I just love the clips where he struggles to deal damage with the weapon he's talking about for a good minute or so before switching to a different weapon and doing the same job in a fraction of a second.

Funny how except from the eridian mega cannon, in the gameplay footage you actually shred everything with those ''bad weapons'' yet in bl2 with half descent weapons you are barely killing anything...thats why i always loved bl1 it was so much fun and u never ever actually got overly crappy loot everything was usefull!

I really hope Borderlands 3 returns to a loot system more similar to the first one. Really miss seeing completely nonsensical weapons being spawned. The ones in Borderlands 2 were random but we still pretty much knew what we would get.

As for the Butcher: two of the four classes in BL 1 have shotgun/overall ammo regeneration, which completely negates the only Butcher’s problem being high ammo consumption.

Am I the only one wondering how Wilhelm took down the original vault hunters?

"No. 1, the Friendly Fire" *proceeds to shred a pack of skags with the worst weapon in BL1*

When you have nothing to do on borderlands 2 legendarys so you move back to Borderlands 1 legendarys

Butcher + Roland = Yessssss

The redemption's ammo consumption problem can be nearly eliminated with the ability to regen ammo like Roland's Support Gunner class mod and Brick's Wide Load skill.

The Surkov isn't a bad combat sniper rifle, think standard issue bolt actions in the beginning of WWII, if it has a lower than 2.0 weapon zoom.

The friendly fire, surkov, and wildcat are great legendaries wtf.

The Troll's health regen is just way too slow to be worth even equipping, especially when almost every other form of health regen is better. The Surkov is much better than the Cyclops and Troll. With a x1 or x1.5, it's a really good close to mid-range weapon for Sniper builds. I'd say the ammo consumption on the Butcher is worth the burst damage, but the usefulness of one is very much dependent on how good its reload speed is. Both the Hydra and the Friendly Fire can spawn with Carnage barrels (and the Boomstick can spawn with a Friendly Fire acc), gaining all the benefits without the downside of fixed pattern. I'd also say that, with good enough parts, the Friendly Fire's damage/tech bonus is worth the fixed pattern, and not deserving of being the #1 worst legendary. I'd probably give the #1 worst legendary to the Reaper for being one of the rarest weapons in the game but having a bugged special effect. That or the Troll. The Troll just sucks.

the cyclops was pretty much made for Mordecai as you you could do HUGE critical damage with skills

The Friendly Fire, Butcher, & Surkov aren't even bad, they're great

Puma you do realise that you are only looking at one playstyle and not with the other characters.

The worst part of the troll is that it is such a rare legendary, I've been playing Bl for awhile and have only found 1

I think the zurkov is actually good, considering that ammo regen is a thing in bl1 the butcher is pretty viable and the friendly fire might be worse than other legendary shotguns, but the worst? I don't think it's that bad

Puma's format: 1. So "game name" has a lot of "opposite of video title", .... BUT..... 2. without further a due..."video title" 3. occasionally, phrases like "lets go" or "lets get started" before countdown begins 4. the once in a blue moon appearance of "BOAT LOAD OF A$$!"

The thing about borderlands 1 is that guns that are truly excepcional usually last for a while, remenber with my first playthrough with Mordecai and I got meself an Ogre, and it carried me pretty much through Pussy the Destroyer till halfway through the knoxx DLC in my second playthrough, just hope that if this game ever gets a remaster of sorts that they add something to the likes of UVHM and allow us to replay the whole story at max level.

The redemption is really good on brick and roland if you have a com that gives ammo regen and roland and brick can give a massive mag increase which makes it quite potent

IIRC, the Butcher is amazing on Roland with a Support Gunner mod. Ammo Regen + Increased Mag capacity makes for a very solid auto-shotgun.

I played the hell out of Borderlands and never even knew there were eridian legendaries

the redemption is really good bro

"The Gasher and Wildcat are bad" Proceeds to annihilate everything in sight. Aight, whatever you say sir.

"Hopefully we wont see any more horizontal bullet pattern weapons" 🅱️🅱️🅱️ sandhawk🅱️🅱️🅱️ pitchfork🅱️🅱️🅱️

Puma y u no try other characters except Lilith? I've heard Mordecai is pretty fun

I keep the cyclops for slow moving targets far away. Never had the wildcat but it makes no sense...There are ones with 69 capacity dealing 400 damage and if it's about quick spray at ultra close range against unarmored enemies I take the double anarchy with way more damage. Good to see that even lilith skills can't make some smgs worth it. What I dislike the most is shotguns with almost no precision but a x4.0 scope on them which further ruins other stats. The riccochet effect that shoots the bullets in a helix seems to lead to a lot of misses imo. I had a redemption with a mag size of 5. The first shot is using 4 rockets, the second one does the same with one.^^

Just realized I have a level 17 Malevolent Savior that is still one of my most powerful weapons on my level 46 Brick.

The Surkov is a great backup if you can't get the penetrator, plus it's alot more powerful.

As someone mentioned below, roland + butcher works due to abundance of ammo regen. The redemption returned in bl2 as nukem

How to effective use these 10 weapons in borderlands 1: shotguns- use roland(Excluding hydra) rockets- use brick or Roland(Ammo regenerative) smg- use ranger mordecai( insanely high accuracy) remaining weapons- avoid them.

If you LEGIT get a mega cannon do NOT sell it bruh 💀 that’s one of the rarest weapons in the game

I'm just gonna say right now the very best non legendary gun in borderlands 1 is by far the double anarchy smg and if you don't know what that is think of the lascaux from borderlands 2 but on steroids it's pretty much a shotgun with ludicrously high fire rate

VinylicPuma: The Surkov is a lacking sniper rifle- Also VinylicPuma: Continues to one shot enemies

#10 - don't use long range sniper rifles up close. Got it. 👍

Your problem is not the fact that these weapons suck they just stuck with characters who are not specialized in those weapons ie using a sniper rifle on anyone but Mordecai is not as good were a shotgun on anyone but Roland is crap and anybody using a rocket launcher who is not Brick is an idiot. SMGS are the only exception because while Lilith is more proficient with SMGs then any other character her forte is Elemental rather than a particular type of gun. The only gun from this entire list I would never use is the eridian Mega Cannon because that model is the absolute worst weapon in the entire game

The Redemption launcher can be improved massively by putting it in Rolands hands, With my Heavy Gunner Com the magazine is doubled and by the time i have reloaded i have usually regenerated the ammo too

I actually came across the Sercov multiple times while farming for a Bone Savior, and even in the weapon shop I though “huh, that doesn’t seem very good,” glad to know it wasn’t a mistake to pass it up.

In my opinion the wild cat was useful to me while I was fighting general knoxx because it is big and was always on my butt the entire time. It was better to use then the hellfire considering how the wild cat was hitting a lot of criticals.

I got all these legendary guns. They work fine for me. :3

The Atlas Chimera was my favorite Borderlands gun it lasted me for a very very long time.

The Friendly Fire rocks! Why do you think it sucks?

Based on what you had said I believed the Gasher was a bad legendary... until I used it myself. I absolutely love it, I agree it’s pretty lackluster in a long range fight but mid to close it is a GOD

The Butcher and Redemption are good on Roland becuase of his support gunner class mod, it helps you regen your ammo

I got some weird pearlescent 'Hydra Hydra' shotgun a while back, which works as a normal shotgun, but with great stats.

Oh man! Marcus is selling the Friendly Fire! * buys it * * watches this video * Oh.

Wow... I never know that thing about snipers on borderlands 1... so that's why sometimes I miss shots that I have 100% sure that the aim is on the head of my enemy... BUT THIS DON'T EXPLAIN WHY I MISS SOME SHOTS AND AFTER MISSED I SAW THE BULLET EXPLODING RIGHT BEHIND MY ENEMY LIKE PASSING TROUGH HIS BODY... man, that always happen to me...

why snipe with lilith then pull out a hellfire with merc com just to make cyclops look worse. why not snipe with a mordy sniper build?

Friendly fire number 1 🤣 get a 2 mag one with Roland and use it like a hellwalker, it’s top tier with an aggressive play style

With my Modicai sniper build I shit on Knoxx with the surkov

Friendly fire did make it's way into a future game but is so much better, the name escapes me but the item card read: "what a booming smile" or something. This gun wrecked with Nisha in TPS

I'd probably flip the WIldcat and Gasher, I've found the Gasher just does more damage better, but yeah, I've also found the Butcher is pretty decent as well. The Redemption can work really well on Brick when he's really specced into the Explosive tree as it answers most of it's problems

The friendly fire with the rocket barrel is insanely powerful

...erm...since he didn’t (ahem) “the friendly fire really is a boatload of AYSS!”

I swear, if the Equalizer is on this list. (Tediore Legendary revolver)

Pls beat hyperious with a wonderlust.

Your right about all guns but i like to say that the redeption rocket luncher are one of the best if you use bricks explode build with the right class mod. Not critisiesing (sorry im from Sweden don't know how to spell) i just like to make a point.

Most of these guns arent even bad

When he was talking about the Cyclops he said it was a bad gun to use up close. My question, who uses a fucking sniper rifle for close quarter combat

I agree with you for most of these, but the Surkov and Friendly Fire I don't agree with, I personally think they're amazing weapons, but it is your opinion in the video, so I can respect it :D

Glad you made this. I started Borderlands again, so I wasn't sure what was good. :)

Puma: horizontal projectiles sucks. Sandhawk: *exists

Hey....... {good job} keep up the borderland 2 videos/ I just got the game but im already in level 27 I just beated jack....also your videos are really helping me... I subscribed and turned on post notification 👍👍👍

You should keep making more borderlands 1 count downs.

wooow a video of borderlands 1 :D thats makes me happy puma

What a boat load of I'll let you finish

I’ve been playing BL1 a lot lately. I’ve always liked that when you see an enemy with a weapon that top had a chance to have that weapon drop. I never understood why Gearbox didn’t keep it in the other BL games. Another thing I think Gearbox should have kept in BL2 and BL3 is hybrid weapons or the chance to at least get one. I understand it wouldn’t be the same as in BL1 but Gearbox could have made certain Hybrids and gave them extremely low chance of dropping.

I was getting legendary drops playing the remaster, had to come to this video to see if they were good or not, I have the cirkov sniper in the wildcat. Mann thats rough

Yey! I have asked for more bl1 videos for sooooo long!!!!!

I agree on most except the gasher, it melts. You just have to be more accurate than the Double anarchy and it is my favorite smg for range when the anarchy is hard to hit from far. And the Friendly fire is extremley strong when you use it like a shotgun and less like a rifle.

The butcher is a boss killer for Roland.

At least the Friendly Fire shotgun doesn't do what its name suggests.

Hates the cyclops so much that instead of using ot to give an example, he whips out the hellfire

VinylicPuma, do you only do Borderlands 1 videos with Lilith, because Lilith is your only level 69 borderlands 1 character or just because she’s your favourite Borderlands 1 character?

Hello, im a Brazilian and i really like your videos and here to ask you to post more videos about borderlands 1 and create a playlist with all your borderlands 1 videos, thanyou for you attention and sorry about the write errors :v

you played BL2 first instead of BL1?

I definitely agree with you on the Friendly Fire. Only one I've seen worth picking up had the Carnage accessory, and that's saying something XP As for the Wildcat, I guess there's a reason the red text calls it 'the ultimate _close quarters_ feline". Since the only place to use the thing is when you're right up in an enemy's face

Just got a Troll while you were talking about it

*(GOD I LOVE THE RELOAD ANIMATIONS IN THIS GOD FORSAKEN AWESOME GAME!!!)*

I found a Hyperion gun called the crimson stinger II it was so badass. This was back in 09 I have never found it again. It had solid rof dps and accuracy was all the way top notch

2024 and friendly fire is carrying me through the game

Bring more BL1

You really want to know what the absolute worst guns are in this game? Thumper SMGs. All of them. Doesn't matter if it's a Hellfire or an Anarchy, Thumper SMGs are the absolute worst guns out there. Mediocre damage with the cost of an ass fire rate. You could easily find a semi-auto repeater pistol with a faster fire rate and does more damage than a thumper SMG. And about the Wildcat and Hydra? There is nothing more infuriating than sticking an insanely inaccurate gun up your enemy's ass and STILL managing to miss.

One time I found a hellfire early on I keep it ever sense I never swapped it out

I have a 333 dam 21.9 fr Gasher that I love on my siren, also I have a 454x9 Friendly Fire that obliterates shit, only stronger weapon I have is a 555x7 Unforgiven, and that has a shit fire rate and no element.

A Shotgun strong point is the massive amount of pellets and damage it could inflict in a single shot, with the trade off being that the pellets spread so it is weak at range. That's the whole point of a Shotgun. *Borderlands Gun Manufacturers:* "Let make our Unique and super expensive Shotguns have a massive spread or fixed wide pattern. Because that will sell." So you are saying that you have the technology to control how much spread your Shotguns can have and even fix them into patterns...yet you decided to make them *spread even more.* Then they put a Sniper Rifle scope on it to rub it in. Nice. Real nice.

This list would be much different if you 1. do a roland build 2. farm crawmerax with any VH. Roland has both ammo regen and shotgun spread reduction. And as far as the guns with low accuracy they are the best for murdering crawmerax. Although roland is by far the supreme crawmerax slayer, especially with low accuracy shotguns

Anybody still playing the first borderlands? Looking for some other people to play with on xbox one

The friendly fire was thw first legendary I found and for where I am it's doing great

A fun countdown might be most expensive guns in borderlands 2 or something because I've noticed some random weapons are extremely expensive and aren't even all that rare

If you play as Roland and have the class mod what regenerates ammo (i dont know the name but its something with second) you can use every gun, cause you have endless ammo. And: i like the wildcat cause of my ammo regeneration class mods so i can spamm enemies

I wanna get into nodding borderlands 2, and I was a big fan of the wildcat smg. What should I replace with it?

was watching your vids earley today love em

Mordecai as a sniper build would benefit from a good scope on a sniper rifle. Just saying. I mean, I sit back and snipe all day with sniper builds in all genres of shooting games. Farther the range the better. Basically a huge zoom would be beneficial in my opinion. I don't like Eridian weapons in BL1 at all, I just hate the recharge rate of them. Yeah no ammo but I rather waste rounds to kill enemies quickly as possible.

This month I'm replaying Borderlands 1 using Lilith and found two Friendly Fire shotguns during my 1st and 2nd playthroughs, with slightly different attributes of course. I don't remember this gun from my previous playthroughs with other characters, but so far it has been one of the best legendary weapons that I've used in this game. Can't agree with it as #1 in this video.

more borderlands 1 countdowns :)

I found a rocket friendly fire, got it on my lilith and its a little bit good than the normal one. But i only keep it because its hard and rare to find it

10. Cyclops (Sniper) - 2 much zoom, 2 much spread 9. Troll (Repeater) - Tiny heal not worth using gun for 8. Surkov (Sniper) - Ok but there are directly better versions of it with less spread 7. Butcher (Shotgun) - Eats a lot of ammo for less damage per shot and a wild burst fire 6. Mega Cannon (Eridian) - A little more damage at the expense of a slow fire rate and a painful weapon recharge time 5. Wildcat (SMG) - Big magazine and fast reload speed for really bad accuracy making hitting anything pretty hard 4. Redemption (Launcher) - More damage for more ammo consumption, but you're doing a lot less damage per rocket ammo used than most other launchers. Also have to reload after every shot 3. Hydra (Shotgun) - Pretty frustrating, shoots in a horizontal line, making it only useful at point blank range 2. Gasher (SMG) - What good is burst fire when you have bad spread, recoil, and accuracy. At least with the Wildcat you can just spray and hope to hit something 1. Friendly Fire (Shotgun) - Shoots a big ol smiley face which _hits nothing_ I got u

The Dove is a light orange Infinity pistol it sucks but it's my very first one I ever got myself solo so I'm gunna treasure it forever LOL

The gasher with the right barrel is one of the best weapons in the game .