Video 18 Misconceptions commonly associated with the gapless ring.
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@topenddean7 жыл бұрын
These Tech sessions are great, thank you for taking the time to enlighten and educate your customers.
@H8er-Maker3 жыл бұрын
I had these rings installed on my CRF450r by a shop in Phoenix (Cycle Dynamics) the owner is the grandson of the founder of Total Seal. I got 54hrs on OEM top end before it started having excessive oil blow bye. The bike has 121hrs on it now & still runs like a top. I can't rightfully attribute the longevity difference solely on the rings since new piston, valves, seats & head machining were also done but they do work & I have no problem using them again.
@JohnAnderson42425 жыл бұрын
I have used gapless in my track day motor, they work great. They were easy to understand and install. Uh only the 2nd / middle ring - price was a factor, but followed this idea from a more experienced engine builder.
@2x4barrels404 жыл бұрын
They are always my first choose. HAVE USED THESE RINGS SINCE THE EARLY 70's never a failure .
@ViewThis.4 жыл бұрын
How well do they work in Supercharged or Turbo applications ?
@ViewThis.4 жыл бұрын
@@bigboreracing356 I will keep my eyes peeled for that and will be looking forward to it. Thank You.
@bradleycampbell59336 жыл бұрын
excellent! thank you
@daviddroescher10 ай бұрын
2nd ring typically 4.5/" . Go big on top for the extra heat .007ish? Working with 5 9 cummins for salt flat racing.
@EvenStarLoveAnanda6 жыл бұрын
Do you guys make gap-less rings for the 6.5 Turbo Diesel? Where do I get it?
@ronnieboucherthecrystalcraftsm3 жыл бұрын
good for subaru turbo`s - power to the crank - pass it on !
@Levisnteeshirt15 жыл бұрын
Would try claimer gapless rings do well in a street motor
@sexyfacenation3 жыл бұрын
Claimer
@EvenStarLoveAnanda6 жыл бұрын
Why don't you just make it a single piece ring with a L shaped lip on both ends to eliminate the gap.
@danspeed70394 жыл бұрын
Because you wouldnt b able to install it into the ringland 😂
@shelbyavant50813 жыл бұрын
Dude I'm dead! 🤣
@Schlipperschlopper2 жыл бұрын
Im from Germany, I have a 1970 Corvette LT1 w. stock 350 SB engine now 4.030 overdrilled and honed, using new TRW 1970s OEM style forged pistons on pink forged GM rods...I found one of your older gapless street performance kits that uses the second gapless ring system. This older Total Seal Ring kit was made 1995. Would you still suggest using it (I have it here on my desk) or better the newer Kits with gapless top ring?
@jarmominkkinen24503 жыл бұрын
Test thes rings 1992 with Nos System 250 hk.No broblem SCB 356 happy Engine..in the 10 sek Street car....
@NOVAENGINS9252 Жыл бұрын
QUESTION ,THERE NEEDS TO BE BLOW BY IN THE CYLINDER OTHERWISE YOU RUN INTO RING CHATTER NOT SO ? SECONDLY YOU ALSO MAKE LOWER TENTION RINGS ,IS THAT NOT THE SAME THING AS A WORN-OUT RING I MEAN WORN-OUT RINGS ALSO LOSE TENTION
@chippyjohn12 жыл бұрын
Why not just a simple rebated overlapping ring. Having two rings seems complex.
@EricErnst3 жыл бұрын
I am very interested in gapless rings. I heard that the rings themselves wear much faster in a daily driver application. Is that true? If they do wear faster, how much are we talking? I'm currently running a centrifugal supercharged 355 sbc at 9lbs. Roller cam/aftermarket heads about 650hp. Would you suggest a gapless top or a gapless second ring? Is running both overkill and unnecessary? Thanks for any info you can provide. I've loved the idea forever but I have no personal experience with gapless rings.
@mitchellreece37113 жыл бұрын
I have all the same questions except with a street application 2.5L 6cylinder turbo engine. 24psi and roughly 470hp
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
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@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
Great product. Worth every penny. 👍👍😎😎
@4speed3pedals2 жыл бұрын
Gapless rings are made of gold, not because of metallurgy but because of profits.
@OwenStaton13 жыл бұрын
This isn't magic linking rings I was hoping for 😑
@michaelmulto80134 жыл бұрын
Gapless piston ring will cause catastrophic damage to the ring itself together with pistons and cylinder walls its very impossible to make it last long specially with diesel engines
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
What ??
@reedsilvesan21972 жыл бұрын
The only ring I will run. It will also increase fuel efficiency by 2 to 5 %. Why? If you have say 4% blowby, (very realistic #) that means that 4% of your fuel is being wasted. 4% is Alot of fuel over the lifetime of a street engine.
@patrickbradford62236 жыл бұрын
Negative to total seal gapless rings? Cost... lol.
@hotrodray68024 жыл бұрын
Spend thousands on an engine and then put cheapo rings in it??
@patrickbradford62234 жыл бұрын
@@hotrodray6802 You really commented on a comment I made 2 years ago? You are showing your ignorance and inexperience... total seal rings aren't ideal for all engine builds... ie boosted / nos applications... But again, you are 2 years late to the conversation.
@EvenStarLoveAnanda6 жыл бұрын
I know, people talk so much bullshit about engines and cars it is scary sometimes. And all of it is just superstition. No bases in science or reality. Who comes up with that shit???
@danspeed70394 жыл бұрын
You cant run gapless rings in a 4stroke combustion engine
@michaelmulto80134 жыл бұрын
I agree, I've been a mechanic for 16 years, you cannot do that because even a too little gap for a piston size specially in diesel engines with cast iron sleeve will suffer a catastrophic damage
@H8er-Maker3 жыл бұрын
That's incorrect, I had this very same Total Seal ring installed on my CRF450. The shop (Cycle Dynamics) owner is the grandson of the inventer. I got about 54hrs on OEM top end & the bike now has 121hrs with gapless ring & runs like a clock. I had the top end B&B with new valves & custom cut copper valve seats so I can't right fully attribute the longevity difference solely on the rings. But without a doubt they work in 4T engines.
@davidellis2793 жыл бұрын
Let’s stop kidding ourselves hear,their is No Such thing as a Gapless Piston Ring,to be Gapless it would have to be a Solid Ring which if it was you would Not be able to get it over the Piston and into the ring groove. Having no ring Gap wouldn’t work anyway because the engine would seize up when it got to operating temperature,each of these ring Must have a gap,one to get them over the piston and two to allow for expansion and lubrication because without oil getting to the Pistons and Rings the engine would be knackered in no time. When fitting ordinary Pistons and Rings you all supposed to turn the rings around the pistons so that the gaps Don’t lineup thus preventing blow by or compression loss. I’ve been building engines for over 50 years and I wouldn’t think using this type of ring idea would do anything for longevity of a cylinder bore due to poor lubrication at the top of the cylinder. I honestly think this is a Snake Oil type of operation don’t fall for it. A firm called Cord Piston Rings did a similar thing years ago to stop oil consumption in a worn engine and they only worked for a short while and then the engine had to be stripped and rebored and new Oversized Pistons fitted.
@lop88283 жыл бұрын
If you are a 50yr. Builder you wouldn't worry about placement of rings 180° apart since the crosshatch will keep them rotating. Blow by is induced by not sealing, too much play piston to wall, top end.
@davidellis2793 жыл бұрын
@@lop8828 You’re talkings out of your Arse,crosshatching is only done to help the rings bed in properly it doesn’t make the rings spin in there groves Total Bollocks. If there were No Ring Gaps the rings wouldn’t spin anyway and there would NO lubrication to the top of the cylinder causing uneven wear of the Bore,think about it.
@lykinsmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
@@davidellis279 Piston rings spin at an average of 12 rpm. Fact.
@davidellis2792 жыл бұрын
@@lykinsmotorsports Not when they get gummed up with carbon they don’t, they just stick in one place and wear the bore out,I’ve look at these rings and they’ve NOT Gapless,it would be impossible to get them in the ring groves if they were,spacing the rings out on the piston correctly would have the same affect as these so called Gapless rings. Someone else had the idea of cutting an overlapping L-shape in the rings which would probably work as well as these,if there was any merit in using these Gapless rings I think the big Piston manufacturers would have done it by now,snake oil comes to mind here but if people want to use them it’s their choice but I wouldn’t and I’ve built a lot of engines over the 55years I’ve been doing it.
@lykinsmotorsports2 жыл бұрын
You may have been building for 55 years but it may be time to teach an old dog new tricks. They absolutely will spin because of the crosshatch. If they’re carboned up then you’re not doing a good tubing job. It’s common knowledge they spin, you need to read up a little more.