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Ngl the best scene in this entire show was when that cop ran her over.

Harley Quinn, in her show, actually CARES about her fellow super villain friends. That's how weirdly messed up this is. Harley, who's a notable VILLAIN, actually gives a damn, Velma, who's supposed to be the HERO, acts incredibly scummy.

Velma didn’t just fail it’s main character, it failed everyone involved. Especially it’s audience.

They wanted to make Velma a Daría clone so badly without understanding why people liked Daria

The irony is that they're trying for Velma to be depicted as a fish out of water surrounded by negative stereotypes and fools, when she actually is the worst product of the environment she criticises. She is shallow, toxic, playing for advantage and hates anyone doing better than her. She is the worst individual in the show, and the fact Kaling celebrates this character shows how radioactive she is as a real person.

I love that Mindy said she wanted to make a show based on "the one who actually solved the mysteries" and then the show has literally everyone else solving her mystery

It’s funny how Fred, the actual strawman that you’re supposed to hate more than Velma, is more likable than her simply due to the fact that his bad actions are consistently not being excused by the writers.

With this Velma thing, they would have made it about a fan girl from the "mystery gang" (who would also be called Velma) who tries to solve her own mysteries Velma-style (which doesn't work for her at first) and then with help of friends would form their own group and use their own way of solving crimes

You know what's funny? All I'm hearing from the 2nd half is how everyone BUT Velma is good at solving mysteries and together they'd make a killer mystery solving gang

I was immediately lost at Velma cheating off anyone’s homework much less Norville’s (Shaggy). That’s how I know they didn’t get the spirit of these characters

Makes me so glad that a show like Smiling Friends exists. While it does have dark jokes, it's one of the few adult cartoons where the main characters are likable. Even Charlie, who is written as a cynical person, is still a pretty chill guy.

My main problem with the show is that they turned Velma from a "kind and adorkable genius that loves solving mysteries" into a "racist, sexist, rude, entitled, bad friend and terrible Karen"

This is going to be a weird comparison, but Velma makes me miss The Amazing World of Gumball, in the way that they handle meta jokes and satire. In Gumball, when they would make jokes about modern topics in different episodes (ie shipping culture in “The Shippening” or JRPGs and Gaming culture in “The Console”) it never felt like they were just pointing out clichés just for the hell of it, but were actually just poking fun at them without actually trying to insult its audience. (Plus Gumball was actually funny)

Velma's biggest flaw: EVERYTHING

Fred is the best character, yet they tried to make him look like the worst. He's the only one with any form of growth as a person through the entire show...

Velma's character certainly suffers from the fact that she has no arc. She's mean/abusive to everyone, believes nothing is ever her fault, and takes the ones close to her for granted to the point that she gets upset when they don't do what she wants when she wants. Even when certain characters like Norville or Daphne try to cut ties with her, she ends up winning them back with little to no effort on her part, thus depriving her of having to learn any real lesson or bother to improve herself. By the end, the gang are still barely considered friends so there wasn't much gained from the whole mystery, character-wise.

Why do we keep losing actual good adult cartoons like Final Space, Close Enough, Inside Job and Tuca and Bertie and we get this instead?

Velma is the parking lot scene from the Simpson's Christmas special, maybe there is a winning ticket hidden in the massive piles of garbage, but the thing they really needed was a dog

It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia might be the only comedy show where every character is an obnoxious and horrible person that’s actually good and funny. I don’t know how they managed to do it but they did it. It’s annoying how every single “adult” cartoon follows that formula nowadays and is terrible at it.

When it comes to "hate watching" or purposely making something bad, I'm reminded of the saying from the movie *"Igor"* , "I'd rather be a good nobody, than an evil somebody." Is making something that gets nothing but hatred from people the only way you can get attention? Is it worth it?

You REALLY helped me realize that getting angry at Velma isn't worth it. At all. It's a bad show. And instead of ragging on it constantly, one should just...let it go. The best attention to give something you hate is NO attention.

I watched 10 minutes of velma and immediately had to go rewatch all of mystery incorporated in order to cleanse my brain 😂

Mindy is the sole definition of the word "Privilege" itself. She grew up in a upper class, went to an ivy league college & never had to struggle in her life to get where she's today now. She made Velma herself insert but this version of Fred is actually HER.

6:56 No, Velma isn't right. She comparing the reaction between her missing mother and a SERIAL KILLER preying on minors. At that point no one had any proof whether her mother was taken or had left her family, which seemed more likely given the reveal of Velma and her father's treatment of Diya. I understand what they were trying to invoke, but like all their other points, this one falls flat.

6:57. Different circumstances. Velma’s mom was a fully grown adult who ran out on her family. The victims are young high school students getting murdered via having their brains removed and their bodies stuffed in random places. I’m pretty sure one getting a bigger reaction is quite reasonable.

The concept of having the scooby doo gang be set in a rated r setting is a good idea cause I mean cmon people in monster costumes killing people and showing the deaths with the gang trying to solve it would’ve been good but then we got this garbage.

I find it funny that Fred, the character they intended to be the annoying punching bag and a "take that" to white male privilege, is largely agreed upon to be the most likable character in the show.

I love how being a "strong independent woman" is basically synonymous to being either a snarky sarcastic and degrading bitch to everyone, and/or a lesbian. No in betweens.

I have never watched an episode from this show and I’m proud of it. I’ve just followed MoistCritikal’s advice and let other people hate-watch it for me.

I hate how Velma can’t stop whining about white privilege but can’t see her own privileges, she acts like she’s living in the 50s but she’s a modern day woman living in a 1st world country, they’re middle/upper middle class family (her father is a lawyer), she has the freedom to be AND do whatever she wants (seriously disrespecting Indian parents and not getting punished? bro) Mindy can’t write likable characters even if her life depended on it

Velma seems to have "Protagonist Centered Morality", a very rookie mistake to do, I might add. For those who don't know what that means, essentially, its when a show, episode, movie, ect. says the protagonist is in the right, simply because they're the protagonist. Another good example of the same issue is in a lot of post-movie episodes of Spongebob, where Spongebob did some pretty horrible things, yet the show said he was in the right, because he's the protagonist.

This show doesn't deserve to be hate-watched, it deserves to fade off into obscurity until it's forgotten.

"Best looking Scooby Doo show" Even though the art direction and animation are the best thing about this series, I have to pull out my "Um, actually" on this one. I genuinely think Mystery Incorporated from the 2010s looks just as good in atmosphere and design.

6:58 The part about “missing white girl syndrome” and how Velma is right to call the crowd out rubs me the wrong way for a few reasons- 1. Velma’s mom, as seen in the flashback, WILLINGLY disappeared without a trace 2. Velma’s mom disappeared almost a decade ago, meanwhile the continuous murders of teenage girls is happening currently, of course they’re gonna pay more attention to that 3. The first girl ISN’T WHITE 4. Velma’s mom is a full grown women who willingly walked out on everyone. The murder victims are literal high school kids. The scene isn’t Velma being in the right and everyone is just telling her to shut up, it’s Velma getting upset about people not focusing all their attention on someone who’s been gone for years, and is trying to make the situation about her.

You know this show burned all goodwill fast when Velma and Daphne kissed and the general reaction was nothing but groans and side-eyes. It's almost impressive.

I love how every video I've watched of people criticizing Velma varies so much. Some focus on criticizing the voice acting of Velma, some on the character, some on the humor, some on the plot, and it keeps on going. This is like the opposite of Breaking Bad, and I love it.

Whenever you think Velma is going to learn a lesson- she just doesn’t

Can we just call this version of Velma Mindy? Every other version of velma can have the name Velma due to them resembling the original so well, they deserve to be called Velma, but this version... calling her Velma just feels so wrong as she is more like Mindy, her creator, compared to the lineage of Velmas before her.

I still can’t believe that the batgirl film got shelved and yet this thing got to see the light of day. For shame WB! FOR SHAAAAME!!

I genuinely hate the whole 'Nerd's Revenge' sort of character where they make the nerdy or geeky character absolutely insufferable or mean but still wanna have a misunderstood victim complex when they end up being outcasts. It's getting so rare to see nerdy characters who are just passionate about their interests without being patronizing or elitist about it.

Didn’t mystery incorporated do the Velma being kinda mean better? It had a sappho relationship with hot dog water and presented much better. Also I remember a lot of people who watched that show being disappointed that Velma acted like that but are probably grateful that it didn’t turn out like this. I also think if they wanted to make Velma mean they could have, but instead of making daphne the cliche mean girl have her be the good person, and Velma thinks she being bullied because daphne calls her out on her crap.

Honestly, the popular girls going "no bitch, we are pretty becouse WE WANT TO BE pretty" was the only good thing this show has done so far. I'm so sick of people treating those who just like beeing "stereotypicaly" atractive as lesser and pick me girls. Contrary to most peoples believes, girls don't do that stuff to atrackt boys -.- We just like pretty things, including ourselfe! And everyone has their own view of "pretty" that they want to archieve! Just becouse one doesn't aprove of someone elses view of "pretty" shouldn't mean they get a freepass to undermine that persons ability to make decitions for themself. So yeah, the popular girls pushing back and going "fuck you" was the one thing I liked in that episode. (Also , most beauty standards people asociate with beeing female, actually come from other girls. Not from man. If you want to call those poison, which they verry much can be, than you have to call out the acurate poison mixer: other women. We are feeding that poison to ourselfe.)

High school, undercut with murder mystery, the main character is an unlikable person who grows over the course of the show and is obsessed with both solving the mysterys and a personal case relating to her family that goes back much farther than the show's beginning. Wednesday is everything this show wanted to be.

This show is the perfect example of ‘good animation can not save bad characters and bad stories’

"Code for adults who still watch cartoons." proves to me that the writers and actors didn't know what they were creating, somehow. Otherwise the adult cartoon wouldn't make a tonedeaf non-joke like that.

Honestly, when the age you get for the gang is 15 and you hear Velma's dad comment about 'riding' Fred's 'baby carrot' to victory, my skin crawled like I had just caught someone I knew with indecent pictures of kids. That feeling is how I see this show in a nutshell.

As a black girl, I am so upset and embarrassed that animators (especially in hollywood) and directors continue to change main characters to either different races of color or black in order to perpetuate some kind of political message. It is honestly concerning, and it makes me feel worse about myself as it seems as though they don't believe original black characters are worth marketing. It's always changing (mainly) white characters into black characters, and then making them extremely subversive, as well as very political. Honestly this show is horrible, but it's made worse knowing that this trend will likely never change. I really wish they would stop using race as a catalyst for their politics. Instead, can't we get original shows with these kinds of diverse characters WITHOUT focusing on race so hard? It's kind of cringey and has honestly stopped making me explore new media and movies anymore. If a character is originally white then keep them that way. They wouldn't do the reverse for a character of color because then they would be called racist, but it's okay the other way around? Let's stop the hypocrisy and bring cartoons and shows back to what they were before; entertainment and stories, not political ads. Add diversity with originality!... Not copy and pasted stories :( (Btw I realize that this element is not the main subject of the topic but it is one thing that jumped out at me from the beginning because of my own personal feelings.)

It got better ngl it was still terrible but I feel so bad for the poor animators who clearly have talent bit got put on a terrible cast

I've seen people ship Velma and Daphne years prior to this and this show represented their relationship and romance terribly, especially in rushing their progression from ex friends to lovers. Call me The Riddler because "NOOOO THIS IS NOT HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO!!!".

This show had so much potential

In my opinion, no terrible reboot angers me more than Fate the Winx Saga. For starters, because at least most people know what franchises like Scooby Doo, Fantastic Four, Avatar the Last Airbender, The Powerpuff Girls, classic Disney movies and even Thundercats are and not what their reboots make them out to be. Not enough people know what Winx Club is because of either generational divide, people, usually adults, dismissing animation as a genre for kids, Western casual viewers not knowing which English dubs to choose from with most of them not being 100% accurate, Nickelodeon rebooting it as a badly written preschool show (even rerunning it on effing Nick Jr.) and now this show, presenting it to Western casual viewers as a badly written teen drama! For other reasons, not only does it whitewash two of its' characters, it's also borderline racist, fatphobic, biphobic, has terrible LGBT rep, terrible special effects, terrible fashion and is just uncreative at everything they do. Most of the characters are either a-holes or harmful stereotypes or even both. And I hate the excuse that if I separate the show from the source material, that'll I actually like it. If I have to do that, then that's how you know how much it failed as an adaptation. I'll admit I feel bad for the casual fanbase since this show became yet another cancelhanger victim (cancelled on a cliffhanger) but besides them and other crew members who were just doing their job regardless of what show they're making, I feel no sympathy for no one. If anything good came out of it, is that introduced the Western casual fans to the REAL Winx Club with the Rai English aka Cinelume dub or both Rai English dub and 4Kids dub since both have some great qualities.

Inside Job did , , almost everything Velma tried . BUT FAR BETTER . Its sad it went before its time . . .

The main problem, in my opinion, with the new series is that it will be some people's first exposure to the concept of Scooby Doo and will ruin the franchise for them, so they'll never see the true masterpieces that were the OG show and Mystery Incoporated

It's absolutely crazy that this show that was touted about being about the smart girl of the group getting the credit for being the one who solves the mysteries is full of all the other characters basically gifting her what she needs to 'solve' the mystery.

Probably the most civil take on the Velma show I've seen.

I always feel like getting a notebook because Sarcastic Chorus take us to writing class every video 💛🙏🏼

I mean the objectivly worst and toxic character being voiced by someone who tried to joke on a late night show about SAing someone becuase she has no self control on an active movie set is rather.... fitting.

I feel like this isn’t even Velma. Velma has always been brilliant, sweet, capable and a little awkward but in a cute way. This doesn’t even feel like Velma

I think we can all agree that Velma was trying to be Harley Quinn. But it didn’t work. Harley Quinn is such a great show.

Honestly the issue with her missing mom is The disappearance of a grown woman was not happy in her marriage and could have just left like I'm her Father literally thought that she abandoned them. The death of the three or so girls is a thing that has a victim's and you have bodies.

Wait… Velma. Sucks at solving mysteries? That’s why people love this character to begin with.

For some reason everyone keeps saying "at least it has good animation" but outside of the visions it all looks post to post and comes off like a 90's Adult swim show trying to ape mystery inc because it was popular.

also after velma figured out fred couldn't be the killer only to blow his trial and have him sent to jail and forget he's innocent in the next episodes. She faces no internal consequences for her actions, she jumped to the conclusion that fred was the killer got him shot in the legs and nothing comes of it, she's not even sorry. Finding her mom is supposed to make her sympathetic but even when she realizes she's an awful person, to her mom, to her parents, to her friends, to even the social circles she's a part of she doesn't stop being awful, because of this her making a point about her mom being missing and no one cares comes off as whiny. the moments of "character growth" are almost always dropped by the next set of episodes. Fred was shot in the legs and yet he's fine he's walking as if nothing happened. Velma realizes she needs norville only to insult him and be mean to him at every turn. one could argue Rick also has reasons for being a dick, but faces consequences either internally or externally Velma doesn't. It's like they fused Rick from Rick and Morty with Meg from Family Guy and copy pasted Velma's clothes onto the fusion

It's funny that they made Velma a character of color and has interest in girls(I think?) BUT they made it so bad that even the black community and lgbt+ community hates that character

I quite liked the side character locker 22, phenomenal performance and interactions all around.

a couple of things I'd like to add to the Rick and Morty comparison: Throughout the series its shown that Rick actually does have some love for his family even if he tends to be unknowing or just incapable of properly expressing that love, while its made painstakingly clear that Mindy's Velma gives less than zero shits about anyone but herself. Also It's occasionally shown/ mentioned that Rick downright hates himself because he recognizes that as a person he is very flawed but doesn't know (or sometimes can't be bothered) to improve himself. By contrast Mindy Velma is convinced that she is God's gift to the world and that there could never be anything wrong with herself despite all her obvious crap that we, the audience, and even the characters in the show themselves can plainly see.

When me and my family watched the show and saw the scene where Velma gets hit by a car all of us jumped out of our seats and started clapping

Never been here so earlier so i'm still watching this video as i'm typing but I got to say after finishing Velma, I just hate how (spoiler I guess if anyone actually want to look at the ending) that literally everyone gets a shitty ending (Daphne loses her popularity, Fred loses his mom and his mom is the bad guy, And Shaggy/Norville gets PTSD for killing Fred's mom) while Velma basically gets credited for being a great detective, and even her relationships with everyone only slightly mad at her like she isn't really abusive towards them, gets her mom back, and over-all has a "good" ending. From my understanding, I thought she was supposed to grow as a character? But handing her victory and barely calling her out for her bullshit and a last-ditch effort to make it seems like she "cares" for Shaggy/Norville is non-sensical to me and very poorly written I don't even care that she was supposed to be an asshole character, I care that like many characters of this archetype, just ends up failing to make it work and ends up just making a very unlikeable character to us as viewers but not disliked enough in the series' universe (Her "friends" for example) when it is 100% deserved. I was genuinely having faith that they would fix this since I hate judging by the first 3 episodes but the fact that it only double-downs on her behavior, especially in the last 2 episodes showcases a lot of the problems of the show as a whole, it is disappointing that it might not even get better in season 2 (iirc there is going to be one) I guess it just feels like the character simply accepts that they are an asshole but gets rewarded for it so it's okay, instead of "hey I'm an asshole, I know I am but I'm trying to get better" which is what I thought the show was leading towards but finishing it clearly it really was just a self-insert of a real person who thinks their behavior is okay when in fact it's disgusting, racist, sexist, manipulative, and over-all just an abusive asshole that nobody should ever have to deal with. It is such a shame that the only time I ever actually see the asshole archetype work is stuff like Bojack or Always sunny in Philadelphia where they actually get their comeuppance or something similar. It also hurts since Velma is already a well-established character that has plenty of history to work with this new way of going about her character such as even her snarkiness and sassiness that could have played more naturally. They could had her be bitter and shitty at first due to her mom missing but could had easily had her eventually warming up and overcoming that to being the character that we all know and love or at least a tragic character that we see as someone who is an asshole but we as viewers knows that she will be better, not the other way around where the show says she will be better or already is better by the end. Sorry this is long it just kind of upsetting to me to see that shows/novels/comics like this fail to make compelling main characters over and over again since the person who creates it put themself into the MC too much like "I'm not starfire" being a great example of the same exact issue Velma has with it's MC and with the ending of rewarding their behavior instead of self-reflecting that their behavior was dogshit

Im at least glad someone else agrees that velma gets better as it goes along. Id go as far as to say its almost watchable and I did want to see more after getting through the first couple episodes

Best review of this show I’ve seen yet, you nailed it about them trying to have it both ways! Good job!

This was a really thought out and well rounded review.

Bro is being waaaay too nice to this show

I think a better character arc would be Velma realizing despite her being smart and right in cases, she needs to learn to respect the opinions of others and how to use tact when talking about the issues important to her.

"gets better as it goes" thats the problem, you have to watch the show

So basically, they're trying to make Velma the new Bojack Horseman while completely missing the point on why Bojack worked as a character.

This is the review I've been waiting to watch, the one that isn't the knee jerk reaction of 'this is different and there for bad' or the tag alongs who shit on the show because its the cool thing to do. This is the review that took its time to understand what the show wanted to do and still said 'yeah this show is kinda mid'

Maybe it’s a new kinda show where you want the main character to die, but the killer gets stopped by Velma’s “friends”

There was no mystery. It was a scavenger hunt.

It's almost like they wanted to make another Cartman, but failed to realize what made Cartman so great in the first place🤔

I hate the “Everyone just won’t stop shitting on this” argument because it’s brought up under the assumption that millions of people with the same opinion can’t express it all at once. Just because you see a thousand people shitting on it, won’t stop you from sharing YOUR thousandth and one opinion on the show (also not liking it). If you don’t want to see hate for something, then get off twitter because that’s literally the only place I’ve ever even seen it brought up “There’s too much hate!” or “The hate is overblown” is such a ridiculous statement that if people shared in that sentiment, the Naruto community would not collectively hate and shit on Sakura Haruno and if that just blew your mind, you’re part of the problem

I like that you’re a lot more sympathical with this show than most people( like saying the animation is good) while pointing out the negatives instead of just yelling in the mic over it.

If Be Cool Scooby Doo had this shows animation style, it would've been the most popular Scooby Doo show after Mystery Incorporated.

Heroes act like villains, and villains act like heroes. This the dichotomy that current Hollywood wants. They want us to sympathize with the villains but at the same time make the heroes out to be bad guys yet still win despite being extremely antagonistic to everyone.

and you can feel sympathy for Fred because you see how he is just trying to be what his father wants

2:53 wait, when SHE wants to cheat off his homework?

This is such a realistic and honest review

7:07 I feel like velma was some what in the wrong in that situation sense those weren't missing people,they were literally people getting murder. I can see why velma would be upset that no one bothered to look for her mom but she still acted like a narssacist by making a situation of murder teens all about her.

What mostly eerks me about the show is how 1. They try to fight racism with racism. I understand making fun of racism (I don't condone it, just understand it.) But they take it way too far to the point where it's no longer a joke. 2. These characters are so shitty and unlikable. 3. They tried too hard to make this show a "funny adult cartoon." That they make adult humor that is more offensive than funny. Adult cartoons don't need to make fun of racism or sexism to be considered an adult show. And it sucks that they think of it that way. And 4. How it feels like the author is just making a self insert fan fiction with this show. It doesn't feel like a Scooby-Doo inspired show, yet it doesn't feel like it's own unique show either. It's just lazy bad writing. Which sucks cause the animation is gorgeous.

Good on you for throwing the animators a bone.

im fifty five and still enjoy cartoons.. from loony tunes to southpark and most other bright colourful moving pictures..

This show made me want to watch Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated a show I've only seen on passing, and I binged it in a week.

From the few bits I was able to watch of Velma (largely through reviews), I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves Fred. He's so divorced from his usual depiction, but at least he's consistent in it and the difference adds to the hilarity. It's easier to keep my smile when he's on-screen because he's so silly, and not really malicious in his meanness compared to other characters. He's just Like That. He's this pocket of silly nonsense and as you said, his voice actor was KILLING it. I wanna hear this guy in more roles.

I really appreciated your video! I feel like a lot of Velma videos I've seen have dunked on the show without giving clear analysis--the way that you put together the problems and wove together the evidence in the video crafted a great argument for me that really highlighted my feelings on the show. Thanks!

"It improves after the second episode." Is someone from HBO holding you hostage?

It's like it tried to be _Netflix's WEDNESDAY The Crude and Raunchy Version_ except it forgot to be tasteful, good, and not insulting.

They really don't understand what makes an angry, spiteful main character good. A show that comes to my mind is Dan Vs. It's about the main character, Dan, getting angry at something every episode. The reason why it's great is because even though he gets irrationally angry at things, he is not cruel to his friends. He has a reason why he's angry and his sheer dedication to getting revenge makes it funny. In this show, most of the time Velma is cruel to people who are supposed to be her friend (or love interest), she gets mad for no reason, and she does a lot of bad things with no consequences.

you put it so well into words! the animation is great, the voice acting is good, the production value works! the writing just messes it all up. this was a super well writen video! puts my thoughts of the show into words to a T

it's like gallows humor, except Velma is both the one hanging from the noose and the executioner. AND the audience. And also the person being hung is everyone else. and norville is being held at gunpoint forced to laugh

I'm glad someone gave this show a more objective take on reviewing this show and still calling it bad. Having its cake and eating it too and/or calling Velma both Rick and Morty is a great analogy.