Alternatively titled: The Renegade and The Paragon I originally intended to include text overlays quoting the various novels that describe their capabilities, but I was working on a deadline, and was forced to drop that.
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@TheCreepyLantern7 жыл бұрын
Bane and Luke having a conversation about the force would probably be one of the most interesting ways to frame the contrast and conflict between the light and dark sides
@Wright8057 жыл бұрын
I agree that would be fascinating to read. We get a hint of something like that in the Book of Sith when Bane writes "the Force is not fire, it is venom" (i.e. the dark side is stronger when concentrated in one rather than spread among many) and Luke adds his own comment "Bane was wrong. The Force IS fire" (i.e. the light grows stronger as one torch is used to light many others).
@fusiontoa187 жыл бұрын
idk luke was pretty boring to me
@tiredjediknight31105 жыл бұрын
Luke and Bane would find little common ground in a discussion. Two very different people with opposed viewpoints.
@Pokerface-tr1ds5 жыл бұрын
If such a conversation or debate about the force would exist, then I belive they would find one point to agree on. There is no death, there is the force. And as we all know, if there would be a thing such as a master's degree in the Force, then Bane would be a Doctor, giving Luke a run for his money, but Luke is also a Doctor in his very own kind of way :) So yes... it would be interesting to see these 2 debating the harmony of the light side vs the benefits of the perks of the dark side.
@metaljacket81284 жыл бұрын
That would be amazing to read.
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician7 жыл бұрын
"My name is Luke Skywalker And I want you to take my hand." "Ok." *Detaches his prosthetic and runs away*
@generalgrievous47225 жыл бұрын
@@dragonballtalk8527 Kylo get fucked
@elijahstimson1795 жыл бұрын
Nah, man. Durge vs. Darth Sion is best fight
@generalgrievous47225 жыл бұрын
@@elijahstimson179 battle of immortals
@nicholasryan77665 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahaha!!!!!!!
@analothor4 жыл бұрын
You left him stumped
@fairytalejediftj70417 жыл бұрын
I imagine Jensaarai sticking electrodes into the EU like Dr. Frankenstein. "It's alive! It's alive!"
@DTheCritical2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind Jen incharge of what's canonical
@sillwullivan832 жыл бұрын
Luke was in many ways the prefect Jedi, as he embodied a much healthier idea of light side attainment. He didn’t shut off his feelings and he still had attachments to the ones he loved. He experienced emotions while still having a strong sense of emotional control to keep any chaotic emotions he may have controlled. He’s not a Jedi who has simply made a life based around avoiding adversity at all costs, but a Jedi who has made a point to maintain control through adversity. So to me, Luke is a true Jedi.
@TheGhostDogg100 Жыл бұрын
Him and Quigon both.
@noahorakwue2653 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGhostDogg100 the only other Jedi I think had done this was Bastilla Shan and her descendants like Satele
@kibatgrenbuku Жыл бұрын
Also, when you look at Luke's black tunic, you'll notice that it's open like, not like the other Jedi. He's not afraid to show his emotions because, like Connor says, he's not afraid of the dark.
@grandenigma9400 Жыл бұрын
@@kibatgrenbuku He does. In fact, Luke represents the Jedaii of old, who accept the dark side as a necessary to the preservation of all life while embracing light side that was within them all. The Jedaii of old in EU however, turned away from this true ideal of force by an excessive fear of the DS true nature and as of result of “preventing the evil of the DS”. They committed greater evils to their brothers who wanted to maintain the ways old of which is the Balance between both sides of Force and it resulted 25,000 years horrors for the entire galaxy. Luke’s New Order represented the end to these horrors and the acceptance of humanity for all sentient beings within the galaxy which would result in the eventual end to Sith since they were allowed to freely express their individuality without excess fear of the DS.
@heroscapewarrior4217 Жыл бұрын
@@grandenigma9400I'm probably not as knowledgeable as u are but I get the impression the jedi turned away from old ways because of fear. The DS is powerful and most jedi are unable to be exposed to much without turning, especially in times of crisis. Yea jedi like windu, Luke maybe plo Koon can use the DS but in control most can not, so as a solution just condemn it all together. Can't be sad about the loss of a loved one if u don't have any kind of thing
@mitchelldunn91497 жыл бұрын
I like how Jen has no chill about Disney and its interpretation.
@DTheCritical4 жыл бұрын
Given his reasoning I don't blame him
@analothor4 жыл бұрын
He's a true star wars fan
@akaXAX4 жыл бұрын
Disney is a colossal abomination. Basically deemed by a huge majority of the fanbase as non canon
@kirillzakharov73364 жыл бұрын
@@akaXAX well with the firing of fucking stupid KK and promotion of Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau, Disney is headed into the right direction. Mike Zeroh confirmed that some of the EU material will be back in some form.
@_draxin_05144 жыл бұрын
@@kirillzakharov7336 Where is any of this info coming from? I'd be more than happy to see KK get what's coming to her and to see some select parts of the current Legends universe come back as EU but this all sounds too good to be true.
@goblinninja77417 жыл бұрын
Finally someone makes a VS. battle with Luke that acknowledges that Luke can adapt to the fight in stead of just saying he's like Anakin a 1 trick pony. Thank you.
@JRGProjects4 жыл бұрын
If I was fighting Luke and he tried recruit me I’d be like: Dude why didn’t you say so?
@DTheCritical2 жыл бұрын
Thats assuming you don't get killed outright
@marz43052 жыл бұрын
@@DTheCritical Luke is a psychological fight and if you surrender Luke will stop
@DTheCritical2 жыл бұрын
@@marz4305 Luke is a beast if your powerlevel is too low you will get killed outright
@marz43052 жыл бұрын
@@DTheCritical true but Luke doesn’t fight for fun lol if u disable ur weapon Luke will too
@SolarDragon0077 жыл бұрын
Luke: " Hello. My name is Luke Skywalker. You killed my father, prepare to die!" Darth Vader: "No actually I am your father". Luke: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
@repoman1827 жыл бұрын
hi Conner my name is Sean this is the first Comment I've ever posted on your channel but I've been watching your stuff for years. I think I've watched every single one of your versus videos and always found your analysis to be in-depth meticulous and done with a passion for the subject that only a true EU Guru. I'd like to add a Hallelujah hell yes to your comment at 4:34. I really don't like what they've done to Luke in this new continuity. if there was one thing that elevated this fictional character to a near Messianic status for me was the fact that he taught me the true meaning of never giving up. and the powers that be in their wisdom have neutered him into just like you said a depressed coward who failed the Jedi Order. thanks for reminding me what it was about Luke that truly made him the greatest Jedi Master ever. keep the flame lit!! EU first EU last EU always! May the force be with you
@anotherbloodyfanwriter19414 жыл бұрын
Long as true fans like us exist, the real Star Wars cannot die. Let the normies, sjws, and corporatist cockrings have their cheap knockoff version. We know what the real Star Wars looks like.
@lapplandkun92734 жыл бұрын
dude, nobody likes the Disney luke.
@mikaelm53674 жыл бұрын
One thing I've always found fascinating about Darth Bane is that his nature and training are not at all suited to his goals. He is a soldier, equipped and able to batter and brutalise his opponents and tear through opposition. while not unsuited to cunning and adaptability, he is *not* a grand schemer, or someone who fights as one. And yet, he forces his way to that end through sheer indomitable will. This leaves him open to many mistakes, as he is trying to create the mould that would eventually be exemplified in Darth Plagueis while having the inclinations and temperament of Malgus, seeing that *that* is what the dark side and the Sith need to survive and thrive. His success, despite these shortcomings, are I think his most laudable accomplishments.
@jaydom82642 жыл бұрын
I disagree that he was not a grand schemer. He literally created “the grand plan” of the sith, which succeeded in darth sidious. He also became the sole dark lord of the sith by tricking the brotherhood of darkness into destroying themselves with the thought bomb. He schemed his way into extraordinary weath and power in his lifetime in order to further the grand plan. Not bad for the son of a drunken miner.
@lordoffaiyum9727 Жыл бұрын
@@jaydom8264 Facts who grew up in the mines while sidious had wealth and books and schooling.
@dynastywarriorlord077 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how both Luke and Bane are played by Mark Hamill
@ben_that_is_fresh66965 жыл бұрын
Cyrus Gideon mark hamil beats both
@DTheCritical4 жыл бұрын
TCW is garbage and doesnt count
@lapplandkun92734 жыл бұрын
@@DTheCritical dude, who are you talking to? Plus, many star wars fans out there disagree with you.
@DTheCritical4 жыл бұрын
@@lapplandkun9273 TCW retconned alot of EU stuff that is precisely why and I was placing it out in the ether here watch this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pq5hp9ph3ai9k5s.html
@lapplandkun92734 жыл бұрын
@@DTheCritical that doesn't answer my question of who are you replying to, and my point still stands of the clone wars show being beloved. Also, are you EU fans that stuck up and think its so perfect that it doesn't also have flaws and it's a gigantic mess at times as well?
@_Korinzu7 жыл бұрын
4:31 Thank you for that. Seriously, was there anything with the EU before, I ask anyone this.
@raginginnuendo41137 жыл бұрын
What I take away from this: PoD Bane is jello while Luke is silly putty.
@Nicholas.Rogala7 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I completely agree with you about the Disnification of Luke.
@Dqrthmalgus7 жыл бұрын
looks like I'm not gonna sleep tonight
@sketchstevens58597 жыл бұрын
Very good. But when will we see Krayt vs Kun. The Renegade Rancors?
@anotherbloodyfanwriter19414 жыл бұрын
Now that’s a matchup
@pyromania10184 ай бұрын
It's kind of a stomp in Krayt's favor. Post-resurrection!Krayt was in Palpatine's weight class.
@Nephalem20023 ай бұрын
@@pyromania1018Yeah it’d be a lot closer if it was pre-Revive
@Matthew-Anthony3 жыл бұрын
0:17 "A young miner named, Dessel rose from poverty to being an annointed Sith Lord." That is some SERIOUS income mobility.
@Matthew-Anthony3 жыл бұрын
@@therake8897 Are you serious?
@sillwullivan832 жыл бұрын
@@Matthew-Anthony I think he was making a joke.
@Matthew-Anthony2 жыл бұрын
@@sillwullivan83 His comment is gone. What was he joking about?
@noahorakwue26533 жыл бұрын
It’s Been three years since I’ve seen this and it’s still my favorite versus video.
@darylsdesigns66793 жыл бұрын
Mine too
@johnlamonda35147 жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved this versus! It was incredibly entertaining! Thanks!
@sagesheahan67326 жыл бұрын
LOVE the new section introductions. Never stop these versus videos. Theyre amazing.
@rudolphantler63097 жыл бұрын
Darth Nihilus and Emperor Valkorion vs Rosh Penin and a classroom of padawans
@Mandalore8637 жыл бұрын
Rudolph Antler that would be a fun slaughter to watch. they'd probably eventually consume even each other
@rudolphantler63097 жыл бұрын
#notallsithareviolent
@tiredjediknight31105 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Rosh. He wasn't as bad as he's made out
@ggamesgarner80275 жыл бұрын
Lol. If jaden was in there then he would be able to take them but he would ultimately lose.
@anotherbloodyfanwriter19414 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see Palpatine, Nihilus, and Valkorion go at each other. 3 absolute titans of the dark side.
@TresBS17 жыл бұрын
The Force has smiled upon us. Thank you, Jen. Been missing your work.
@Storyman097 жыл бұрын
I really liked this video. Very good production values and editing. I thought this was a great matchup, you excellently chose the versions of each character and the way you analyzed and detailed their characteristics made clear the close similarities alongside the stark differences in philosophy and execution each character possesses. When I initially saw the title I actually thought of Bane as the Paragon and Luke as the Renegade. Bane a paragon of the Darkside, an example of a somewhat more traditional powerful pure Darkside, whereas Luke is an example of a somewhat more unorthodox Jedi given the way he was trained, being unafraid of the dark and taking a variety of aggressive and even Darkside skills and applying them with a Jedi bent (hence the renegade part). The heart of this matchup seems to me to be about a difference in philosophy and application as it pertains to Jedi vs Sith approaches with similar skill-sets. It's very well done.
@Storyman097 жыл бұрын
Well, then I'd have to say you conveyed your intended message well and presented the information at your disposal very effectively.
@NerdNation-xj6um7 жыл бұрын
Loved the new intro. Great video in general as well. Loved your work, as I always do. You do good work, Jensaarai.
@bobbert19977 жыл бұрын
Darth bane made the rule of mountain dew (it)
@robgeorge45817 жыл бұрын
So in EU chronological order, Darth Bane is the originator of some of the great memes in Star Wars? I don't know if that adds or detracts from him.
@gfggism7 жыл бұрын
Fear The Sith Rule of Dew!
@robgeorge45817 жыл бұрын
+ShadowJedi Darth Bane should have become the spokesperson of Mountain Dew.
@gfggism7 жыл бұрын
There can be no more then two at any given time, one to embody flavor, the other to crave it.
@knightofanguish73997 жыл бұрын
I prefer sprites.
@Dagowit7 жыл бұрын
When putting Luke in Versus it's always kinda obvious he's gonna win :P
@venomrulesall7 жыл бұрын
Depends on what era you are taking him from. Be it the one from Return of the jedi or when he was Grand master
@Dagowit7 жыл бұрын
It's usually at their primes
@VSX0021OmegaGundam7 жыл бұрын
This is not Luke at his prime, not even close. Nor is it Bane at his prime. There are a number of individuals who could defeat Luke during this era. Grandmaster Luke? I'd say only Vitiate could put up a good match.
@williamhenning47007 жыл бұрын
Nah. Not even Vitiate. Only Sidious could give GM Luke a fight.
@Mandalore8637 жыл бұрын
William Henning Vitiate is about in the same league as ol Sheev if not equal
@hittman12226 жыл бұрын
I don't always agree with your conclusions, but I always enjoy the videos. Thank you for posting.
@mitchelldunn91497 жыл бұрын
Jen keep this art up. I legit can see these doodles getting better and better.
@DarthWill37 жыл бұрын
Well done, my friend. Good thing you put in Bane's example of Dun Moch; not many videos have that example. I think you might've forgotten his Force Wound ability, as he demonstrated against Qordis, but I'm sure Luke of _Dark Empire_ would've found a way to work around it. I especially love the way you used the way to categorize each section. Antoine would be proud. ;)
@papadragon6956 жыл бұрын
Why does Disney steal ideas from Legends and turn them into a shittier more boring version of themselves. Jacen Solo to Kylo Ren. Grandmaster Luke to depressed hermit Luke. Dark Empire to First Order. WTF
@frankg27906 жыл бұрын
Legends was a clusterfuck due to the cross-referencing, plot holes, and the occasional retcon.
@mechkota6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Thats why i only like EU legends before episode one. After episode six everything is a big mess.
@Bastion834 жыл бұрын
This video or Galen Marek Vs Lucien Dray would have to be my favorite among your vs work. Love the detail placed on fighting styles in particular.
@rayden1207 жыл бұрын
Been awhile. Good to see you back. Thanks for the new video. I'm glad to see Bane. Finished reading Bane's trilogy.
@robgeorge45817 жыл бұрын
Ok. Damn. This came out of nowhere. I definitely savored that mini rant about Cannon Luke. As always, thoughts after I fully watch the video.
@robgeorge45817 жыл бұрын
My computer died on me just a little before, so I lost my critiques...Crap. Time to retype it.
@BrandonDeriveAncestorEmpire7 жыл бұрын
*RKO meme from outta nowhere*
@robgeorge45817 жыл бұрын
+Brandon Derive No!!! Fortunately, I typed it up and posted it. It just took a while due to the amount of things I had to address.
@BrandonDeriveAncestorEmpire7 жыл бұрын
cgimofo *Goldberg glares back and returns with a spear and jackhammer combo for Team Chosen One Victory*
@michaelwilliams3695 жыл бұрын
Talks about using the force to empower ones physical attacks while simultaneously showing Robert Downey Jr. as Sherlock Holmes in a fight scene. 😂
@thundermolloy7 жыл бұрын
every video you make is amazing. please, never stop
@DionSoriano7 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love watching these Versus Series, especially when they feature Luke.
@kirillzakharov73364 жыл бұрын
if luke was able to repel Sid's lightning in ROTJ, who is superior to Bane, then by the time of Dark Empire, Luke surely would be able to defend against Bane's lightning.
@giovanniciccone13239 ай бұрын
From what I remember Luke was about to die from palpatine lightening
@kirillzakharov73369 ай бұрын
@@giovanniciccone1323 he did deflect it for a few seconds.
@jakealter55047 ай бұрын
@@kirillzakharov7336which means he’d do only a little better with bane
@johnzhou38607 ай бұрын
@@jakealter5504but that was ROTJ Luke, where dark empire Luke is vastly superior.
@jakealter55047 ай бұрын
@@johnzhou3860 I agree with you there
@garrymoloney95707 жыл бұрын
Hey Jensaarai, got to say the video was really good. It got me thinking you really hate the new disney canon, have you ever though of making a video titled why I hate the new canon, I feel like that would be hilarious to watch.
@edithume51757 жыл бұрын
Garry Moloney Ultimate Nerd Rage
@anotherbloodyfanwriter19414 жыл бұрын
I think one could honestly make a three hour 3 part trilogy rant as to why each new film is hot garbage. I don’t remember who said it, but I’ll quote him now... “The OT was a great story told masterfully. The PT was a great story told poorly. The ST was a shit story told poorly.”
@lapplandkun92734 жыл бұрын
@@edithume5175 Well, lets be honest. The Disney canon is bad either way regardless if he hates them or not.
@lapplandkun92734 жыл бұрын
@@anotherbloodyfanwriter1941 Agreed, agreed, and agreed. Whoever said that finally gets it
@psychoticsyrup47887 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai1, Another verdict that I completely agree on. You somehow manage to pave a path for these hypothetical fights that is both exciting and interesting to watch. Keep on making these awesome videos!
@aghrist7 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! Best analysis yet...nice work
@wristofkings7 жыл бұрын
Surprised you think DE Luke is only PoD Bane level. I've seen at least one favorable comparison of DE Luke to prime Exar Kun, who is comfortably above DoE Bane let alone Bane near the beginning of his Sith Lord career. Granted even DE Luke gets a bit overwanked. People think he took on DE Palpatine alone, which is decidedly not the case. He would've been mincemeat had he not been amped. Excellent versus though. Definitely one of your best matchups and puts a fresh spin on two waaaay overrequested/overwanked characters. And dead on with that panning of New Canon Luke... ugh. The NJO storylines weren't always the greatest, but taking GM Luke (as ridiculously powerful as he was) and downgrading him into a disgraced nomad and failure is such a huge bitch slap to the fans raised on EU continuity.
@VSX0021OmegaGundam7 жыл бұрын
I think it's not fair to draw conclusions about canon Luke until the next two movies drop. Maybe he's playing a longer, deeper game. I will say that I will be greatly disappointed if he did just wuss out and ran away. That being said, I didn't much care for EU Luke's evolution. He was made into a sort of gary stu. I think him being a "force god", as Jensaarai put it, was not compelling at all. He was the Superman of the SW universe, but even DC did a better job of establishing Superman's limitations than Lucasbooks did with Luke Skywalker.
@wristofkings7 жыл бұрын
I agree that Luke was pushed into Gary Stu territory and the DBZ-level of power he achieved was more than a little ridiculous. I still bought the evolution of Luke from farm boy to Jedi Grandmaster and thought he earned that status more or less fairly. It's still more satisfying than what Episode VII gave us. We'll see if VIII fixes it but my hopes aren't high.
@nerdsforever48527 жыл бұрын
EU Luke could have posed a challenge to Galgcutus
@banethesithari7 жыл бұрын
wristofkings POD Bane is certainly comparable to prime Kun and and Prime Bane is almost certainly superior to Kun. Bane is way more effective with the force and is at least as skilled and kun with a blade though likely more so
@banethesithari7 жыл бұрын
Nerds forever No dude galactus no sells hits from casual planet busters...Luke couldnt do shit to Galactus
@lilmike1780 Жыл бұрын
Thank god for legends ….. period
@noahorakwue2653 Жыл бұрын
Damn straight!!!
@raycavazos89272 жыл бұрын
I know that I am way late to this party, but these videos are fantastic man
@saintjamesent.8667 жыл бұрын
Loved the video dude. Don't worry about extra graphics, I'll I need is your excellent analyses. Great match-up BTW.
@alexalexalex927 жыл бұрын
Amazing work, Connor--definitely one of your best videos to date. Quick questions: what are our chances of seeing Plo vs Jerec? Or Aran Leneer vs Senya Tirell? TCW Maul vs Bultar Swan? Just for kicks, how about Darth Vectivus vs Master Fay?
@macattackk7 жыл бұрын
Evan TCW Maul would slaughter Baltar Swan lol
@ben_that_is_fresh66967 жыл бұрын
Evan I don't think we have enough information about Aran Leneer to put her in a versus series, just the Old Republic novel Decived
@alexalexalex927 жыл бұрын
@Macattack Agreed--I'm not so much concerned with who wins as how Maul wins. I'd love to get him into a great unarmed fight, in addition to a full duel, and Swan seems like a great opponent for that.
@alexalexalex927 жыл бұрын
Ben Allen true, but Jensaarai also made Warb Null a character, so...
@macattackk7 жыл бұрын
Evan yeh but that was basically entirely speculation. Personally I don't like those types of analysis, as it's basically just Jensaarai's opinion, with no facts to ground it. To be fair Aran Leneer has more that Warb Null has, as she actually has two duels
@cammykins58137 жыл бұрын
4:20 so true gm Luke is moreover powerful than Yoda himself.
@iceomistar43023 жыл бұрын
Hell Dark Empire Luke was more than a match for Sidious.
@VulKus1172 жыл бұрын
@@iceomistar4302 He wasn’t, not without others help. Luke only outclasses Sidious when he reaches his level attained as a Grandmaster.
@andybrummel55557 жыл бұрын
yay!! love your vs series!!
@bigstampede92862 жыл бұрын
Love your videos bro. Love the information.
@generalhorse4937 жыл бұрын
Do Ulic-qel-Droma vs Anakin Skywalker
@TheNuisanceBird6 жыл бұрын
One sided in Anakin's favor.
@generalhorse4936 жыл бұрын
The matchup is more important/cool than who wins. That's why I would love to see Quinlan Vos and Aayla Secura vs Cade Skywalker and Shado Vao despite knowing who will win that.
@tiredjediknight31105 жыл бұрын
@@generalhorse493 Quinlan can hold his ground for a time but he wouldn't defeat Cade. Similarly Shado should be able to take Aayla
@generalhorse4935 жыл бұрын
True, but a good matchup is simply about the characters and their abilities plus their similarities. That's why I chose those four even though it's clear which two would probably win, especially since I haven't seen them featured yet.
@ggamesgarner80275 жыл бұрын
Anakin would win.
@youngsmitty3477 жыл бұрын
Nice! Also, what's up with the chanting in the opening?
@spaceonisorceress44067 жыл бұрын
One of the lesser known aspects of the Rule of Two is that Darth Bane decreed all presence or mention of the Sith must be accompanied by ominous chanting in some form or another. It helps to focus the Dark Side.
@JamesBlackman137 жыл бұрын
Lol
@alialramadhan47486 жыл бұрын
huh I don't recall anything about that in the books, thx for letting us know good sir.
@cloudftw1136 жыл бұрын
Logan Smith I know it’s an old comment, but the chanting is from Halo 5 if memory serves. The soundtrack is called covenant prayers.
@vidasusteddybearbiscuiteat34857 жыл бұрын
Good video keep up the great work can't wait for the next one
@Xxonfire1212xX7 жыл бұрын
Great audio! Awesome video as usual!
@dylanlewis30387 жыл бұрын
This fight is Mark Hamill vs himself. He voiced Bane in the Clone Wars. It was awesome.
@macattackk7 жыл бұрын
Dylan Lewis yeh but we don't talk about that here lol
@sebas82255 жыл бұрын
Saw some episodes of the clone wars it was so bad, I kept doing other things while the episodes were going on.
@dynastywarriorlord072 жыл бұрын
At least the character played by Mark Hamill won this VS series
@kagamiuchihathebeast5862 Жыл бұрын
it was stupid, tcw is for losers
@michaelterrell5061 Жыл бұрын
I seriously don’t understand why people don’t like TCW, it was objectively amazing, and let’s stop pretending that legends didn’t get ridiculous as well. Oh and I agree with your point by the way.
@crazyscotsman93276 жыл бұрын
I am still hoping you are making Kaa'sim vs Battlemaster Kao Cen Derach. And I wonder what you think, do you think that Bane would have survived the duel on Tython without his Oblisk armor?
@matthewwhite45646 жыл бұрын
Mace, while this is true, i wont dispute that, I would like to point out that on Tython, Bane was aware of the advantages offered by the orbalisk armor and molded his lightsaber style around basically being an untouchable juggernaut. in Dynasty, he was aware he wasn't lightsaber impervious and so had retooled his style. Meaning that, if he hadn't had the armor, his fighting style would have been very different than what we actually see in the novel
@sergeantassassin34256 жыл бұрын
+Matthew White It's been a while since I've read the books, but I think he wasn't anticipating having his Force Lightning redirected back in his face like it was. He unleashed a MASSIVE torrent of very powerful Lightning at his foe, which was redirected and ended up striking him. If he'd not been wearing the armor, it's more likely than not that he would have died right then and there.
@momo11775 жыл бұрын
@@sergeantassassin3425 dude the only reason he almost died in the novel was because of the orbelisks dying from his lightning and releasing their toxin into bane, I have never seen any versus battle with him on youtube where he isn't either wanked to Oblivion or severely downplayed
@sergeantassassin34255 жыл бұрын
@@momo1177 Yes, but keep in mind: the torrent of lightning he unleashed was absolutely devastating. Had he not been wearing the armor to begin with, it's very likely he would have died from it instead of nearly dying from the Orbalisk toxin. The lightning instantly killed the Jedi who had thrown up the protection bubble to begin with, and immediately knocked Bane unconscious, grievously wounding him despite his Orbalisk armor, and killed every last Orbalisk that was on his body.
@momo11775 жыл бұрын
@@sergeantassassin3425 yes you're right but do keep in mind that that jedi master was already dying so the lightning might have just finished him off and the orbelisks are weak to lightning so they couldn't have absorbed that much force. Also Banes helmet was metallic and metall conducts electrecity, which lends credence to him probably surviving the attack if it hadn't been for the orbelisks (though it would have probably knocked him out cold either way)
@ToadsarebetterthanFrogs7 жыл бұрын
Tbh this was very interesting and had no idea who would win. Cool video Jensaarai
@mattmaughan68716 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the story style narration of the final battle in your vs vids. This battle in particular.
@lovefrompraha6 жыл бұрын
Didn't Bane overcome his weakness against Jar-kai? He trained with kasim, defeated kasim, trained zannah in a form of it, and faced it's best practitioner and orbalisks aside, wasn't particularly overwhelmed by it, though I agree without it, she would've won
@tiredjediknight31105 жыл бұрын
In all likelihood yes. The issue is that we don't have any demonstrations to draw from that conclusively prove it. The Tython duel isn't really relevant given that Bane's technique at that time was based around the invulnerability that the orbalisks provided him. Without it his style would have been entirely different by the time him and Lsu faced one another.
@JediAcolyte947 жыл бұрын
+Jensaarai1 Always glad to see another vid from you. Can we still look forward to seeing Darth Krayt vs. Exar Kun or Palpatine?
@masonwright9427 жыл бұрын
JediAcolyte22 I've been waiting for this for foreverrrrrrr
@alexalexalex927 жыл бұрын
AGREED lets get this going asap
@subraxas7 жыл бұрын
Crosby vs Malkin
@williamhenning47007 жыл бұрын
Krayt vs Kun would be amazing.
@Adrian217 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Krayt vs Kun.
@TheBrunarr7 жыл бұрын
Great match-up, can't wait for the verdict
@Erebus9227 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro!
@animalknight60177 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video with kenobi fighting either Exar kun or Galen merick
@robgeorge45817 жыл бұрын
No Jensarrai1 but to make this short, Kun kicks Kenobi's ass but Kenobi beats Galen (depends how accurate PROXY"s Kenobi's module really is).
@RP_Mamba7 жыл бұрын
Animalknight 60 Kuhn decisively beats Kenobi. Marek I believe wins because Obi Wan's weak force defense would allow Marek to simply pound on him with force abilities.
@robgeorge45817 жыл бұрын
+VeyronSSNinja Kenobi's passive tk def is weak, but Galen cant even penetrate the tk barriers of low level force adepts. But then again, lightning+hes chucking everything at you rapid fire.
@TheNuisanceBird6 жыл бұрын
Exar > Kenobi > Galen.
@justsomerandomguyonline27846 жыл бұрын
TheNuisanceBird Exar Kun>Marek>Kenobi IMO
@neonleaf40517 жыл бұрын
Shaak ti vs ROTS Anakin.
@vincentescolano7 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@kiadisandwich18367 жыл бұрын
No!
@vincentescolano7 жыл бұрын
Ki Adi Sandwich Shaak Ti would win. There is nothing Anakin has in his array of abilities that she could not at least deal with. On the other hand Shaak Ti is a master of lighsaber combat with a unique hybrid form that allows her to eliminate all weaknesses of her chosen styles and reap all the benefits. Her powerful knowledge in the force is also a deadly asset in her arsenal.
@neonleaf40517 жыл бұрын
Ki Adi Sandwich Shaak Ti would slay Anakin.
@icarlyrocks25667 жыл бұрын
Neon leaf Shaak Ti all the way
@Reactiontime11186 жыл бұрын
Very intellegent breakdown. Instant Subscribe
@noble61767 жыл бұрын
Nice halo music you played in the background
@andrewstokes66237 жыл бұрын
Do you think your next vs video can be Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Malgus? I feel that Anakin takes it because he goes in to a fight on the offence, but unless you piss him off prior you get a very deadly and a calm deadly Anakin Skywalker, Malgus falls victim of going too crazy with his lightsaber moves when he gets heated and develops a sense of tunnel vision because of this, I personally feel this is why a level headed fighter like Obi Wan Kenobi or the afore mentioned Anakin Skywalker(he is usually level headed but he won't be unless you piss him off)would beat Malgus in an out and out fight to the death, though I am a BIG Anakin Skywalker fanboy so I will concede to bias. However this is Anakin Skywalker vs Darth Malgus. Physicality = Anakin, Malgus is about 60 by the sacking of the Jedi temple and has a respirator which Anakin can easily exploit, they have comparable strength but Anakin is faster, they both have very high pain thresh holds as well so that is moot. Use of the force = Equals, Anakin has more raw power yes and their variety with their power is comparable. Malgus is a very well rounded force user, male storm, push, pull, choke, lightning, saber throw, cheating death and I wouldn't put it past him that he can use basic mind tricks and all that, Anakin has comparable variety in his powers having all of that minus male storm and lightning, but he makes up for it with force scream, being able to override the will of the force itself, he could subdue both entities of the light AND dark sides of the force and he's able to move really heavy objects with ease(using this to also rag doll certain individuals namely Assaj Ventress and Barris Offee)like the separatist dreadnought in the comics he was able to redirect with no issue so they're equals in my eyes. Duelling skills = Anakin, I feel that his showings are more impressive than Malgus as a pure lightsaber duelist as he bested THE master of makashi for his time in Count Dooku, his mentors hold him as only below Yoda and Mace Windu, he was duelling said makashi master as a fucking padawan and held out for longer than his master, bested the infamous Assaj Ventress as a bloody padawan although she was talented with killing Jedi masters and held her own against Mace bloody Windu and he was credited as being a natural warrior. Malgus isn't particularly bad but I feel his kills come from outlasting his adversaries or having them piss him off just before he engaged them increasing his strength, Satele and Cao Sen Darach = Vindican and Darach dying(the former gave Malgus a power boost as he wanted vengeance for his master), Satele Shan = Malgus won the fight, but he didn't kill her and he only won the duel when he used his force abilities on her when she was off guard and his most famous kill Ven Sallow = he did kill the Jedi, but moments prior he did witness his wife get harmed which fuelled his passion to kill the Jedi that did the deed and nearly killed both of them as Sallow almost stabbed him near the end of their duel so Malgus's victories in said duels is considerable, but for the reasons I have given his skills as a duelist have been largely over-exaggerated I feel. Weaponry = Anakin, though this doesn't really matter all too much tbh but the extra blades on Malgus's lightsaber are cool looking but have no real purpose in battle, Anakin's weapon of choice is standard but because he has given it a different option for length of the blade, it could be helpful in pushing Malgus back. The verdict: Let's say this is more comparable to Malgus's duel with Sallow, but with Anakin in place of Sallow, I feel it would start with Malgus on the attack but Anakin would be able to hold off his assault and when Malgus attempts to kick Anakin in the face, Anakin grabs his foot with his right hand pushing him back into a pillar with the force, Malgus would be staggered momentarily as the 2 engage in a blade lock with Anakin on the offensive, Malgus would try taunting Anakin however this effort would backfire as Anakin broke off the lock and sent him flying backwards into a whole group of Sith with him in the temple and he was met with a huge pillar coming his way. This kills his whole group but not him as he evaded the pillar and immediately got back up to engage Skywalker, but the duel would swiftly end while they are charging one another as Malgus would have his blade above his head, but Anakin would be running low with his blue blade at his side while sliding underneath Malgus and splitting him in half, vertically. And thus, I declare Anakin Skywalker, the chosen one of the force the victor.
@wristofkings7 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I think Malgus takes this one 6/10. Sure he's slower and his bloodthirsty nature sometimes hinders him, but between his augmented cybernetic strength and terrifying power blows I don't see Anakin easily blitzing him. Plus Malgus never gets tired, is a more cunning fighter, has an arguably superior defense, has a much more varied arsenal of Force powers and is more willing to use them than Anakin. On top of that Anakin may have taken on some fairly impressive opponents but his record is somewhat inconsistent and circumstantial at best, and on any given day he is much more used to fighting droids, bounty hunters and the like during the Clone Wars era. Get him in the zone like he was against Dooku and Malgus is fucked, but even his win against Dooku must be tempered by the fact that the old man was already depleted from fighting both Ani and Obi Wan prior to that. Meanwhile, Malgus has literally been at war for something like 30-40 years against other Force wielders and has taken on the best of them with overall strong results. He beat an exhausted Kao Cen Darach while still a Sith apprentice, outclassed Satele Shan in both their bouts before outside interference, and killed Ven Zallow fair and square, along with a slew of other Jedi and (presumably) Sith. It's a very close match, but Malgus should take slim majority.
@andrewstokes66237 жыл бұрын
Like I said, I feel Malgus's duels are usually in his favour circumstantially before they even begin as almost every duel he's been in his strength was amplified due to someone hurting someone close to him and the only time that didn't happen, he got hurt himself and sure he bested Shan when she was an apprentice and Jedi knight, but he has extreme tunnel vision in both fights, the one on Alderaan being most obvious example where he cannot hear that one trooper rushing towards him like a madman so his tunnel vision is a major hinderance in his duelling style. By contrast, Anakin was more well versed in defensive manoeuvres as well as a brilliant offence as his whole style revolves around that very concept, attack defend attack and using his superior acrobatics which I mean were VASTLY superior, he can easily out manoeuvre Malgus and either hit him with a force attack or engage in lightsaber combat with him. In my verdict, I made it clear that Anakin here is basically the Anakin that bested Dooku mindset wise so Malgus is screwed and when I said get through and exploit his respirator, notice how Anakin's style is strength but elegance at the same time? I simply feel Malgus wouldn't be able to defend due to his style being like a bar brawler squaring up to a trained fencer, sure he's threatening with his brute strength and clear experience advantage but his mindset is all over the place in a fight so that strength is often hindered whereas Anakin is tempered and more controlled than Malgus, the ROTS novella notes that Anakin out-fenced the best fencer of his era given what I've said about Anakin's state of mind being more akin to his bout with Dooku than say Obi Wan, Anakin should take it 7/10 I feel.
@wristofkings7 жыл бұрын
You make a fair point when it comes to Anakin's acrobatic prowess, but virtually all of Malgus' ranked Jedi opponents were speedy Ataru users (Darach's a Niman user but I see a lot of Form IV in there) and he still beat them down or tricked them into exposing an opening. The only speed fencer that consistently matched him as a duelist was Aryn Laneer, and she still lost when Malgus started leveraging his superior Force abilities. Which he could easily do against Anakin. I don't see the respirator nor the tunnel vision as huge deficits in a one on one duel, though it would depend on the environment. In someplace like the Jedi Temple there's not a whole lot of hazards Ani would be able to use against him. As for the respirator, Malgus is certainly not anywhere near as vulnerable as Vader and can still function without the respirator up to a point. My understanding is that it's more a treatment option than a life support device. He also has about 90% or more of Vader's defense (his main weak point being the head, everything else is very well protected). As for the brawler vs fencer analogy.... I've argued the case before that Malgus (on a good day) is more than fair competition for Dooku, but that's neither here nor there. Fencers care about technique and precision, to the expense of practicality (I realize Dooku's kind of a poor example to cite considering he always focused on not being enslaved to form). An experienced brawler on the other hand goes with what gets results, and Malgus is *very, very* experienced.
@alexalexalex927 жыл бұрын
I'd put Malgus just barely ahead in this one--I place a lot of stock into how physicality and martial ability hybridize, and Malgus does a GREAT job at this--he's all about flow and chaining EVERYTHING together the second he gets an advantage. Against someone like Satele or Zallow, who don't get quite as swallowed into the move-by-move cadence of the fight, this works against him, but Anakin is all about focusing on the here and now in his fights. He could step back if he wants to, but against an opponent this tough his instinct would almost definitely be to lean in and keep pummeling. But when Malgus inevitably puts him on the retreat for a moment, this same fact would allow Malgus to keep on pushing for longer than Anakin can fully deal with, and because he doesn't look around to escape or environment to get out of Malgus' way, he essentially gets pummeled by the bigger and far stronger Sith.
@williamhenning47007 жыл бұрын
I believe Anakin takes it in a good fight as well.
@geoffreyedgson78756 жыл бұрын
After seeing The Last Jedi, I concretely agree with your statement at 4:12-4:35. The backstory behind Ben Solo's failure is an insult to how Luke handled Kyp Durron, and his struggles with the Darkside. Most of the scenes between Luke and Ray were reused from Vima Sunrider's apprenticeship under Ulic Qel-Droma, blended with Metra Surik's detachment from the Jedi and the Force tempered with Kreia's philosophies. While I do agree with some topics and scenes inThe Last Jedi, Luke's story and actions were an insult to the character. However, on the flip side I cannot think of a better way for Luke's death than in The Last Jedi: using his powers to provide a final aid to his allies and family, accomplishing a feat like a mass Force-illusion towards tens of thousands of people from an entire planet away before releasing himself into the Force. You are completely accurate in your description of comparing Legends Luke to Cannon Luke.
@deadponic1177 жыл бұрын
Jensaarai, I have to admit, the music is top notch, your analysis of both fighters is really thorough and worth using for reference, and you analyzed both fighters at periods in their career where they were most developed, though not at the expense of practical information, good job, my questions are this; 1)why do you think Grandmaster Luke is OP? 2) what is your favourite version of luke, OT luke, DE luke , or GM Luke? my personal favourite is OT luke mainly because of his development
@roc52917 жыл бұрын
Great video! You should do a matchup of Exar Kun vs ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi. I've never seen either lose a versus match and one of them needs a loss!!!
@613mitzvoth7 жыл бұрын
The new EU continuity makes it seem as if order 66 killed all but 6 Jedi and I don't like that, I trashes the abilities of the Jedi. Now I am a Sith sympathizer but how can the sith be strong if all they had to do was get the soldiers to gun down the Jedi.
@subraxas7 жыл бұрын
You mean the new Canon, right? People usually refer to the Legends Continuity as the EU or old Canon.
@613mitzvoth7 жыл бұрын
well I meant the old EU but the new canon can still be classed as EU
@SolarDragon0077 жыл бұрын
Taylor Fridge, I do think all the Jedi should be gone by the time of A New Hope
@613mitzvoth7 жыл бұрын
SolarDragon007 not all but most if Obi-Wan and Yoda were the last ones then the Jedi truly lost their way. I just think that they severely dumbed down the Jedi power.
@SolarDragon0077 жыл бұрын
Taylor Fridge, I meant excluding Obi-Wan and Yoda.
@wulfmidknight93617 жыл бұрын
Make it DoE Bane and Luke would still stomp.
@SGK12067 жыл бұрын
Kylo Ren would stomp Luke, Bane, Yoda and Plagueis combined.
@wulfmidknight93617 жыл бұрын
I... legitimately have no idea why that bad attempt at a joke is relevant, but... OK.
@jakealter55046 жыл бұрын
Wulf MidKnight depends on which Luke
@matthewwhite45646 жыл бұрын
The Tactical Shark.......i felt a great disturbance inside my head. As though millions of brain cells cried out in terror before being silenced.......
@kingzseventh70176 жыл бұрын
DE luke beats any version of bane if it's GM luke luke potentially one shots bane
@ActionBastard6667 жыл бұрын
I agree, great video my friend!
@KitKat-jq7ow7 жыл бұрын
This looks dope!!!!
@MrMarinus187 жыл бұрын
I think Emperor Viscuit is an extremely difficult character to use. He is one of the sith that has empowered themselves to such tremendous extends that they can't really handle their own power. Another that falls into this category is Nihlus who has it to an even greater extent. Vishuit's powers differ greatly depending on time and location as he tires extremely fast and is constantly absorbing power and energy. Vischuit is more of a conduit for the powerful force energy of his empire than a powerful force individual.
@thedutchwolf974 жыл бұрын
You mean Vitiate...
@marz43052 жыл бұрын
Nihlus is hard because if his drain works he wins but if it doesn’t he loses in a matter of moments
@benmason3034 Жыл бұрын
@@thedutchwolf97vishitit
@Feenix1027 жыл бұрын
I feel I have to say this. The new cannon about making a crystal bleed to make it red is utter bullshit - its far better to keep it as a synthetic because it shows talent in creating it, and there are ideological considerations regarding its performance with cutting rather than handling being emphasised, and the creation of something by the individual that could stand against natural crystals used by Jedi. Fuck Disney for changing things.
@Darthpsychonis7 жыл бұрын
Feenix The whole thing about the color that a lightsaber takes was something that was being set up by Lucas in TCW.
@Feenix1027 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Im on about the thing in the Vader comic though, when Palpatine is telling him about why the sith blade is red.
@subraxas7 жыл бұрын
+Psychonis Really? That's strange, because it got introduced in 2016.
@sgtsebastian3117 жыл бұрын
Hearing the term " bleed a crystal" sounds even worse when spoken...
@Darthpsychonis7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the padawan episodes in TCW established that Kyber Crystals are clear when a Jedi first gets them and then takes on a color afterwards.
@ariesstorm95777 жыл бұрын
Well this is a nice surprise :) Time to break out the popcorn 🍿
@bauglir246210 ай бұрын
33:31 "... Ultimately slaying Ka'sim by literally dropping the house on him.." That really got me man!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Keep going bro, EXCELLENT VIDS!! 👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊👊
@tjmulligan30865 жыл бұрын
the worst possible insult to the character of Luke is episode 8.
@MisterAwestasia7 жыл бұрын
Thank you,Jensaari, the Disney universe has destroyed the very icon I idolized as a child. Luke would have never backed down from the the bullshit that Kylo whine did. Plus, the Jedi academy should have been founded more readily and the members more hardened by the Jedi master's ability and knowledge rather than running away. Luke could take anything the galaxy could dish out and keep getting back up.
@frankg27906 жыл бұрын
If you don't like the Disney version, then don't give Disney a single cent. Whining and complaining about how the characters in the JJ Abrams films are not the same as they are in Legends while spending your hard-earned money on them and the related merchandise is not going to solve whatever problem you have with the Star Wars Canon.
@MisterAwestasia5 жыл бұрын
Frank G I know this an old comment but no worries my good man. I have not seen a Star Wars movie of Disney’s production since rogue one.
@erieperry82417 жыл бұрын
great video. hope jensaari1 will go a video with dark empire palpatine vs old republic valkorion
@analothor4 жыл бұрын
Another great vid, happy you disregard anything brought out by Disney
@GrizzlyHansen7 жыл бұрын
Kinda a unfair match up, Luke is from the age where Jedi Power are off the charts and they made shit up as they went along, while Bane is from a more structured time where having over powered characters is kinda lame, kinda like putting old school Superman who could sneeze away a galaxy against Thor from the Avernger's movie. Old school comics made all thier characters OP as fuck, though this was a fun video.
@Jander8337 жыл бұрын
STOP TRASHING CANON LUKE. WE BARELY KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED
@darth3687 жыл бұрын
Jander833 hey compared w EU Canon Luke sucks so far I mean Disney being a power house it is let ball drop w story it's all a pale knock off of the EU w little to no creativity
@darth3687 жыл бұрын
Jander833 Basically New SW Cannon is Darth Vader a mere Shadow of what it was
@ThatDragonGuy7 жыл бұрын
learn how to spell dumbass
@Jander8337 жыл бұрын
+TreeckotheRebel could you please point the mistake out?
@ThatDragonGuy7 жыл бұрын
talking to John
@Adrian217 жыл бұрын
Your production value is getting better, I really enjoyed this match up. I'm already looking for to your next video. Do you plan to use Darth Krayt in any future videos?
@nateosborne7361 Жыл бұрын
18:49 wow if these are your art I am beyond impressed. I’d read a full comic illustrated like that
@hillhouseproductions6 жыл бұрын
Nice Halo music during the Death Star scene
@therishimazefanatic14397 жыл бұрын
Seeing this video uploaded felt like an event
@joshuaoneill31187 жыл бұрын
The transitional music for the categories reminds me of Temple of Doom.
@macattackk7 жыл бұрын
Oh damn! What a welcome surprise in my supscription feed! I'm gunna put my money on Bane before I start (assuming this is just dark empire Luke?), but this is actually a great matchup at first glance.
@macattackk7 жыл бұрын
Huh, I guess I was right there since you are only using POD Bane. In that case I am going to give it to Luke, but still close
@jsstopmotionstudios27397 жыл бұрын
Could you do a team battle of Darth Marr/Satele Shan vs. Darth Nox/Bastila Shan?
@_Korinzu7 жыл бұрын
Good versus. thanks.
@friendlysith77896 жыл бұрын
Woah, is that Halo music? Awesome!
@DamienHanma6 ай бұрын
HAPPY NEW YEAR !
@loganthekrogan21827 жыл бұрын
Never clicked on anything so fast in my life!
@robgeorge45817 жыл бұрын
+Logan the Krogan Ikr.
@Imperius17727 жыл бұрын
I liked both of these characters so I'm satisfied with the result. Also, what's the name of the music playing around 1:38? I hear it in your videos a lot. It sounds GoT-ish even though I know it isn't.
@grandenigma9400 Жыл бұрын
Halo 5 Covenant Prayers
@grandenigma9400 Жыл бұрын
Sorry for being late Fam. Years later comments are crazy.
@sci-fisithdan23157 жыл бұрын
Hello Jensaari1, I have an idea for a versus series if it isn't done already: Dark Empire Era Luke Skywalker vs the old Sith Empire warlord Darth Maglus.
@dragonballtalk85276 жыл бұрын
I like half hour or longer videos.good editing i read darth bane book one in jail while i ate ramen noodles raw
@Dektoonics_inc.4 жыл бұрын
Sheesh,in jail
@benfinn2096 жыл бұрын
Would you do a character analysis on kriea traya
@ariesstorm95777 жыл бұрын
As ever well done Jensaarai1, this was a well balanced matchup between two warriors who were just beginning to discover their true potential. It's been a while since I've read Dark Empire. Loved the honest comparison between the Luke we all grew up with and depressed drunk we see in TFA. So could Jedi like Luke and Obi-Wan be considered unofficial masters of Form VI, just with an emphasis on Form V and Form III respectively?
@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician7 жыл бұрын
Star Wars Lore Keeper I don't think they are master of form 6, but took the element of force integration, only and built it into their style.
@ariesstorm95777 жыл бұрын
Ákos Kovács I meant purely in terms of just skill with the blade, since Form VI was described in the Fightsaber Article as a combination of Forms III, IV and V built upon the foundations of Form I. Both Jedi use all four forms to some degree or another, and both Jedi are proficient in Jar'Kai which is associated with Form VI (although not exclusively, their use of Jar'Kai has more in common with Form IV tactics). But on the subject of Force integration, do you think the way a Jedi uses the Force in combat is dictated by their chosen Form? For example would a Form III stylist use telekinesis to affect the world around the opponent, seeking to off-balance rather than outright knock over with a Force push? Would a Form IV master hurl Force pushes and shoves at an opponent's exposed flanks while using the aggressive acrobatic blade work? A Form V user redirects or absorbs an attack before retaliating in kind with a solid telekinetic blast to knock the opponent on their back side. If so then would a Form VI master use any and all three tactics in Force combat against their enemies? In the novel Darth Bane Rule of Two, a young Zannah (before she even becomes Bane's apprentice) uses the Force in a subtle way, aiming a force push at Bane's feet to trip him rather than attempt to knock him in the back to the ground. It fails but Bane appreciates the method that Zannah used. Looking back it could foreshadow her personal use of Form III in lightsaber combat, never directly engaging an opponent head on but using patience to wear them down until they leave themselves exposed to a lethal counter strike.
@2TCHOLMES7 жыл бұрын
+Jensaarai What are your thoughts on Dark Empire? Because I've read that it's fallen out of favour with fans over the years.
@darylfranklin53547 жыл бұрын
21:46 you and me both, man. I think Luke is awesome as well due to his "instantaneous learning in battle".