Vintage Road Bike to Flat Bar Gravel Grinder!

Vintage Road Bike to Flat Bar Gravel Grinder! | 1983 Peugeot PH10s

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2 жыл бұрын

I picked up this vintage Peugeot road bicycle for just 40 bucks. After tinkering around with it I decided to to a 700c conversion to fit wider tires to make it a kind of gravel bike. I also decided to throw some flat bars on it to differentiate it from my other builds. It is now a mix of Shimano parts and the original Simplex. The front wheel has a NukeProof hub laced to a Mavic rim! This is a fun, cheap, parts bin build. I forgot to mention that the rear derailleur is a Shimano Alivio and the front is the original Simplex.
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@LagunaRider1961 2 жыл бұрын

Love these types of builds! Looks like a keeper, congrats Tim!!

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@jered2177 6 ай бұрын

Love the old bikes

@stewartwilson382 Жыл бұрын

Peugeots from that era: they just worked and they had class. A little Continental glamour among bikes in the English speaking world, in the days before we knew what a cappuccino was.

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

Exactly! 😎🥐

@gatpannon2865 Жыл бұрын

Great content!! Thanks for sharing!

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Cavs1975 Жыл бұрын

Just did this with a 85 fuji sagres i got from a yardsale for 10 bucks , took wheels and handle bar off a mongoose hot shot I got from wal mart a few yrs back . Love it . Just got back from freedom trail .

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

Nice! Probably missed you because I choose the Hike & Bike today. Just discovered the Stow Bikeway leg too - some how never knew about it…

@kervilou5905 2 жыл бұрын

i do enjoy vintage peugeot, & bianchi, rossin, gitane.....in western France ; enjoy your vids !!!

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome- thanks!

@jimmansi1187 2 жыл бұрын

Tim, I love these old school steel bikes & what you can do with them. You can ride them as is or make it any type of bike you want as you did. I’m looking for one now to make an inexpensive gravel/urban assault bike like you did. You got a great deal, looking forward seeing how you finish it off & also putting it through its paces, I really enjoy you channel, Jim from Philly, stay safe!

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah / long as they aren’t too racey there is so much leeway! Thanks!

@davidmolinagadea370 Жыл бұрын

@@TimFitzwater Too racey would mean less tire clearence? I saw a video of a guy converting old treks from 27 inch to 650B. I'm about to buy a 1986 columbus frame made for an Ex-Yugoslavian rog production factory called ROG in Ljubljana, Slovenia, and everybody around here is telling me how impossible is to fit anything bigger than a 32mm tire. But then I see your videos or that other one, and it looks like possible. Hey, and thanks for your content, very honest and inspiring. Best from Ljubljana!

@ArtjomA Ай бұрын

I was wondering if some wider tyres will fit my PH11. Now I know the answer. Thanks!😄 Also I have a PH10, which has the same color as yours. I have upgraded it heavily, so it's a restomod beast now. I really like how this bike feels on the road. Carbonite ❤

@dpixvid Жыл бұрын

Want to something like this to my old 80’s Motobacane. Cool

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

I have an old Motobecane too - left that one mostly original though.

@davidjames-rp6oi 6 ай бұрын

doing similar with a pug frame and old raleigh stainless rims, i love stainless rims they never wear out

@TimFitzwater 6 ай бұрын

For sure! Nice! 😊

@kami4542 2 жыл бұрын

Nice conversion dude ;) I have a trick for you: to get more out of your 7 speed rear hub you can get a 10 speed cassette, remove one spacer and one cog (usually in the middle of the cassette, like the 19T) and voila you have 9 speed on a 7 speed hub ! (you can do the same with a 9 speed cassette but getting in the end 8 speeds) That's what I did years ago to upgrade an old 90's MTB. OFC you'll need a 10 speed chain with it to make it work (trust me I tried with the old 7 speed chain, it always rubbed)

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. That is good advice for other builds that I will remember. The problem with this wheels is that the free hub body was a short lived standard. Newer or older cassettes don’t slide on because of the splines.

@lawrencelibby3607 8 ай бұрын

You have the same Specialized CCCP Bobrik jersey I have. I got 700 x 38's on my '72 Carleton with center pulls. I think center pulls.

@aaronmoroney2066 5 ай бұрын

Awesome

@TimFitzwater 5 ай бұрын

😎

@dazzasp3 2 жыл бұрын

Argh man fantastic 👍🇬🇧

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@markmorton5280 Жыл бұрын

I found a Peugeot P8 at a thrift shop for $20, on which to go to the mailbox on the main road. Would do more to it, but it’s frustrating to source a longer seatpost in the super-rare French diameter. Still, it fulfills its intended purpose and even a ride of 1/5 of a mile, each way, is a step into another realm.

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

All my Peugeots have way more into them then they’d ever be worth - but if you ride it you ride it and that’s all that matters!

@arthurschierhoff6485 2 жыл бұрын

I recently bought a bike that had been converted to upright bars. I enjoy riding it as a commuter, but as you mentioned in the video , the road gearing is too high for serious gravel use. May I’ve I’ll try gearing it down sometime.

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah - we almost always do that - this rear hub is my problem - I need to get a different wheel.

@glennpettersson9002 Жыл бұрын

I bought a new Giant Cross City 2 for commuting which cost me $900 AUD and the only difference is disc brakes. That Peugeot is a sweet deal with a better paint job.

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

I tend to favor used over less expensive new - but that is just my taste. I only have one new bike and it is now vintage!

@Fhalmonacid 8 ай бұрын

Cool Frankenstein! Which rim width fits those fat tires?

@TimFitzwater 8 ай бұрын

There just 80s road wheels - narrow. Ive never had a problem putting wider tires on narrow rims.

@Fhalmonacid 8 ай бұрын

@@TimFitzwaterThat's greaaat! Thank you.

@kossmanneault683 Жыл бұрын

Cool bike? Did you have to cold set the frame and fork for the wider hubs?

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I just force it in there. I've never actually messed with trying to correctly stretch vintage frames but I've also never had a problem just jamming it! Steel is real!

@Cobwobbler Жыл бұрын

I like the idea of beefing up old road bikes with chunky rubber. With regards to brakes, would it be possible to convert them to drum brakes? Or 650b rims with drum brake hubs. Oh my… I feel another super project bike coming on… TO THE SHED!

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

I've never messed with converting rim brakes to anything other than longer pull rim brakes. You could do 650 with the right rim brakes though - people do it.

@Cobwobbler Жыл бұрын

@@TimFitzwater yes, I’ve had a dive into brake types and the Paul V brakes look an option for a 650 conversion. It’s a fascinating topic.

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

On a road bike though you’d have to mounts welded on to use v-brakes or canti’s.

@Cobwobbler Жыл бұрын

@@TimFitzwater Hmmm, time for welding class. Or maybe some JB weld glue. For V brake bosses, what could possibly go wrong 😂😂😂

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

Ha - I’d love to see the comment section on a vid where you glue brakes on!! 🥸

@eebzob Жыл бұрын

Is it an option to keep the cassette but install smaller chain ring(s), to get that lower gravel gearing?

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

Yes - as long as you can find ones that fit the spider - not always easy with old road cranks. I did swap the whole wheel to get a cassette with easier gearing since making this vid.

@Joni_I 4 ай бұрын

Is the braking surface on those rims actually black, and does it stay like that after usage? Looks really nice and clean, like disc rims. I’m looking everywhere for a similar set

@TimFitzwater 4 ай бұрын

It is - black anodized. It has stayed like that so far - I don't have a ton of miles on them but they are more than 35 years old.

@Joni_I 4 ай бұрын

@@TimFitzwater awesome, thanks for the reply!! Very cool build. 👌😊

@gregorywacker5708 2 жыл бұрын

Tim , I plan on doing a build like this , so 700c wheels with 38 tires works on vintage road bikes ? What brakes reach the rim ? Thanks great video !

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Switching to 700c from 27 inch *may fit you 38mm. I find the chances are better on cheaper vintage bikes. Its unlikely on bikes that came with 700c originally or anything on the nicer end of the spectrum. There is really no way to know until you try with each bike. Brakes are the same - all over the place. A lot of foreign bikes were designed with brakes that can reach because they sold the bikes as 700c in Europe but 27 in the US. Tektro does sell long reach brakes but I've done it all by trial and error.

@gregorywacker5708 2 жыл бұрын

@@TimFitzwater great thank you !!

@mirvanyousef7898 2 жыл бұрын

Yes it works with 700*38c but it should be adjusted and centered very well, I did one before but I will switch to 700*35 later.

@sergiografbike 2 жыл бұрын

put the corners bars on this bike!

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Not a bad idea!

@neiltorceno6051 2 жыл бұрын

how can we measure if the tire is gonna fit with the frame? no bikeshops near me and I'm hesitate to buy online if is not compatible hard to replace buying obnline replace if doesn't fit

@TimFitzwater 2 жыл бұрын

Calipers at the chain stays would be the only way without trying to put a physical tire and wheel combo in there - but even that isn't perfect as different tire/wheel combos don't necessarily measure out to what they are claimed to be. Its trial and error to be honest.

@alen7648 17 күн бұрын

Hello ! I have a question, how did you get the wider tires in ? I really didnt unterstand in the beginning when you were talking about it.

@TimFitzwater 17 күн бұрын

US bikes mostly came with 27 inch wheels which are a little bigger than 700c. So switching to 700c gives you a bit more clearance.

@alen7648 17 күн бұрын

@@TimFitzwater oh, I see, thank you very much ! 🙏

@paulrosa9879 Жыл бұрын

Are you in michigan, or just the midwest somewhere maybe?

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

Well, I’m literally in Michigan as I type this but I live in Akron, OH.

@rnwilliams28 Ай бұрын

Can I ask how you managed to clamp your modern bars on a vintage quil stem assuming the bars are 31.8mm on the clamp section

@rnwilliams28 Ай бұрын

I want to convert this 1990s Dawes audax giro that has a 550mm top tube and I’m 5ft 5 and simply cannot manage the reach even with a shorter quil stem. Thanks for the video 😊

@TimFitzwater Ай бұрын

These bars are from a 2001 MTB so the 25.4 just works with the French quill stem.

@TimFitzwater Ай бұрын

Velo Orange is a good place to buy something that will work better - either a quill stem or a adapter for modern bars.

@paulm8395 8 ай бұрын

Peugeot has 700 x 28 , so you're saying I can put 700 x 38 gravel tires and without changing the brake mechanism ?

@TimFitzwater 8 ай бұрын

It depends. There are lots of Peugeots out there of varying types and sizes. But many that had 27 inch rimes for the American market also had brakes made to work with 700c. When it comes to tire clearance and brake reach the only real way to know is to test it.

@efrentalavera 11 ай бұрын

Cuantos mm de ancho es la rueda

@TimFitzwater 11 ай бұрын

Son de 38mm

@efrentalavera 11 ай бұрын

@@TimFitzwater ok amigo.. y no te roza en el marco la rueda vas bien con lo ancho es que tengo una igual a la tuya y quiero ponerle llanta más ancha

@dominicvasturia9326 Жыл бұрын

Looks cool but sucks…classic peugeot

@TimFitzwater Жыл бұрын

Why even come at it like that? I know its a cheap bike - its fun to ride. Tons of people rode cheap Peugeots and they must not suck that bad with so many still ticking. It was nuts the amount of these in the streets of Paris when I was there. Everything doesn't needs to be a Colnago. Bikes are fun - bad attitudes and gate-keeping are lame.