Veteran Patton In-Depth REVIEW

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Жыл бұрын

Veteran Patton is everything EUC riders has asked for but is it any good?
This week I ride the 126v Patton and tell you if this is the compact premium 16" electric unicycle we have all been waiting for!
Episode 126- The Veteran Patton Review!
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@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

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@adel8841 Жыл бұрын

Hsiang can you show us how you installed the Luna seat on your ShermanS, maybe short video ?

@Everything13ish Жыл бұрын

Does this have a better suspension than the Sherman s? I mean you say it's better than the s22 pro but I just don't see that being possible with the cnc sliders that are installed in all the resellers I can find.

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

@@Everything13ish Veteran runs hydraulic shock so higher density medium which smooth out the travel and make it's harder to bottom out, it's not so much the geometry of the shock but rather then the type. You can swap the s22 shock out for hydraulic and you will get matching performance but it will be even more cost

@macswanton9622 Жыл бұрын

Well done! Please do more onboard commentary, and 30 seconds of out takes at the end would not go amiss. Thanks Hsiang

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

hmmm.. out takes thats a great idea! =D

@Duskys_Life Жыл бұрын

Well, I just put in a pre-order for the patton, my first wheel! Thanks for all the great videos, EUC discussions, and building the community as a whole. Keep up the stellar work mate.👍

@VECTOR_Coasters Жыл бұрын

your videos never miss! i really want to see a high performance non suspension wheel come out again because i feel like they could fit so much into a rs19 size wheel now like a c40 motor, 126v-134v, smart bms, and maybe even more battery and something like that is my dream wheel

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

I have been selfishly trying to get begode to release a 134v monster v4, so far they have ignored me..

@VECTOR_Coasters Жыл бұрын

@@OWGAC the thing is that the whole point of not using suspension would be to make a really small wheel so why make a 134v of their biggest non suspension wheel? i know you would love it but it would be VERY niche and probably wouldn’t sell well but a 134v rs or exn with c40 motor would sell very well (at least that is what i think)

@jamesordwayultralightpilot Жыл бұрын

@VECTOR Coasters you're not wrong. I love my EXN ht. Often fantasize about swapping it over to HS. But swapping it over to 134v HS and HT at the same time would be epic

@Blox117 Жыл бұрын

@@VECTOR_Coasters

@VECTOR_Coasters Жыл бұрын

@@jamesordwayultralightpilot true

@hellavisionsmellavision Жыл бұрын

This is the greatest review video I've seen from you, keep up the good work!!

@SlowJoe76 Жыл бұрын

Great review, as always. Best 20 mins spent!!! 👍👍👍👍👍

@TheMoboarder Жыл бұрын

Thank you! The review I’ve been waiting for! ☮️ 💰

@patrickmckowen2999 Жыл бұрын

Great vid👍 Your trail riding has improved. Cheers

@M0ToR Жыл бұрын

I'm shopping around for a new wheel and binged few of your videos, suggested by youtube, to get up to speed with the latest market offerings, great videos!

@theUnmanifest Жыл бұрын

Love your videos bro, Always happy to see the new ones. Your videos are always fun And I don't even have a euc nor care that much about what you happen to be reviewing in any specific video haha I don't live a life where I have this kind of disposable income and that doesn't seem like it will change anytime soon so I live vicariously through you guys a bit and appreciate seeing you zipping around and enjoying it so much! And I'm sure I'm not the only one so please keep killing it bro, I only wish you'd put out more content but I'm sure it takes lots of time and effort to produce such quality!!

@olahindmo7212 Жыл бұрын

Have you seen the video of the guy from Africa making his own EUC from scrap parts? That is an option if the will is there. Also a used market EUC (say an older tesla or likewise with a battery still up to the mark) could be an option. I cant think they would cost more than maybe 500$ given they were 1000$ new and they are really fun wheels still today (I still ride my Tesla v1.2 in the city as its so darn nimble and you are not allowed to ride faster than 40km/h.in the city streets either way)

@twidmer Жыл бұрын

Your reviews are pretty darn good.

@justinmcginty26 Жыл бұрын

I think going forward. EUC manufacturers cannot underestimate the importance of fire safety. Veteran, Inmotion and Kingsong standout in that regard. The aviation industry is a great demonstration of how giving safety top priority will galvanise public opinion in your favour.

@AvecPasdMains Жыл бұрын

Top quality content as usual. Love the look with the North Pads and the mosfet sticker. Beautiful wheel. I'm guessing we'll see a lot of them this September for Amped thunderdome competition.

@UStride Жыл бұрын

Awesome review Hsaign. Great wheel

@CitySurfa Жыл бұрын

Awesome video bro. Broken down very well and fun to watch.

@esk8unity Жыл бұрын

euc time????!! u know u gonna get hooked before dc! 😝

@xaviergoudreault6572 Жыл бұрын

Great review thanks!!

@jamescarrie6983 9 ай бұрын

Following you from start, I have tout ninebot z10 and one z6. This will be my new wheel for Paris and it's surbubs! Thank for your great description!!

@Daggenthal Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah dude, fresh vid!

@jamesChisena Жыл бұрын

Another great video! Been looking fwd to your review. I have this wheel pre-ordered and am looking fwd to riding it around nyc! Hopefully because I am pretty light and not an aggressive rider I will get a bit more range!

@TheMoboarder Жыл бұрын

#same preordered!

@icebreaka1969 Жыл бұрын

the best suspension EUC on the market, 11:00 the motion of the wheel and the shock is doing a perfect job. lovely.

@wheelydope Жыл бұрын

This review is next level!! I’m really interested in the Patton. Might be a good compliment to my EX30.

@BANGbucketHEAD Жыл бұрын

Extreme. Its gonna be like mini ex30

@jamesordwayultralightpilot Жыл бұрын

I still feel like I'm happier spending 3 grand on my EXN a year ago. We've gone so many places and never ran out of juice.

@DangaWaT Жыл бұрын

But u dont have suspension. Isnt that enough of a game changer for a lot of ppl?

@letssamplethis7641 Жыл бұрын

@@DangaWaT Good Question! for newer riders just starting out, suspension could be an over all game changer. For Veteran riders owning/riding the the fastest non-suspension wheel is a value that outstrips such a limited suspension wheel. If one must have suspension; For a $1000 - $1600 more one could get a V3 Commander Pro, EX30 or Master Pro with suspension and waaaaaaay better specs. These wheels are luxury items after all.

@darekmajchrzak4444 Жыл бұрын

@@letssamplethis7641 but still shitty Begode

@jamesordwayultralightpilot Жыл бұрын

@Danga I would rather have range. Suspension makes it easier to ride, and therefore, you'd kill it easier. I wish they could make an EXN pro with 4 batteries, I would never run out of range.

@letssamplethis7641 Жыл бұрын

@@jamesordwayultralightpilot am I understanding your post correctly; Suspension making riding an EUC easier to ride and results in negatively impacting the range of your wheel?

@LeandroLoan Жыл бұрын

Just awesome. Awesome wheel and awesome review!

@MikaelLevoniemi 19 күн бұрын

To learn how to use rear mounted trolley handle, just grab it with only two fingers and go. Try an "ok" thumb and index finger type grip.

@MissDaisyTheRacoon Жыл бұрын

Jason from eWheels is honestly the best!!!... Had an issue with my Master, he and Eric and Sam from AI EUC's out of NYC helped me get my Master up and running asap. Thank you Jason, Eric and Sam!!!!

@neilbank81 Жыл бұрын

Hey Hsiang. When will you get an s22 pro to test? Great review!

@ed_boogie Жыл бұрын

I went for a SS. It really was the range for me. But man I love smaller wheels it is more my style of riding. Maybe in the future lol😅. I think your videos are the only ones can watch all the way through in regards to EUCs. 👍👍

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

it is a very different wheel and I really don't think that there are a lot of overlap between the two. Time to save up for a second!

@ed_boogie Жыл бұрын

@@OWGAC lol…I was already thinking the same thing

@BigBoss-gb4cx Жыл бұрын

Not just range. It has better top speed, bigger wheel, better suspension and it stay in the 50%+ range so has "good" torque for longer even if you don't use all that battery.

@Senioritis012 Жыл бұрын

Love the sound of oil-bath suspension, you just know its doing its job to dampen those hits

@chrisogrady28 Жыл бұрын

Most impressed by the ACG jacket

@FinnBjerke Жыл бұрын

Great info as always ...

@jerrytwolanes4659 Жыл бұрын

It's weird because sometimes it looks like you are blowing through red lights. Another most excellent video!

@multigreenman1238 Жыл бұрын

He is, a proper jackass. Plus speaking and riding is super safe too.

@mazx19 Жыл бұрын

I'm hyped for the Begode Extreme

@RoninPyro77 Жыл бұрын

Its almost as if they actually listened to what the riders want when they made it. Lets just hope the build quality is improved as well.

@Cyclulk Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the test. How would you expect the range to be if I ride at like 25mph average?

@stanleyhyde8529 11 ай бұрын

Mine's already on the way. Can't wat to get my first euc

@Papalou1234 Жыл бұрын

Hsiang! 19 minutes was with delighfull contents👌🏻i really cant wait for the commander mini to de-throne the patton except for build quality off course😂

@TheEVside Жыл бұрын

Great review

@Stefonewheel 4 ай бұрын

Another great video man. Question what kind of helmet are you wearing?

@EmilioZFG Жыл бұрын

@hsiang hopefully one of your videos cover that seat install on the Sherman S, looks dope

@prawnshop4573 Жыл бұрын

Ill wait to get my hands on a refined 2nd or 3rd batch 😁 but i love it 😉

@HELLCAT7 Жыл бұрын

Dope vid as always. Question, where'd you get that hoodie and the black and white speckled jacket? Those are Tough!

@EverlastingEclipses Жыл бұрын

leaperkim always leaping another innovation

@BruceWayne15325 9 ай бұрын

With an IP55 rating and the knobby tires I'm thinking this would be a great replacement 2nd vehicle for the commuter that doesn't quite need the range of a veteran sherman s, but wants to be able to still ride on those snowy days. It's definitely on my radar for sure. I love that they focused on torque rather than top end speed. This really maximizes the performance in the speed range that sensible people actually tend to travel (30-35mph.)

@user-bu5wv6jm7z Жыл бұрын

I love it very much and thank you very much !

@mikeintampa250 Жыл бұрын

I thought the guy from The Liberty Insurance commercial was going to ride behind you at 4:30 and flip over the railing on an S18, lol. Good info on this wheel!

@Reikonaa Жыл бұрын

Nice review! Could you measure its body wideness, I mean the part between legs?

@yurysedykh562 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!!! 👍🤝

@David-no7nu Жыл бұрын

Hey Hsiang. Any idea when you will be reviewing the A2? Please make sure you get it really soaked to check their waterproofing claims.

@MikaelLevoniemi Жыл бұрын

One comment about difficulties in pivoting a rear handlebar device is not to forcibly pivot from the handle, but rather use a combination of tilting the wheel and pivoting with the handle. Begode users know the drill. It's effortless when done properly and enables very accurate control.

@RUillistEUC Жыл бұрын

Your the man!!!

@TheDownloader86 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video, plese make also the review of the T4 :).

@themadchemist2805 Жыл бұрын

He did, but only for the the v1

@privileguan9127 Жыл бұрын

Seems overall a good allrounder for everyday use, but I'd have like it to have just a tiny bit more range at that weight or a smaller form factor at the capacity. Definitely on my radar. Maybe a 2nd/3rd gen of it.

@xDemonKinx Жыл бұрын

This wheel gets me excited for solid state batteries like nothing else. All EUCs will benefit but packages like this that can remain smaller and lighter with more range and power to weight.. I can't freaking wait.

@thetastefultoastie6077 Жыл бұрын

I've heard this myth repeated by a few media influencers, but a higher battery voltage does not drain the battery faster. Power is measured in Watts, and all that matters is the Watts stored in the battery and the Watts used by the motor. A motor which consumes 10A@50V, or 5A@100V are both consuming the same amount of power (500W) and will both drain a 1000Wh battery in 2hrs. The benefit of the higher voltage, is that you can transfer the same amount of power with a lower current (Amps), and produce less waste heat. You can also then use thinner and lighter cables.

@darkstar4494 Жыл бұрын

It gives you the potential to drain the battery faster, but as you said, the same motor output at any voltage takes the same amount of current out of the batteries.

@busybody1474 Жыл бұрын

Not worth mentioning thinner cables, ridiculously heavy wheel and the higher voltages haven't done diddly-squat to make these wheels lighter

@grb1969 Жыл бұрын

This is basically true as a rule of thumb but a higher Voltage motor is slightly more efficient but this is mostly negated by the heavier motor needed for those higher speeds. 😮 In the end, speed is what drains batteries in the fastest/shortest time but its worth it if you’re not going far or want to get there quicker. More is just different but not always better value.

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

I got 20 miles @ 126v with 2200wh as compared to 100miles (5x) @ 100v on the Sherman with 3600wh (1.6x). I don't doubt that under ideal lab condition what ou said is true, but what I experience in real life does not back up your claim. The ex30 is the exception to this and I don't really understand why either

@darkstar4494 Жыл бұрын

@@busybody1474 we wouldn’t expect higher voltages to make wheels feel lighter

@prawnshop4573 11 ай бұрын

I was a bout to finally pull the trigger on this wheel then this ticket drama started here in canada so have to wait and see again....

@stradagos1 Жыл бұрын

@hsiang, awesome review. Question, what has the better torque and maneuverability, the v12, or the patton? Is the patton top heavy like the v12?

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

Patton has more torque than any wheels on the market right now, so yes even more than the v12

@michaeldavidson3349 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great review! Which spring weight is the demo wheel - 62? You mentioned it felt stiffer than your Sherman-S. If you were getting a Patton would you be looking at rhe 62 or the 66 for your personal use?

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

It's 62 which is also the same as the sherman s demo and my own, so I am pretty familiar with how it feels and some how it feels stiffer on the patton

@doctorpd1959 Жыл бұрын

If you are 140 lbs. (like myself), would you get the Patton or the T4? ( if price is no object but ride quality and the better ease of control and handling is the big consideration, especially on trails)

@martinsaunders2942 Жыл бұрын

It’s seems like a really nice wheel…however, the current design trend for the industrial look leads to an EUC with a lot of sharp edges that protrude from pretty much every corner of the wheel…I’m thinking front and back carry handles, the suspension mount at the back, kick stands etc…many of which are metal, with hard edges. My concern is that in a fall, particularly a higher speed fall, a wheel of this design and weight could become very dangerous indeed if it hit the rider or a bystander. Those hard metal protrusions would not be causing a few nasty bruises, they would be breaking bones..and very easily!

@gymkhanadog Жыл бұрын

Man, that chin bar is like wearing a skullcap; memories of protection.

@JoachimVesely Жыл бұрын

Before Extreme next! 😆 InMotion and KingSong for sure should be worrying, though Begode will likely be fine.

@WrRaThY 5 ай бұрын

it would be really awesome if you had an google sheet with all your grades across all EUCs. that would make navigating this really fast changing marked so much easier ;)

@bicboy49 Жыл бұрын

Nice uni . I was wondering how fast does it stop say if you got cut off by a car ?

@slidersgliders5516 Жыл бұрын

👍 keeping it wheel ✌️

@arevee9429 Жыл бұрын

Love my Sherman Max. It wasn't perfect, but I worked through the issues with eWheels and have been happy with them too. Small & suspension is nice. 80 pounds? Less nice. The Max is about as heavy as I'd like to go.

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

Sherman is still great and yeah the weight, keep in mind that neither Sherman S nor the Patton feels heavier when ridden, only a problem when you have to carry them around.

@peterrusso7336 Жыл бұрын

Someone better make Hsiang with squished cheeks from the full face helmet into a meme

@domokun091 9 ай бұрын

I think my only concern is the material it’s made out of, lightweight aircraft aluminum is sturdy but also soft. I’ve seen reviews saying you can easily strip the threads easily just by trying to take a few screws out when trying to swap tires 😬😬 I’m just thinking of the wear and tear it’ll have to endure with everyday use and what that might mean the longer you have it

@turbolevo8703 8 ай бұрын

Aircraft aluminium isn’t soft. I work every day with this material. The side frames on this wheel are made of magnesium I think, which is quite soft.

@santiagocastro5931 Жыл бұрын

Hsiang between ex30 Sherman s and patton what is your tier list on acceleration?

@YourAubsome Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great review. You make me laugh calling 30 miles tiny range.... I think that the majority of EUC riders never go on a ride that is more than 30 miles at a time. Also if your riding off road, 30 miles would take hours to complete because average speed on MTB trails are typically around 15 MPH and its one hell of a work out compared to riding on the street.

@esk8unity Жыл бұрын

agreed. 30 miles is PLENTY

@ThePawel36 Жыл бұрын

30 miles isn't that much, 50 would be perfect though.

@leopardrules Жыл бұрын

I'm new to the sport so I don't go on particularly long rides (yet...?), but one thing I like about range is not having to keep lugging the wheel upstairs and having more power available for longer. It's nice only having to charge the thing once a week even if I'm riding almost every day. I think it starts to make more sense if you look at range as distance between charges rather than the longest you can ride for in one go.

@milordas Жыл бұрын

the problem is - you dont want to recharge it every day or sometimes you cant, so bigger battery is always better, but that increases weight

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

Keep in mind that peak performance is only for that first 8-10miles, which is another problem, if you insist on doing 45mph that is =)

@tonybello8163 Жыл бұрын

The bar in front of the charging port kind of protects the charging board.

@fidy8dub Жыл бұрын

What are the pads on the Sherman s? Thought they were Clark’s but couldn’t see them on their site

6 ай бұрын

Hi, I'm about to buy a new unicycle, and here in Brazil, there's only the option of the Sherman S and the Patton. Which of these do you think is better? Which one has the highest torque, highest speed, highest stability, and the most suspension?

@etcetera662 Жыл бұрын

I'm getting about 35 miles of range out of my V12HS with the way I ride. How do you think that would translate to the Patton/S22?

@dagainsta6253 11 ай бұрын

Which pads did you use for the patton?

@gritred5500 Жыл бұрын

First I love your content.. thanks! So this is a great proposal for me, this wheel. But to keep comments shorter only one question: I noticed wobble? The stance you used is too far forward and I have to ask is that due to the adjustable jump pad being too far forward that (for it to be comfortable and usable) you need a slightly forward stance then you might otherwise need without the jump pad?

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

It's easier to wobble for the same reason why it's so agile, the Patton is design with most of its mass closer to its centroid so its easier to pivot, so less momentum to keep it on axis but it's well balanced enough that when it does happen the wobbles are predictable and easy to control. But again, at higher speed this becomes more of an issue but I suspect that not a lot of ppl would really ride above 40mph regularly.

@KaizenOz Жыл бұрын

😬 I seem to get wobbles on my V12ht above 40km/h, no issues on the original Sherman, T4 or s22. I pre-ordered the Patton… hoping it wobbles less 😅

@gritred5500 Жыл бұрын

I only got the wobbles on my sherman upon heavy emergency stops when I was learning.. I’ve advanced to the point I avoid emergency stops. Turning seems to be the solution. The other issue is train tracking (tremmling). I fear that the most I like to steer not be steered.

@milordas Жыл бұрын

whats the width of the Patton at the foot rest? wider or the same as KS 22S?

@joeguy07 Жыл бұрын

I’m wanting this but a longer range.

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

I kinda agree with you but, it would be heavier and more expensive, probably not a lot of people would be willing to deal with that

@CrossroadWater 10 ай бұрын

I just rode extremely vigorously for 39 miles and only at 48%.

@vlkv4237 Жыл бұрын

What power pads?)

@JrVill-xf1qn Жыл бұрын

Great review 👍 Which pads are you using on the Patton ?

@grb1969 Жыл бұрын

I believe he said that they are stock pads.

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

it's the North Pad, I think the started selling them but I don't have a link

@justinho3358 Жыл бұрын

What's the max amperage charge on the patton..?

@batmanoneuc835 Жыл бұрын

love it

@360vroomers Жыл бұрын

i hope you can compare to begode extreme!

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

I hope so too!

@rolleverything Жыл бұрын

Great one. Did you wish the pedals were higher when navigating through rocks and roots? The Patton looks like a great trail wheel, but I worry about pedal clip.

@busybody1474 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, no matter which wheel you ride you will wish you had more pedal height if you try to tackle any kind of trail.. I still do but I always expect to get thrown off and it does happen, I've caught roots and rocks and even shallow holes that stop the wheel dead but you keep going, learn how to fall 😅 of course there are plenty of paths out there which won't give you any problem

@rolleverything Жыл бұрын

@@busybody1474 I’ve been trail riding with an S18. I like the Patton but moving down to a 16” wheel worries me that pedal clip would be more frequent.

@busybody1474 Жыл бұрын

@@rolleverything You're right to be concerned, been riding KS 16x for 3 years..

@olahindmo7212 Жыл бұрын

Could always get after market pedals and adjust tilt angle. Or do it yourself with shims (i permanent mounted lomg wedges on my Tesla as it's about as low as you can get and it snagged everything offroad, worked A LOT better after)

@busybody1474 Жыл бұрын

@@rolleverything Patton specs are impressive but an 18 or 20 dia wheel will give a bit more clearance.. King song s22 had a lot of issues but it's more of a trail wheel than Patton in my opinion.

@firstlast9813 Жыл бұрын

I've only ever riden the Begode Master so idk how to feel about this wheel. I don't care about offroading much but I know some people do.

@mightyjoeyoung9741 Жыл бұрын

Hey just an idea. I'm 6'8" and 330 pounds. How does a heavyweight get a starter EUC without just buying the most expensive EUC? What are the cheap heavyweight options?

@mongi4435 Жыл бұрын

What a great little wheel. I wonder how that’s going to compare against the S 19

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

At 100v (my guess) its probably going to be less powerful but have better range, also 10mph less on the top speed so quite the difference to fast riders

@mongi4435 Жыл бұрын

@@OWGAC plus that S 19 looks like it has permanent leg pads

@hoalanho Жыл бұрын

Got the SS... thinking i should have waited for this.. 😂

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

You can't go wrong with the sherman S, I still don't regret my purchase since I still love that wheel

@Roskellan Жыл бұрын

I think this wheel is a winner, I wonder if I could get a good trade in on my 16X :-) Foot plates suck though.

@busybody1474 Жыл бұрын

Still happy with my 16x but I wouldn't expect a good trade in..

@user-lk2kk8ve6y Жыл бұрын

Beautiful presentation, nevertheless you compare it to the classic Sherman which is not part of the same category or use... at no time do you compare it with the Begode T4 v4 which is much more improved than v1 and above all much more comparable as 16 inches. It's a shame because this is a real dilemma for many people. The two best 16-inchers have a very different price and weight and it would be really interesting to compare them. Personally it's complicated to spend more than 3000 dollars for a 16 inch which is not used to travel too long but to have fun and to be very fun and handy and I think that many users will agree with Me.

@microMobilidade Жыл бұрын

Hsiang how are the new UL requirements for ebikes affecting the EUC’s?

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

I really should make a video about this, but in short; it's not because it's next to impossible to enforce, how would anyone even check?

@MissDaisyTheRacoon Жыл бұрын

I live in New York and met a couple people that know you. How can I come ride with you?... One of the guys mentioned that you're always at HQ?... is that at Tompkins Park?

@telasogameplay1872 9 ай бұрын

What the name of that wheel

@embededfabrication4482 8 ай бұрын

the edge hurts my calves, needs to be rounded or padded. instant speed, really easy to turn, I got the street tires, it corners really nice. the foot grabbers take getting used to, I fell over trying to get off it once.

@Onelastrun Жыл бұрын

I think this wheel is a very legit wheel. The extreme is gonna be a super worthy competitor. Specs alone won't say it all but I do believe which ever rides more stable at higher speeds will be the ultimate winner

@philamonhemstreet8632 Жыл бұрын

If you are looking for high speed stability, why are you getting a 16” wheel? 16” should be smaller, lighter, and more nimble. High speed stability is what a 20 or 22” wheel is for.

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

Biggest problem is that the extreme isn’t coming for another 3 month. With the warm weather coming, who’s willing to wait till fall for their new wheel??

@Onelastrun Жыл бұрын

@Philamon Hemstreet mostly due to my use case. I understand these wheels are for meant for torque for off roading. But still these machines are still capable of going super fast. Safety my friend. Safety.

@Onelastrun Жыл бұрын

@Hsiang good point. But with even that being said, will there be enough pattons to go around? If more than just the enthusiasts purchase the 1st batch, may not be. 😆 and of course same for the extreme.

@OWGAC Жыл бұрын

@@Onelastrun you can’t overcome the physics of less spinning mass, for higher speed an 18” will always be better. If begode drop the battery pack height like they did for the ex30, then maybe but I highly doubt that since that will compromise offroad