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EvanNova95 Hey Nova

EvanNova95 Well if the director knows his own content knows the flaws then remakes are well done. But if its given to some random director that just uses the characters and uses his vision of it then yes the original will be better.

Evannova95 when does your season 5 start off

EvanNova95 How about this one for you: Luke Skywalker vs Darth Krate.

I concur.

Well, all of you do a pretty damn good job. I love Star Wars and your videos gave me a deeper and better understanding of why.

I was just like " i wonder when antoine is gonna upload?" *Remebers versus series update..* OH SHIT!!

Antoine Bandele Antoine, I gotta agree with you, though to be fair you're not so bad at it yourself! Dante.

100dfrost Antoine, I hope you know that was supposed to be classic understatement. Dante.

Lord Vader Love your videos!

Give me that plot armor

Darth Caedus would win but in a hard battle. Exar Kun might be a little bit better in lightsaber dueling but in force powers Jacen is superior.

I'm actually planning on doing Exar Kun Vs. Cade Skywalker.

@@Jensaarai1 Exar Kun vs Windu

+swcallow This is match I am in love with. Personally I think Krayt pulls a win due to his superior force abilities (ie shatterpoint and Dark Transfer). Krayt is more powerful, can deal with sorcery, lightning, force blasts (tutaminis), and retaliate with greater force (ha ha). Lightsaber dualists is tricky because while I think Krayt can deal with trakata, idk about the matchup between dual blades and archaic saberstaff. I think that's sort of an impass but idk about that.

swcallow I would say Exar Kun. He drained entire Massassi population, annihilated giant monsters and almost killed Master Luke Skywalker. Can Darth Krayt defeat him?

Old Krayt doesn't stand a chance but Reborn Krayt is considered a great match for him. Although, Kun would win.

Reborn krayt I could see barely beating exar kun. Reborn krayt was almost as strong as Darth Caedus so that’s really impressive.

@@ggamesgarner8027 Reborn Krayt was easily above Caedus.

I totally agree. I have faced some opponents like that on MMA to and they fuck up for themselfs

I completely agree with you! Lord Vader is battle hardened and modified his combat to a superior level to be damn near flawless.

+Jacob Sailer Big problem there is while Darth Vader's battle technique is beyond question as are the utilisation of his force powers. The fact is he was nowhere near the tactical genius the fans wish he was and constantly underestimated the strength of his enemies which lead to him being defeated both by Obi-Wan as an apprentice and Galven Marek as a leader. His focus on individual goals has always cost him in the bigger picture and is ultimately why he failed in his intended goals.

+Jacob Sailer Yes, you did talk about it greatly, but you didn't actually analyse what it would do to Kun. You even stated yourself that Kun doesn't plan out his attack in advance, relying on improvisation. Which would still play in his favor against Vader as there would be no pattern for Vader to follow. I have faced opponents like this in MMA and Knife on Knife sessions, and the result is always the same. They will go in almost completely blind to their opponent until they actually meet. Sure they stay in for a lengthy period of time, but eventually the more prepare always wins out. First in all MMA fights you study the way someone fights for weeks to months before hand. Even those that seem to "Go In Blind" as you say, even if they disregard what they learn from studding you eariler fights. Second to this to compair this to MMAis nowhere is the same ballpark as these two combatants are from two different times with totaly different training styles. It would be like you going against a Glatiator. They are well versed in not only weapon combat but also hand to hand combat and most where born into a worrior life while you where not. Kun was brought up as a Jedi from a very young age while vader was not.... now before you say yes Vader was.... Not really as Vader would have been considered a late teen just starting preschool and for that reason Yoda and the other Masters did not want him trained in the first place. While Kun started his training as an infint. Vader is a MASTER TACTICIAN. Everything he does is planned out, and his use of the environment is going to throw him Kun off his game no matter how powerful he is. Even with his unpredictability in hand to hand, it's still grounded to the basics of lighsaber combating styles. Yes Vader is a master tactician and so is Kun. Kun just fights in a chaotic manner and doesent fall into a patteren for a reason and makes it look like he has no plan but in the end that is his best plan in a Saber fight as like stated most if not all Jedi stick to only one form and is predictable. As you so pointed out at the end of this statment it's still grounded in lightsaber combat styles.... Well as said Vader trained himself to find the patteren of a fighter and exploit that while Kun is chaotic in his fighting style and never developing a patteren,Vader would not be able to exploit and weaknesses that way. This is what plays into Vader's advantage. Vader is 45, Kun 25. Vader has spent nearly thirty years in nonstop combat, where as Kun only under ten and close to five. As such, Vader's understanding of strategy and understanding his opponents is FAR more developed simply because he has faced far more opponents in rapid and everchanging battle situations. Age would not be an advantage in this fight as Vader is not only getting on in age (Yes hes a cyborg) and well past his prime. He is actually only about 1/4th his formor strength in the force as he was before turning to the darkside and almost dieing. While Kun is still in his prime and even has vastly more training in the darkside then Vader does. As to Vader having "FAR more" understanding of his opponents is not true. From the day the Jedi Purge started most Knights and Masters where out in the field. The ones still at the Temple where mostly newly made Knights and youndlings with a handfull of Older knights and less then a handfull of Masters. I would say 90% of the knights and Masters where killed in Order 66. The rest where killed in the next 19 years execpt for a handfull that survived or where turned to the darkside. So Vader only had a few years of fighting Jedi on any kind of regular basis. Kun on the other hand Spent years about 20 years of saber and force training every day of his life for just about every waking moment of said time. Then after he Became The Dark Lord of the Sith he was in battle after battle against Knights and Masters alike for at least the next 8-10 years and never once lost a saber fight, while both as Anikin and Vader have lost many fights. Granted most where to Starkiller and Starkiller was nothing compaired to Kun. 1.) His experience to rapidly changing conditions will be more in depth. Take an incredibly skilled, mind you over confident boxer vs an experienced, older boxer. Because of his superior time in the ring, the older is going simply how and more importantly when to outstep his opponent or walk him right into a trap. 1) Vader is not quick to Rapidly changing fighting and no patteren to how the person fights. Yes an Older boxer has experiance over a younger one but the younger one has the strength and stamina to go longer and harder the the Older boxer does.But then again it comes down to who gets the lucky blow in first when it comes to boxing. Yes Vader is a Master Manipulater of Jedi and non force users But not someone that is Better in Darkside abilities such as Kun. 2.) His combat analysis. This isn't something that you touched up on at all. Vader has faced down enough opponent's, some more powerful than him, that his ability to judge exactly what their capable of doing. This is what makes his fear ability so effective. And do you know what Vader will pick up on first? Kun's arrogance. 2) Do you really think someone that has lost some duels is better then someone that has never lost a duel.... Take your MMA and Boxing as an example... Fighter V has lost say 10 fights while Fighter K has never lost a fight who would you say if the better fighter? Yes Vader has faced stronger and better fighters then himself and lost a few fights and won some. Kun has as well but the BIG differance is Kun has NEVER lost a fight. You'er talking about Kun being arrogant.... Vader is the biggest one to be called arrogant and in doing so has lost a fair few fights... yes he learns from those mistakes but Kun has a right to be arrogant as he has never lost a fight. Forget everything else talked about. That is Kun's undeniable, undefendable weakness. His arrogance. You stated that Vader's general fear tactics wouldn't work on him because of it. It's the exact opposite. Vader will detect that first and immediately exploit it. He will begin to humiliate him, goad him into exactly where Vader wants him. Kun will push himself into a trap because he needs to prove to himself that he is the greatest there is. He can't accept weakness. And when he tries to overwhelm Vader, he will find Vader's blade right through his back. Vader has the same exact weakness and Kun is also a master manipulater. (My guess is you know nothing about Exar Kun or anything about the EU). Though Kun uses the force maniplation more then taunting and in a fight he relies on his unbeaten fighting style while Vader taunts and throws things around when he notices someone is the better fighter also Vader is used to fighting Jedi not Sith Lords while Kun fights both Jedi and Sith alike as well as a Sith spirit (I.E. something that is made of the darkside) something Vader is not used to. Vader relies on making someone that fights in a calm way to get mad and falter whell doing that to Kun will only make him stronger as He is already a Sith Lord and not some lightside Jedi that has never Fallen under the sway of the Darkside. So yes let Vader do his usual stuff and make Kun that much stronger and kill Vader that much faster.

+Adam Anouer OBIWAN NEVER BEAT DARTH VADER, sorry about caps lock, too lazy to change it. obiwan beat anakin skywalker not darth vader. second he is take then in their prime not their first time in suit, his prime is during empire strike back, if galvern marek took place during the main story, his story would of took place during the early days of lord vader, before he developed the skill and knowledge protect himself. he had to change his whole fighting style to work for him.,

It just goes to show how skill based the Starwars EU was, in some ways the SW EU is more Naruto than Naruto with the amount of strategy and stuff that goes into combat

hang in there man

Stay strong buddy.

thanks :)

@@andrewperkin7192 5 years later hope things are going well

@@tiredjediknight3110 wow thanks and yes things are much better ! Currently studying at university and thank these videos for giving me alot of content through highschool! Hope your well too dude

I fully agree if Sylva can make Exar Kun go ape shit with a little scratch just think what being hit with stray debris would do to him? All whilst vader mocks and taunts him like the sass master we all know he is. But then that leads to Exar just going berserk and cutting lose in the force, my question for you is do you think vader can handle exar kun going dark avatar in this way? Would he use force lightning? maybe but i think its more likely he just tries to blow vader up with the amulet and I have honestly no idea how he would deal with that unless the amulet is just an ancient version of force destruction? Which Vader does know about cause jerric and thus would have ideas active barriers and the like if they are similar which I feel they should be then yeah vader has this high diff because exar is still going to be dropping everything he has and that boy is powerful and wild but vader would endure and just cut him down the last thing to be heard is vaders last remark, a jab at kun for being weak. I also think using the shrine fight as strong evidence is iffy since that was still an early time for vader still not in his prime, yes he wasnt as painfully raw and unsure as he was when he first met shrine but still man got years more experience and literally taught his apprentice to be unpredictable and wild and managed to fuck him up pretty good.

Thats a lot of assumptions made on your sides here.. That exar is bark and no bite. That he cant recover from a hit, AT ALL That vader will recognize an artifact he never seen before... Idk what to tell you, the guy paralyzed the whole senate, defeated one of the greatest jedi martial artist and also jedi grandmaster, and has possession of one of the greater sith powers... And he can force lightning. And what vader can do? “Defend from kun’s chaotic jabs, maybe if he’ll find a pattern, it there is a pattern”.. “He can take lots of hits”&”he have stamina”, ok both of those are true.. And he “maybe know the artifacts of kun, and’ll do something about it, exploit it Idk how tho :P” All Im getting here is that vader could off chance get a hit on kun, hold his ground.. nah thats it. Vader is really a great and experienced sith of the SW EU, but he is basically a “can opener” compare to kun’s power.

@@tommyg506 u still have yet to say why Vader can beat exar… last time I checked Vader don’t know shit about dark side relics😂😂

@@rileyblais7850 imma go out on a limb here and say that Vader definitely knows about past sith lords and there artifacts sidings has wells of knowledge from holocrons and artifacts not to mention plagues the wise

@@rileyblais7850 sidious *

Vader's fight with Maul had Maul kick his ass until he stabbed through himself and Vader himself taunted Obi-wan on how weak he became. Next, numerous Jedi, including Exar Kun, are capable of facing several force users at once. Revan was reputed to and Malak was said to be a better swordsman than Revan.

you need to do more research on exar kun he was more powerful than vader and dooku, he not only mastered all lightsaber form but also had lightsaber skills from tulak hord who was a better duelist than vader and dooku, exar kun had the ability of acknowledge absortion and power absortion, he possessed the dark holocrom which was the most powerful holocrom in sith history he had acknowledge of over 10,000 years of sith magic archemy rituals lightsaber skills ect, exar was physically more gifted than dooku and vader, exar kun escalate above naga sadow which papaltine was scared to perform his rituals and archemy, kun was more powerful in the force than nadd and naga sadow both sith were easily star booster, and kun destroyed nadd spirit before his prime, exar kun tanked force sever from his master who had 4000 years of experience in the light side of the force and kun easy overpowered him, kun defeat a jedi master who tanked the explosion of over 10 supernovas and was amped by a light nexus of an entire planet, and kun one shot him, exar kun mastered sith archemy rituals and sith magic from marka ragnos tulak hord ajunta pall naga sadow and freedon, vader was look for help from murr spirit which was weaker than exar kun spirit that was drained and depleted by the wall of light created by over 1000 jedis using force sever and preps, kun defeat prime luke Skywalker who was estate to 2 times more powerful than the luke Skywalker from dark empire, which was more powerful than vader, Leia which was a force harmony master States that exar kun spirit was more powerful than luke and about two times stronger than vader at the least kun break all luke Skywalker defensive skills that luke Skywalker learned from yoda and obi wan finally grandmaster luke Skywalker compared exar kun spirit to emperor papaltine reborn who was a multi galactic threat

Zhengster yes he can it some reason he doesn't think of that

Absolutely. Never mind the electrical insulators in Vader's suit and his robust force defenses

I imagine Vader has tried to use his lightsaber to deflect Sidious' lightning before, and since pretty much his entire body is made up of cybernetics that were specifically made to be weak to lightning..... Yeah.

@@GayFishYe your forgetting that darth sidious has the most powerful force lightning out of all the sith as well that exar kun and darth sideous were two different sith lords.

@@danieltinsleykhvsff9622 I haven't forgotten anything. Kun is almost on Sidious' level, and both of their force lightning would be on a similar wavelength. Just that Sidious has mastered it completely by the time of Dark Empire, which was 6 years after his own and Vader's deaths.

Odann Urr hit Kun with the strongest and most dangerous of all light side powers and he shrugged it off and then one shotted him with force would. To be fair Odann was elderly than, but I agree with the rest of your points. I do definitely think Vader would best Kun.

+The HoloNet who will win between revan and krayt

Nikola Vitanov Darth Revan? Krayt wins.

+The HoloNet and lastly vader vs revan

Nikola Vitanov Again, if its Darth Revan, then Vader wins.

@Emperor Vowrawn hes better then vader yes but not even close to Sidious

@@iantheweird1384 think he could beat Sidious ngl

+Vlad the Impaler idk think lightning is the big issue. Its the force blasts from his gauntlets. Go back to the video, lightning helps but not a game deciding factor but Kun can penetrate Vader's defenses and blast him with his gauntlets.

Exar kun’s force abilities are insane. He’s the 4th most powerful sith confirmed by EU.

@@jessiezhang8311 Where did you see that?

@Jay Williams Sidious is the #1, right?

@@jessiezhang8311 Source?

banethesithari but it wasn't the lightning that would be vader fll if they fight, it would be exar kun approach to combat, vader specialize in killing the jedis of his era, he is a superior sith, superior warrior, duelist and telepath, but exar kun is the kind of duelist that brings what vader isn't suit to fight, vader wins through superior fire power, forcing the opponent to submission, kun is only focused in killing outright, he isn't a resistant fighter, neither one that have much stamina, but he will kill in the first opportunity, using his unorthodox saber and style to force openings in the opponent defense.

Rasmus Nordenstein I haven't finished watching the video ,it's just something Jeensaari said that i disagree with he says what im referring to at 36:42

banethesithari I think Sidious is the kind of dick bag who would build in a weakness to force lightning as away of destroying Vader should he try and turn on him, as a type of control

Nathan Norman But in a normal fight Vader would just block it with his saber plus im pretty sure Vader would of check his own suit given how skilled he is mechanically he could tell what weaknesses there would be and either fix them himself or get someone else to ,it's not like Sidious could openly stop it.

Rasmus Nordenstein Which comics or novels was Vaders suit badly effected by lightening ?

When's your versus video gonna be released?

Reti4 Still waiting for your versus videos Reti!

Shryne stomps. He was able to match Vader as a duelist and even land a few hits. Xanatos was repeatedly stomped by a holding back Qui Gon

While I can agree with some of your points i disagree when you say vader can use expirence to deal with kun. And thats because 1 the only force wielder that he fought who is as strong as kun is Dooku. So he is not really practiced against it, escpecially in his suit. And for bladework. No one is like exar kun. No one vader faced is at least. With all the constant adjustments and the unique saber, vader woud be pretty lost on what to do.

Drake Geer-Timmins i wasnt talking about experiance fighting someone like kun i meant combat experiance using terrain and his abillities to his advantage.

I agree with your point that when vader recognizes a equal he goes only for the kill. However i think you overestimate vader just a little, he is my favourite sith but he is not perfect. Still, good point

Darth Taters He is my favorite sith as well and I agree he is not perfect.You may be right in my argument that i over estimate him a little lol (Im not perfect either) but if I do Its only because I really like Vader. :D

Drake Geer-Timmins I have to disagree with that. Lord Vader fought numerous Jedi at once and won, that would be the same as fighting Exar Kun. Lord Vader does win by his experience.

Anya and Old Ben were much weaker than Vodo Baas & stalemating Ulic is also under question but we do not know how this fight would have proceeded without intervention. Still, Ulic was easily on the level of ROTS Anakin in terms of dueling abilities & Kun didn't even have his saberstaff yet so who knows how it's another question as to the outcome of Ulic vs Kun with his saberstaff

@@TTTTCJGKS While my opinion on who would win has not change in the 3 years since I posted that comment, my reasoning has changed. Old Ben most definitely has become rusty during his time on Tatooine, though he was still a credible threat if his defeat of A'Sharad Hett is anything to go by. The Dark Woman is also not nearly as skilled in dueling as Vodo Baas was; her prowess was more to do with the unorthodox force abilities that she had learned. What I disagree with Connor's assessment is that he gives Exar Kun too much credit with some of his force abilities. He says that he COULD use force pushes in the midst of combat, that he COULD break out the force lightning....but he never actually does. The only instance of Exar Kun even knowing force lightning to begin with (that I can recollect) is the SWTOR timeline videos, which are inconsistent in and of themselves. While I do concede that Exar Kun is the more knowledgeable force user in a general sense, Vader still outclasses him in telekinesis in regards to both magnitude and refinement and Exar has never used his powers in the midst of a lightsaber duel. It's essentially a comparison between a Warlock and a Battlemage: The one may know more sure, but the other is better at using it in actual combat. In regards to saber skills, I definitely would consider Ulic Qel Droma to be around the level of Anakin Skywalker as a form V specialist. But the primary factor that I believe would seal Exar Kun's defeat is his lackluster composure and discipline. When Githany scratched him, he lost his shit. Vodo Baas, an experienced warrior, was able to capitalize on this and knock his ass to the ground. A masterful duelist like Vader would definitely be able to break Kun's composure and score a few hits. Now if it were Spirit Exar Kun, I'd honestly give it to him. He'd been stewing in the power of his temples for millenia. On a side note, I'm surprised and disappointed that there was never a Star Wars Tales comic about his ghost giving commentary on everything that happens on Yavin since he's been dead: Anakin vs Ventress, Revan Reborn, The Battle of Yavin, etc.

Psychonis I actually was thinking that exact thing because I remembered it being used in other Darth Vader videos, it doesn't really change my opinion since Kun would never have relied on it to begin with, in any event perhaps he just forgot?

Psychonis Kun was never depicted using lightning but it is implied that he can but Vader has multiple measures to counter it

Darmeda 45 Ok? That is what we were talking about. Your point?

my point is that exar kun is a sorcerer that balances his force abilities and his lightsaber skills while vader is a wreck but is still the superior warrior he only lost because of physical handicaps and his basic force abilities may seem to put him at a disadvantage but remember, this is the guy who has taken lightsaber hits, been shot, torched with a flamethrower, been crushed underneath a building and had a grenade go off in his face, exar kun is just, as jensaarai puts it "a squishy human", no other explanation needed

Darmeda 45 Sorry, but again I don't see the relevance. As I said up top I don't disagree with the verdict, I'm questioning as to why Conner in other video's would argue the effectiveness of Force Lightning against Vader noting how he can defend himself against it while here he don't really do that against an opponent who has never demonstrated the ability outside of an rpg guide book. It is a moot point as taking Force Lightning out of the equation wouldn't really change the outcome, I just though it was a bit odd.

In.my feels

But the Kashyyk mispronunciation is killin me!

Hey I am insanely critical of these things and this was done well maybe downplayed Exar a lil bit as he would absolutely own Vader but altogether an enjoyable vid

+Luther Blackmar Actualy he is saying it correctly but to be honest there is no wrong way to say it its kinda like an acent. but it is Ka-Shik not Ka-Sheek.

+stanley callahan how would Exar defeat Vader

The HoloNet The whole video kinda explains that.

caos1925 Same here.

@@vishalyathish8581 I'm referencing an old comic. One of the only times we've ever seen Vader use Sith Magic was when he turned a man into a rancor while he was close to an artifact.

Plot armour. It's not a great explanation but it's literally the reason. There's no in universe explanation as to why Darth Maul didn't force push Obi Wan down or throw his lightsaber down into him.

Palpatine would take a dump on Kun.

Mitchell Fechter Revan could beat Exar kun Go to Evan nova Yoda can beat him

Comedy 123 he is fucking yoda

Comedy 123 exar kun would wreck revan

Darth krayt vs exar kun.

+RedTeamReview What?

I never understood to begin with why it is said that Vader can't neither deflect nor absorb force lightning with the force. He could use tutaminis and force deflection. I could understand that he can't absorb force lightning with tutaminis because of his cybernetics. But deflecting it with force deflection should be okay, or not? (Sorry for my bad english.)

Fucks sake Vader can deflect it with his lightsaber either way, this is arguably the greatest duelist of all time. He can handle lightning with his saber

+SFAras agreed if obi wan could deflect darth tyranus lightning then so could vader to a greater degree. Especially since vader would take more damage from it.

Vader is more like a paralympic athlete who had re-adapt to his amputations. His cybernetics can be just as much of a cheat, as they can keep him going for hours without fatigue.

you need to do more research on exar kun he was more powerful than vader and dooku, he not only mastered all lightsaber form but also had lightsaber skills from tulak hord who was a better duelist than vader and dooku, exar kun had the ability of acknowledge absortion and power absortion, he possessed the dark holocrom which was the most powerful holocrom in sith history he had acknowledge of over 10,000 years of sith magic archemy rituals lightsaber skills ect, exar was physically more gifted than dooku and vader, exar kun escalate above naga sadow which papaltine was scared to perform his rituals and archemy, kun was more powerful in the force than nadd and naga sadow both sith were easily star booster, and kun destroyed nadd spirit before his prime, exar kun tanked force sever from his master who had 4000 years of experience in the light side of the force and kun easy overpowered him, kun defeat a jedi master who tanked the explosion of over 10 supernovas and was amped by a light nexus of an entire planet, and kun one shot him, exar kun mastered sith archemy rituals and sith magic from marka ragnos tulak hord ajunta pall naga sadow and freedon, vader was look for help from murr spirit which was weaker than exar kun spirit that was drained and depleted by the wall of light created by over 1000 jedis using force sever and preps, kun defeat prime luke Skywalker who was estate to 2 times more powerful than the luke Skywalker from dark empire, which was more powerful than vader, Leia which was a force harmony master States that exar kun spirit was more powerful than luke and about two times stronger than vader at the least kun break all luke Skywalker defensive skills that luke Skywalker learned from yoda and obi wan finally grandmaster luke Skywalker compared exar kun spirit to emperor papaltine reborn who was a multi galactic threat

you need to do more research on exar kun he was more powerful than vader and dooku, he not only mastered all lightsaber form but also had lightsaber skills from tulak hord who was a better duelist than vader and dooku, exar kun had the ability of acknowledge absortion and power absortion, he possessed the dark holocrom which was the most powerful holocrom in sith history he had acknowledge of over 10,000 years of sith magic archemy rituals lightsaber skills ect, exar was physically more gifted than dooku and vader, exar kun escalate above naga sadow which papaltine was scared to perform his rituals and archemy, kun was more powerful in the force than nadd and naga sadow both sith were easily star booster, and kun destroyed nadd spirit before his prime, exar kun tanked force sever from his master who had 4000 years of experience in the light side of the force and kun easy overpowered him, kun defeat a jedi master who tanked the explosion of over 10 supernovas and was amped by a light nexus of an entire planet, and kun one shot him, exar kun mastered sith archemy rituals and sith magic from marka ragnos tulak hord ajunta pall naga sadow and freedon, vader was look for help from murr spirit which was weaker than exar kun spirit that was drained and depleted by the wall of light created by over 1000 jedis using force sever and preps, kun defeat prime luke Skywalker who was estate to 2 times more powerful than the luke Skywalker from dark empire, which was more powerful than vader, Leia which was a force harmony master States that exar kun spirit was more powerful than luke and about two times stronger than vader at the least kun break all luke Skywalker defensive skills that luke Skywalker learned from yoda and obi wan finally grandmaster luke Skywalker compared exar kun spirit to emperor papaltine reborn who was a multi galactic threat

Vader went against some of the weakest Jedi in the the history of Jedi. Most of the Jedi "Vader" fought were weaker then him? And besides Luke I don't think any of the Jedi Vader fought were even half as strong as kun... And some of them still put up a good fight against him.....Vader is powerful but I don't think he is as stronger then kun. But hey we both have our own opinion I could be wring since I haven't put any time into star wars in years.

+shane motha fuckin brown Elaborate. Vader at more than a few points faced multiple Jedi Masters who survived the Great Jedi Purge and he still prevailed despite the disadvantage in numbers, and having his overall Force potential cut by probably about half due to his dismemberment and the inferior cybernetics that Sidious had him fitted with.

LOL

are you still cannon no then shut up

@@jarodlandry4181 OH FUCK VADER GOT PLOT ARMOR

+NERD IT UP Odan Urr.

Jedi Knight- Jedi Guardian.

While they have been referenced by TCW and Rebels, the 7 Forms originated in the Expanded Universe; George has nothing to do with them.

@@Jensaarai1 so did mace windu always practice vaapad or did he create it during the clone wars/phantom menace if so what form did he use before

@@Jensaarai1 before windu made vaapad what form did he use? Also you should really do more windu versus like a dooku vs windu would be a perfect match up

+guilty170 I'd love to that match up.

and the majority of jedi, but hey that works too

+ didnt he technically lose thrice to people who were technically padawan learners? 1-Luke 2-Galen Merek

+Rip0ff Productions well Luke, at the time of vaders defeat, was basically a high end Jedi knight as yoda even said that he had nothing left to learn meaning he definitely wasn't a Padawan. Also Galen marek was a sith assassin making him a far cry from any Padawan as he would have been so much more skilled than any Padawan ever could be so no not really

hmm probably not..

I would argue that Vader could. Not saying he would be the victor but he has the potential to win that duel. He was stated as being 80% of the Emperor after being defeated on Mustafar, so it is very possible for Vader to be powerful enough with his force barriers to withstand the force attacks from Sidious. Lightsaber skill it is possible for Vader to win but it would be a hard fought battle to the point that Vader if he won would walk away with only 1 or two limbs still working.

Definitely not sidious was a master in all forms of light saber and is more attuned to the force then 1/4 of anakin s body that is left

It's possible but it's not likely, Vader would have to do everything perfectly in a scenario where he's done something to limit what Sidious can bring to bear against him. Else he would simply lose. Beating Sidious in Vader's state would require significant planning and cunning and no small share of risk on Vader's part. Prep work would be key.