I find that if the resin doesn’t want to release sometimes tossing the build plate into the freezer causes the print to release due to a different contraction rates of the metal and resin print. Flex plates are generally my preference but when there isn’t a flex plate I find it works fairly well
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Nice share. Thanks 😁
@blaze55692210 ай бұрын
great idea
@juanofthekind2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the love, I really appreciate it VOG
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the incredible share my friend 😁😁😁
@Konradius0019 ай бұрын
My first upgrade, before even the first print, was a wambam flexible build plate. Love it! Never *any* problems getting my prints of the base.
@mattbivi2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, we’ve got the 4K and had a similar issue. We fixed it by bonding a 1mm thick stainless sheet to the base with 2 part epoxy. It’s much smoother, impossible to gouge and works with every resin we’ve tried (so far). We do a lot of flat prints and even 60x60x2mm prints come off without a hitch. Hopefully this’ll help someone checking out your great vids mate.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
That's a great tip, thanks for sharing 😁
@zumuvtuber2 жыл бұрын
Stunning details and great casting! I can't wait to see what the future of SLA brings to the table.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Me too 😁
@PBRJOHN6842 жыл бұрын
That is some great detail from Juan. and a great casting from you.👍
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John 👍
@HunterValleyDan2 жыл бұрын
Very nice print and cast Geoff. I can't believe how companies like Phrozen et al, keep improving the quality of the printers at hobbyist level pricing! This used to be the domain of professional jewelers, dentists and engineering boffins making prototypes. Incredible really... Good honest review again mate.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree Dan. The quality of home printing and now casting has really leapt forward in the past couple of years 😁😁😁
@Vesm369 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing very interesting 😍
@vogman Жыл бұрын
My pleasure 😊
@DjPelland2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a mini 4k vs mini 8k comparison. Trying to decide if its worth the splurge for hobby jewelery casting.
@nikogoersd6009 Жыл бұрын
Did you come to a solution?
@IVIRnathanreilly11 ай бұрын
@@nikogoersd6009yes, you definitely should. 4k is 8k isn't always noticeable but you'll definitely benefit from the 8k for jewellery. People were going for the much worse 8k printers 2 years ago for the pixel density but now they're bigger and cheaper.
@paulrossell48842 жыл бұрын
That was a massive casting ring for a ring. Good job though buddy.
@parker1ray2 жыл бұрын
PTFE and a flex plate should be the standard!
@shura88172 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
No worries! 😁😁😁
@Metalstacker2 жыл бұрын
Awesome cast and great video as usual ✌🏻✌🏻🔥🔥🔥
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 😁
@koolmoedee100002 жыл бұрын
Hope you had a great holiday season VOG!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I did thanks buddy. All the best to you and yours 😁
@petermcmillan17732 жыл бұрын
Your equipment and setup is excellent. Great Video!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter 😁
@ShapingSilver2 жыл бұрын
Amazing details you achieved. Nice one buddy! 👍
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 😁
@CraigLYoung2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 😁😁😁
@ianroberts81582 жыл бұрын
Best wishes for the new year to you and your family Geoff
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ian. Best wishes to you and yours my friend 😁
@dickmorris63102 жыл бұрын
My understanding is that the bottom layers have longer exposure times to improve adhesion to the build plate. I see that yours are fairly short compared to what we have used in the past, but would decreasing them further help?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Trust me Dick, that's what I've been doing. I don't want failures, obviously, but I'm already at approx 30% of the original settings. 😁
@coulterjb222 жыл бұрын
Nice detail! If/when they make a bigger build plate (Smaller than the Mega) with the resolution of the current 8K I'll be waiting in line. And all because of you VOG!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Phrozen don't stand still, so I'm sure it won't be long. Take care buddy 😁😁😁
@AlexJaneway2 жыл бұрын
I had that level of stick with my Epax E10 as well. Also ended up with a Wham-bam
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
They do make life easier 😁
@soacker252 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😁
@ajlbeer2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! That is pretty incredible.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@ChannelHTS Жыл бұрын
so cool
@DragonAtelier2 жыл бұрын
Your casts still amaze me. I had some provate issues but I am back in bussiness. Still need to carch up with all the incredible videos tou have made 😉
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! Hope all is well with you 😁😁😁
@yaRincewind2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Very impressive video :) Keep it up VOG
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks 😁
@ale62422 жыл бұрын
Wow! great stuff!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@antoniomromo2 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video. Love this even if I will never cast anything (My disability makes it so I can't be trusted around molten substances) haha. Thank you for yet again using your time and skills to help the community of people who enjoy this stuff. We appreciate you even if we don't always say it.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tony. I appreciate that 😁😁😁
@svaarcaldersson66282 жыл бұрын
very nice ring I like the design. I really wish that youtube could show all the detail, its seems to always "lose" something when it goes from video to youtube. Still waiting for your Ultra vs Mini 8k video!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Yes, some detail is lost in processing, but I hope my close-ups help a little. And Ultra vs Mini 8K, that video will be here very soon 😁
@gothikaboy2 жыл бұрын
Try using acetone for the build plate next time.
@GeekDetour2 жыл бұрын
Hi Geoff - nice video! OMG what did you do to your build plate! Well, scratching them is inevitable (like, after a year 😆) It seems to me we are approaching the limits of what the Casting Resins are capable of reproducing. During Phrozen 8k's promotional campaign, it was clear from their own photos that even their own casting resin gets a bit less detail than normal resin. Have a wonderful 2022! 🎊🎉
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Spot on. Castable resins normally don't give you the same level of detail. But nonetheless, this is pretty impressive 😁 All the best to you and yours 😁😁😁
@50design822 жыл бұрын
This machine is legendary. can you make more casting videos about it? I'm really curious about the jewelry business with this machine🔥🔥🔥
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Different castable resins, but the same printer... coming soon 😁😁😁
@andreasoberhofer74152 жыл бұрын
Hi, ich wundere mich manchmal das beim gießen das Metall im video nicht alles ganz flüssig erscheint. War das nur in dem einen take so oder ist das nicht notwendig? Bin einfach neugierig. Great channel by the way, awsom work.
@markhickson90872 жыл бұрын
So do you think we have reached the limit of detail that is needed? It seems that the casting can't quite reproduce all the detail in the 8K print. I'm not saying it is your fault by the way 🙂. For me the 8K print seems like I don't need any more detail for models etc; however, we are bound to carry on getting higher and higher spec'd machines and people looking through microscopes to see the improvement. From a casting point of view I can't imagine higher detail level will come out in the cast item.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
It's getting harder and harder to see differences with the naked eye, but there's still a little wiggle room left. I think we'll see a few more improvements in the near future 😁
@user-gk2cg2th9h2 жыл бұрын
Vog you gotta lower your base layer exposure time! Try 3 to 4x your regular layer exposure which should be somewhere between 2-4 seconds on the new mono screens. I would definitely look into the suggested exposure times for the new machine!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Trust me buddy, I have. I'm already well under the figures advised by Phrozen 😁
@thefunkyhippy77782 жыл бұрын
@vog definitely makes it look easy he is amazing. All your videos have been my teacher since my day one. Got my mini 8k but finding the correct exposure for my power resin Dark has been a hazel, partially good prints but no perfect prints. Im not that great at 3D printing tho.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Power Resins are NOT helpful with their resin settings. I've mentioned this in two reviews now. I've written to them specifically on this subject but they've ignored me. Until they change their attitude, I wouldn't recommend anyone buy their products. In the meantime you're stuck with an expensive product, so have a bash at exposure tests kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oLWadZZ315OUnqM.html If you get the chance, give Siraya Tech Cast a try. It's cheap and very effective amzn.to/33O7622
@oxyum2 жыл бұрын
@VOG Try freezing buildplate for an hour. And drop it in hot water after that to remove bottom layers (don't drop models in hot water).
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Excellent suggestions Ivan 😁
@johngrant57492 жыл бұрын
WOW.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks John 😁
@dwinegardner82512 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a comparison between the Mini 8k and the Photon Mono Ultra. Wonderful videos, keep up the great work.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Ultra vs Mini 8K, that video will be here very soon 😁
@Cless_Aurion2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, awesome video like always! I have a question though, why would you disable antialiasing when printing the ring? (Also, since I'm already bothering you... would you say the ring you printed on the Photon Ultra was better? :P)
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Antialiasing basically blurs the layer lines to create a smoother finish, in theory. The problem is this reduces overall detail. Here I'm showing the results without antialiasing so folks can decide if layer lines are an issue and decide if antialiasing is worthwhile. As for Ultra vs Mini 8K, that video will be here very soon 😁
@michaelanon2791 Жыл бұрын
Adjust z axis offset by 1 and that will go away (the issue with the prints sticking too much)
@FireballPSNMods2 жыл бұрын
Would you ever take on a project like casting a 3D printed transmission and getting it to work?
@Smidgon2 жыл бұрын
i got the sonic mighty 4k and it had the same issues with resins fusing to the build plate i had to get a flex plate for it
@juzensari25892 жыл бұрын
yesss
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@zaprodk2 жыл бұрын
Water lavel :D
@admiralbees16902 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, and lovely ring. Not got around to testing my Mini 8k yet after all the whining about getting it! I'll be sure to watch out for the buildplate issue, although to be honest I've got something similar happening on the Mars 3. Can be a right bugger to pop off the prints.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I cannot fault the printer. It's excellent. The plates a pain though 😁
@catnamestaken2 жыл бұрын
Cool
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
😁😁😁
@AkilJacob2 жыл бұрын
Can this be done with gold and silver to make jewelry?
@jorgeayos6147 Жыл бұрын
Excuse me, what type of resin did you finally use to make the ring apart from the flex plate???
@Coins19692 жыл бұрын
Is there a flex plate for the sonic mini 8k?
@tjitskevanherwaarden50052 жыл бұрын
What i am wondering after all those printers you are testing and using, what is your "go to" printer? I have a small printfarm with 10 anycubics photon mono x printers and printing 24/7 but not getting my printers printing reliable and consistently. What would you recommend to buy for someone how is looking for a resin printer that is sturdy, consistant, reliable with good quality with the same or bigger print volume? No budget.
@glitchinthematrix93062 жыл бұрын
So this is your nr1 printer for resin casting metals ?
@fredrick_leicht Жыл бұрын
wham bam works great on larger printers but the smaller ones the magnets are not strong enough to hold the metal plate still and you end up with fading in your prints. When I reached out the wham bam to discuss the issue I got a slap to the face.
@choknuti2 жыл бұрын
This wont work for the wax resin but for normal prints switching to water washable resin has solved all my plate sticking problems. Once the print is finished just rinse the plate in a container with warm water (I use an empty paint container with water around 40c) for a couple of minutes, and it comes off with no hassle whatsoever.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the share 😁
@bap202 жыл бұрын
You've covered an affordable vacuum chamber (going to build one ASAP) but your home-built kiln is still highly complex. Is it possible to burn out the resin using a propane torch, and some heat bricks to build a "kiln"?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
The burnout oven is the most important stage really. It's not something that can be hacked in any way. All those long hours at high heat burn away waxes and resins to nothing and make the plaster porous. I keep hounding companies for a cheaper alternative.
@mrpawno49552 жыл бұрын
Ring looks really good! When does the comparison to the ultra come?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Ultra vs Mini 8K, that video will be here very soon 😁
@fourfingerfriend8182 жыл бұрын
The casting looks great. Is this been your best cast from a resin 3d printer?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
It's the best level of detail I've seen in a casting and that's because of the printer 😁
@jamesm32682 жыл бұрын
Just polish the build plate with wet and dry sand paper to a higher grit and you will be fine.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I've already done that James... more than once 😁
@changesnothing87892 жыл бұрын
im so getting one... still would like an ultra though but have not heard anything on availability
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
My hopes for printing lie with DLP because the Ultra impressed me so much. But the Mini 8K is already next level printing 😁
@blaze55692210 ай бұрын
why are you using metal on the build plate to begin with?
@ads3q2 жыл бұрын
Hello, is it possible If I can try and purchase your services.
@roddy72562 жыл бұрын
What about a flex plate for mega 8k?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure a flex plate could work on something that large, given the suction forces involved. 😁
@roddy72562 жыл бұрын
@@vogman the pre would need holes as well your right might be too crazy I just don’t wanna scratch up mine lol
@MakeABoom2 жыл бұрын
I've noticed your build plate doesn't have that frosted pattern on it - did you receive a different type of plate or sand it back?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
It DID have the laser etched surface (check the original review) but I've since sanded most of this away to try and help the sticking issue 😁
@matthewasgari1942 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I have an original Anycubic Photon and I’m ready to upgrade… would you recommend the Sonic Mini 8K or the Anycubic Photon Ultra? I really don’t know which one to get.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I'm working on a comparison video Matt that should hopefully be out next week. With luck this will give you plenty of info and food for though to aid your decision 😁
@andreasoberhofer74152 жыл бұрын
Hi, I sometimes wonder that when casting the metal in the video it doesn't all seem quite liquid. Was that just in the one take or is that not necessary? Am just curious.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
The temperature needs to be just right, hot enough to flow but not too hot as it will spoil the casting 😁
@zachofalltrades61162 жыл бұрын
vog where can i get this file for the ring?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to say I can't give away or share what isn't mine. You can try having a word with Juan (his details are in the description) though I'd guess he's looking to manufacture and sell his work. Talented guy I'm sure you'll agree.
@---rq2dr2 жыл бұрын
link to the printer doesn't work
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Possibly the deals finished 😁
@DisgruntledPigumon2 жыл бұрын
“Bottom layer times halved” from what? Halve it again. And again. At some point the resin won’t stick. Win win.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, that's what I've been doing.
@LordAtrix2 жыл бұрын
seeing as you have not long published this video the link for the PHROZEN MINI 8K SPECIAL OFFER is not currently working (unless its all used up)
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
It looks like the special offer is over.
@secondarycontainment47272 жыл бұрын
That vampire looks a heck of a lot like Gavin Newsome (govorner of California)...
@jesselewis76412 жыл бұрын
link not working *** PHROZEN MINI 8K SPECIAL OFFER ***
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
I think the offer has expired now 🙁
@rixter692 жыл бұрын
how many time you need for print one ring?
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
To cast a ring? One print for one ring if you're using castable resin. 😁
@rixter692 жыл бұрын
@@vogman I mean time. 15 min, 30, 1 hour 7 hours? Everyone says a different time. (Thanks for your reply)
@AT-gu8by2 жыл бұрын
Ooh that hurts!
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
It did 😁😁😁
@whatthefunction91402 жыл бұрын
I need a resin printer 🖨 😫
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Prices are coming down and even the lowest price resin printers can produce some amazing results. I've even seen them appearing on eBay second hand. So keep the faith. You'll get there 😁
@noviceartisan2 жыл бұрын
I think you've over-over-overexposing the bottom layers by like 10 seconds with that stuff on the 8k 🤣🤣 You need far less exposure to solidly adhere it to the base print than you think.
@vogman2 жыл бұрын
Trust me David, on any other printer my bottom layer settings would be under-exposed... 😁