Actually tons of Imperial supporters still worship Talos. Torygg worshipped Talos. It's implied that Elisif worships Talos. It can be seen that Rikke worships Talos. Contrary to your belief, most people, Imperial supporters or not, still worship Talos. They do this because they hate the Thalmor, everyone hates the Thalmor, so they worship Talos to spite them. And only Thalmor justicars actually enforce the Talos ban, Imperial soldiers turn a blind eye at every chance they can.

The Empire doesn't prosecute soldiers that worship Talos. I thought it was common knowledge that Tullius knows Rikke worships Talos, but does nothing about it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised at all if Tullius himself worshiped Talos in secret.

You forgot part. If you follow Hadvar at the beginning, in Riverwood you will learn from Advar the Blacksmith that, while open Talos worship was prohibited, everyne had their own shrines to Talos at home. The worship was tolerated, if frowned upon. It wasn't until Ulfric started making a big deal about it that the Aldemeri Dominion demanded that the Empire crack down on it. While I agree that the Empire has become a shadow of its former self, they simply have a better chance against the inevitable conflict with the Aldmeri Dominion.

" I´m Stormcloak as you can see " He says as he's wearing Imperial armour and killing Stormcloaks

The line General Tullius says at the end of the Stormcloak side of the Civil War sums it up perfectly. "This is what they wanted" The Empire can only beat the Dominion unified, by breaking Skyrim away from the Empire, Ulfric is doing exactly what the Thalmor want.

Also worth mentioning that the reason Talos is banned is mostly Ulfrics fault. Look at whiterun. Until Ulfric attacked and forced Balgruuf to pick a side, there was free talos-worship in Whiterun, even a preacher yelling in the middle of the street. But because of Ulfric's attack, Talos is now banned in Whiterun. Ulfric is literally causing what he is fighting against.

It's been so long since I've killed a stormcloak, my sword arm is getting flabby.

Just so you know, the point about the Orcs living in their stronghold is actually their choice and was granted to them from the Jarls of Skyrim. Part of the code of Malacath is living and working in the stronghold, and the Nords respect the Orcs for their skills as warriors and blacksmithing.

the imperials and the stormcloakes should team up against the thalmor, because whether the imperials or the stormcloakes win, skyrim is still screwed when the thalmor attack

The big question I have is: Where does the Dragonborn fit into all this? The Thalmor will want him/her dead no matter how the Civil War ends, so a possible scenario is the Dragonborn making a play for High King, getting the crown, and then uniting Skyrim under their banner. If that happens, I see Hammerfell and Black Marsh falling in, with High Rock joining soon after. And unlike the Empire, chances are good the Dragonborn can take the fight to those jackass elves. At bare minimum, if Dawnguard is counted as canon (and it should be), they'll have 2 dragons on call, and one of them cannot be killed.

If only there was a third option: StormCloaks and the Imperials have a truce and fight the Thalmor

Wow, after all these points, you still sticking by Stormcloaks. You know, even Ulfric aknowledges that all this warfare he started is bad after you kill him and meet up in Sovngarde. Think on that.

I notice you dont mention is, but there is an imperial commander in one of the provinces who's a high elf who states he holds no love for the Dominion, its worth mentioning that also the enforcement of the ban on Talos worship only happened BECAUSE Ulfric made a big deal about it during the Markarth incident, even Jarl Balgruuf the Greater is known to worship Talos. In truth the Stormcloaks are simply destroying Skyrim and will merely justify further Thalmor incursions into Skyrim

To be fair, Alvor in Riverwood said that despite the bannng of Talos, they never truly enforced the law since people still worshiped in secret and had shrines in their homes. It was the start of the war that caused them to crack down.

The Imperial armies are already greatly replenished. As General Tullius says "Most of the Legion is in Cyrodiil, waiting for the Dominion's next invasion." "From the Imperial City our war here is just a side-show, an interlude before the main event against the Thalmor resumes." The Dominion would have a very hard time replenishing their armies, as High Elves have a very slow reproductive system and Valenwood and Summerset were both purged of all non-Mer. The Thalmor also kill nine out of every ten babies that are born, to keep the ones that are purest. But, even if both the Redguards and the Nords went up against the Dominion, they'd lose. As neither of them use magic and they both have inferior navies. In fact, most of the ships in Skyrim belong to the Empire. And, Hammerfell still relies on the EEC for trade, as does every province, giving the Imperials an immortalized standing, militarily, politically and economically in every province in Tamriel, even the Dominion ones, though Dominion provinces have proven to be very self-sufficient. It's not like the Empire wanted to outlaw Talos worship, they were forced. And, it was actually Ulfric who caused the Dominion to have a standing in Skyrim, being able to arrest people, with his Markarth incident. The Thalmor patrolling the Empire originally wasn't part of the treaty, the Dominion just wanted it outlawed and when they found out of the Empire's betrayal of the treaty at Markarth, the Emperor's hand was forced and the Thalmor took it upon themselves. Also, Ulfric didn't have to kill Torygg in the Duel and shouting in battle is frowned upon in Nordic tradition and has been ever since the massacre of Red Mountain. In the duel, Ulfric only had to make Torygg yield. Take the duel between Jorrun and his brother for example. This duel was for the Nordic throne, and Jorrun won and he didn't kill his brother. Only made him yield. The Imperials also have a law in place for this kind of traditional dueling that gives magistrates the right to arrest Ulfric for foul murder, if the weaker party was goaded, or intimidated to doing the duel and the weaker party is killed in the process. There's a misconception about the Medes. That they're some kind of corrupt horrible machine that purposefully causes pain onto others. The Medes are very humble, in fact, Titus Mede II saved the Empire during the Great War with the concordat, to rebuild the armies. The Medes don't have a reputation for corruption. They've never had a single bad Emperor, as far as we know. The notable Emperors were Attrebus Mede, Titus Mede I and Titus Mede II. You already get to meet Titus Mede II in the game and he was a humble guy, but sadly, the community has become so backwards with this Stormcloak mindset that the Medes are the most hated people in the game, especially Titus Mede II, which sucks because he pulled the greatest military victory in history. He defeated the Dominion's army wiping out most of it, which not even Tiber Septim could do with just his armies alone. Titus Mede II was only in his late 20s when he pulled off this victory. I know you'll probably miss this, but please read it and take my points into consideration.

I always thought, and kind of still think that the stormcloak vs Empire debate was mostly deciding between now and later. I think the Empire has made it obvious that they don't agree with the ban of talos and planned to eventually go to war with the thalmor. I'm not too familiar with elder scrolls lore, but I got the impression that the ban of talos was a surrender term so it was either don't worship talos or we wipe out everyone. Given that, if the stormcloaks win, the thalmor would most likely come in to lay waste to everyone (due to the loss of the Empire, there'd be nothing stopping them), and since the stormcloaks would be fresh out of war, they'd be weak and easy pickings. If the Empire wins, they'd have time to actually prepare for war to fight to gain the right to worship talos back. This is what I thought was going on. I always thought that if the stormcloaks win, they'd be put straight into another war (kind of like when you're being given a swirlie and you get a slight breath right before being shoved back in.) I might be wrong about this though.

The stormcloaks suck. HEY, remember what was happening at the beginning of the game, oh right, the stormcloaks lost; And to a weakened Empire no less. Alduin's intervention only delayed the inevitable. What hope would they have against an immediate thalmor invasion even if they did win? The game already told us what's gonna happen, the Empire will gather its strength, stop the rebellion and fucking destroy the nazi elves. The Empire fucking LOVES Talos, it's his empire after all. Outlawing his worship was an ultimatum from the thalmor after the imperial capital was sacked. If Ulfric really loved Talos he wouldn't have abandoned everything he stood for to strike out on his own, and he even admits his actions were stupid.

Ulfric would have had a point about the outlawing of Talos worship that drove his rebellion, except for all of the shrines and priests of Talos that can be found in Imperial aligned cities like Whiterun.

After completing the imperial campaign and you talk to tulius he says that now that the empire is going to build and take on the dominion. The empire is ticked about the concordat as well but they know they have to tough it out for there to be any hope of beating the dominion

Can't I just side with the NCR instead? XD

Long live the empire!

long live the empire, the elven empire are the real enemy

Only reason I'd choose imperials is so I can have Ulfric as a dead thrall. He can shout!

HAHA! Suck it, Stormcloaks! But seriously though, at the time of The Elder Scrolls V backing The Empire seems like the more prudent action for the long-run seeing as there is a pretty good chance that The dominion will attack again . Then again, they may have somewhat of a smaller army and less diverse army, seeing how they treated the Bosmer.... Personally, if i where in charge i'd start making arrangements with the clans of Valeenwood, restock the Imperial Legions, build a massive fleet, re-open comunications with Hammerfell, broker a peace between Morrowind and the tribes of Black Marsh and propose an alliance with The Empire and rip the White-Gold Concordat as a final, defiant gesture before invading the Thalmor outposts in on Tamriel and start to an invasion of The Summerset Isles..... but that's just me

weren't the snow elves already living in skyrim before the nords?

Skyrim's only hope? Jarl Trump. He'll make Skyrim great again.

I'm not against the Storm cloaks desire to worship Talos but a United Empire would be the best bet for dealing with the Thalmor. Once they've been defeated (Because we know they will go back to war with them...) they can win and Talos Worship can be restored. Stormcloaks alone just aren't enough of a Force. Funny enough, I love playing as a Wood Elf who worships Talos.

HORSEY NO!!! WHY DID YOU KILL HIM?!

i have a theory Ulfric worked with the thalmor in some sort of deal he kills the empire in skyrim in exchange for skyrims independence

I don't think we will get a cannon outcome of the war in the next game. They will remain as vague on the events of the last game as they do everytime.

he watched zaric and found out hes wrong about the stormcloaks

There are two kinds of people in this world.......... Stormcloaks fans And Imperial fans Btw I’m with the imperials

i see parts to both sides. but i can never back the stormcloacks. ulfric is a madman and his racism is just shy of the thalmor in my eyes.

Everyone is complaining that Puma is contradicting himself, but he just does a positive video on all sides in Bethesda games to ensure that there is free flow of ideas and that both arguments are seen. It's quite a nice format.

Fuck it I'll take over tamerial as the new emperor with a kajhit empire and help the akavri tiger men in akavir by slaying the vampire snake people. Yes I made a lot of spelling mistakes I am not a Wikipedia.

Wanna know what I wish? Remember the one stormcloak at the start the game who lost his head? Well, WHY COULDN'T IT BE ULFRIC

There should be a world war in the next elder scrolls game

When I saw the part about the races here is what I thought "You have become the very thing you swore to destroy"

I DISAGREEEEEEEEEEEEE

As far as the cannon ending, this could be a "dragon break" moment, where all possible events, even the contradictory ones, occur at the same time and converge onto a single canon ending. In the canon, Savos Aren is killed and survives, Wuuthrad is rebuilt and remains in pieces, the civil war remains in progress, Ulfric and Galmar is killed and survives, the same is true for Tellius and Rikke. The whole cannon of elder scrolls is just fan service to players for those who chose certain endings and guilds.

I love that all your theory videos you have a rebuttal, you could totally just be opinion based and be like "this is this and that's that" but you don't and it's what makes your theory videos so good (by that's that I mean you could say this is this and that's it there is nothing else)

Great Work, I love your theories. Keep it up Puma!

Very comprehensive overview of the civil war in skyrim, looking forward to seeing more vontent from you lad

Oh no. I'm not ready for another multi week discussion chain debating whether Empire or stormcloaks are right!

Khajiit are not accepted either, they don't even get to come into Skyrim towns if they don't have a camera for a face.

after hours of research via vids like these and timeline explanations this has helped me make my decision between the empire and storm cloaks.

I'm supposed to be playing Game of War, but then I took an arrow to the knee.

Its funny how stormcloak supporters act like the legion banned talos worship on their own free will and not forced

Despite both sides having 30 years to recover, we have to remember that the Empire would probably have a larger army to fight with. After all, Humans breed faster than Elves.

I think Torygg's allegiance was ultimately to Skyrim's people and Ulfric's allegiance was ultimately to his own fears.

I made a comment on your other video about this video...thanks for making this video. Keep up the good work.

I feel like their should be a third faction now

Please make a top 10 Skyrim glitches! That glitch where you get a greybeard to freeze you off the cliff at the Throat of the World and you spin like crazy in the air makes me laugh so hard xD

7:48 puma I don't think your shield is going to stop that giant's club any time soon...

The main thing to point out is that if the Empire has the Dragonborn on their side the Dominion will be ripped into pieces.

I've played both sides, first as a "Stormcloak" rebel when I first got the game, then again as an Imperial Legionnaire after reading more about the lore. Preserving the Empire is the only thing that will protect Skyrim from the Dominion. Ulfric is, indirectly, aiding the Thalmor by draining the Empire of resources and men by being forced to fight what General Tullius referred to as a "sideshow." Ulfric preaches about freedom to high-spirited farmers and blacksmiths, as he sends them off to die against well trained and disciplined soldiers, while he sits in a palace at the back of a decaying apartheid city. The Legion's test for your recruitment is also 10x better than the rebels. Legate Rikke has you clear a bunch of bandits from an abandoned military fort. While "Stone-Fist" sends you to the middle of snowy nowhere to kill one Ice Wraith....

Stormcloak fan: SKYRIM BELONGS TO THE NORDS! Me: SkEeRiM BeLuNgS 2 Da NyoRds. Roses are red Violets are blu I'm imperial all the way and stormcloaks will pay

It sounds from what Sybille that Skyrim would go hungry without the Empire.

I like people who bring up objective facts about that while situation. I salute you for not giving a biased opinion:D

if i could choose the new high-king of skyrim it would be brunwulf or balgruuf bouth dudes are good brunwulf 2ants to help those in need but he's a war veteran and he may have carry many scars that make it not possible to do as he wished and balgruuf is the yarl that actually wants whiterun to be a good plae to live you can fing elves redguards and of corse nords and bretons living there even guards are trying to protect (foolishly) saadia from ali'kr warriors and brunwulf again he becomes the yarl of windhelm after imperial victory in skyrim and that made me happy when i visited windhelm becose brunwulf is usually kind and fair he knows that windhelm is devided to nords and elves and the elves had helped them 1000 years ago with argonians with fighting against snow demons of kamal

I find it funny how at the end you said either way Skyrim is just screwed even though when you explained both sides an imperial victory would sound much better

I'd kinda love to be able to play as a thalmor, you get to work from the shadows and influence things

Of An empire victory, I have reason to believe Thalmor presence would increase and make sure to send more to Skyrim if the empire wins to keep them held down. Might be harder to take them out if it's a war on two fronts.

I play both sides and really I think the imperial position is slightly better. I think if ulfric wins Skyrim will be very unfriendly to all other races . The alikir warriors not allowed in whiterun, khajit not allowed in the cities, dunmer in grey quarters , the war cry Skyrim is for the Nords is all proof of this. As for the outcome no matter what side you choose after the final battle both ulfric and tullius will tell the war is not over and the war will continue for years to come as shown by enemy camps still respawn after final battle. As for Nords leaving the imperial army or defecting back to Skyrim not all Nords agree with ulfric as seen by the battle Bourne's so some may still serve the empire

11:42 that's the exact reason why I side with the Empire because Ulfric sees anyone who isn't a Nord as someone who is beneath him much like how the Dominion do with other races I do feel for Ulfric and his cause but in my eyes, he is no better than the high elves

Hello . I have a qustion . What will happen after the civil war for windhelm or the whitrun . Is it gonna be deleted from the map or it will still be resident by people and the shops still exist . And am i gonna lose my house ?

One thing that I'd like to point out is that the Empire DOES allow Talos worshipers in their ranks (Legate Rikke is one) as long as they don't go yelling about it through all of Tamriel, drawing the attention of the Thalmor. Most of the time, the Empire turns a blind eye to the worship of Talos, and only arrests those who worship Talos if the Thalmor find out.

I used to be a Stormcloak myself when I was younger. How blind and fool I was. Long live the Empire!

Wait how can you trust Sybilles words? You can't Trust Vampires!

It also would have been nice if they had tied in the Dark Brotherhood's killing of the emperor into the story instead of it being a side story.

dope video friend!

Would you just pick a single opinion and stick with it!

Honestly, I played through the storm cloak ending once and found it distasteful. Ulfric is an egotistical traitor. He doesn't care to better his people. He just wants to be the one making the decisions. His rebellion, when you really think about what are the likely results if he won, will actually weaken Skyrim. I can believe part of the rebellion is to escape Thalmor control...but it won't happen. The Thalmor would likely just attack, very likely with Imperial soldiers, if Ulfric decided to thumb his nose at them. His pathetic "rebellion" would be crushed, slowly so that the Thalmor can be certain the Empire is quite weakened, and his vanity will likely see his people's culture destroyed. While the Empire does have it's flaws they at least understand what it takes to beat the Thalmor. That is why they let the Thalmor have their way for now. Because it takes much longer for an elf to be replaced than a human. Peace for the Empire means the Empire gets stronger faster then the Dominion. Much faster. Tulius makes it obvious he doesn't care for the rules the Thalmor imposes anymore then the Nords do...he is just practical. A career soldier who understands war very well and knows he must make his nation ready for the fight ahead to throw back the Dominion. His eyes are on the real prize while Ulfric chases vain glorious dreams.

You really did your homework! Even tho you chose the other side like you said.. respect for you bro !!👊🏼

Could you please inform me on which book that is you are referring to?

If you side with the Stormcloaks, you weaken both Skyrimand the Empire, as the two united could defeat the Thalmor, their common enemy, much easier

And you call yourself a Nord?

what if (and stay with me here) the dragonborn decided to travel to cyrodil and take the place as the emperor, with the dragon blood in their veins, to restore the empire to its proper glory. i think that would be a great option. Just well, getting into the throne...xD

good to see the other side of the arguement covered. I do think that the dominion are in trouble the next time war comes around for them, imperial or stormcloak led. we still have the dragonborn to think of, and we know there have to be dragons elsewhere in tamriel for the dragonborn to bring to bear as their personal army since taking down alduin marks them as strongest alive. summerset isle doesnt stand much of a chance against dragon fire.

first: great video, good points raised, it definitely made me reconsider that stuff. But in my personal version of the historical outcome it is set like this. (i sided with the stormcloaks): after the civil war is over and the stormcloaks have won ulfric became high king for the moot elected him. and as you predicted he was terrible. totaly incompetend of buildimg up the country and making skyrim great again, folks it's happening ;) but while the king was not able to handle the lands problems, there was one: the dragonborn ( in my case a Nord, greatsword, heavy armor yoi get it). he, as high thane (meamimg he is the thane of every hold) and his friends he gathered on his adventures were more near the folk and solved many of its problems or even better, encouraging the people to face their problems. that brought Thoralf (Dragonborn) a very good Reputation, he was the hero of skyrim in nearly every regard and the folk loved him and followed him willingly. he and his friends like e.g brunwulf freewinter de-established the racist attitude towards dunmer, argonians and khajits. Ulfric saw this growing influence and the control slipping out of his fingers and thought it was treason and went mad abput it making his politics even worse and extreme. thats why a year after the coronation ulfric accused thoralf of treason and challenged him. thoralf did not want tonfight his high king but when the throne kidnapped his wife and children, it was ober. raging like a battering ram the two fought it out in the palace of kings. the dragonborn after all did not wamt to kill his opponent but more make a clear sign so the defeated ulfric but let him alive. the title of high king was taken away from ulfric and the jarls came together once again to elect a new king. the problem was that the best candidate; the dragonborn was not a jarls thus not able to take the throne. the jarls asked the wise greybeards for advice and the said: "hear what the folk wants". thoralf, respectet by nearly everyone in skyrim was granted the title of high king. Being a good and belobed king who knew to unite the different folks of skyrim under his banner, he knew the points discussed in this video, so he e.g send diplomats to cyrodiil whose emperor unfortunately was killed by the dark brotherhood (but not by thoralf). there the council listened to the nord diplomats because they heard of thoralf beimg engaged in the process of sendimg the imperial troops from skyrim back home instead of killing them. the nagotiations were long and complicated but in the end skyrim had an alliance with cyrodiil, hammerfell and highrock but being self ruled and lawed. thanks to that the situation remained relatively stable. there you have it: a good compromise between skyrims independence and the stabilizing effect of a "united"empire. thenpeople of skyrim habe free choice of religion but still have the options in terms of trade society etc. Thats my personal story thanks for reading:)

One of the best videos I found on this topic. Thanks!

You act like other nations would work with skyrim, but no one besides the empire no one works with the nords, and if skyrim seperates, the other nations don't like them anyway so why help them? Bretons? The Reach was taken back from them, so they dislike Nords Redguards? Still hate nords over them invading in the Third era Orcs? similar to the nords, but they fill the ranks of the empire mostly and the empire saved their survivors during the recent sacking of Orsinium. Dunmer? The High King of skyrim gave them Solstheim after red mountain blew, those that fled to Ulfric's windhelm were mistreated and looked down on by the rest of the stormcloaks. so yeah, empire for them. Bosmer? stuck with the dominion for now, but don't seem to care for anyone else and probably hate the dominion too because of their purging of their people. Argonians? don't care for anyone Altmer? lol Khajiit? don't care for anyone either

Ah , can´t get enough of watching you killing Stormcloaks

VinylicPumaGaming Can you do the Dark Brotherhood quest line (or their destruction) and how it will affect Skyrim and all of Tamriel? Thanks.

Lore wise, I feel that the dominion would actually lose a 2nd great war. From what I remember of the Lore, the Dominion formed almost immediately after the Oblivion Crisis, a crisis where the high Elves have few oblivion portal open on the summerset Isles, and the few that did where quickly closed with magic. Contrast that with the rest of the Empire where the legion had to fight defensive actions against the portal and endless deadra. Basically the Legion came out of the Oblivion Crisis decimated, while the Thalmor and Dominion had relatively minuscule casualties, especially if they used the Legion on the Summerset Isles to close the Oblivion Portals instead of what would later become Thalmor troops. So you basically have a full strength Dominion taking on an utterly decimated Empire that hasn't even started rebuilding before the next war hits them. This means that all the advantages of non-elven races are negated (IE higher population counts, as well as having an easier time replacing casualties, and a superior logistical system) while Talmor advantages are maximized ( Superior Troop quality, officers, and equipment). Once you contrast that with say a fully recovered Empire, and one that has likely heavily militarized, and the Talmor advantages begin to lose their edge, add in that the Dominion is stuck in Hammerfell fighting a protracted Guerilla war against the Redguard, and it looks even worse for the Thalmor. That is why they NEED Skyrim to either succeed or , more preferably, be in a constant civil war with the legion, depleting the Legions manpower pools and combat capabilities similar to the Legion at the end of the Oblivion Crisis. Without this, the losses the Talmor are likely taking in Hammerfell, along with a strengthened and united Legion, would negate the advantages of the Talmor, and play to the Legion's advantages, likely ending with the Summerset Isles being isolated from the rest of the continent.

There's a moment where the Jarl of Whiterun try to make peace with Ulfric, but he refuses. I'm glad I joined the Empire, is by far the cleverest option

I believed the Stormcloaks were superior, until I found out about all the Dominion. Then it was another case of the guys I'm fighting have the cool uniforms.

When asked why help the Dark Elves, Brunwulf has this to say: *cuts to Lords Mobile Game ad where an entire army is being mauled over all at once*

8:04 If the Stormcloaks take Fort Neugrad you can visit there and find a message from the commander warning about an Imperial army massing south of Pale Pass - so yes, they would've invaded Also, the only entity "forcing" the Orcs to live in isolated settlements is Malacath As for who would be more ready for a war between the Empire with a reunited Skyrim and the Dominion... the Empire would be at an advantage, considering that the Altmer have very low birth rates and practice eugenics (9 of every 10 babies killed at birth) and seems to be still active given what Ondolemar says if you ask him if he was born in Markarth

I've lost my faith in the Empire since the death of Uriel Septim so I often join the stormcloacks.

In the thalmor embassy there is journal that implies that the thalmor will invade skyrim if the storm cloaks win, due to the ensuing chaos due to the storm cloaks not being able to sustain the region. From here I assume they would invade cyrodil and then take complete control of tamriel.

I'm pretty sure at the end of the stormcloak ulfric said after a while he would start fighting the high elfs

Yeah Skyrim (and the empire) is doomed either way, unless the dragonborn and dragons fixes everything ;)

After watching your stormcloak video I can kinda see where they're coming from. But I'm an imperial supporter through and through. The way I see it is simple. Even if the dominion doesn't initially take over hammerfell and the newly independent skyrim, it would make it much easier for the empire to fall. And once the dominion took control of cyrodiil, they could invade skyrim and hammerfell and neither would stand a chance against a full force land invasion. The dominion would rule over every province in due time. The only chance men have is to stay untied and do everything they can to repel their forces again. If the empire could unite and regain their forces quickly, they could even try to mount a counterattack against the dominion. But this petty squabbling is useless and ulfric and the stormcloaks are playing right into the dominion's hands...even if ulfric is not directly working with the thalmor, he's no doubt doing exactly what the thalmor want him to do

only reason i go for storm clocks is for general gullies armour it fits my spartan build perfectly

What I want to know is what are the population sizes of the different countries

i think im going to be sick

I really hate when people read the Thalmor "asset" notes or the "institute asset" notes. Being an Assent doesn not mean you are an agent, for example say I'm a trader and someone in a white lab coat comes up to me and ask "what can you tell me about diamond city. Any new people in town?, I can make it worth your while" *jingles bottles caps* They are an asset because they have provided information the the past, rember YOu a 210 stranger can get a lot of info out of traders just as easily. Same thing here, Ulfric never worked witht he Thalmor but they could use him INDIRECTLY to further their goals and he continues to be maluable INDIRECTLY

Great video and good listened. My only complaint is that when you quote scenes from the game that you turn up the volume on the recording. The contrast between you and the npcs are greatly spread

This is the last time I watch a video about a topic I never cared about. I am literary falling asleep after half of the video...