 400k subs Mic, if I could sub twice I would. Appreciate the infomation you breakdown for easy consumption

Oh my, these idiots hurt my head, lol.

Damn Big Broccoli for funding those anti-meat research studies! /s

Woah! I was not expecting this cross-over. 😅

Man if I had a dollar for how many times Dore grifts on his show.....

Imagine the conversations if we had the Internet way back when they started telling us smoking was bad......

Brilliant response! Bravo, Mike!

Plant Chompers interviewed a scientist who explained the food frequency surveys and how accurate they are. We don’t always remember everything we ate a few days ago but we do remember how often we eat various foods.

Animal ag. and big dairy have very powerful financial interests pushing the meat narrative. Jenny Mitich has a new cholesterol level of 343, and not feeling well? 😂

Sad Jimmy Dore is the greatest for most things. Problem is it is very easy to get tricked by the food industry.

I’m staggered by how many people are going carnivore, and Drs telling us that eggs and butter are good for you and plants are trying to kill you and are carcinogenic 🥴🤪

All these people can easily be fooled. Thats the sad part. Sell outs

The conspiratorial mindset seems to be more common amongst those that think animal products are terrific for us while believing that major institutional research gets things wrong about fats and cholesterol.

I used to like Jimmy (who tried being an ethical vegan. But like most progressives- it was too hard to live up to his values.) but he’s becoming the type of person that rules his life by his feels and not facts.

Mike much thanks to you for debunking the bunk. You are a true gem 💎 Vegan for the animals 🌱 ❤️ 💪

Thank you for doing all that work ❤

regardless of ethics, how could eating something that is almost EXACTLY identical to your own tissue possibly be bad for you? It is made up of EXACTLY those building blocks in EXACTLY those ratios that most of our cells/metabolism require, because animals like mammals have almost the exact same genetic makeup...

Every piece of "meat" you eat was an innocent helpless baby who begged for their mom but were brutally murdered for you to eat. Yes, babies. Look it up.

My grandmother cooked with lard and ate red meat every day. She lived to 99 !

Nice video Mic well done.🌱🌠🍀

Great research and commentary as always, Mic! Interesting you mentioning Dr. Drew's past battle with prostate cancer over a decade ago. If I'm not mistaken, I believe he's also been quite vocal, more recently, about battling diverticulitis in the past 2 to 3 years. So, it sounds to me like maybe him taking an even closer look at some of his dietary beliefs might be very much what is needed by him in order to improve his own personal state of health. With that said though, I wish him all the best of luck.

It's crazy how popular this keto/carny stuff is. Do people have a literal deathwish?

Thanks for the great video, love your work!! Looking forward to your new Ebook!!! Did you notice that the episode with Dr. Neal Barnard at The Diary of a CEO was removed? I don't know why. I hadn't watched it yet. If anyone know where to find it, would be nice to know.

I have been researching both vegan and carnivore diets in recent months and have come to the conclusion that both can work depending on the person. It’s the elimination of sugar and junk foods that convey most of the benefits. I thought I would share one of my observations though from watching hundreds of videos from both communities: The carnivore community videos tend to have hundreds if not thousands of people sharing their experiences on carnivore which are 99.99% very positive. It’s often difficult to find even a single example where some had a bad experience on it. I would say at least 90% say it cleared up an array of illnesses and people feel amazing on it. These comments rarely mention vegans or a vegan style of eating. It is rare to find a case of someone who ate carnivore and switched to vegan and said they feel better or that it was the best thing they ever did. The vegan community is littered with people castigating meat eaters and dismissing carnivore, often with a smug or hateful attitude. I understand that many people have an idealogical aversion to killing animals. It is quite common to find people who were ill on vegan and cured themselves when they switched to carnivore. Of course there are a majority that also feel great on vegan too. I notice that it is overwhelmingly the Vegan community that spreads FUD. It is then those same “experts” that seek to sell you you on all kinds of potions, supplements and procedures. My spidey senses are tingling. In my life experience when someone hits me with FUD and then offers a solution which I need to pay for it is usually BS. Let me give you one of hundreds of examples of this. I watched a carni video talking about SIBO, they said the vast majority of people see improvement within 2 weeks of a meat based, zero card diet. They tried to see me nothing. Then I saw the vegan community discussing this. They said it needed to be analyzed via a stool sample and then promoted a $250 stool analysis service. I see this pattern again and again and again. Like I said, I think both diets have their benefits but do your research folks and question those spreading FUD and selling you stuff as a supposed panacea.

I got bamboozled by a similar character back around 2010, Tom Naughton, with his "debunk" of Super Size Me, called Fat Head. It sent me down the "Ancel Keys ruined everything, carbs are the enemy" narrative that fortunately I grew out of by the end of the decade.

So glad you’re doing this! Dore is right about so much, but this time-holy moly!

Keep up the good work ! Your awesome

Ugh, both of those people are insane and not worth the trouble, their viewers are also too far gone. There's no reasoning with the unreasonable.

@jimmydore it is important that you release a retraction for stating that red meat is not bad for you.

Mic needs a beef burger. Not looking healthy there bud.

It was really disappointing to hear. Doctor drew also try and dump on randomized control trials, stating that they're only seventy years old and not very irrelevant form of study. I was speechless when I heard him say that

1:30 i wonder do people know what an orthopaedic surgeon is? It’s a specialisation not anything related to nutrition. Why are they taking anti science advice on a specialisation from another unrelated specialisation.

I unsubbed from his channel after my comment challenging his guest was apparently removed.

Half of Jimmy's show is him reading an article word for word. In this one, it was a study.😂

I didn’t know that these guys were experts on nutrition! Wow! As Dr. McDougall says, people love hearing good news about their bad habits.

Yeah, someone is paying him to say meat is ok now. One thing is a given without any study whatsoever, it is not good for the animal you are eating and that’s enough to make me not eat it.

Well done as always Mic.

The problem with food studies is that there is no strict control to fairly evaluate any one particular food. For example, if someone eats butter but also smokes and eats donuts how do you what each contributed?

Thanks, as always, Mic.

Mic wouldn't know science if it kicked him up the arse

I went carnivore and never felt better. My social anxiety has gotten ALOT better and i have much more energy and require a few hours less sleep than before. I do not like the fact that i have to eat dead animals , because i love animals, but this is how our ancestors ate for millions of years and we evolved to eat meat so we can't really blame ourselves for wanting to eat meat. I do plan in the future to lower my meat consumption or eliminate it altogether and try instead to eat more eggs , raw butter, raa cheese and maybe start including some raw milk again and fruits.

I love Jimmy but he has no idea what he's talking about in this case. Only what he wants to hear. Disappointing

1:53 now I low-key want that Lego nooch 😆

Does anyone remember when Jimmy used to give pro-vegan arguments? Post-Covid Jimmy is not the same…

Great video Mike.🎉

It’s says so much about our species that humanity still can’t grasp the ethical violation of eating animals. All this time and energy squandered on digging for ways to justify taste pleasure.

We're literally living in the result of the overconsumtion of animal parts. The Omnis are NOT doing well.

I'm a big fan of Jimmy Dore. However, when it comes to his take on meat and a vegan diet. Jimmy misses the mark. Your comment Jimmy 's video great. I'm also a big fan of yours! Good worok!

I'm a carnivore. It works for me. If you do vegan, good for you if it works for you.

Mike I know you’ve done videos on seed oils and why they’re inflammatory but can you do one on cold pressed olive oil?

As a runner, all the vegan foods have been helping my runs: bananas, sweet potatoes, beets! You don't need meat to be a good athlete.

Awsome Presentation

People love to hear good things about their bad habits. (McDougall)

Can we bring back that “shoddy research” miniclip at regular intervals please and thank you

"Theyre acting like dogs." Man i remember having that epiphany when i was at an elephant sactuary in Thailand and they were jumping around just like that under a waterfall. Then later that year exact same thing with a little baby moose in grand tetons. Same way little kids just run for the feeling of running. Both experiences felt very unifying

I can't find Jimmy Dore's video. What happened?

I think Jimmy is great in political areas, but maybe just feeding his own belief in medical studies.

I watch Jimmy Dore pretty often. He seems to try to present a narrative different than the mainstream media, and i think that is good for foreign affairs and US politics. But I think on this topic, and on environmental issues in general, it doesn't work very well at getting to the truth.

Stay hungry, guys.

4:22 great cut 😂

I was watching Jimmy's live podcast on this topic a few days ago and made some negative statements in the comment section as to the truthfulness of his analysis. As a rule, he is an excellent political analyst and has made many correct calls that counter the narrative of the governmental oligarchy but I couldn't even finish watching this nonsense. Jimmy will also typically have well respected authorities on his show to back up much of what he says but-- Dr. Drew? Stick to what you know Jimmy and thank you Mic for this excellent critique.

Dr. Drew always creeped me out when he was in that show with Adam Carolla Loveline. His medical advice was dubious I thought. Then he went on to become the psychiatric "expert" for several Rehab reality shows. I found him once again to be slinging psych advice that was maybe okay for the addicts but then he went to say stuff about other psychiatric conditions that were iffy. He's not a psychiatrist. So am I surprised that he's now slinging dubious claims on red meat consumption? Not at all. My anecdotal evidence is that since my stroke and takotsubo syndrome episode my cardiologist advised me to stay WFPB for life. Since my last cholesterol test yielded a total score of 89 I can only assume that is keeping my stroke free and coronary arteries clean.

I genuinely like your intentions... however, the studies on red meat are either weak epidemiology (which are general food questionnaires with healthy user bias, guesswork etc) which usually list relative and not absolute 'risk' or are industry funded. Here's a question for you, if meat is so bad, in your opinion if an average person ate meat only every day, how long would that person live?

youre almost at 400k subs Mic, good job!!! :)

I'm just glad to see Jimmy spreading his wings, and perpetuating disinformation across entirely new realms for him

I appreciate the cut signs

I ate red meat one time and I died

I am vegan, also on the "far right". I watch Jimmy regularly. I do not know where vegan stereotype is coming from cause I've run into liberals and some gays. Not one of these people was vegan. But this does not stop mainstream right pundits from trashing vegans. My guess is that they need to show strength to their constituency by making fun of someone. Vegan are the only minority that won't take them to court, so they let loose.

Wow watching two highly esteemed nutritional experts discussing the benefits of red meat consumption. What a life changing experience. Who the f&@k is this Jimmy Dore anyway?? Is it OK if I say I never heard of this character.

Dr. Drew is a psychologist or guidance counselor. Wtf I have seen him on plenty of podcasts, never heard talking about nutrition.

I follow Jimmy Dore. Love him but to have this Dr Drew as a guess just piss me off. The biggest jab pusher is an expert on this subject. Had to comment and said you really need to do more research and have Dr Neal Bernard on and Dr Gregor. Then you can decide

Does ebook teach you how to only eat food that doesn’t cast a shadow and how to pocket compost? 😂😂

I don’t get it, the animals the carnivores are eating build their bodies by eating plants. By passing the middleman is good for us and and not to mention good for the animals. Carnivores also might consider acrilimides (spelling?)

I have a friend who has been doing Keto/Paleo for quite a few years and her Cholesterol was over 400. She still hasn't changed her diet because she truly believes it won't hurt her. People will eat what they want, believe what they want and die how they want. I will always be here for her should she desire a change though!

Well done Mic. Thank you for doing this video. I was watching Jimmy Dore's livestream when this Dr. Drew was on, I had to shut it off. I like Jimmy, , however he is easily duped.

50,000 years of evolution tell us to eat red meat.

18:16 Why is that chart titled "Full Greenhouse Gas Emissions" when it is ONLY about CO2? What about methane and the other GHGs?

People fry their foods too much I think. Since being vegan I either put things in the oven, steam, eat raw, etc. and rarely use the stove top for things other then maybe boiling some pasta, heating up a tortilla. I bet if people stopped frying everything they eat it would help out greatly. Your veggies don't need to be fried all the time and if you insist on eating meat there's other ways of cooking it too. My taste for meat has changed so much with being vegan, more and more I realize how much better I feel now. People love questionnaires when it shows what they want lol

Great response Mike. Red meat? More like Darth Steaker, menacing our arteries with the dark side of cholesterol. Ditch the dark side of Darth Steaker and his cholesterol-fueled reign of terror. Grab your light saber (made of celery, naturally) and join the legume rebellion! We've got chickpeas, lentils, and the moral high ground (because, let's face it, saving cows and the planet is pretty heroic). Remember Neo dodging bullets in The Matrix? That's basically you ignoring the link between red meat and increased mortality. It's like choosing the red meat pill, leading you down a path paved with clogged arteries and potential health setbacks. The red meat myth perpetuated by "internet doctors" who look more like they got their medical degree from Dr. Google than a real university. These characters are like the Kardashians of nutrition - all hype and no substance, with research as reliable as a fortune cookie written by a malfunctioning printer. They might sound fancy with their "Dr. Steakenstein" and "Dr. Butterfingers" titles, but their claims are about as credible as a unicorn winning the Tour de France. But let's be real, blaming carbs for your health woes is like blaming the sun for a sunburn. Complex carbs are the Robin to your Batman, providing energy, fiber, and a gut party that would make even the grumpiest digestive system do the happy dance. I'm not sure what's more concerning: the fear of carbs or the lack of awareness about the rainforest-destroying consequences of certain dietary choices.

I would be interested in a video on any new research on diet and Covid, or diet and Long Covid.

There's a reason Mic doesn't debate actual scientists. The reason is science.

From now on I’m going to get all my medical/nutritional advice from jimmy dore and Joe Rogan!😅

In Jimmy Dores' defense, he has done some amazing work in many other areas. This was just not one of his finest moments......

I prefer pesticides over hormones and antibiotics. Vegan logic.

'Animal farming causing global warming it's immoral' or 'there isn't a organized effort to limit animal farming' pick one you can't have both positions

8:19 it would raise it by 36% wouldn't it? Since the risk wouldn't be additive but instead multiplicative

Interviewing Dr. Drew as some sort of nutrition expert seems a little Scammy (esp. when you can seek valid vegan scientists)

Maybe the guys from the burden of proof study don't know what a systematic review, interesting name choice, tho

Hey Mic have you heard of a plant based meat company planning to add animal products to their meat to add flavor?the article came up in my Google feed

Drew Pinsky is one of the biggest sellouts in the world. I trust what he has to say about as far as I could throw him.