I can't imagine how hard that must be. I've actually thought about that several times.

That's very sad to find out about.

vinnie drank himself dead, dime was doing the same... by the time of his death he looked bloated and sick like another guy whose love for alchol was is demise, Warrel Dane.

Yeah but his son's saved heavy metal in the 90's and are regarded amongst the best ever.

@@jerrygallo8314 photos of dimebag before his death his fingers looked like sausages sign of liver and kidneys not working as they should if not shot he probably would’ve died like his brother infortanetly

Someones mom, or even grandma.

well, he wasn't a fan...just a whackjob...

Phil was the reason why Pantera disbanded, but that nut blamed Dimebag.

@@thedude4672he didn't blame dime. He was a psychopath who believed pantera was stealing his music, he didn't blame dime for pantera disbanding, he was delusional and he just hated them

As soon as he said this phrase…your comment nailed it. Except this one guy. 😢

He was a pantera fan not a damageplan fan

I saw Pantera and actually they showed up at a bar and it was my birthday and I got to party with them and they all signed autographs for me and Dimes was the coolest he wrote happy birthday 1 time MF…. Fast forward to Hellyeah days I saw them several wand at each show they came out other venue to fans waiting and took pictures and signed autographs and I was lucky enough to catch Vinnie Paul’s last drumstick he threw out to the crowd in Kentucky and I still have my autographs, the guitar pick that Dime personally gave me and the drumstick that I caught from Vinnie…. Hands down they were class acts metal heads and they loved their fans.

​@@jamesbrummett6739💪

I felt the same way. RIP Vinnie and Dime.

i saw them. Vinnie is rough on Phil in all these interviews. He wasn't in a good place around 2001 tours you could see. Still performed well but could tell he was in pure pain and misery but soldiered on. You could tell Vinnie was cranky as phuck and angry though.

@@jamesbrummett6739jealous of you bro

just months after this interview too. so fuckin sad

So lucky I got to hear him thunder away 3 times and met him twice, he's the pinnacle of metal drumming for me

What kills me about it is all the so-called "friends" of Dime and Vinnie lying through their teeth about how the brothers are happy looking down on this farce of a "tribute." The only motherfucker being honest about it is Chad Gray. Everybody else is just spewing out false bullshit. I will NEVER accept this cover band as the real Pantera.

I kinda feel the same way. Led Zep broke up after John passed, but at least they knew there could never be another Led Zep afterwards. However they did a show with Jason doing his Dads drum parts. I can forgive that. But the new Pantera IDK

that's what i hate most people who r seeing them don't understand. vinnie felt betrayal from what phil did, and then to lose his brother and then phil wants to come back around?? that was why he never forgave him. not saying not forgiving was the best choice, but i get why he didn't and held it against him until he died. but now that he's dead, phil does this move where vinnie can't speak out on it anymore? why didn't he do it when he was still alive? 🤔 just something to think about

Pantera died in 2004. This reunion is a gd travesty

It's like if Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony tried starting a new Van Halen.

Exactly!! I seen him with down in 2016 and he was smashed. Seen pantera last summer and he was fuckin incredible

no he shit talked phil until the day he died

They were teenagers during that era, true fans get it.

That was a close one. There are some atrocities of the past not worth mentioning

​@Sconi71 no way bro. We accept reality but can't understand it any more than country music

Phil appreciates your money.

​@@TheVoiceInYourHeadd I'm sure the rest of the band did too.

does it hell! you people are so deluded. pantera died when dimebag did, youre just selfish and want more. if it wasn't for phil, these events wouldn't have happened.

​@@TheVoiceInYourHeadd so the brother's estate. The tour wouldn't had go on if wasn't for them allowing the band to reunite

@Lucas-nu8ur The estate consists of Rita Haney and a couple of friends of Vince. They want $$$$$ so they don't care about the Abbotts. Vinnie himself said there wouldn't be a reunion. Now that he is in the grave both Phil and Rex are salivating.

Not to mention Phil is the sole reason Pantera broke up.

Real fans wouldn't accept this bs tour

Dude needs work. Dead people aren't owed anything.

@@bcrichwarlock7608fr man. i was born 2yrs after dime was killed and i refuse to see this so called tribute pantera was dime and vinnie there is no pantera with out them

​@@TheVoiceInYourHeadd Phil is also the reason they bacame the Pantera we all know.

Damn straight

Chad Gray is the only one speaking the truth publicly. Vinnie was against a reunion till the day he died.

They would be fucking furious. I bet they would love Atilla's cover band though.

😮😢 but why would u ask him that ….. how

​@@RebeccaMaria94 yeah that was a dick move on his part. The mans been thru enough. All the members of Pantera have

my exact thought, i could not pay a cent to go see that cover band they got together.

​@sergiolandz6056 they would have to pay me. And these clowns are charging $100 for floor tickets.

Learn more about rock history. The Doobie Brothers toured for years with no original members. Pete Best did a solo album called "Best of the Beatles" that had no Beatles on it. It was a pun. Some industrial band once changed their name to U2's newest album and made an album called "U2" and released it the same day.

Never got into DamagePlan or Hell Yeah. Pantera was awesome, though

I met her at inkarceration in Ohio last summer. Couldn’t of been nicer and she talked to me for probably 20 minutes and gave me a free shot of black tooth.

It really just comes down to personalities,. IMO anyway. And personalities can clash, explode. Being in a band is one of the hardest things anyone can do. Decisions about money, music, band direction etc.. can easily cause tension. It’s like going into business with 4-5 of your closest friends.

There are a couple that come to mind that figured out how to keep it together, R.E.M., Radiohead, Pearl Jam. But yeah for Hard Rock/Metal it's much tougher. I think that lifestyle is just so destructive, really burning the candle at both ends. People flame out

Res Hot Chili Peppers seem to all get along pretty well. Anthony and Flea have been best friends for almost fifty years, Chad has been the drummer for 36 years, John has been the only inconsistent member, and that's just because he doesn't really deal with the fame very well. They might all have their own personal demons and questionable history, but they're one of the only huge rock bands I can think of that have all been friends for 35+ years.

@@TheOfficialCaseMade Good point w RHCP. 311 knew each other as kids and are still together also. I have long time friends (30+ years) but we never had to work together and go on tour in a bus together. When you only get together every 6 months to drink a couple beers and eat some hot wings, it's easy to stay friends. Living on a tour bus for a year traveling the country, we'd probably kill each other. LOL!

Egos and money. Every time.

no phil no rex no albums like cowboys from hell and every album onwards

3 sides to a story. Phil accepts his role but I refuse to believe Dime/Vinnie didn’t play their parts in it either. People gotta stop acting like they were infallible

there is more stuff and happening behind the scenes that some of that all 4 band members took/will take with themselves to the grave. Vinnie used to be a major asshole sometimes, rex too, alcohol plagued the Abbott brothers till the end,and loss of his brother drove VP even more to booze. ofc not mentioning phils addiction and a boiling point happening when he overdosed on heroin on their homecoming. Rex was also a major snowplower when it came to drugs. All these fans screaming about how they spoke to vp/rex/phil(not going to add dime here because he is a saint confirmed) backstage for 15 minutes for all of them being so humane and laid back, but we don't see the everyday thing. The remaining abbotts and phil recalled that rex's book is abt 50% bullshit with him speaking down everyone else in the band except himself, but in the gibson interview i guess he got a little closer to the turht about everyones behavior during the downfall of pantera. If you really start to dig down into the subject as i did one night, you will find alot more info about the band. After all it was and severely mentally deranged person (his mom bought him a gun for his birthday wtf) finished the unraveling of pantera because he thought they stole HIS music. - i realized, holy shit thats alot of text xD Well anyways i hope more people who think a single invidual is at fault for the events that took place in the final years of pantera will see this. It just bugs me that there is so much diversion in opinions of who is at fault when it is clear as day that it was one schizophrenic piece of shit who was the final nail to the coffin. all of those guys had their own difficulties. But yeah quoting phil when he said something along the lines of "there is what he said and what he said, the truth is somewhere in the middle."

@@astroknott5263Phil also screamed white power on stage If you weren’t offended by that 🖕🖕🖕

@@user-yp5hg1px7p yeah, I've tried to see it from both sides for years. Phil had the other bands, that's not good for most bands, doesn't work.. even the behind the music made years ago, roadies & others talked about how they were pulling apart when Phil was in a lot of pain & needed surgery. Just becoming difficult to be around after Driven, wouldn't take time off to get surgery & recover, and he admits it in later years. I hold nothing against any of them. Dio was the nicest guy, & there were issues in all of his bands too if you see the recent movie/doc

Both Phil and Rex said the brothers became annoying to be around and had a lot of annoying low lives hanging around them too. Meanwhile both Phil and Rex, their addictions were wearing them down (+Phil's back injury), which only amplified their inability to tolerate the non stop party attitude the brother's had.

Dork

@@waywolfjones8127 No that's a solid bit.

Hahahahahaha priceless

Hurts me to hear that

If it wasn't for Phil they'd have remained a glam band and none of us would have been into them 🤷‍♂️

The sound that everyone knows and loves developed when Phil joined the band. He was the frontman of Pantera for all their good albums. The behind the scenes stories tell that he's the one who pulled them out of the glam style while touring the Power Metal album.

Obviously not "period," since they didn't become the Pantera we know and love until Phil joined.

@@Greg-rv5vm Phil got more and more insecure on each album to the point of Super high to screaming to low throwup incoherent Death Metal. Anybody can scream their head off. No real talent.

Still a punk abanding it🖕🏽

Right? You think Vinnie would go to this sham? This would never happen if they were alive. Imagine Phil pitching to them this idea of doing a Pantera Tour without Vinnie and Dime in the band? They're gonna sample the sounds too. Phil would get shot by both of em. For sure.

How the current line up sound?i think zac is doing dime justice personally and phil is sounding pretty good

@@ericm4426 Phil got no voice, Zakk sound good but it does not play like Dime...plus listening to Phil pathetic way of asking constantly people if they will come back to see them make it feel so cringe

@cyberrider1765 zac has his own style,dime was his friend,i seen pantera 2 times original line-up,even opened show for them count in to domination when i was 11 years old. Some things better to be left alone

@@ericm4426 i agree. I am no one to judge what one does and how they make a living, I will not support it though

@@cyberrider1765I feel Zakk could actually Fcking shred the songs if he actually tried hard. I feel like he doesnt wanna be compared to Dime, so he just kinda plays the songs a bit, when he could shred the f out of them. When hes playing black label shows, he shreds hella hard. Really good guitar player

Most likely.

Absolutely. He only got shot becuase he was playing some junk little club with no security. The sad part is is the brothers had just said the hell with it and called Damage Plan Pantera they probably would have been getting better gigs and Dimebag wouldn't have gotten shot.

Almost definitely, it didn't make Nathan Gale into a monster but he'd have probably fixated on another target and hurt someone else. It doesn't make Phil culpable though, how could he know? He's not a great person and he's said and done a lot of awful shit over the years but Dime's death is not his fault.

Agreed.

Many artists deaths were or are sad , Amy winehouse was sad , layne Staley , for others Chris Cornell or Pete steele, Dave from gwar, Scott weiland , Chester Bennington, Jeff from Slayer sooo many .

@SkyNetGeneral- I agree. Dimebag just influenced me a lot with his music, and it makes me sad to imagine that Vinnie had such a broken heart, yet he continued on.

Phil did a tour with the Illegals to play Far Beyond Driven in it's entirety, and no one cared. He throws the Pantera name on it, and suddenly people want to lick his asshole now. Fanboys will fanboy, I guess.

Ain't mad at all. I never got all caught up in that stuff.

​​​@@re4477I mean how can the Abbott brothers be a part of it if they're not around? At least some people that never got to see them, can still experience somewhat what it kinda was, original or not. Zakk is a great guitar player and Dimebag probably wouldn't have picked anyone different. I kind of want to check em out as I never got too when they were original.

Phil was making arrangements for a reunion before Vinnies body was cold. Phil discarded PanterA for bigger and better things, but we never saw bigger and better things from him. Now he's all about his cash cow. Good for the kids that go to the shows. Good for the PanterA crew. Whatever makes you happy. I'm just not interested 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, I've been wondering when Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony are going to reform Van Halen. That's all it takes, right?

Agreed BS

2004

Reinventing the Steal.

without phil joining the band they might have gone nowhere but being a glam band phil was a massive influence on their sound when he joined and was a huge part of pantera become who they were

Yes Phil might caused the Pantera disband but he has proven after all these years that he has changed and started taken care of himself

Eh. That may have tarnished the Pantera name even more than just disbanding. It's pretty clear that the Abbott Bros wanted to sell out and do nu metal. Damageplan was not very good. It wasn't any better than any of Phil's cringey side projects. It's like the Abbott Bros wanted to sell out and Phil wanted to just do unlistenably noisy projects for "metal cred". Both were huge missteps. Nu metal and buttrock were such a problem at this time.

Phil isn’t Phil without Pantera and Pantera isn’t Pantera with the Abbott bros!! They all needed each other and that’s what sucks!!!

​@@nickkleiber8636 I definitely agree with this!

@@Rob_Cary They sold out when they changed their sound to what you like.

@@nickkleiber8636 Like they couldn't have gotten some other no talent to bark over the music.

Best comment I've seen its disgusting and shows phil Is a shitty human being and I refuse to watch that jackass

That was part of it, but he was trying to get clean at one point and the party atmosphere of dime and Vinnie was not doing him any good. If dime hadn't been killed they would have gotten back together eventually

@@stillwelltjz6798 100% W opinion anyone that disagrees or say its Phils fault needs to be in the ground. Stop with "go phil" "for the brothers" Its PANTERA or nothing.

Addiction will ruin anything.

It was called Down!

@@CreatorfragmentsI think the final nail was super joint ritual because down put out their first album in 95 and if Phil would have gone right back to the abbots after down II I think they’d be alright

LOL, tough guy on the internet telling people to grow up because they have an opinion. I bet you think you're more metal than everyone else too, don't you?🤣

This interview wasn't in the 90s.

You are so wrong.

Well? That's not how theoretics function, because the calculations required to enter every single event would render any alignment impossible to track, and cherry picking from hindsight is self-serving. But being in his place, your own regrets would surely keep you awake at night trying to convince you of your hand being involved. A big reason we need to face our own demons and hold ourselves accountable when we first recognize them. Otherwise by pushing them down on the inside we keep them alive, and they will grow and feed on things that do not belong to them until the day you face true struggles, it will come up from the depths and lay claim to all damages as it becomes you and shoves you down into the deep inside where it was in hiding just barely alive. This has now become your fate.

@@Thesaurcery4U2C i aint reading that shit bro

​@@Thesaurcery4U2C and also it still wouldnt have happended because damaage plan wouldnt have happend

Phil made Pantera what it was.

@@LabiaLicker Phil definitely was tbe missing puzzle piece they needed and he brought the attitude. All im saying is that its fucked up how things work.

@@LabiaLickerWrong. The boys already wanted to go in a harder direction. Phil certainly played a major role in that, but to say "Phil made Pantera what it was" is a gross oversimplification.

@@all_invite_0hmYou didn't prove anyone wrong. Before Phil, nobody cared about Pantera. They became huge after Phil became the singer. Therefore, he made Pantera was what it was, regardless if you like that or not. Simple logic. Did the Abbott bros and Rex having something to do with that? Of course, but LabiaLicker didni't say that Phil acted alone. You inferred that.

@@LabiaLickerIdk man, Dimes guitar playing was always good, ever since the beginning of the band. Phill just brought some extra talent to the table. The reason Pantera was so great is there were 4 great musicians that all brought something to the table. It wasnt just one person that made the band great.