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Versus Series: Dooku Vs Darth Malgus

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Jensaarai One

Jensaarai One

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My return to my Versus series.

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@AntoineBandele
@AntoineBandele 11 жыл бұрын
Because he has no physical limbs!
@thedutchwolf97
@thedutchwolf97 9 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that Malgus' resiprator doubles his oxygen intake, which makes his reactions incredibly much faster.
@buscemisalami6283
@buscemisalami6283 8 жыл бұрын
+tfl1997 if your talking about the mountain being dropped on him then yes he did survive that.
@thedutchwolf97
@thedutchwolf97 8 жыл бұрын
+Sith ari Yeah, that's the 'accident' that forced him to wear a respirator. It gives him double oxygen intake, which increases his senses considerably.
@buscemisalami6283
@buscemisalami6283 8 жыл бұрын
+tfl1997 sorry that was meant for a different comment haha^^
@rawtheran9319
@rawtheran9319 10 жыл бұрын
Personally I think that Dooku would be able to take out Malgus with his force abilities
@RyuKaguya
@RyuKaguya 10 жыл бұрын
the same way he beat anakin in the third movie.....wait.
@rex7on
@rex7on 10 жыл бұрын
RyuKaguya RotS Anakin shits on Malgus due to hes skills.
@RyuKaguya
@RyuKaguya 10 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader and anakin is NOT the one fighting malgus here...
@rex7on
@rex7on 9 жыл бұрын
RyuKaguya I brought Anakin because he was the only one whom was able to overwhelm Dooku's defence. Mace couldn't do it and Malgus is no way near Mace. Anakin has filled Dooku's vision with blue ( he appeared as a blur ) not to mention hes lightsaber strikes were discribed as an unstoppable meteor. Malgus was not capable of such things.
@RyuKaguya
@RyuKaguya 9 жыл бұрын
Darth Vader such a long time to bring up a dead topic.
@Anton_the_Vampire
@Anton_the_Vampire 10 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy comparisons that include Count Dooku, and I really wish that people did a LOT more of them! As to this match up, and a few others that I have seen, pitting Dooku against so-called "power users", people always accuse Dooku of the same short-comings, notably, lack of speed, lack of strength, etc. The fact is, Dooku survived into his mid 80s and was STILL one of, if not THE preeminent duelist of his era. It was said that ONLY Yoda and Mace Windu could match him. Considering the much noted power of Mace Windu, and the blinding speed of Yoda, isn't it reasonable to assume that Dooku, knowing his own shortcomings better than anyone, would have developed tactics for nullifying those weakness....and thus the advantages of others? After all, he had 80 years to do so! Additionally, we see several examples of Dooku's speed and agility, both in Episode II, where he faces Yoda, and the Clone Wars cartoon. The fight in season six, where Dooku goes to clean up the trial of Syfo Dias is a perfect example of how far beyond both Obi-wan and Anakin Dooku STILL is. He matches the speed and agility of not one Jedi in his prime, but TWO. (Dooku in Episode III is VERY badly written, and I do feel just thrown away to make way for Vader) On Force powers, Dooku is matched ONLY by Yoda. Almost any other Force user he encounters he completely out-classes in both refinement and MAGNITUDE. Case in point, his throwing Obi-wan around like a rag doll in Episode III, and his exquisite torture of Asajj Ventress (one finger no less!) in the novel "Dark Rendezvous". Also, Dooku's lightning is as effective as Malgus', when you consider the effect it has on the unprepared Anakin Skywalker in episode II. Dooku could easily have killed him there and then, but he wanted to hurt him, to humiliate him, and have Obi-wan watch, helpless. He achieves that end beautifully. I know you said that this battle is close, and I agree, it is. I just think that a man of Dooku's vast experience and longevity would "find a way to win" against the younger, stronger Malgus. After-all, he'd been doing that his whole career! Like yours though, this is just my opinion.
@STR33TSofJUST1C3
@STR33TSofJUST1C3 10 жыл бұрын
Could not have said it better myself, sir.
@darkgreenrifleman4871
@darkgreenrifleman4871 10 жыл бұрын
Darth tyranus is my favorite character and finally somebody articulates what ive been saying. Sword skill and smarts can trump brute strengh most of the time. Dooku made obi wan look irrelavent. Yoda couldn't beat him either. A calm calculated sith lord with sword skill. thats the floyd mayweather of force users.
@lizardC549
@lizardC549 9 жыл бұрын
I would like to see count dooku vs darth plagueis
@Anton_the_Vampire
@Anton_the_Vampire 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed lizard .master . I'd also love to see Dooku versus Revan. I think that would be a really good, close match!
@KumaoftheForest
@KumaoftheForest 5 жыл бұрын
Gary Ormond my question is: did anyone else master Makashi to the same degree as Count Dooku
@RideThruSpace
@RideThruSpace 10 жыл бұрын
I see dooku winning through use of tactics. As in another of your videos you stated malgus has tactical tunnel vision
@Thelure2112
@Thelure2112 10 жыл бұрын
I've watched a few of his videos. I feel like he is a little bias at times. I means even in this video he said "Dooku is more power in the force" but "Malgas gets the edge". Left me scratching my head.
@jojo123853
@jojo123853 10 жыл бұрын
exactly lol
@TheNuisanceBird
@TheNuisanceBird 7 жыл бұрын
A little? lol
@DTheCritical
@DTheCritical 3 жыл бұрын
@Grapthar's Hebrew Hammer I think he meant Dooku has more skill or his power in the force is spread more thinly where as Malgus is literally almost soley focused on using the force to be a tank (both offensive and defensively) and hes a more angry fighter (which gives him a major dark side amp) where as Dooku is dark cold I always thought of him as more a Dark Gray Jedi than a real sith I mean he can still use force heal despite aiming towards the darkside. Dooku doesn't even have the sith yellow/red eyes so I question how committed to the darkside he is he sees it more as a means to an end than the "be all end all"
@Dragonflyjones67
@Dragonflyjones67 9 жыл бұрын
Dooku knows the weaknesses of all 7 lightsaber forms. Not only that, his force skills is well-honed. A lot better than malgus. But despite that, malgus is not arrogant, dooku is, also over-confident. But unless dooku has a no nonsense approach. He'll kill malgus in a duel
@branphillips9546
@branphillips9546 9 жыл бұрын
Brett Jackson Dooku is far less experienced in battle than Malgus, who lived and breathed war for decades battling Jedi as well as soldiers on open battlefields; often outnumbered and placed in extremely chaotic yet fluid situations. Between the aristocratic fencer or the brutal butcher from the trenches, I choose Malgus.
@mannytawo904
@mannytawo904 8 жыл бұрын
People are forgetting Malagus's amazing telepathic skills that win him pretty much every fight.
@Dragonflyjones67
@Dragonflyjones67 8 жыл бұрын
Manny Tawo That's the biggest fallacy ever. Malgus has no telepathic skills, whatsoever!
@mannytawo904
@mannytawo904 8 жыл бұрын
+Brett Jackson I'm sorry what did you say? Malagus won all his fights with his telepathic skill except for Satele because she is mentally almost impenetrable. They even incorporated it into the game in his final battle he literally immobilizes you, he first discovered he had it/ used it for the first time on Kao cen Darach after his master died.
@Dragonflyjones67
@Dragonflyjones67 8 жыл бұрын
Manny Tawo You was told this before. And many others can tell you that Malgus has no telepathic abilities. Darach was killed because of exhaustion, he could not prolong another fight with Malgus after he taken down Vindican. That's why he resorted to long range assaults with objects hurl at him. At the end, Malgus used force rage to take Darach out. Vindican wasn't even dead, after Darach stab him through the gut. Malgus killed him, and took his title. Satele beat Malgus because of her battle experience. Malgus wasn't a easy sith to take out. He was one of the elite as well as Shan. If you watch the prologue movie with the Old Republic. And stop going by game play. You'll see that Malgus was all skill, and no mind tricks, which is again, a major fallacy.
@cheekclapper6915
@cheekclapper6915 9 жыл бұрын
Dooku is not as good as you fan boys said. Malgus killed countless hundreds of jedi, brought down the temple, and his rage gave him the throne for a short time name as the false emperor. Dooku is being put on too high of a pedestal. Don't just read the comics and books, watch the clone wars. That will show you how intelligent dooku really is.
@banethesithari
@banethesithari 9 жыл бұрын
" Dooku is not as good as you fan boys said." dooku beat anakin and obi wan at the same time ,windu and held his own against yoda malgus wouldn't be able to do any of that. "Malgus killed countless hundreds of jedi" yes over several decades and almost all of them were just average jedi "brought down the temple" with an army not by himself "his rage gave him the throne for a short time name as the false emperor." so ? "Dooku is being put on too high of a pedestal." prove it
@cheekclapper6915
@cheekclapper6915 9 жыл бұрын
banethesithari I for one, do not like either. I'm a sith sorcerer fan. Yes I know that he was considered one of the best Blademaster of the era, but he is not that good. Not sidious or grandmaster luke level where the fan boys are elevating him too. as for malgus, he did claim the name of emperor even if it was false. He just isn't that weak, even if the video puts him in that light.
@banethesithari
@banethesithari 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Jiang "Yes I know that he was considered one of the best Blademaster of the era, but he is not that good. Not sidious or grandmaster luke level where the fan boys are elevating him too. " nobody has elevated him to that level and he doesnt need to be that level to be a better duelist than malgus. " as for malgus, he did claim the name of emperor even if it was false. He just isn't that weak, even if the video puts him in that light." how exactly did the video portray him as weak ?
@cheekclapper6915
@cheekclapper6915 9 жыл бұрын
banethesithari Have you read the other comments? To even back your claim. After every star wars argument video, I go and read through pages of comments to see what other people think. And people have, as I have said before, put him on a pedestal.
@banethesithari
@banethesithari 9 жыл бұрын
Daniel Jiang reply to a comment that compares dooku to sidious or grand master luke and tag me in that comment
@WorstScenarios
@WorstScenarios 10 жыл бұрын
I want to see Darth Malgus vs Darth Maul.
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsaiyan
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodsaiyan 3 жыл бұрын
Darth maul wouldn't stand a chance against malgus
@vadimananenko2452
@vadimananenko2452 2 жыл бұрын
Dooku still gives more challenge to malgus than maul. But I can see maul winning if it's pure saber duel. Malgus will overwhelm him in force fight only
@LaneEntertainment1
@LaneEntertainment1 11 жыл бұрын
Totally agreeable points! But than again we also forget of Darth Malgus' agility. He is an incredible machine when it comes to movement, and he can out maneuver defensive blocks and parries that Dooku upholds. But than again, Dooku's Force abilities is the only thing keeping Darth Malgus from achieving victory in a 1v1 fight.
@DeathMessenger1988
@DeathMessenger1988 10 жыл бұрын
The Nightsisters' poison was made with Sith Magic, so it ain't a common poison or disease Jedi and Sith can shrug off. But everything else is solid. I agree, Malgus would inevitably win, though Dooku would put one hell of a fight. Also, his body count is bigger. He freaking laid waste to the Jedi Temple, something only Anakin did eons later. Now Anakin vs. Malgus, that would be the duel of the century!
@peypeydean1546
@peypeydean1546 7 жыл бұрын
Malgus wins 7-8 times out of ten because of his greater use of the force and tactical engunity.
@TheNuisanceBird
@TheNuisanceBird 6 жыл бұрын
+PeyPey Dean I'm not so sure. Anakin takes physicality and saber's and should be able to hold his own in Force. I used to favor Malgus in that fight although after taking a closer look at Anakin in the ROTS novel Anakin > Malgus becomes more apparent.
@RealE1981
@RealE1981 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheNuisanceBird I don't think so. Anakin had great potential with the force, but he didn't train in it as much. The think Malgus would win that fight as well
@TheNuisanceBird
@TheNuisanceBird 4 жыл бұрын
RealE1981 It still didn’t stop him from being ridiculously powerful. If you want my opinion on Anakin’s ranking you should watch the versus series counter I did with Anakin.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 2 жыл бұрын
This is one on one combat though and Dooku as a Jedi and Sith was not too far behind Yoda And Sidious in terms of power and skill only a few points below them
@nightdevil6666
@nightdevil6666 9 жыл бұрын
Malgus = coolest sith hands down.
@iikaster3830
@iikaster3830 8 жыл бұрын
+Quinton Hall Yass
@carl1217
@carl1217 8 жыл бұрын
my favourite sith lord is malgus, words cannot describe my feelings for malgus
@nightdevil6666
@nightdevil6666 8 жыл бұрын
linus gamer I feel the same way. He's like Hitler if he wasn't a racist but still a conqueror and not mentally handicapped lol
@moltenharddrive8880
@moltenharddrive8880 8 жыл бұрын
+Quinton Hall What about Vader?
@nightdevil6666
@nightdevil6666 8 жыл бұрын
Molten Hard Drive Vader is awesome but malgus is just a tier higher in my eyes
@jeste4187
@jeste4187 9 жыл бұрын
Seriously? Malgus out duels dooku due to power??? C'mon man. The whole point of Makashi is to focus the blade to be an offensive and defensive tool and a bumbling power strike could easily be parried by a master like dooku, and those that got by dooku could easily be compensated by lightning. I STRONGLY disagree with you on this one, man.
@Userius1
@Userius1 9 жыл бұрын
It's not a "bumbling" power strike. Anakin's strikes in ROTS were both extremely powerful and quick. Making a powerful strike does not require you to be immobile for a whole second after making it. As shown in cinematics, Malgus is not "bumbling" either.
@Theorcman2008
@Theorcman2008 9 жыл бұрын
Bottom line Malgus was alpha as fuck and dooku is an old washed up fool who got super tired fighting a padawan Anakin Skywalker. If that tired him out what do you think would happen when fighting Malgus? dont be a fool.
@jeste4187
@jeste4187 9 жыл бұрын
Even though dooku was old and no peak, his style was geared toward minimizing movement while maximizing efficiency. He doesn't need youth while he has the force and as we all know...styles make fights. All power strikes in the direction of a makashi god like the count are considered bumbling because he was so adept to it. I'm not saying it would be easy, but dooku is solid. I would say that he is superior to even palpatine in regards to his style, but he truly gains the advantage through his use of the force to complement his dueling. I'm sorry, but Malgus is nothing that dooku hasn't seen before.
@Theorcman2008
@Theorcman2008 9 жыл бұрын
***** All he would have to do was get in close using his saber to block the lightning and in a straight up fight Malgus smashes the shit out of dooku. Like I said before a young anakin skywalker killed dooku what do you think malgus would have done?
@Theorcman2008
@Theorcman2008 9 жыл бұрын
***** I still think if Anakin Skywalker can kill him Malgus can. I think if Dooku couldnt find a way to slip in a kill stroke to malgus he would tire and fall under the HARD pressure of fighting somebody as bloodthirsy and as powerful as malgus. and I think just slicing him or stabbing him will kill him need to take his head or nothing.
@carlosdelacadiz6658
@carlosdelacadiz6658 8 жыл бұрын
Malgus aggressive style would overwhelm Dooku much like Anakin did.
@JRGProjects
@JRGProjects 3 жыл бұрын
Only worse. Anakin only did so due to Palpatine teaching him about Dark Side Channeling. Malgus is already a Sith.
@firstname8046
@firstname8046 3 жыл бұрын
Not really anakin was very fast and strong for a slower opponent he could easily redirect
@carlosdelacadiz6658
@carlosdelacadiz6658 3 жыл бұрын
@@firstname8046 I like Darth Tyranus dueling style but against Darth Malgus I don't think all that fancy sabre work would make much difference. Malgus fought much like Darth Vader, basically a Sith Tank and fancy sabre skills aint gonna beat a tank.
@Korraganitar
@Korraganitar 10 жыл бұрын
This one seems correct in my eyes. Tyrannus was mighty for a sith of his era, but there is ample evidence that much knowledge was lost due to Bane's rule of two and the prior conflicts. Malgus was a Sith in his element; War. He would have fought in more battles to the death, against both Force using and non force using foes, than Dooku could have imagined. While Dooku was amazingly skilled, he would have lacked the true, refined killer instinct that Malgus would have.
@michaelterrell5061
@michaelterrell5061 Жыл бұрын
He was the more skilled duelist and should have won. He was comparable to both Yoda and Mace who were two of the best duelists of all time with the former being the best ever in the Jedi order. I don’t get why Jenssarai has such a hard on for form five users.
@klue507
@klue507 Жыл бұрын
@@michaelterrell5061 Dooku has never seen a fighter on darth malgus’ level. Dooku was a duelist, not a warrior that has seen the front line of constant war. Also, dooku is nothing in a fight without a lightsaber. The Jedi of the fallen era are overall weak compared to the old republic era Jedi. Darth sidious actually learned of one of his most powerful abilities (force tempest) through his study of darth malgus, and sidious respected what he knew of malgus. Darth vader, Anakin, dooku, obi wan, non of theses guys where even close. Very few Sith Lords have accomplishments on malgus’ level. Satele Chan even feared malgus and would of lost 2 fights with malgus if it weren’t for her friends saving her. If it’s a fight with light sabers or hand to hand, very few could manage against malgus. Malgus is severely underrated, and is only second to vitiate in the old republic era. Even then, if it’s a fight between them, vitiate would have to resort to some serious force powers to overcome him, and believe me, if vitiate tried force lightning like he did with revan, malgus would tank it. You should respect malgus more (everyone should), after all, he is the only Sith left with an active story, also he goes against the norms of the Sith social structure, like not being a nazi, having some sense of honor, and keeping his word when given. In the current story malgus is like 90 years old and has never fallen out of his prime. The Sith themselves capture him, and brainwash him to fight for them, against the Jedi. They where willing to take that risk, because he is that powerful. Just trying to convince you of malgus’ awesomeness, no disrespect meant.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 7 ай бұрын
​@@klue5071. Dooku even as a Jedi Initiate at 7 years old was able to beyond simply lift a plant that weighed many hundreds of pounds in reference 99.9 force users his age have lots of strain and itching lifting leafs and Dooku said how it felt like lifting a feather showing no fatigue at all. 2. At nine years old as a Padawan he above easily beat everyone in force battle competitions based on force shields, force barriers, force senses, and telekinesis at this 12 and under tournament and push feather championship that are based on keeping your own force defenses up while breaking through others he was so good at it that he was the only student Yoda ever had to put slight effort into beating and was the only person Yoda did not let win. 3. As a Jedi Knight he taught classes on telekinesis and was able to lift very heavy objects very smoothly without fail or error all the council chairs and all the other furniture he lifted all at the same time moving around rapidly. He also was able to easily lift about five of the Muntuur Stones all weight many many tons. 4. His force reflexes were so good especially as a Jedi Master that only Yoda was able to break through them in force combat and lightsaber combat although with high difficulty and by TPM Era as a Jedi he was slightly below Yoda as a force user and either tied with or slightly above Mace. 5. Dooku was one of the few Jedi Knights that survived the battle against The Mandalorians so Dooku was a top tier leading field agent with lightsaber skills and force use against multiple opponents of high caliber. 6. Dooku around TPM as a Jedi Master was noted by Palps himself within his mind a Palpa that got a power boost after taking out Plagueis mind you that said that Dooku was his equal from the other camp(Jedi Order) in terms of force power and skill already very well trained in the jedi arts, a masterful duelist, and a worthy diplomat and how Dooku was indeed strong in the force so obviously he was referring to force power and we know both TPM Jedi Master Dooku And TPM Power Boosted Palpatine both grew more powerful after that so that says a lot about Dookus powers as a Jedi and we know he grew even more as a sith yeah.
@klue507
@klue507 7 ай бұрын
@@matthewmann8969 when malgus was sent to the Sith academy for a test of his potential, the heads of the Sith academy told his father that they had seen few with his potential. At 19 Darth Malgus slayed his master and reclaimed Koriban for the Sith, earning the title of (darth) dark lord of the Sith. Darth Tyranus didn’t earn shit, he just filled the void left by Darth mauls alleged death. Darth malgus never taught classes, or bothered with games, he just fought on the front lines of war, against actual battle hardened Jedi, who in turn fought battle hardened Sith. Tyranus dueled, lead some dumbass droids, and was manipulated into being the face of the separatist faction (pawn faction). Malgus would of destroyed corascant and the Jedi forever if not for his dumbass superiors. Tyranus never had the heart of a true Sith, he was worried about politics, and political Sith are trash. Malgus knew this first hand. Malgus chained force augments flawlessly, these augments enhanced his already powerful physical attributes to the point of having no equal in strength, endurance, and durability. Though not the fastest, was quite fast, and combined with his strength, endurance, and durability was able to destroy faster combatants. I could go into malgus’ power and knowledge of the force, but I’m not gonna wast my time. Malgus has significant knowledge and power, more so than Tyranus at least when it matters, (in fighting). Darth malgus has never been defeated in a one on one fight, and when he has been defeated, its is by the most powerful groups of Sith and Jedi of the time. The Sith actually keep him alive because his power is that much of an asset. Magus has survived battles just like dooku and was in way more. What would tyranus do if a mountain was brought down on him. Could he go on 2 hours later to have a building come down on him also and survive. No he could not. Lastly, we already know sidious had more respect for malgus than most other sith. As for the rest of your 6th point, it’s written to poorly for me to really understand, so I’ll just ignore it, not that it would add anything to Tyranus’ kit that could stand up to malgus’ accomplishments even if I could make out what you where saying. Malgus absolutely wrecks Tyranus.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 7 ай бұрын
@@klue507 1. Dookus potential was so extremely high that Yoda took him on as his own final student that and Dooku was in the order since he was five years old or younger then Anakin was Yoda said when Dooku was first introduced to him in his mind that Dookus potential in the force is enigmatic even for himself to comprehend or define. Note that Yoda did not see this great potential in Mace, Qui Gon, Nor Obi Wan that he saw in Dooku in the force and Yoda planned to train Dooku as his successor not just for his potential but because of his IQ and philosophy. While Dookus potential was not as high as Yodas Or Anakins it was higher then everyone else within the order which is one of the reasons why Dooku leaving the order was such a sore loss. 2. Another note that speaks highly of Dookus potential was Plagueis noting that IF Sidious did not work out as planned then The Count would make a fine replacement note that Plagueis was also aware of other candidates like Maul, Sifo Siyas, And Qui Gon and out of those four he saw Dooku as the one with the best chance to be a sith apprentice IF Sidious did not go as originally intended showing that Palps had the higher potential then the others including Dooku as long as things do not screw up according to Hego. 3. Sidious did not plan on Maul being anything more then a assassin although a valued superior one to Grievous And Asajj combined he in his mind saw Dooku as the superior option for a apprentice for his potential he had his eyes on Dooku way before Mauls defeat probably to demote Mauls position IF Dooku agrees to join him with Maul having Asajj And Grievous position yeah. If not for Anakin, The Skywalkers, The Solos Under Leias Line, Yoda, Or The Mereks then Dooku would of been his right hand in the empire yeah. 4. Dooku has great experience on the battlefield too he fought against high tier Mandalorians and was one of the few Jedi to survive in the battle he was a top tier field commander. 5. Those games and classes are meant to prepare you for real life battles that is why people say practice makes perfect and lots of focus, concentration, training, studying, or educating helps a lot. Also Dooku was said by Yoda and the Jedi Council around Clone Wars of Dooku as a Jedi being the orders strongest student, most learned in fhe ways of fhe force, and the orders greatest failure he said this in front of the entire council including Windu to there faces and not one disagreed. 6. I meant that in the Plagueis novel, novelty, novelization, or book that Palpatine in his intermonologue around TPM Circa a Palps that got way more powerful after killing Plagueis said how Dooku was indeed strong in the force and how Dooku was a equal from the other camp(Jedi Order) how Dooku was already very well trained in the jedi arts, a masterful duelist, and a skilled diplomat once again both Dooku And Palpatine grew in power after that too so that was not even there primes plus none of the opponents Plaguies fought were Yoda, Dooku, Mace, Anakin, Nor Sidious level yeah.
@Frapediaris
@Frapediaris 10 жыл бұрын
When Dooku fought Yoda, the line that was used was: "It is apparent this duel will not be settled by our mastery of the Force". And then the Lightsabers came out. So, Dooku could draw a fight with Yoda and you give the edge in force ability to Malgus? Give me a break mate!
@Avenging_Archer
@Avenging_Archer 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. People underrate Dooku all the time. He was instructed to go easy on Anakin that last time and lost, but he kicked Anakin's ass all through the War. That's like a Sugar Ray Robinson who defeated Jake LaMotta 4 times and lost 1 fight to him. Dooku's skill with a lightsaber was feared even by Sidious and even Yoda couldn't outmatch him with the Force.
@Knightstruth
@Knightstruth 10 жыл бұрын
One thing overlooked I suspect in lightsaber combat between these two is reach. Dooku's style and equipment would give him a superior reach. The primary weakness of a thrusting style of swordplay is the less immediately lethal nature of wounds it inflicts and inability to pierce armor. Both of these weaknesses would be fixed merely by virtue of the existence lightsabers. Malgus' wide swinging style would be extremely vulnerable to a finesse style such as dooku who only needs a slight opening for a lethal thrust. His superior reach allows that Dooku would be able to backstep out of Malgus' swing and immediately riposte against any exposed area Maglus has shown all while staying out of Malgus' lethal range. I suspect a duel between these two entirely with lightsabers could easily end in three moves.
@2centswanted113
@2centswanted113 Жыл бұрын
Malgus armor and cybernetics negate the danger of light wounds and thrusts as inferior Jedi armor could do the same. Just reference the Cao Cin Dirach duel where a thrust from Malgus (superior strength) didn't pierce the armor.
@Knightstruth
@Knightstruth Жыл бұрын
@@2centswanted113 I don't think lightsabers are really capable of making a "light wound" They're pretty brutal weapons.
@2centswanted113
@2centswanted113 Жыл бұрын
@Knightstruth I mean in the real world, no. In Star Wars, yes. It's demonstrated multiple times. In Dookus case more than once, most notably against Kenobi.
@Knightstruth
@Knightstruth Жыл бұрын
@@2centswanted113 Pretty sure dooku was showboating when he wounded kenobie. He was skilled enough to only wound him whilst a man with less control would have amputated limbs. But again, a thrust with a lightsaber is not a weak hit. It absolutely will kill you. And thrusting styles of swordfighting are the fastest styles there are.
@genderqueergorehound
@genderqueergorehound 10 жыл бұрын
Personally, I think Dooku would ultimately outsmart Darth Malgus. Don't get me wrong, Malgus appears to be a very cunning individual, but I feel like Dooku would ultimately be a superior thinker than Malgus. I think Dooku's expertise in defense would get Malgus frustrated and and confused, which would cause him to make more mistakes, which Dooku could then easily exploit. Considering that typically all it takes is one direct hit from a lightsaber to kill or at least incapacitate someone, I think Dooku would have no trouble getting that one needed strike in on Malgus, catching him completely off-guard.
@Morclaw
@Morclaw 10 жыл бұрын
You are forgeting the most crucial fact about Malgus, the sourse of his power, anger. Malgus is actually the worst possible match-up for Dooku. In your comment you base your prediction on an assumption that Dooku could frustrate Malgus and that anger would make Malgus prone to mistakes. This could not be further from the truth. Yes Dooku's defence and taunting would frustrate and in turn enrage Malgus but that would only fuel his raw,brutal power. Before long dooku would have no time for thinking as ho would neew every moment to defend from Malguses' onslaught. In the end Malgus would get so powerfull that Dooku could not defend himself anymore and would be obliterated. Dooku was an extremely skilled duelist who , as you said, was able to frustrate manny and taunt them into making mistakes. It is not that he was weak and therefore he would loose, it is just that this is the worst possible match-up for him. It's like pitting a werewolf against Silversurfer.
@richman198821
@richman198821 10 жыл бұрын
Morclaw Couldn't have said it better myself
@lordjor96
@lordjor96 10 жыл бұрын
watch ep3 and you will se dooku he isnt good against strong opponents
@STR33TSofJUST1C3
@STR33TSofJUST1C3 10 жыл бұрын
lordjor96 Dooku fended off Grievous. That cyborg was able to knock skilled Jedi Masters unconscious with mere lightsaber parries. Anakin did not defeat Dooku because he was physically stronger, it's because he tapped into a great reservoir of Dark Side energy. Energy emanating from Sidious sitting not 10 feet away from him. Also, Dooku is an equal to Mace Windu. The most skilled Lightsaber duellist of the Order.
@genderqueergorehound
@genderqueergorehound 10 жыл бұрын
Morclaw Well, here's the thing about that. I noted that Malgus would become frustrated and confused, emphasis on the latter. There is a bit of a difference between frustration and anger. Frustration by its definition is based around hindering one's efforts and causing you to make more mistakes, and it is fueled by confusion and it in turn fuels the confusion itself. It's a vicious circle. Because of that, I feel that Dooku would have the upper hand. Don't get me wrong, you have a very good point, but I stand by my judgement.
@alexwright8585
@alexwright8585 9 жыл бұрын
Malgus can pretty much survive a mountain being dropped on him, a rocket and then a grenade to the face, and go on to kill two jedi before seeking treatment. He killed a battlemaster, ven zallow, and many others. What's Dooku done?
@InSanic13
@InSanic13 9 жыл бұрын
alex Wright Survived a duel with Yoda, contended with the greatest duelists of his era...
@alexwright8585
@alexwright8585 9 жыл бұрын
InSanic He exploited a trait of Yoda to force him to choose between the duel and the lives of 2 Jedi. Plus Yoda's somewhat overrated as a duelist.
@edwardenglehart9443
@edwardenglehart9443 9 жыл бұрын
alex Wright I agree Yoda is just an easter egg plot device imo
@richardajayi3194
@richardajayi3194 9 жыл бұрын
+alex Wright disarmed general grievous, defeated anakin and obi-wan.
@alexwright8585
@alexwright8585 9 жыл бұрын
Anakin and Obi-wan were exhausted after the battle on Geonosis, and they lacked experience fighting force wielders. He had taught Grievous lightsaber combat, and so would likely have some contingency for him.
@Orkman
@Orkman 11 жыл бұрын
What you have to remember though is that he was a jedi hero, then a sith warlord who nearly conquered the galaxy who then returned to the light and became the galaxies savior restoring balance to the force. This is why a lot of people view him as immensely power (more so then he is) though that feat alone does put him as being exceptional compared to most force wielders.
@JorgeCastillo-jm6gf
@JorgeCastillo-jm6gf 9 жыл бұрын
Malgus was a powerhouse throwing strong fast and presice attacks not only that he was a badass tank with extreme power with the force not the best but certainly top notch the fact Count Douku had trouble with power strikes and had limited endurance would be enough to cripple the old man
@xwasp5585
@xwasp5585 5 жыл бұрын
Good on you! Too many people underrate Darth Malgus. Dooku has a weakness towards aggressive opponents like Malgus
@Venneroth
@Venneroth 9 жыл бұрын
I feel it's worth pointing out that Makashi attacks you through jabs and light cuts. Between Malgus's armour, cybernetics and stubborn resilience, he might very well power through a light cut or three. Conversely, as Jensaarai noted, Malgus's specialty is Dooku's kryptonite style.
@samuelellis3792
@samuelellis3792 7 жыл бұрын
lol u can just skip physical abilities mate, we already know how that ends
@Jacknava2001
@Jacknava2001 9 жыл бұрын
I agree with Malgus Winning. The Majority of Duels Dooku did in the movie and clone wars, he always throws stuff at people and flees the scene like a coward. Malgus just seems like a strait up bad A$$, seems more ruthless than Dooku.
@wwjds
@wwjds 9 жыл бұрын
Jacknava2001 You're so wrong in many ways lol
@Morclaw
@Morclaw 9 жыл бұрын
+JOEY FOSTA Yet you fail to post a single one.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 8 жыл бұрын
+Jacknava2001 Well the main thing the count lacks is stamina and endurance which even the force cannot fully compensate for he would still suffer from the technicalities of old age and what not. But Dooku has tough force barriers like when he was able to tank a force sand storm from Anakin Skywalker and redirect it back at him and the way he evaded Obi Wan and Anakin's powerful force wave with great timing by the way. He can also use the force without a gesture to lift heavy objects and large ones like he did fighting Ventress in the original Clone Wars cartoon.
@dulio3240
@dulio3240 8 жыл бұрын
Well Count dooku is techincal in his skills. The force throws and lightning are to quickly incapitate or kill weak opponents. Count dooku is a fencer, keep distance and look for openings. redirect and deflect attacks. Malgus works opposite of Dooku , keep attacking and close up distance. tight defence and return immediate counters give the opponent no time or space to react in kind. Dooku is optimized to deal with other form users but a Form V duellists that depends on the user mastery if the user is a amateur, Dooku will immediately kill him but against a master of Djem So. Dooku will be undermined. Dooku's prime weakness is stamina and lack of space as Makashi user once trapped in a corner will be crushed by a power style duellist. Speed and strength can be compensated by Force augmentation. Malgus is like Vader on turbo boost. Speed, Tankiness, Strength, More force powers to use. Malgus just lack that ability to use the environment against his opponent but instead will hammer his opponent with his lightsaber and force powers.
@themrmezbah
@themrmezbah 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly there's always times where he would've lost without force lightning like in revenge of the sith
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 8 жыл бұрын
I would say Malgus wins but not as easily as many think remember Dooku as a force wielder was a master of Telekinesis even as a Padawan and as a Jedi Knight he even taught classes how to use the power and was able to lift multiple heavy objects at the same time and he won at games against other force users like Push Feather the only one to beat him at that was Yoda and that is saying something about Dooku's skill and raw power even as a jedi padawan he had a tough force shield to break and was great at force healing himself I would say he was even more powerful then Windu but not as much as Yoda that is for sure and he was a great Telepath too even as a jedi as a sith he became even more powerful and skilled not that he was not before but he got even more skilled. He gained many more powers like Force Lightning and Dun Moch as well as force choke and force grip and became even stronger with force waves pushes and shoves. I am sure he had Tutiminus as a jedi but he became even better at it as a dark sider. And he can shadow his appearance away so he is great at stealth to a point unless jedi are actively looking for him and even then he knows how to escape. Remember this is the same guy who was able to force shield himself against Anakin Skywalkers force pushed sand storm and redirect it back towards him as well as evade a force wave from both Obi Wan and Anakin at the same time. As far as lightsaber battling goes he was no slouch either he was able to beat many people including Mace Windu in sparring matches only Yoda was able to stalemate or beat him. Only Anakin or Savage can strike with enough force to tire Dooku. As far as physical abilities I agree that Malgus gets that edge as well as unarmed combat skills. Weaponry I give it to Dooku the curve hilted lightsaber gives more advantages then disadvantages.
@keithasaur0
@keithasaur0 2 жыл бұрын
I really loved this matchup and analysis! I love Dooku as a Sith Lord, but I certainly can see the argument that favors Malgus.
@Nicholas.Rogala
@Nicholas.Rogala 4 жыл бұрын
I would enjoy seeing an updated version of this marchup. See if there are any details you may have missed or changed your thinking that would affect the outcome of the fight. If nothing else I would enjoy your updated editing and monologue style.
@analothor
@analothor 10 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. sir christopher lee
@wolfgod6443
@wolfgod6443 5 жыл бұрын
Dooku's force abilities are underrated here. He used a lift, lightning, and toss combo on 3 nightsisters, one of them being Ventress. He has numerous showings of combining lightning and push, even in AotC with Anakin (I'd argue it's his signature move really). His lightning is proven to be exceptional compared to even Malgus; managing to incapacitate Anakin and Savage, both being combative tanks. His use of telekinesis is also superb, casually matching Kenobi and Anakin's Force abilities and completely outclassing Savage in his strength in the Force, and Savage's whole thing is his natural talent. I think this fight comes down more to dueling than the Force with this considered. The real question is whether Malgus can tank the glancing blows Dooku will dish out. Given Malgus's armor, probably, but Malgus lacks Dooku's dexterity, and Dooku can definitely get some strikes in similar to his first duel with Obi-wan, so it's a matter of how many times Malgus gets grazed. Also, while Malgus has the capacity to move as fast as Dooku when on the defensive, his style doesn't reflect this offensively. His wide, heavy strikes don't match Anakin's quicker strikes closer to the body, meaning Dooku won't be forced to block every hit.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Dooku has stalemated and beaten faster and more skilled opponents like Mace in lightsaber dueling when Dooku was still a Jedi before and during TPM Circa Mace surpassed Dookus Jedi self a little while after Dooku left the Jedi Order after TPM Period yeah.
@2centswanted113
@2centswanted113 Жыл бұрын
Frying 3 Jedi with a single blast amid a pitched battle is not inferior to overwhelming Anakin or Savage.
@STR33TSofJUST1C3
@STR33TSofJUST1C3 11 жыл бұрын
Malgus uses up all of his Affinity into his duellist feats. He does this to increase his speed, strength, and resilience. After a while, he starts to slowly run out of Affinity, after which he needs to take the defensive style. Bad thing for Malgus is: He has little to no defensive feats whatsoever. Dooku is an extremely agile duellist. He is capable of chaining dozens of Force Powers without tiring himself. Malgus' low affinity also prevents him from blocking Force Attacks.
@Slenderpants
@Slenderpants 10 жыл бұрын
Dont forget about Malgus' tunnel vision. He was able to tell where his opponent was about to strike and how to counter it. This would have given him a major edge.
@HeadCannonPrime
@HeadCannonPrime 10 жыл бұрын
...its pronounced "Jem - So" The 'D' is silent. Like Django.
@djbray7
@djbray7 7 жыл бұрын
"While Malgus is faster and stronger than Dooku, this doesn't mean much when Dooku can simply draw on the Force to overcome his physical shortcomings." Oh, yeah, you mean like the he did with Anakin in Episode III?
@NerdNation-xj6um
@NerdNation-xj6um 7 жыл бұрын
No, more like he did in training with Savage Opress.
@djbray7
@djbray7 7 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Caldwell, Savage had no lightsaber training, that's why Dooku defeated him so easily. Dooku evaded and parried his attacks, he never met them head on. He couldn't meet them head on. They'd blow through his defense if he tried to. Using Savage and saying, "Well, he did it with him." is totally flawed. Jensaari1 said that Malgus' physical advantage doesn't mean much because Dooku can use physical augmentation to go toe-to-toe with Malgus, it's absolutely untrue. If he could, he would have powered through Savage's strikes and dominated him, same with Anakin. He didn't. Like I said, he could not. Did you notice how Jensaari1 didn't reply to my comment?
@NerdNation-xj6um
@NerdNation-xj6um 7 жыл бұрын
Against Savage, Dooku's strength was never in question. His force-enhanced speed, however, was a major factor. Dooku's lightning-fast reflexes have won him many duels. He's fast enough to evade the erratic strikes of Savage and penetrate the nigh impregnable guard of Obi Wan Kenobi. I was never speaking of his strength. His speed, on the other hand, is definitely good enough to counter Malgus' brute force. Also you can't expect Jensaari to respond to one comment from a video posted a few years ago. You're not that special.
@djbray7
@djbray7 7 жыл бұрын
Dooku is not as fast as you believe. Fast? Yes. THAT fast? No. His speed and strength have never been amazing. Savage's strikes were very predictable and erratic. Anyone seasoned in lightsaber combat could have done what Dooku did. Oh, if and you're referring to Episode II, please, Obi-Wan was not near his prime, don't even. And in Episode III, Dooku exploited Obi-Wan's lackluster force wall. Malgus is not some sloppy Djem So practitioner. If he was, he wouldn't have been able to kill Ven Zallow, Kao Cen Darach, and all the Jedi he did in destroying the temple. Maybe not, but he generally replies to comments that contradict his conclusions.
@NerdNation-xj6um
@NerdNation-xj6um 7 жыл бұрын
While Obi Wan Kenobi wasn't in his prime, he was still an incredibly skilled opponent. Being able to bypass his guard is still no small feat. And despite being untrained and sloppy, Savage is still incredibly fast and strong. At this point, I think we just have a different perspective, and therefore opinion.
@priestmorrison6564
@priestmorrison6564 10 жыл бұрын
Man, yer piece is hardcore! It doesn't seem fake, you love these characters like a real reader should. Top notch writing son, I know you used to hearing that, just wanted to enlighten you also...
@MrHellsing76
@MrHellsing76 11 жыл бұрын
I also think the fact that Malgus grew up and was able to hone himself in many sith and later on Jedi battles, Dooku only had the chance to test himself against Jedi that had little to now practice in lightsaber combat against other opponents. If Dooku had been born in the era of the Great War, he would have been a greater combatant.
@johnherrera5261
@johnherrera5261 8 жыл бұрын
Darth talon vs kit fisto please
@completeepicness5070
@completeepicness5070 7 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, though my personal belief is Talon. remember, Shii Cho is weak against single opponents. Fisto has to disable talon very quickly or he is down for the count
@vadimananenko2452
@vadimananenko2452 2 жыл бұрын
My vote is on Talon. Cause you know...
@dravendfr
@dravendfr 9 жыл бұрын
Dooku wasn't just "good" at his techniques he was great and had more to show overall in my opinion. Oh well, good video as alwats.
@dravendfr
@dravendfr 9 жыл бұрын
Always, stupid phone.
@KumaoftheForest
@KumaoftheForest 3 жыл бұрын
Dooku IS Makashi, no one can match him in Makashi
@BarlowEnter
@BarlowEnter 10 жыл бұрын
Where can I find information on Darkside Degradation?
@MassConfusion07
@MassConfusion07 11 жыл бұрын
What she was actually doing was that she harmonized her body to the same Force frequency as the blade, therefore creating field too deflect the blade. Kinda like putting the same ends of magnets together. It's a very interesting technique and requires a more subtle control and understanding of the force
@Eleolius
@Eleolius 10 жыл бұрын
Malgus- hands down. The Sith warriors of the old era had access to lightsaber techniques that were long since lost both to the Jedi Order of Dooku's time, and and as there was relatively little Sith tradition surviving (relative to the old period), and Dooku's training in lightsaber combat was superb for his own time- as said in 4:36, "Most were not prepared..." Jedi lightsaber combat in the Clone Wars were at an oversimplified level that was eroded by thousands of years of peace. One was a warrior- the other was a noble who trained primarily for dueling. Money's on the warrior who killed not one- but two Jedi Grand Masters, and multiple Jedi besides. Dooku never claimed that level of achievement even at his height.
@whitglint543
@whitglint543 10 жыл бұрын
darth maul now way malak, while being the dark lord for a time, never really finished his training and is only at his "best" while on the star forge.
@whitglint543
@whitglint543 10 жыл бұрын
I have played Kotor 1 many time and i have an extensive knowledge of old republic history
@whitglint543
@whitglint543 10 жыл бұрын
Its never really explained in game but in a dual some time ago Revan smashed Malak's jaw with his saber and i DO own the game
@whitglint543
@whitglint543 10 жыл бұрын
Ok so yes i have beaten the game (12 times)to the second question malak is not very hard to beat if you know how the fight goes and u can use Malak's "advantage against him. Getting Revans suit is kind of hard if you don't know how to do it ahead of time
@MsKeylas
@MsKeylas 10 жыл бұрын
Tengu Shredder Stop Spoiling game info and asking question about it. There are thousand of Faq's and walkthroughs of that game.
@Sean-kp6pi
@Sean-kp6pi 10 жыл бұрын
Dooku in his prime would probably defeat Malgus. Malgus has too much rage when he fights. Dooku is calm and tactical and can exploit his opponent's weaknesses. His saber form is also more suited to dueling. He can't really have that much of a problem against power attacks seeing as he trained Grievous and can fight him with minimal effort, even when he uses unorthodox techniques. In my opinion Dooku could easily exploit the raw strength and power Malgus uses in combat to his advantage.
@danmarusan2878
@danmarusan2878 10 жыл бұрын
Dooku was a jedi before his fall to the dark side. That's the reason his fighting style is so different. Malgus has allways been a sith lord. Malgus has more experience in real life lightsaber duells than Dooku, because he fought more jedi in the galactic war than Dooku in his entire life and Dookus fighting style is weak against power attacks, the sort of attacks Malgus uses in his Djem So fighting style to overwhelm enemies.
@acqaustin3430
@acqaustin3430 10 жыл бұрын
Danmaru San duku did not fall he grew the sith is a higher lvl than the jedi
@baxterrhodes7542
@baxterrhodes7542 10 жыл бұрын
The way I would look at it, is that Dooku is someone who fights someone who uses a rapier, Malgus fights like someone who uses a two handed broadsword. Dooku has finesse, Malgus has overwhelming power. The fight would play out similar to the final duel in Rob Roy, though Dooku may be able to dodge and outmaneuver Malgus, and even hit him occasionally, he can't exactly kill him either, because closing in on Malgus too much, or staying within his reach for too long, would provide ample opportunities for Malgus to strike Dooku. If Malgus is capable of striking Dooku even once, it will greatly hamper Dooku, and he wouldn't be able to handle a onslaught of well placed and well timed strikes form Malgus. This is because of how powerful Malgus's strikes are. Though Dooku may have superior skill in his blade work, that doesn't always guarantee victory, and his rather intricate, and delicate, fighting form I feel would crumble easily under Malgus's brutality.
@acqaustin3430
@acqaustin3430 10 жыл бұрын
Baxter Rhodes yes bus duke would most likely , being the tactical man would dominate the space there by minimising the powear that malgus could produce secondly dukes fighting style is one used to allow him to fight for an extend period while. Malgus style is one that will tier quickly unless the battle I quick witch it probably won't duku can not use his own saber duku will most definitely win
@baxterrhodes7542
@baxterrhodes7542 10 жыл бұрын
austin rollison This is assuming that Malgus is without tactical ingenuity, which he is not. Malgus is in actuality, an incredibly intelligent fighter, and will often predict the movements of his opponents in the process. This is what makes Malgus so powerful, he is not only a powerful fighter, but also an intelligent one. Though, you do make a good point with Dooku's ability to minimize the space in which Malgus could operate in, this also has the opposite effect, and would also limitate Dooku's own power in his strikes, in which case, though Dooku could most certainly hit Malgus, I doubt he would be able to generate enough power in his strikes to outright kill him, since Malgus is so heavily armored, and has incredible physical discipline, he would not be phased easily by these small strikes. Overall, I do believe that though Dooku would try to end this fight quickly, Dooku simply wouldn't be able to. The only thing that could keep Dooku alive through this fight would be his footwork, and his control over the space the two would be fighting in, unable to outright kill Malgus during this as I previously stated. In this process, Malgus would undoubtedly and intelligently outmaneuver Dooku eventually, since Malgus is an incredibly intelligent fighter, and in the end Malgus would begin to land a multitude of heavy and decisive blows on Dooku, which would undoubtedly destroy Dooku.
@TJ347
@TJ347 6 жыл бұрын
2:56 "Emperor Vidiot". I second the adoption of that name.
@wazzy4877
@wazzy4877 3 жыл бұрын
I know I heard that too who is that lol?
@STR33TSofJUST1C3
@STR33TSofJUST1C3 11 жыл бұрын
Agree. He was one of the most skilled duellists. Apart from the triumvirate of exceptional duellists (Vader, Sidious, and Luke) he is certainly not far behind with his mastery of Makashi. It is said he was the best user of Makashi ever. He even beat Mace Windu in all duels they ever had, both as Jedi and Sith.
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand something. You gave Malgus the edge in force powers but in Attack of the Clones, Dooku showed that he was every bit the equal of Yoda himself when it came to force powers and was his virtual equal in lightsabre combat. Does this mean that Malgus' abilities were so great that not even Yoda could stand against him? I'm not disputing your analysis, I'm just asking if Malgus could/would defeat Yoda.
@edwardkagame8390
@edwardkagame8390 7 жыл бұрын
If a can beat b, and c can beat b, does that mean c can beat a? Not always. Dooku is not a good match for Malgus, as Malgus' entire lightsaber style is built around Dooku's greatest weakness. Dooku also wasn't equal, but movies want to look cool. If you slowmo that fight, it really is god awful; meaningless blade clashes and a point where Dooku bladelocks instead of going through Yoda's head, you cannot take that fight as a good example of either of their abilities. EU does a much better job
@AvroBellow
@AvroBellow 7 жыл бұрын
Sam Bleu I know do of course know about the a vs. b vs. c theory, I just wasn't really aware of the differences were between them in regard to their force powers. Thanks for clearing that up!
@noahdaglio9362
@noahdaglio9362 10 жыл бұрын
General Grevious vs Pre Vizla please
@lordjor96
@lordjor96 10 жыл бұрын
rule number one on jensaarai videos HE HATES star wars:the clone wars (2008)
@noahdaglio9362
@noahdaglio9362 10 жыл бұрын
fine I'll just take my idea and go ask Evannova
@lordjor96
@lordjor96 10 жыл бұрын
hmmm might work but grevious will win
@lordjor96
@lordjor96 10 жыл бұрын
i didnt know there was versions of grevious, but yeah star wars the clone wars version (2003) its badass
@hazardous8301
@hazardous8301 8 жыл бұрын
Grievous easy. Without the force there is no way he's keeping up with grievous, even council member masters are force into a defensive poster because they can't keep up with him.
@CYBERJASE
@CYBERJASE 5 жыл бұрын
A great video as always. I think that this specific versus battle depends on the actual battle specifications between Darth Malgus and Darth Tyrranus aka count Dooku. If they were left in an arena with only their lightsabers to fight to the death, then I think that Darth Malgus would win. He is in his physical prime (almost, due to the breathing mask), very muscular, very strong AND agile the same time! Dooku might be the better swordman in terms of weapon mastery and refinement, but Malgus is the equivalent of a tank coming at you at full speed! In a battle 1 on 1, Dooku would most likely loose. BUT, if we compare the 2 Sith lords in a more "spherical" way, considering all their force talents, powers, physical and mental attributes, then I think that Count Dooku aka Darth Tyrranus would get the upper hand. Malgus is a one-sided dark lord, a sharpened sword made for fighting. Dooku is not as deadly in physical combat, but has many other talents, that could make him more usefull (or more dangerous) generally. All I mean is that Dooku could have a man like Malgus acting as his general on the field (or as his Hand), whereas the same cannot be said about Malgus..!
@creakychair9387
@creakychair9387 7 жыл бұрын
My two favorite siths.
@ChannelStowyn
@ChannelStowyn 10 жыл бұрын
Darth Malgus is pure badass he was one of the very few to have an indecisive duel with Vader becuase most get womped a new with him. In fact if Malgus had a helmet Jensaarai says he might have actually won.
@schwinsloo4478
@schwinsloo4478 10 жыл бұрын
Well...that's great and all but all that you just said makes no sense. Why you ask? Because Vader and Malgus exist in different timelines, Malgus exists almost 3800 years before Vader, Vader only had the chance to study Darth Malgu's holocron. When he studied his holocron, he noticed that they both had the same lightsaber form, (form 5, Im not sure..)but noticed that he had a tactical tunnel vision, which makes him really bad against distractions, Vader would win simply because he matches Malgus's strength and style, but surpasses with mastery overall of everything, lightsaber form, force powers..ect When all is said and done Malgus doesn't know how to keep a pace and just relentlessly attacks, Vader knows how to take it easy and hang back and wait for a strong parry, he's extremely tactical because if you notice Anykin when he's a padawan he attacks everyone relentlessly and too fast, like with Count Dooku. He loses his arm in consequence, but learns this lesson. What is Malgu's gift is Malgu's weakness, his stamina so far has allowed him to attack relentlessly and wildly as he does, but when he meets his stamina match, or someone who knows how to stay out of the way and distract him (like vader), he'll lose any day.
@ChannelStowyn
@ChannelStowyn 10 жыл бұрын
Eric Pomainville Malgus lived 50,000 years before Vader and Malgus was created as a spin off Darth Vader for SWTOR. Malgus and Vader are nearly the same but not totally and we have seen unruly, untrained people attack Vader but some end up surviving two being Luke Skywalker and Starkiller(Clone). Starkiller even though more powerful then Vader he had frequent memory flash distracting him and Luke was trained primarily by himself on Tatoonine and Luke is also less force sensitive then Vader and easily distracted as well (Note:Till he reaches the rank of master long after Vader's death). The duel I mentioned was not real or canon I meant the versus video Jensaari made.
@T3chn0logicalTerror
@T3chn0logicalTerror 10 жыл бұрын
Mason Davis actually Luke has the same force potential as Anakin and so does anyone else in the Skywalker line basically.
@T3chn0logicalTerror
@T3chn0logicalTerror 10 жыл бұрын
Mason Davis sorry read your comment wrong.
@ChannelStowyn
@ChannelStowyn 10 жыл бұрын
No, Luke and Anakin Anakin before Darth Vader has just about the same Luke is not the chosen one the prophecy was false and even yet their are far great Jedi the Luke for instance Exar Kun and Luke has many equals like The Hero of Tython.
@Dolfinius
@Dolfinius 10 жыл бұрын
Reven vs darth malgus
@shlomobergshoahsteinshekel9095
@shlomobergshoahsteinshekel9095 10 жыл бұрын
no competition. reven
@mate6522
@mate6522 10 жыл бұрын
***** oh pleas malagus is a coward he killed his master bihande his back.Revan kiled 3 sith lords battel!!!!!!!
@mate6522
@mate6522 10 жыл бұрын
***** k sorry for my bad english.weak? he defeated Nihilus,Malak and Vitiate.and how many did Malagus killed?none!
@CRAZYR071166
@CRAZYR071166 10 жыл бұрын
Malgus is very powerful indeed, but I think Revan is superior. Revan wields both light and dark side of the force and yet he's neither jedi nor sith, or so he claims. That's just my opinion though.
@vampylp4254
@vampylp4254 10 жыл бұрын
***** Malgus wouldnt stand chance to Dooku. He has only physical advantage and thats all. In everything other Tyranus is better. These versus series are ridiculous. With these teories Revan could be easily among the top tiers.
@revelationstudier999
@revelationstudier999 10 жыл бұрын
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times." - Bruce Lee
@TheDragonoftheWest
@TheDragonoftheWest 11 жыл бұрын
I think there are points at which we need to look at things shown to us in The Clone Wars in a more out-of-universe way. When it comes to detail, the TCW writers pretty much don't care about anything, the Nightsisters for example just always "somehow" had the dark side magic abilities at their disposal that were needed to drive the plot forward (give Maul new legs, make Savage bigger and stronger, summon zombies etc.) even though nobody has seen them using this stuff ever before.
@apolo9366
@apolo9366 8 жыл бұрын
Malgus would just over power Dooku so much
@juri5624
@juri5624 8 жыл бұрын
Not really. Dooku is a Makashi master, he focuses on outplaying the superior strenghth of opponents
@OriginalUbixQ
@OriginalUbixQ 6 жыл бұрын
Malgus would win
@SephirothSuperKool
@SephirothSuperKool 10 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with this. Dooku definitely had more tricks and "skill" versus the raw physical power (further boosted to superhuman levels by the Force) of a Sith warrior in his relative prime. I'd definitely go for less tricks if it meant more devastating combat experience/force
@coldfire22
@coldfire22 9 жыл бұрын
Agreed. There is an old saying. "I do not fear the 1000 techniques you have practiced once. I fear the 1 technique you have practiced a 1000 times."
@SavageSquishy86
@SavageSquishy86 8 жыл бұрын
This Malgus guy sounds like a true badass..
@SavageSquishy86
@SavageSquishy86 8 жыл бұрын
Elias Johnson too bad we didn't see more quality characters of this make for the films...
@lanesmith9892
@lanesmith9892 11 жыл бұрын
I would say it's better to know a lot of tricks because your more unpredictable. Also his lightsaber not only accents his fighting style but the ability to shorten the blade can also surprise the opponent. Lastly the shorter blade allows for more blade control which is a core principals of Form II.
@DarthStalkers
@DarthStalkers 11 жыл бұрын
In this conversation, i'm assuming both are in their strongest forms that we actually witness. Don't forget that Zash was just made a Darth after 'killing' Darth Skotia. And if you remember the final fights with Baras, he can back up his lightsaber combat with very skillful and powerful force attacks. Zash would be overpowered very quickly with Baras' onslaught of Force and Lightsaber attacks.
@Steamrunner92
@Steamrunner92 11 жыл бұрын
I agree with the verdict here partly because I agree that totally mastering a few skills is better than be capable of many, but also the fact that Malgus' relatively fewer abilities played right into Dooku's weakness when pitted against brute strength. No matter how fancy the scissors are, they still get beaten by rock every time.
@AnotherVolvoxFan
@AnotherVolvoxFan 8 жыл бұрын
Love the 0:45 illustration - but DAMN, it pisses me off that he holds his saber in such a way that the curved hilt becomes irrelevant :) Really interesting match. Can't wait to see what you come up with
@178650
@178650 11 жыл бұрын
not only does he accomplish this, but he fights in two wars back to back. and he lives long enough to see a third.
@TinyTorah
@TinyTorah 11 жыл бұрын
Malak was before Malgus' time, and while they are somewhat similar in appearance, especially because of their breathing masks, one easy way to tell between the two is that Malgus wears a lot of dark and black, whereas Malak wears reddish, orange-ish colors. Oh, and Malak has tattoos on his head.
@martingamer5591
@martingamer5591 9 жыл бұрын
Skywalker came out ahead, but Dooku was beheaded, therefore, couldn't you say Dooku came out a head?
@BlackLegion12621
@BlackLegion12621 11 жыл бұрын
I remember that line sending chills down my spine when she said that. It made the old masters seem all the more terrifying and invincible.
@DeusExMachina10001
@DeusExMachina10001 11 жыл бұрын
Windu was basically equal to Sidious in terms of his lightsaber prowess, but is totally outclassed by Sidious as a Force wielder. Windu's Vaapad technique allows him to effectively defend against most Force based attacks, but if the chips were really down, Sidious could probably annihilate Windu with the Force. As for their duel, it seems most likely that Sidious threw it, considering how he knew Anakin was on his way and conveniently regained his strength as soon as Anakin cut off Windu's hand.
@thaynealexander
@thaynealexander 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying about Tutaminis. I actually didn't know that. He "could" have shielded himself. But really after taking such a massive powerful blow of force from Shan that shattered large rocks! And explode like a bomb. I think he was too F'ed up, and dazed to use the force. And right after taking a flash grenade? He should have died.
@dameionjones9810
@dameionjones9810 11 жыл бұрын
i want you to know this series is amazing, you have done a great job. Very acurate, you need more coverage, the comentary theorys all the above is excelent. you have made my evening fillled with enjoyment thanks to your videos, im sure many would agree, maby even millions.A++++++++++++++
@LaneEntertainment1
@LaneEntertainment1 11 жыл бұрын
Ohh my apologies, I am unfamiliar with alot of the Sith names and who the ancient sith are. But thank you for clearing that up! I was going to say, one man alone being able to destroy whole stars was pretty OP even for a sith lord. The line of Sith have come a very long way to multiple points of extinction! Once again, thank you for correcting me :) I will read more of Naga Sadow and alot more of the Sith Lords ;D
@zacheryhunter1340
@zacheryhunter1340 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Malgus is clapping those Dusty Hind Quarters. The look Doku gave Palpatine when he told Ani to kill him would be the look he had when Malgus walks in the room.
@DeusExMachina10001
@DeusExMachina10001 11 жыл бұрын
There is a Force Drain that any Force user can learn, but whereas Nihilus's ability permanently increased his power but left him hungrier, the generic drain provided only a temporary boost to the power of the user but had no side effects. Vitiate's drain was something completely different. It was a ritual, a form of Sith Sorcery. Nihilus's drain was based on the fact that he was a sentient Force Wound, and Palpatine's drain was a form of the generic drain taken to the Nth degree.
@shapiro5000
@shapiro5000 9 жыл бұрын
Would love to see either of these duelists face Mace Windu.
@highgroundproductions8590
@highgroundproductions8590 8 жыл бұрын
Basically a contest of technical knowledge/skill vs basic raw power/combat effectiveness.
@DarthDeuces
@DarthDeuces 9 жыл бұрын
Another great vs video. I'd like to see Quinlan Vos vs. Cade Skywalker I think that would be cool
@barcelona2170
@barcelona2170 9 жыл бұрын
Coming from a soccer perspective I personally believe that having a lot pf tricks is better than have a couple of tricks you use very well. This is mainly due to the fact that if you use the same tricks over and over, no matter how much you use them and how good you are at them, you become ridiculously blatant. This means that any good duelist would be able to sense the repetitive nature of their fighting style. With this being said a combination of both a lot of tricks and being good at a few would be the more preferred option!
@einarmar7445
@einarmar7445 5 жыл бұрын
Malgus is about a 7.2 feet Tank (Yeah imagine a 7.2 feet Sith Tank Pushing towards you)
@Raziel537
@Raziel537 11 жыл бұрын
Please do Bane vs Revan please, your videos have taught me more about star wars than anything else
@TheUndyingCrystal
@TheUndyingCrystal 11 жыл бұрын
It was mentioned in the canon that Sidious was holding back. He LET Mace beat him so Anakin would fall to the Dark Side saving him. Let's not forget that Tyrannus didn't have any experience fighting in an actual WAR. Yeah, he's fought in battles, but Malgus led an attack on the Jedi Temple itself, in PERSON.
@STR33TSofJUST1C3
@STR33TSofJUST1C3 11 жыл бұрын
They thought so because Nihilus was the first to ever show it. Vitiate did it too, but it left no survivors or witnesses. By the time of the Galactic War, the Jedi knew about a technique to Drain ones Essence on a large scale. By that time, they knew it was an ability you can learn.
@JRGProjects
@JRGProjects 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dooku ultimately would piss Malgus off so badly that this would be a curbstomp. Anakin was coached by Palpatine to embrace the Dark Side and was already a combat vet like Malgus. Malgus being a Sith already is adept at Dark Side Channeling. This fight would go the way of Episode 3 but with a faster conclusion and a more brutal victory. Dooku can hold his own but Malgus is what Anakin should have been had Obi-wan not crippled him.
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 7 ай бұрын
Difference is Dooku was not expecting Anakin to kill him in this he would be aware it would be life or death plus Anakin fought Dooku for a while not by himself before hand but with Obi Wan this is a one on one fight no back up assistance for either of them yeah.
@MassConfusion07
@MassConfusion07 11 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Malgus...his tie to the dark side is as close to perfect as you can get. Sidious was a planner and a schemer, and though he is an amazing duelist, Malgus just has too much raw strength behind his excessively well trained Djem So form
@ByronLumley2009
@ByronLumley2009 11 жыл бұрын
Darth Malgus was able to conjure a force storm, though somewhat random, amazing effective as a last ditch effort.
@razoreye001
@razoreye001 10 жыл бұрын
It short-circuits his life support.
@gregkun1
@gregkun1 8 жыл бұрын
I agree with that verdict comment. Having touches in multitude of abilities, your limited to prefight preparation, for the end victory. Starting the fighting, right at the get-go your too busy distracting your self to look for advantage, while staving off the enviable defeat. Dooku actually confirmed this when instructing grievous on light saber combat with a jedi. I wonder if he knew that pertained to him self also in a fight of this caliber? Oh well, who knows. lol Also Jensaari, the way you sound in the video. Was like you couldn't believe that Malgus would win this fight and swallow a bitter pill. lol but could be wrong.
@SandisRozuleja
@SandisRozuleja 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you for quality information!...
@daviduezato575
@daviduezato575 11 жыл бұрын
She was referring to Sith Sorcery and Alchemy. Both of which was lost, until Bane. In terms of raw potential power, force abilities, and skill with the lightsaber nothing would of changed. Once Sith Sorcery and Alchemy had been relearned by the Sith proceeding Bane they were more powerful because all of that knowledge was put into 1 being of even increasingly greater force potential.
@JediGeronimo
@JediGeronimo 11 жыл бұрын
I think a cool idea may be doing a vs with an "all star" team for each side. Maybe take 5 all star sith vs 5 all star Jedi.... just a thought! :)
@XSgtSniperShotX
@XSgtSniperShotX 10 жыл бұрын
Owen and Beru were fully aware who Anakin was. Don't forget the reason why Ben/Obi Wan was not allowed by Luke's fosters to see him. They didn't want the same to happen to Luke. Also, they didn't believe in the all that Force-stuff.
@FatEd2012
@FatEd2012 11 жыл бұрын
I admire your passion in making these videos and i highly enjoy watching them,even tough i don't really know alot of the other characters because i only watched the movies and some of the games.
@drrsc
@drrsc 11 жыл бұрын
interesting to note that during the combat, dooku vs kenobi-skywalker, the good count was kicking the behinds of both kenobi-skywalker with ease - it was not until kenobi was rendered unconscious that skywalker was able to get the upper hand. i believe this was due ONLY to aid from palpatine who craftily withheld help while kenobi would have been able to detect same. also, it seems obvious that palpatine had to dispose of dooku to prevent him from becoming a rival
@ColvyMolvy
@ColvyMolvy 9 жыл бұрын
I think it would all come down to force abilities in a duel. Since Dooku is saber form is more refined, I doubt he would be able to keep up with Malgus, especially if the latter was to combo his attacks adding force attacks. Add in his brute strength and you'd find your precise and refined technique would be simply overwhelmed
@DeWetBarnard777
@DeWetBarnard777 10 жыл бұрын
Please do something with Nihilus he is my favorite sith please :)
@XSgtSniperShotX
@XSgtSniperShotX 10 жыл бұрын
Simply because Vader preferred lightsaber prowess over ranged Force Attacks. Don't forget that Vader was actually capable of casting Lightning attacks. But not in the ordinary fashion. He was capable of creating a bubble with kinetic power which would transform into a barrage of electricity upon contact with an enemy.
@Emperordmb
@Emperordmb 11 жыл бұрын
This sort of thing is mentioned in a legacy era novel. I forget the exact affiliations, but some guys knocked some padawans out with knockout gas before trying to kill them instead of poisonous gas, because the poisonous gas is lethal so the padawans would have sensed it, but because the knockout gas wasn't lethal they didn't sense it. I think it's the same thing going on here.
@TengouX
@TengouX 11 жыл бұрын
"Is it better to know a lot of tricks or be really good at a few?" Bruce Lee would say the latter.
@cup1966wow
@cup1966wow 11 жыл бұрын
Anakin and Dooku blocked dark reaper, Sidious taught Dooku how to be resistant to it, also Sidious does not teach his adepts something he can't defend against. Luke blocked Aboleth from draining him. His feat was raising Ravager from Malachor, but Malachor is a force nexus, and he seems to a have a bond through the force with it. So there were circumstances around that.
@gweiloxiu9862
@gweiloxiu9862 11 жыл бұрын
Last but not least, can you even imagine Dooku saying or being able to back up this: ""Fellow Sith... Too long the strength of the Empire has been beholden to the infighting of the Dark Council and the disappearance of an apathetic Emperor.Sith, warriors everywhere, I declare a new Empire, open to all who long for conquest, freedom from inhibition and the right to follow their passions. The Dark Council is dissolved...cast aside your titles and let me lead you to victory." ―Darth Malgus"
@phillippage8127
@phillippage8127 9 жыл бұрын
After actually playing through SWTOR to endgame, I can't believe even with creative scenarios that people will find Dooku to be the victor. Malgus is a superb warrior, able to overcome and execute, in one on one battle, a Jedi Master when he was only an apprentice. Decades later, in the last battle that he appears in in SWTOR, he makes the comment "I haven't had this much fun since Coruscant", before force choking 3 Sith Masters simultaneously, holding them in the air while simultaneously engaging in full battle with a 4th Sith Master, while the three Sith Masters are hanging by their necks in thin air, watching the battle take place. He does this several times. And then if he is not overcome fast enough, he blasts the entire group of four with a huge column of lightning that overcomes and kills them all nearly instantly. Oh, and when he's taking a break from force choking three Sith Masters simultaneously, he's dueling the entire group of 4 by himself, because he dismissed all of his honor guards deliberately to have "more fun". Dooku would be a bump in the road, one that he'd overcome with disdain and contempt.
@DeusExMachina10001
@DeusExMachina10001 11 жыл бұрын
Actually, Lucas has stated that he considered the Jedi Order of the immediate pre-Empire era to be at the all-time peak of it's martial skill and power.
@XSgtSniperShotX
@XSgtSniperShotX 10 жыл бұрын
I don't know anymore. Could be, though. Seems like I'll be scanning through a sh*t load of books this evening trying to find it again.
@pvhep4036
@pvhep4036 3 жыл бұрын
Malgus is the most underrated Sith Lord
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