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Tips & Tricks for Oil Washes - HC 447

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Vince Venturella

Vince Venturella

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In this Hobby Cheating Tutorial, I take you through multiple ways to use Oil washes (both how to make them and tips for how to get them right for different effects). Hope you enjoy!
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0:00 Intro
1:13 Basics
4:08 Applying the Wash
7:15 Streaking
10:10 Rust Tones
14:18 Outro

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@NightfallTH
@NightfallTH 3 ай бұрын
03:58 oh to the contrary - my Warhammer Minis do in fact owe me money. A LOT.
@cabe_bedlam
@cabe_bedlam 3 ай бұрын
"A Venturella always paints his debts."
@andreastsr11
@andreastsr11 Ай бұрын
lol, i came to the comments to say this exact thing!!
@thymekuhn8387
@thymekuhn8387 3 ай бұрын
Vincey V is the best dude ever. Thanks for showing us the way, straight to the point, no fluff.
@malcolmthompson9848
@malcolmthompson9848 3 ай бұрын
I've used oils to do horses. For bays and chestnuts paint an acrylic undercoat of tan. Then brush on a very thick wash (much thicker than you have used here) of burnt umber or Van dyke brown and let stand for an hour or so. Then wipe with foam. Depending on the breed I might apply black or white to the lower legs. For White and gray horses undercoat in gray white and apply oil wash using Payne's Gray. This technique will also let you create dappled grays where you stipple on gray and white washes on hind quarters and shoulders. Oil washes on horses can look rather glossy which can reproduce the effect of sweaty hair. I've had less success doing black horses with this method.
@visualbasicimp
@visualbasicimp 3 ай бұрын
Dude this sounds awesome I need some pics!!
@andrewamann2821
@andrewamann2821 3 ай бұрын
You mentioned having trouble using this technique to get good looking black horses... I'm curious to know what that process was, specifically, to maybe see what can be done to accomplish it. I've got a few older kits with horses that I'm looking to paint, and black could look pretty baller there...
@JuuzouXIII
@JuuzouXIII 3 ай бұрын
I've watched alot of channels and tutorials but it's got to be said; your videos are calming, easy to follow and i feel that i really absorb the information and techniques you put across easiest! Thankyou
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@JRMcDowell
@JRMcDowell 3 ай бұрын
James Wappel would be proud. Great tutorial and explanation.
@mf2943
@mf2943 3 ай бұрын
Oil washes have been the single thing that transformed my painting the most. Its just a great tool to have
@glennguimond1323
@glennguimond1323 3 ай бұрын
“It doesn’t owe you any money” LOL
@estellardog5407
@estellardog5407 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha my initial reaction too! XD
@lukaslauermann1984
@lukaslauermann1984 3 ай бұрын
I just got into mini painting after getting a used 3D printer to toy around with out of interest a few weeks ago. You sir hands down deliver the most valuable educational videos imo. not only are they incredibly detailed, you also never fail to provide the reason for why you are doing something a certain way, not only showing how to do it! thank you so much for your effort!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Glad I could help :)
@fonkyjoe
@fonkyjoe 3 ай бұрын
I just tried oil washes for the first time last week. Easy and great results! No fighting tide marks/coffee stains.
@Rollskblau
@Rollskblau 3 ай бұрын
Oils made the painting process more relaxing, and now I enjoy myself more after incorporating them. So many fun and intresting usages such as wet on wet overbrush can work easy.
@FelixZwirn
@FelixZwirn 3 ай бұрын
I tried oil paints last week. I had three problems. And you adressed all three of them. Thank you very much.
@markgnepper5636
@markgnepper5636 3 ай бұрын
I love all Vince Ventrilla videos 👏👍🤙
@billdefranza4927
@billdefranza4927 3 ай бұрын
And professor DM!
@markgnepper5636
@markgnepper5636 3 ай бұрын
Venturella
@user-bf7gv9dv2f
@user-bf7gv9dv2f 3 ай бұрын
Great video! One little tip i got was that when you mix your wash, it will go faster to achieve a smooth blend if you mix the paint with a small part of the thinner first. That helps break up the lumps. Then you add more thinner to get the consistency you want. Its like making pancake batter. If you mix the flour with all the liquid right away there will be lumps. If you add part of the liquid and mix, you will get a smooth blend much quicker 👍
@Delta66-jz1vl
@Delta66-jz1vl Ай бұрын
Thanks for another good video. Although you don't "Need" to varnish before applying oil washes, you can use varnish to your advantage, depending on what type of effect you want. A gloss varnish coat will help the oil wash to flow and is great is you just want panels lining for example. In contrast a coat of matte varnish will make the surface rougher, as a result the oil wash will "stick" more to the surface and this is good if you want to stain larger areas. Moreover, as you mention, a varnish coat gives some protection to your paint layers if you intend to rub the oil wash more agressively. In practice I have found that even using a gentle brush dipped in white spirit to clean up the wash can easily damage you previous acrylic layers.
@philgee486
@philgee486 3 ай бұрын
Simple techniques, shown clearly and carefully explained, there's a lot more you can do with oils but if you only used them this way then you'd create marvellous effects that the eye loves
@richardhutchinson4740
@richardhutchinson4740 3 ай бұрын
I've started using oils over acrylic base layers to paint flowing cloaks. Super long working time and insane blending ability means that with a basic blue and a white I can just get amazing results.
@soulcatcher521
@soulcatcher521 3 ай бұрын
Minor note, curing isn't a reaction with light, it's oxidation, so it's a chemical reaction, not evaporation.
@criticalcommenter
@criticalcommenter 3 ай бұрын
Not for the thinners. Often they burn off faster in the heat
@alh.21
@alh.21 3 ай бұрын
@@criticalcommenterheat tends to accelerate chemical reactions
@soulcatcher521
@soulcatcher521 3 ай бұрын
@@criticalcommenter The thinners can and do evaporate. Just in the video, Vince was looking for the right term on this and said it was a reaction with light, and it's mostly a reaction with oxygen. That being said, absolutely the hydrocarbon volatiles do evaporate
@zamo9660
@zamo9660 3 ай бұрын
To speed up drying time, just add to your wash Cobalt drier (see product for proportions). I wonder if Vince uses it and his thoughts about that stuff. It works fine for me, tho you have to keep in mind oils always take long time time to FULLY cure. There's also oil brands (think Abteilung) formulated for model painting which also slightly cut the curing time over cheaper options. WinTon has always been my go to brand tbh but Abteilung are good too.
@Jeremy-kl3ch
@Jeremy-kl3ch 2 ай бұрын
Vince, you're the man! A true Bob Ross of miniature painting.
@siadream6728
@siadream6728 3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir, I didn’t know I can use oil over acrylic, more videos like these please.🙏🏼
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Will do!
@fatpigeon8297
@fatpigeon8297 3 ай бұрын
You gave me the courage to try it out with that first video you released. Once you get the hang of it, you will never go back to regular washes. Thank you Vince!
@waterflex6289
@waterflex6289 3 ай бұрын
Thank you vince v. I had been looking forward to start with oils
@davidrickey8841
@davidrickey8841 3 ай бұрын
I had previously done a little bit of panel lining with oil paints and it was amazing. I had a rocky base on a model last night and I tried going over the whole base with brown to get dirt between the rocks. It wiped off amazingly but left "dirt" between the rocks and made them nice and dirty without making them look like brown rocks. This hobby never ceases to find new ways to amaze me.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Nice work!
@actinium2754
@actinium2754 3 ай бұрын
This is awesome because it just expands on a video that I still use to this day for all my knights.
@aaron.h.paints
@aaron.h.paints 3 ай бұрын
For me, the biggest barrier to oils is disposal. In my area (not sure how much it varies across states) acrylics can go in the trash, while oils/mineral spirits have to go to hazmat disposal which is a pain and sometimes has disposal fees. Great video for those who are so inclined though.
@thedicelab
@thedicelab 2 ай бұрын
Oil paints are so much fun to experiment with. I appreciate your hobby videos, great for inspiration as I work on my various projects.
@alexx86hater
@alexx86hater 3 ай бұрын
There is also "oil dot filter" technique used by scale modelers and applicable to big miniatures. It is used to break the uniform look of plain areas. Basically you place a whole bunch the dots of different colors oil paint or wash on the model and then depending using dabbing or streaking movements of the brush you blend them in across the whole model. This gives a model more worn look and makes it look quite a bit interesting.
@Arballisk
@Arballisk 3 ай бұрын
I finally did an oil wash for the first time, on my Ironclad Drake just a few days ago. Your vid gave me the push needed and i really enjoyed the process, and it looks good too
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Glad I could help
@Wijkert
@Wijkert 3 ай бұрын
I was there for HC 89 and I am here for HC 447 as well. Happy to see that you're still going strong 💪 Vince!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@lexi_9995
@lexi_9995 3 ай бұрын
Great for grimdark effects on minis, buildings and terrain. Regards Lexi
@NapGod
@NapGod 3 ай бұрын
literally just got an adeptus titanicus starter box and some oil paint supplies and planned to figure it out over this weekend. fortuna favet! the timing could not be more perfect, thank you vince!
@Blackchance
@Blackchance 3 ай бұрын
One of these weeks, I'd love to see you do a product review on the Villainy Ink line (of enamels). I got mine recently and I've been excited about the different ways I can play with it, but it'd be awesome to see what you think!
@alexgonzalez3962
@alexgonzalez3962 3 ай бұрын
I would love to see your approach to using these techniques when it comes to 'speed painting' an army. I'm currently experimenting with oil washes on my Kruleboyz!
@Wijkert
@Wijkert 3 ай бұрын
10:10 I have multiple pure PR101 oil/acrylic paints, but this Winton one remains my favorite hue wise. Very full on orange rust brown.
@archidiacretiberius2937
@archidiacretiberius2937 3 ай бұрын
thanks Mister, it is always a joy to watch your videos :)
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@benweinberg3819
@benweinberg3819 3 ай бұрын
I was heavily referring to your past oil guides as i finished my SmashBash submission this week, glad I'll have a new one to reference for next time!
@RadiantOrrery
@RadiantOrrery 3 ай бұрын
This is great timing! Im literally JUST getting into oil washes, got the paints, the spirit, and some varnish. Can't wait to begin experimenting!
@bluething3D
@bluething3D 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this information! I will be applying it soon.
@Fortunes.Fool.
@Fortunes.Fool. 3 ай бұрын
Just got a small tube of brown and black to experiment with and this video drops!
@Life_in_m1n1
@Life_in_m1n1 3 ай бұрын
Go vince…Hobbycheating best show on youtube🤙🏻
@Witchcraft467
@Witchcraft467 3 ай бұрын
"It doesn't owe you any money" made me laugh out loud :) Thank you!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@RottenJeeves
@RottenJeeves 3 ай бұрын
Inspiring as always Vince.
@streamwell6135
@streamwell6135 2 ай бұрын
great and simple..amazing..thank you! :)
@ItchaBoi
@ItchaBoi 3 ай бұрын
Love the oil videos. I'm just starting out with them, and compared to acrylics, there aren't many videos about the process out there. I don't enjoy 2hr videos packed with non sequiturs, so this is perfect 🤘
@michaelf.7339
@michaelf.7339 3 ай бұрын
Great video vince as always. I need some advice here: I recently started a custom Mark 2 Horus Heresy White Scars army and I applied all the base colors and nice transitions (white armour, red shoulderpads) with an airbrush. Then, I applied decals with microset and microsol, sealed with varnish through airbrush, all nice and good. Next step is to get all the little recesses, bolts, etc. shaded so oil wash time, the plan after that is easy going again. I tried a dark grey and different black and brown mixes from Winsor & Newton, Abteilung 502 and already finished ones from AK such as starship wash. No matter how thin or thick I mix it and no matter if I apply no varnish, matte varnish or gloss varnish before the oilwash, it ALWAYS stains the white too much even after really removing all of it on the surfaces as good as I can (no matter if I let it dry first or not, also tried all kinds of mineral spirits and solvents) with q-tips and brushes. I just can't make it work to just get the recesses nice and dark and the surface as close to the original cold white as I can. I also tried just pinwash but it was basically the same result. I applied the same process with a 30k Death Guard army with awesome results so I am very surprised that cold white in contrast to bone color causes such an issue. Any ideas?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
So cold whites like that use a large titanium pigment likely, so they are very matte and can trap pigment from the wash really easy, making it difficult to get completely clean. In effect, they are always going to be stained to some degree. You can minimize it some with a heavy gloss varnish, but there is always going to be some residual staining.
@michaelf.7339
@michaelf.7339 3 ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Thank you Vince, I will give it one more try with a bit more gloss varnish before! Since decals are already on and sealed and preassembly with red is already glued on that's gonna be it I guess 😀
@nothinboutnuthin
@nothinboutnuthin 3 ай бұрын
Thanks again for another wonderful video. You delivered one of the best oil tutorial yet. Really eased some fears I had to try them. Thanks again !
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kevinhayes517
@kevinhayes517 3 ай бұрын
Excellent tutorial on oil washes…haven’t use oil in quite while but you’ve give me some great ideas to work with. Thanks!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@isisnmagic1812
@isisnmagic1812 3 ай бұрын
Great video and awesome tips, slowly getting the courage up to use oil wash Instead of the ready made washes. Thanks for posting.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
You can do it!
@WatchItPaintIt
@WatchItPaintIt 3 ай бұрын
"It doesn't owe you any money" hahaha :D great vid as always Vince - Mike
@eitremn
@eitremn 3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. Your videos are the best!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@kennethday6529
@kennethday6529 2 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a video about White Oil washes for plasma coils.
@waldgir
@waldgir 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! I will definitely try some oil paints on my iron warriors.
@AP-hv9ll
@AP-hv9ll 3 ай бұрын
I don’t know about white spirits interacting with acrylics, but I found out turpentine sure does! Make sure your brushes are completely dry after a turpentine cleaning.
@fateweaver9844
@fateweaver9844 3 ай бұрын
Yeah. Turpentine removes paint and varnish. Not good for an oil wash
@alistairmacrae4993
@alistairmacrae4993 2 ай бұрын
I’m about to attempt my first oil wash on my grey knights. I’m hoping that a blue wash will help kind of tint it and settle in the recesses but I can hopefully take it off on large flat sections so it keeps its shinyness
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 ай бұрын
Yep, that should work.
@FrozenThrog
@FrozenThrog 3 ай бұрын
How much you thin it depends on your way of working with them. I like to panel line things with them, so I want the wash thin enough to do the capillary action better, but still strong enough to show.
@dirty20crafts
@dirty20crafts Ай бұрын
Since there are so many opinions out there, I'd really like to get your take on any safety precautions of using odorless mineral spirits (well ventilated room, mask, gloves) and disposing of the materials (paper towels, q-tips) that come in contact with the spirits.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Good respirator, good venthilation, for the waste, you should have very little with miniature projects, so the trash is fine.
@spilledpaintpot
@spilledpaintpot 3 ай бұрын
Be Sir-Mix-A-Lot? That's a tall task. "I like thick paints and I cannot like, you other painters can't deny, when a tube of paint with that artist grade get squeezed I get sprung..."
@alaingay
@alaingay 3 ай бұрын
Love it when you explain to wipe down and on the video you are going up :D you made my day :)
@alaingay
@alaingay 3 ай бұрын
AK has a nice set of brushes for weathering
@Moggy1k
@Moggy1k 3 ай бұрын
Great as ever cheers Vince.
@RadioFreeHammerhal
@RadioFreeHammerhal 3 ай бұрын
I like big blends and I cannot lie
@-Snapcast-
@-Snapcast- 3 ай бұрын
The video I needed, my experience with oils is them flowing out of recess to a lower point in the model - I'm now thinking this may be due to diluting the oil too much.
@fatesrequiem
@fatesrequiem 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, with oils you can even make what some call a “gunk wash” where you’re just slathering oil paint all over the model and then just use a brush dampened with mineral spirits to remove most of it. It blends beautifully as well.
@johnsmith3085
@johnsmith3085 3 ай бұрын
I always hated the lengthy drying/curing time. I’m talking DAYS for a piece of terrain. However, you can pick up Liquin Impasto (gloss finish) or Oleo impasto to mix with the oils and cut down on their drying time and influence their finish.
@JimCrimmins
@JimCrimmins 3 ай бұрын
Is a roe-bit the distant cousin of a deckle? Just curious ;)... Love the channel.
@clarketron3000
@clarketron3000 3 ай бұрын
If I want to paint acrylics over the oil, how long do I need to wait? should I use a crap brush or safe to use sables?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
I give it at least a day or two, then you're good to go. The wash will cure usually faster than that, but that is to be as safe as possible.
@wasmic5z
@wasmic5z 3 ай бұрын
Correction: when oil paints cure, they DO react with the oxygen in the air. Without oxygen, they won't cure at all! However, the reaction is initiated by light (ultraviolet light in particular), and as you said, it is much slower than the evaporation of the white spirits.
@RichardReads
@RichardReads 3 ай бұрын
Great video Vince, thanks!
@gamelover260
@gamelover260 3 ай бұрын
One new workfllw I hsve for army painting is 1zenithal 2 contrast 3 airbrush highlights Oils wash Makes amazing models
@samueltyler889
@samueltyler889 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great insight. Oil washes are fantastic. They do some amazing things to terrain too. I've got two questions from the boring side of the hobby. Do you have any tips on cleaning brushes after using an oil wash and what do you do with the used mineral spirits when you are done?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
I use so little, there isn't usually much left, but I just soak it up with a paper towel and throw it away.
@BokoaChocobo
@BokoaChocobo 3 ай бұрын
What care do you need to have to paint with oils? I know I have to have good ventilation, but for example how long does the fume stay in the air and such? I have a little kid and I worry it might be bad for her if the thing stays up on the air for a very long time
@nickmayne1901
@nickmayne1901 3 ай бұрын
Great video Vince loved it, just one question mate, advantages or disadvantages of enamel washes & do you use them, thanks
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
That's likely a whole video in itself, but the key is you can mix to taste and have more versatility with oils.
@oibird4217
@oibird4217 23 күн бұрын
Hello, I have a few questions. Don't know if it is too expansive to cover in a comment. I've been trying a little bit of oil washing, oil paint and AK like stuff, and I don't feel very confident about safely disposing of leftover wash and oil paint spills, cleanup and similar. I've watched some videos and googled, but it mostly covers it from the perspective of using canvas painting large amounts of oils and solvents etc. So, the question is: what is a safe method to clean up after an oil wash session? What would you recommend or practice? Thank you very much for all the wonderful HC vids, they help a lot!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 23 күн бұрын
You generally have so little, I wipe it up with a paper towel and then throw it away, you always want to use as little as possible so there isn’t much left over.
@jaceks1962
@jaceks1962 3 ай бұрын
Great as always
@danielgroenewald3006
@danielgroenewald3006 3 ай бұрын
Perfect timing thanks
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Perfect!
@danielchalmers9815
@danielchalmers9815 3 ай бұрын
I've been having issues pinwashing armour panels. I'll drop it in watch it fill in all the lines, very satisfying. I'll go away and come back and the lines are all broken up. What was once a solid filled panelline is now looking like a squashed dalmatian with the white base coat showing through
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
The oil wash is too thin and breaking up.
@420alphaomega
@420alphaomega 3 ай бұрын
Hey vince how would u show gold weathering on big vehicles? Maybe some verdigris to make it contrast?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Yep, you can also stipple dark brown or black as well lightly to create some pitting.
@user-fq3dv3br6v
@user-fq3dv3br6v 3 ай бұрын
I really like to paint things like skin or NMM by oil paints. It takes time to learn how to mix your own colors but it definitely worth it. Even if curing time sometimes is insanely long.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
I totally agree!
@howardcoates6985
@howardcoates6985 3 ай бұрын
Thumbs up! I just dont paint enough mechs, space marines or armored vehicles to take advantage of the oils I have. hmmm.. It occurs to me that you didnt mention panel lining with oils tho...
@fateweaver9844
@fateweaver9844 3 ай бұрын
Oil washes are great for any surface you would use acrylic washes: fur, hair, flesh, panel lines (Tau and Aeldari are great for panel lining)
@Mikey__R
@Mikey__R 3 ай бұрын
When I started out with oil washes, and their close friends the enamels, I tried the flood-then-remove technique, I never really got on with it. I much prefer the targeted pin wash technique. It probably takes just as long, but being mostly additive rather than subtractive seems to suit me better. I still enjoy that original knight video. If I remember right, that was your Sister Repentant on her giant rowbit that won a Golden Demon?
@HuntingHeresy
@HuntingHeresy 3 ай бұрын
Have you tried mixing in some rust effects pigment to make the oil a bit gritty for corrosion, or would you recommend building that texture up on the model before the oil wash stage?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Yep, you absolutely can. :)
@kaikropp3254
@kaikropp3254 3 ай бұрын
Great and helpful video! Will we get an oil paint Video list? You have so many videos so going through them and group them thematically would be super helpful... but also a lot of videos to go through 😅
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Great idea!
@jimdcushman
@jimdcushman 3 ай бұрын
First, THANK YOU! Does this work for smaller models as a shadow liner? I've tried with Newsh but I'm having issues getting it to stay put in the cracks and crevices through the sponge reduction step without it setting too long and staining the surface areas.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@Nosferatuklown
@Nosferatuklown 3 ай бұрын
I know we use oils for washing and staining effects in lieu of products like enamels paints and washes but I'm not sure what the difference is between an enamel and oil paint is
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
The medium is the short answer, both are cleaned/thinned through white spirits, both are slow drying, but have slightly different finishes.
@josephcopeland8746
@josephcopeland8746 2 ай бұрын
Great video just stumbled upon it today. After watching the older one that you have done. In the older video you mention how you use washes to create effects on skin would you ever do an oil wash to achieve effects for skin?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 ай бұрын
Yep, though it's slightly different, I have a few videos in the playlist specifically on painting skin with oils, so check those out and you'll see the details. :)
@rustedbeetle
@rustedbeetle 3 ай бұрын
You used Gamblin oil paints in the video. Does oil paint quality make as much difference in oil paints as they do in acrylic paints? Should I pick up a couple of tubes of artist grade paint or a more introductory grade to start with? Or if I buy a few more, for what quality should I be looking?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
I used Winton (from Winsor and Newton), these are the student stuff, artist grade can make it easier to wash and certainly can be more valuable if you're doing actual painting with oils. Abtelung also makes things good for washes.
@TheMichaellathrop
@TheMichaellathrop 3 ай бұрын
So with mixing oil washes is it any easier to mix by starting with much less thinner working to incorporate everything and then adding more thinner and stirring a few more times? For example if you had started with only one to two pipits of thinner for your first wash of the video. I'm also curious if there are any good techniques for using something like a white spirit based enamel paint as the wetting agent for your brush when your streaking oils.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
So as to the first, yes, if you're starting, you are right that is the way to build it up slowly. I haven't tried the enamel wetting agent, interesting idea
@marshtiger1
@marshtiger1 3 ай бұрын
Hey Vince love the video, very informative. The only thing I would ask about is clean up brushes and metal mixing cups since it is probably not good to wash with water. So if you are using spirits to clean brushes and mixing cups, what do you do with the dirty or used spirits to dispose of them properly?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
I just wipe them out and put them away. With brushes, normal brush soap or alcohol, since you are using synthetics.
@marshtiger1
@marshtiger1 3 ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella thank you
@skynes
@skynes 3 ай бұрын
When I paint my Night Lords, I bring my blue a bit lighter than I want. When I oil wash with Pjthalo blue mixed with black, I go all over. Even after wiping it away, the blue underneath has been darkened down and is more 'blue' than before. It was a happy accident on a test figure when figuring out a scheme I liked, but I've kept doing it because filtering with oils like that is so straightforward.
@fateweaver9844
@fateweaver9844 3 ай бұрын
I love Payne's Grey for filtering blue. It's a dark blue-grey.
@adammotter
@adammotter 2 ай бұрын
In general is there a difference between the Winsor & Newton Winton, Abtelung 502, or Daler Rowney Georgian? I see all 3 come up but not sure what is artist/studio grade, or are they all comparable and just go with the most cost effective? Lastly, any tips how to achieve a "one and done"/tabletop ready grime wash on black power armor? Edit: In my head, was thinking Vallejo model color exhaust manifold with a black wash for a warmer dark metal. That's just in theory land at least... Thanks!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 2 ай бұрын
Most of it is pretty much the same (especially for this purpose). There is artist grade, level 3 stuff, that can be better if you are directly painting with oils.
@U.S.Male1776
@U.S.Male1776 3 ай бұрын
I've been reluctant to try oil washes because of the clean-up. I haven’t found a good tutorial about that yet. What's the proper/safe/ environmentally responsible way to clean up your spirits, washes, and used sponges?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
I use so little, there isn't usually much left, but I just soak it up with a paper towel and throw it away.
@jamiegee7418
@jamiegee7418 3 ай бұрын
How would you recommend using oil washes for more targeted panel lining? I'm trying to use them in place of pre-made panel liners but I find the paint seems to seperate away from the recesses as it dries, leaving nasty tide marks that ruin the effect? I'm using it fairly thin. Thanks
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
The key is you want to work a little thicker, or use a slightly higher grade artist oil, that should stop the separation issue.
@chrish1645
@chrish1645 3 ай бұрын
How long do you find it takes before the wash has cured enough to paint over again with acrylics. I ask because I tried some of Marcos techniques from NJM and found that days later my figures still seemed completely uncured. It was actually bad enough that I tried adding in some drying agents and also made a little heater box to try and speed the drying process (be very careful with this, I have a Stormstrike chariot crew that is slightly deformed).
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
For a thin wash, 24-48 hours is good, if you're using actual oil paints, could be longer. Leaving it outside on a sunny day can also speed it up.
@TheDondanek
@TheDondanek 9 күн бұрын
Dear Vince, thank you for this vieo! Very informative, I have used this technique on my elves for T:OW with great success! I wonder, should I varnish the metallics after the oil wash, or is it fine just keep it as it is? Its gaming models, so there will be some minor touching to the models (although they are magnetized and in movement trays). Would the oils go off? Thanks for your amazing work and support to the community!
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 8 күн бұрын
I don't ever varnish metals, once they have fully sured, you shouldn't have an issue.
@TheDondanek
@TheDondanek 8 күн бұрын
@@VinceVenturella thanks Vince!
@capedbeardy
@capedbeardy 3 ай бұрын
Hey Vince! LOVE your videos as they really have made getting into this hobby more accessible. This really makes me want to jump into oil washes. Quick Q: if doing the simple wash with these, should this be done after the miniature is pretty much complete (base, layers, highlights) AND/OR can it be done after base coats and before layering/highlights? Just trying to better understand what step would yield the best results.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Generally, after base coats, then let is cure and back to acryllics for highlights and such.
@cyanidebass6519
@cyanidebass6519 3 ай бұрын
What about water mixable oils with compatible thinner (usually a monopropylglycol/water solution), does the mix give us a comparable result as regular oil with solvent ?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Haven't really messed with water soluble oils yet, its on the list for the future.
@bartek_ewertowski
@bartek_ewertowski 2 ай бұрын
05:14 you mention that oil points cure with "light". I'm not a chemist (I dropped my chemistry major for physics) but isn't the oil medium just oxidizing? So air plays a pretty critical role in this. I don't see what role light has to play in this process.
@TheGeppywizard
@TheGeppywizard 3 ай бұрын
I love oil washes. Tried Monument Hobbies Newsh recently. It's a pretty good acrylic approximation, but I actually lifted paint when I was wiping it off, particularly on certain edges. Maybe varnishing first in that case might be a good idea since it's acrylic medium?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Varnishing can stop that, less liquid can stop that, softer brushes or lighter touch can help.
@yasinsen6301
@yasinsen6301 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the video. I have ordered a couple winsor newton's after watching it. But I do not have access to white spirit or mineral spirit on where I live. Are there any alternatives? I use vallejo acrylics and I don't want to varnish before washes.
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
Not really, you should be able to find white spirits somewhere, an art store or similar, it’s fairly common. But you will need it for this .
@yasinsen6301
@yasinsen6301 Ай бұрын
@@VinceVenturella Does the brand matter? I found Talens white spirit on the internet, but also it says terpentine on the front. Is there a difference? Your Gamsol says mineral spirit on the front, do I really need mineral spirit over white spirit?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella Ай бұрын
@@yasinsen6301 Talen's White Spirits is white spirits for oil paint, that will work.
@f.d.6667
@f.d.6667 3 ай бұрын
Artists' oil paints on the basis of natural and synthetic fatty oils *cure through oxidization and polymerization - which totally depends on the absorption of oxygen from air.* UV light only plays a role in making a precursor substance from linseed oil, typically used in traditional painting mediums (siccative de haarlem). Accelerator substances for oil paints are therefore catalysts speeding up the oxidation process, usually cerium or manganese based (in the past, lead-based). Painting mediums of the "quick-drying" type (also) contain a resin solution where a solvent evaporates, leaving behind a resin "matrix" (dammar or a synthetic resin) that traps the fatty oils until the oxidation / curing process is complete. Those "physical" drying mediums should only be used on lower layers. Then there are of course oil/wax mixtures that can be UV-activated, but those are not oil paints - but that could, in theory, be mixed with artist's oil paints. This does work but the results are typically not very lively and work best for absorbing materials like in terrain building. Also, those substances can overheat and combust under certain circumstances. (me: professional toy developer & human factors dude, teaching materials & surface treatment tech.)
@420alphaomega
@420alphaomega 3 ай бұрын
Would mixing these oil washes work with the dirty down weathering stuff u covered before?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely.
@eugenioconti4688
@eugenioconti4688 3 ай бұрын
Hey Vince, great video as always, your videos are helping me to improve a lot and I am so thankful. I have heard from some people using oil paints on canvas that you need to wear specific masks when using oil paints and solvents, as their fumes can be toxic to inhale especially when used indoor. What's your take on this? Any suggestion safety-wise?
@VinceVenturella
@VinceVenturella 3 ай бұрын
Not really something you have to worry about too much with the amounts we use, this is just a little bit in a tiny cup, so its not generally an issue.
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