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Somebody, please set up an Amiga emulator and send Vinny a pack full of nothing but game ports to the Amiga. He will break instantly.

A lot of these ports are akin to someone telling you they can shove their entire arm down their own throat before actually doing it. It's an impressive sight at the technical level, you're left admiring the flexibility and how it all works. But the experience of just seeing things in action makes you feel uncomfortable and almost everyone is fine seeing it happen once and never again.

Coleco's Donkey Kong port is part of one of the most important legal cases in video game history. Nintendo had given Coleco exclusive rights for console ports of Donkey Kong in the US (the 2600 version was also made by Coleco). It was popular enough that Universal Pictures, owners of the King Kong IP, caught notice of it. Universal went after Coleco, claiming infringement on King Kong. Coleco caved without contacting Nintendo and agreed to give Universal 3% of sales of the Coleco Donkey Kong as royalties. Universal went after Nintendo after that, telling Nintendo that Coleco had already agreed to pay royalties. However, Nintendo didn't back down. By the time the dust settled in 83, Nintendo had legally eviscerated Universal and Coleco was fading with the video game crash. Howard Lincoln not only kept Nintendo from having to pay royalties, but it turned out that Universal themselves no longer properly owned the rights to King Kong. This positioned Nintendo at the top of the heap at the most ideal time, when the Famicom was preparing to drop and their potential competition in the market had all immolated themselves.

5:39: The original programmer of Doom for the SNES stated that it is theoretically possible to either double the framerate or the resolution of the port. He will eventually do it.

If SNES doom was made in 2023 it would be on a youtube video called 'How I made doom on the SNES' with a screenshot of the game and the doom guy's face with wide eyes and a big red arrow pointing to the snes logo and the video would be 7 minutes long with a guy with some random european accent explaining how he did it with flashy editing and that thing where the text appears word by word flashing up on the screen and the comments will be like 'bravo sir, you truly are one of the best programmers of all time' and 'wtf I wish we could travel in time and have this, my past self would have loved this'

Yoko Shimomura is one of the best video game composers of all time. As much as I loved seeing her play piano live at one of the Kingdom Hearts concerts, I wish there was a more overall concert of her work (her Smash Bros. arrangements, the Street Fighter II soundtrack, the Mario + Luigi soundtracks, Xenoblade…) There’s so much she’s done that people don’t even realize is her.

could've called it "port-a potty"

Crazy how vinny buys every single one of these cartridges and dumps the roms himself just for us

The guy who came up with the name "port hole" on the spot in vinny's chat must feel really smug now

I love this segment idea so much. There's certainly no shortage of potential content.

12:44 I love that Liu Kang has one giant beaver tooth

When I was like 6 or 7, my Dad brought me a copy of Oddworld: Munch’s Odyssee for the GBA that he quote “found in a gas station bathroom.” I played it for 5 minutes, got stuck on the part where I had to collect 20 boogers to open a door, and never touched it again

As a huge Shining Force fan who intimately knows what all the original music sounds like, that last segment took 10 years off my life in the middle of work

Had to go look up the fatalities for Mortal Kombat IV on GBC. Those are something else, it's a shame he didn't bring up a video of them. They were just the grainiest 8 frame FMV's of a generic finishing move ranging from "fuzzy blob throws fuzzy blob at other fuzzier blob and then fuzzier blob gets bigger" to "well shit subzero actually rips that guy's head off." They all then end with a blood splatter transition effect they paid a 6 year old at least half of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich (made with generic store brand ingredients) to make in Kidpix on his Mac Classic II.

3:43 That was me in 1995. I didn't have a good enough computer for proper Doom but really wanted it, so had to settle for the Super NES port, which I grew to love as I really only saw it as just a chance to play Doom. And maybe after Vinny streams the 3DO port, he should give the Saturn version a go. It would put THIS port in a new light...

What a highly-specific-to-my-interests topic this is, I eagerly await at least 30 of these

I remember making that first 3DO pack while cooped up post surgery. I remember being so happy that Vin ended up playing it lmfao. Happy to hear it still gets referenced here every once and a while.

There is a GBA port of Street Fighter Alpha 3 that is actually amazing. They managed to jam the whole arcade game roster on a GBA port which is insane with that much limited memory. Modern Vintage Gamer has a great video about it and the magic the devs at Crawfish did with this game.

The best part about the Sonic in the logo being on the wrong layer. That's apparently what happens when you enable "no sprite limit" in the emulator. Even the more recent Sega Genesis Classics Collection (the one that was released on consoles and stuff), has that issue. Paid official compilation on an Xbox One/PS4/PC....and even it still has that issue.

Someone PLEASE send him Oh Shit for the MSX. It's literally just Pacman but he says Oh Shit when you die

Doom on SNES may run poorly but its inclusion of almost all the PC content and even online multiplayer are admirable, and the fact it runs at-all is a technical marvel. Also its source code was recently released so an improvement hack is very possible. The 32X version got an amazing overhaul that brings it up to par with the PSX port.

I used to own an iPod Nano with the port of Sonic 1 on it. No joke, that version is probably closer to the original than the GBA is.

1:15:14 The MD emu used in SSP originated on Dream Passport 3, a browser with a service called *Dream Library* which allowed DC owners to play MD games with 150 Yen for a week. The service lasted until 2003 in favor of Sega Game Honpo for PC.

I have to agree with vinny with the "the worst sonic enemy is sega", sega most of the time do all the things to make this series fails with time limits and low budget, i dont like the idea of people saying Nintendo should get the ip because this means all sonic games go on will be Nintendo exclusive with is a terrible thing. Sonic team can make good games but they need like alot of re cast and investment to do

"Shoot till the enemy dies." Never woulda thought to do that.

It always makes me laugh when people are like "HyOw cEn BiNtY fRoGeT dEeS GYAEM?! He play eet beforrrre!" One person I saw even accused him of potentially having early onset Alzheimer's. The man has been playing trash for 13 years now, and literally hundreds of games have passed before his eyes. He's not going to remember everything, it's impossible. The people who say that humans have infinite capacity for memory and knowledge don't understand that is physically impossible.

You can fill these segments up entirely with Commodore 64, DOS, and Amiga ports.

I genuinely thought Vinny would forget about that one chat members comment yet here we are. I really hope this a long running segment

Coleco was accused of intentionally making a bad port for the Intellivision because the version on their own ColecoVision was nearly 1:1 with the arcade. They sandbagged the Mattel job. Atari tried gaining the sole rights to publish the game from Nintendo, and had it for a _very short_ while, before the company underwent a change in Summer of '84, wherein all of those kinds of contracts were freed up.

One of my most embarrassing gaming confessions is that the first version of DOOM I ever played was on the 32X. For the longest time i actually thought that was the way the music was supposed to sound.

Another bad port for doom is the 3DO port published by art data interactive. The CEO claimed that development was underway, which the sole developer of the port, Rebecca Heineman, found to be a total lie and was hit with a 10 week deadline. She then scrambled to make a port out of the pc and jaguar source code supplied by id software directly. It's a miracle the port happened at all considering the circumstances.

I wasn't emotionally prepared to deal with that "well I like the movies" line with regards to Sonic

Im so glad that chatmembers idea for PortHole actually came to life, love this community

>Vinny genuinely believes that a Mortal Kombat reboot means the original and the previous reboot's continuity is thrown out the window

28:53 I wasn't mentally prepared for that DK sprite. Frog Kong.

I long for the day we get a shitty NDS games segment and Vinny has to play the DS version of Need for Speed Most Wanted

Let it be known that Vinny is a man of his word. John Chat sent in his segment after Vinny challenged him, and now it’s a segment.

Digital Eclipse (also known as Backbone Entertainment) is actually a fairly well-regarded developer for arcade ports to consoles (often based on actual source code), their Atari and Williams ports to the SNES are near arcade-perfect, they did all sorts of fantastic ports like X-Men and Marvel Vs Capcom 2 and Symphony of the Night on the Xbox 360, they just also made pure trash for portable systems Also worth noting: Athena on NES was considered one of the worst video games ever made by Seanbaby, an early internet comedian and staffer at Electronic Gaming Monthly whose entire specific job with the magazine was to review and be an expert in terrible games.

I absolutely love the streets of rage soundtracks and hearing it reduced to beeps and boops on the dreamcast is dissapointing. The devs didn't emulate the FM synthesis at all. They didn't even try recreating the soundtrack with FM samples. The dreamcast used CDs for the games, right? The devs could've ripped the music from the original game and use CD audio for the soundtracks.

About the GB port of MK, it seems they spelled Rayden's name like that in the home ports because the Acclaim was afraid of getting sued by the makers of a schmup named Raiden. Ed Boon always hated the Y spelling and refused to change Raiden's name to be consistent with Acclaim's.

My family didn't have a computer that could run Doom back then, so the Super Nintendo was my only way of playing it. I loved this game so much, and it is indeed a miracle of a port. There's a video and a few pages that discuss how it was made. Apparently one of the tricks used was to make a lookup table that provided answers to a bunch of trigonometric calculations the game would need to do which would have been too intensive even for the SuperFX2 chip.

I grew up with an old Atari that was bought when it was on sale during the great video game crash. We had that Pacman and I found nothing wrong with it. No clue when I was 5 or 6 that Pacman normally didn't look like that. We also had Frogger and bunch of the other classic titles.

I know this might be a bit nitpicky, but I think The Last Ninja timestamp goes into the NES catagory

I wanted MK for the Game Boy for Christmas so bad, and got it from my aunt. And it was so bad, and I just had to pretend it was playable for years. As for Pac Man on Atari 2600, I was too young and lived too far away from an arcade to know it was nowhere near the original version, so it'll always be my version of Pac Man.

The Atari DK port is the origin of that stock video game sound we hear when a cartoon character is playing any sort of video game.

A cruel irony is that SNES Doom was one of the best homeconsole ports of it

Coleco had a pretty good port of Sega's Zaxxon for their Colecovision. Then they decided to port it to the Atari 2600 and the Intellivision. They made the bizarre decision to make them in a 3D perspective. Talk about a bad port. Woof. By the way, there's a homebrew of Donkey Kong on the Atari 2600, it's practically identical to the arcade game other than the first level's girders aren't tilted and the level scrolls. It's completely amazing what skilled programmers can do with enough time.

You know something's messed up when retro stores sell the Gameboy port of MK1 for more money than the SNES port. The SNES version isn't great, but it's still somewhat playable and looks fine. Yet somehow that port, last I checked for cart only, costs HALF the price of the GB version lmao Edit: I really enjoyed this segment btw! Would love to see more of this.

Vin, that version of Pac-Mac was the one I had, I'm strangely nostalgic for it. (We had a Snes too, but also an Atari 2600, so thankfully it wasn't 'all' we had)

My introduction to the Sonic franchise was through the GBA ports and the Advance series, and I loved them as a kid. But my brain very clearly repressed the horrible mixing of the OST for the GBA ports because holy I swear they did NOT sound like that.

29:28 I work in paint mixing at my local Lowe's and idk if that's so much a Periwinkle as opposed to a Peridee's which is more expensive to mix but looks good on shutters

Vinny: playing this is a nightmare Me: I know, that's why I just display the console

Atari pacman is great for those sound effects. dank dank dank dank dank

A Porthole to shitty ports has been opened This is gonna be a cool section for sundays

People gotta stop sending him Sonic Genesis LOL like, you have to be a pretty big Sonic nerd to notice the physics changes, not to mention all the extra needed context of knowing it's made from the Sonic Advance engine (a game Vinny will never play) and the knowledge that it gets worse as you progress (especially Labyrinth zone). Basically it's not a game an all-around game enjoyer like Vinny can play and immediately notice all of the reasons it's a bad port. Like it's easy at a glance to see why MK on Game Boy is putrid. But aside from the screen crunch, you can't really expect him to see why Sonic Genesis is bad or have much to say aside from him really needing chat to give context.

you can see in the ms pac-man port, black lines on the left side of the screen, which is basically what happened when the code failed to race the beam

I had Mortal Kombat on Gameboy, I bought it with my own birthday money when I saw it at the store. I thought "no way I can't believe they actually ported MK 1 + 2 for GB!!" and yeah, fuck that game. I played it a couple times and then just turned it on to hear the music sometimes

Losing my mind over this Streets of Rage 2 soundtrack

I actually owned Mortal Kombat 4 for GBC as a kid. One of those games I will never regret selling to GameStop for some pocket lint.

Mortal Kombat II on the gameboy is the best portable one. The controls are smooth and responsive, the framerate is smooth, the hit detection is spot on!

Race drivin' may be a bad port, but it's still playable. Most people simply don't realize you need to keep your speed low when golng over the hills.

In hindsight it's actually pretty interesting how much cheap GBA ports and other shovelware titles on the platform presaged the exact type of game design you'd see with bad official Flash games and bad mobile games.

Man, this is such a great idea for a segment. The home computers alone are full of games that would be perfect for this. Here are a few examples, all for the C64. After Burner (US Version) Bionic Commando (US Version) Castlevania Chase HQ Double Dragon Gryzor Mario Bros. (Ocean) Rolling Thunder Street Fighter (any of them)

i think it's really unfortunate vinny didn't take a look at the revenge of shinobi, that game has an easily accessible soundtest literally 2-3 button presses away from startup and it has the same composer as streets of rage, would've been a very fun (and painful) listen

Ah! Atari 2600 pacman with the combo in the middle for pac man to eat.

When I saw the logo I immediately thought of that youtuber currently working on Portal64, it's amazing seeing it run on a real N64 but I don't remember if he has released the beta to the public yet.

the birth of a new saga

oh my god he actually did porthole

Doom I and II on the GBA are also rather impressive, Doom II in particular since it doesn't have any exclusions IIRC. Doom I has no cyberdemon or spider mastermind boss fights but retains most of everything else plus cheat codes

I grew up with Doom on SNES. It was the only way I played Doom for about two decades. I loved it a lot as a kid and I still don't think it's a bad port really. It's worse than the PC version obviously but for what it is, it's solid. Also the music is incredible

Iirc Id wasn't even considering trying to port Doom to the SNES. The whole thing was done by one guy in his spare time without any help from Id or access to the source code on some weird SNES-Amiga hybrid he had hacked togheter. The first Id knew about it was when he sent them it to them asking if they would let him publish it.

Wow, I had the Sega Smash Pack and didn't notice the audio _at all_ back then. Played through all of Shining Force and everything.

The best part was the stylus outro. Lmao

Fun fact about that Sega Smashpack: Its release is the reason why Dreamcast preservation is as easy as it is today. There's a MVG video all about it that you can find easily.

JESUS CHRIST, i already knew about the bad sound emulation of Sega Smash Pack with Sonic 1 and SOR2 often being brought up as examples of that, but to hear that with Shining Force it straight up blasts into your ears with those ridiculously loud PSG sounds. And they were just fine releasing something like that at the end of the console's life lmao. Edit: Yeah, definitely shouldn't throw that term with the word around like that.

That's cool that he got some good ones to compare them

"Doom is the patron saint of Port Hole" hit me right through the italian, catholic-raised part of my heart.

I can't believe SNES Doom looks so bad. I rented it once or twice and never had a thought of it looking like. We used to have to put in so much more imagination while we played the games back then.

oh my god 18:07 is fucking genius what the hell

At leats the music from Mortal Kombat 1 on game boy sounds lit 🔥

athena nes looks like it would be on a plug and play. i mean the jump sound is spot on

this segment is golden

Deadly Alliance on GBA I havent played but it looks like it has some effort put in. And it looks like it emulates the ps2 game fairly well in how it plays.

this segment reminds me of all those old DS games that were just 2d ports of 3d Wii games.

im surprised guilty gear x advance edition isnt here that port is funny for the music ALONE tbh

These are perfect games to fit in my port hole

Earthworm Jim 1 and 2 on the GBA. There's also ports on the GameGear and GameBoy too. Max Payne on the GBA is interesting.

MK Deadly Alliance on GBA actually looks decent. I remember loving the game on xbox.

dear gods, I'm glad I passed on the Dreamcast Sega Smash Pack when it was new. I lucked out and got both volumes on PC and the sound quality was so much better holy hell

Seeing the Atari Double Dragon enemies doing frame perfect footsies like theyre in EVO Grand Finals and just obliterating Vinny gave me the giggles so hard I had to pause the video

Half-Life on PS2 is pretty good and interesting. Just make sure Vinny configures the controls before rushing through it.

I played Sonic 1 on Java and it actually wasn't terrible. Some sprite jank and slowdowns but apart from that pretty damn good port

Funny thing about Sonic the Hedgehog on the Game Boy Advance, it was released on the exact same day as the abominable Sonic '06.

I can't believe Konami fucked up one of the best deaths in King's Quest V. For those who don't know, the bear is supposed to _punch Graham in the fucking face._ Yes, I'm 100 percent serious.

I heard u talk about this last week and am excited

Man this segment will be great showing horrible ports of games that were on Game Gear or Game Boy

'mortal kombat 1 isnt part of the ongoing narrative' i guess he just didnt see liu Kang with god powers flying in the trailer. obviously thats just status quo since the original MK

38:53 “Just be thankful this isn’t the video games you grew up with.” Speak for yourself. :) We had the 2600 version of pac man when I was a kid, and it probably wasn’t the worst game we had. My parents bought the paddles, which came with breakout and night driver, the latter of which was far worse than this. If I recall, breakout had the minor flaw that after clearing the screen for the second time, the bricks weren’t redrawn again, and you were left bouncing the ball off the walls of an otherwise completely empty screen.

You have to play the C64 port of Street Fighter 2!