"You can't spell Violet Detector without volcanic disaster" - 🤓 This one was a pain in the ass to make, so I hope you enjoy. I restrained myself from including any 🪳 references this time around, so you're going to have a good day after watching. My next video will be the final one of 2023 -- get freaking ready, it's going to be a FULL ON CHRISTMAS SPECIAL!! 🍪 ⭐ Linkydinks: Twitter --> @Suwawako2 Insta --> @suwawako Kofi --> kofi.com/suwawako Discird --> uhh check description

Fun Fact: VD was announced when I was playing Roblox with some of my friends, it became an inside joke in our circle that we placed a curse on the game because of this. Anyway, when I played it on release, I thought it was fine, until I got to Nightmare Week which just felt lazy and miserable to get through. And it's also most of the game's playtime. Once you're past the first 2 scenes of a Nightmare Week day you've already seen every pattern, but you still have to do 6 more that are just different combinations of the same patterns. There's also a common strategy where people mash shift to essentially move at a speed in between focused and unfocused, which completely interferes with the teleport system, so that's why that's so hated. On top of all the other issues it has, it just completely breaks a common strategy just by being bound to Shift.

You know you can deactivate sticky keys… Right?

14:00 No sane person should have sticky keys on who doesnt need it, you can turn off that popup and prevent it from popping up again.

Men of culture love Sumireko.

Sumireko really has her whole existence built on a dream lmao

I wouldn't say Black Market is bad at all. It doesn't feel traditionally touhou, but it's a very fun roguelike where you can have fun with the cards. Unlike Violet detector it succeeded in doing exactly what it set out to do. Its really just a matter of if its what people actually want to play. Honestly, i feel like most of the complaints for it were coming from people who tried playing the thing unpatched totally clueless. But after the community learned more about it and could most importantly read everything, people who enjoyed roguelike gameplay started to like it a lot. The main problem with it is that by becoming a roguelike, it made skill secondary to luck. Which while very much a roguelike thing, it feels very un Touhou like

i never managed to use the teleportation properly on that game and decided to not play after marisa

Yo WHAT, this script is SO GOOD, I love the introduction!! ❤‍🔥❤‍🔥 Instead of just describing the plot of the game you are actually giving good storytelling! I love this style of making videos, keep going!

I am probably never going to touch Violet Detector, but I did play 100th black market and enjoyed it for what it was. VD looks like it had potential and it’s nice to see some understanding for ZUN. Also I love the cow woman how dare.

The thing I remember most about playing this game is the save data corruption I ran into close to the 9 hour mark. Basically I was just fooling around since the 10 hour achievement and the final teleport achievement was all I had left. So I was on the Mokou + Junko spell card just getting teleports out and I was taking pictures everytime it was up (without damaging the bosses) until I timed out, a few minutes later, the game crashes and when I tried to open it back up, it crashes immediately, I tried changing settings in the config.exe and I was finally able to reopen the game only to see my save data gone. If anyone is curious, I did go back and replay the entire game until 100% completion, though that was after playing Touhou 19 since the save data corruption happened the day before Touhou 19's release. It was an interesting idea for a game, just needed more time in the oven.

Quality video! I enjoyed Violet Detector a decent amount but I definitely felt it was the weakest of the photo games by a good margin. I feel the fact it featured the most scenes in a photo game could have contributed to nearly every attack being lackluster or recycled (StB and DS had around 70 or 80 iirc while VD had more than 100). I was surprised to see my silly VD mod, Violaceous Dream Retrogenesis, mentioned near the end alongside Comatose Chaos! It's pretty cool to see any touhou mod be mentioned in a video, but I'd never thought to see a mod in a video like this; it almost felt like a dream.

As a game in itself, it is flawed an maybe even overcomplicated. As a piece of lore, not only do we get how much of a pain has to endure Sumireko just for losing the notion between dream and reality, but also opens up a lot of mysteries to think about: -Considering that Dream Sumireko is the protagonist, and (confirmed by Curiosities of Lotus Asia) the actual Real Sumireko was in the Outside World uncapable to dream, what was exactly doing Doppelganger Sumireko aka the Sumireko from Gensokyo before the last showdown? -Considering how Doremy handled things in Antinomy of Common Flowers and how this incident started, how was she absolutely sure of the true nature of Dream Sumireko? Was she even that sure by then? --Let's remember that from Doremy's POV the lunarians were way stronger, even for a yokai, but she still released the most controlled versions of them, not only to respect danmaku or general 1v1s (by then Mai and Satono were most likely sent by Okina), but because like in AoCF, there are some who are kinda messed up, like Dream Tenshi, and may not even respect danmaku rules, like Dream Marisa in this game who shot undodgeable lasers on the TP tutorial. With that in mind, how much of the difficulty spike was planned to come? -Adding to the previous mystery, were all the final bosses trying to kill Sumireko? -How must've both Sumirekos felt during the Nightmare Week, where TP was kind of mandatory and they needed to capitalize on it, even if it just on its few usages could gave'em chills? -Talking about dream dwellers, why didn't Yukari help Sumireko and instead simply confronted her, even if by a dream dweller? If someone should know what's happening with Sumireko, it is her -Koishi doesn't dream. This was confirmed by Doremy in AoCF. It is supposed to be cuz' of her closed eye incident. So why does she have a dream dweller? What kind of circumstance should let her have one on the first place? And even if she has one, how would she act like, and what kind of dream could she live? -What did Real Sumireko do in response to the lack of dreams during three whole weeks, and how must she've felt?

As a Touhou fan, I only know Violet Detector for the funny Silvagunner Fnaf song (I'm still new to most of the newer games)

Amazing analysis and video!

I really like Sumireko but i really think that VD could be better if ZUN would want to work on the game better. However, it's much better if fans would be patient while waiting for the release of a new game.

This game ended my entire bloodline☹

fun fact : VD is the 5th touhou game to be translated to malay by me (and my language expert friend)

I'm not gonna lie, I'm lowkey kinda biased in my defense of VD purely because Sumireko is my favourite Touhou character so I can't bring myself to dislike her solo game 💀 That being said, PoDD is hands down the ACTUAL worst Touhou game

Idk why but i just liked VD enough at one point that i couldn't stop until i cleared all scenes without knowing about any glitches lol (even tho yeah teleportation isn't good) yet i still found it fun most of the time)

"You can't rush art" Ironic since Toy Story 2 was rushed

I started with HSiFS. Mai and Satono were not outliers to me as I had little to compare. Frustrating as hell fight, but once I got it consistently was rewarding. The duel bosses in VD felt like expansions of the idea. The repetition was a bit much, certainly felt less enthusiastic than original cards. Have much fewer complaints about it than more veteran fans, although the teleportation was a huge issue.

ITS SUMIREKO, NOT SUMIRENKO!!! AAAAAAAAAAAA (I just hope i misheard xD) (Also, i just love how the whole Urban Legend incident background story is completely omitted xDDDD)

MrS Suwawako, what's your favorite Touhou game?

I'm gonna have to ask for the context behind the picture at 17:10

Zun caught on 4k 😱 17:11

13:15 How ironic that I, a self-proclaimed fan of VD, was featured as an example of someone who was "frustrated" with the difficulty of the game… But yeah, to be fair, VD is the worst of the 3 (4?) photo games; still, I think it's a fun game nonetheless (yes, even gameplay-wise).

Now imagine Suwawako covering the WORST Touhou Print Work... ...When it's finished within a few years that is!

noooo

Lmao, from where is is that pic of him reading that satori dojin pic (is that actually him?)

Idk if this is a hot take but I love most of the duo fights in the series, especially Seiga. Having to balance aiming your shots with dodging both danmaku and ensuring Yoshika doesn't get in our way or using her as an opportunity to damage Seiga presents a unique challenge. I bring this up because I believe it reflects, what I think, hinder the nightmare stages: boss attacks in duo fights aren't made to work together. They're standardised attacks plastered together that end up feeling rather unfair and not massively creative. Overall I think VD is okay, but that's because I'm nit too big a fan if the photo games in the first place, they're probably my least favourite of the spinoff games. I also find 100th black market is the worse game overall imo since I find quite boring to play and feel it doesn't do the card mechanics as well as the mainline game that introduced them.

I just turned off that sticky keys notification because it's annoying everytime I play Touhou

VD was fine, it's just I didn't like using the teleportation mechanic.

Well, fortunatly I'm glad I played it on a Macbook Windows emulator that felt different

PSA: you can disable sticky keys notifications 🙃

wait what

Thank god 19 came along to steal the title of worst touhou game

VD might be a meme but it has some WICKED tunes

SuMIDreko

y u no liek urumi?!?!?!?1?!?1?! (Jokes aside, why? I'm hardly her biggest fan, but she doesn't seem that bad...) Why exactly didn't you like HBM all that much? I had a blast collecting cards and seeing all those old bosses turn up (even though the midgame grind was awful and the difficulty required some cheese to overcome)

sue war cho

I feel like at this point suwawako has a strong hearted toward suika lol.

damn i never kenw about the glitches and i played the game a bunch

For me a based lunatic player the worst is: try to lunatic clear IAMP, like you can only do it with patchouli but the rest of the cast will make you rage quit, there is also hisoutensoku lunatic Cirno when you fight Okuu... i still dont wanna replay Violet Detector

However TH16.5 is one of my favourites... I love the OST and I really like sumireko

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Can't we all agree that highly responsive to prayers is the worst.

I don't think the absence of score entries has anything to do with the game being hard. I think it just has to do with the game coming out in an era where scene game scoring has lost it's novelty, only one photo counting for your final score not being appealing and the game just succs dicc. At least 100th Black Market tried to do something different, even if it failed at being different. Violet Detector was the third photogame when the first two games were already splendid games and I think there wasn't a good excuse for it being the way it was. I remember making a review of it on Moriya Shrine when the game just came out (review was deleted but someone copypasted it in Shmups Forum if you want to see it) and saying that the game felt like a joke.

The game

Sumireko, not SumireNko. She shares only the family name with Renko.

Nice video !

ZUN took the best touhou game (Shoot The Bullet) and replaced the best girl with the worst girl. No wonder it didn't go so well.

I think it’s a little neglectful to mention how the games background story is practically a repeat of 15.5s campaign for Sumireko although with a 3rd Sumireko being omitted. The doppelganger is also a side effect of an ability Sumireko developed in that game also which it’s effectively her occult move. Even if the story is a retread, I at least think Sumi is enjoyable in terms of her comments and hashtags she uses to describe the patterns after beating them. Truly this could have been an excellent game is way more thought went into it. I don’t know if I exactly agree with some of your takeaways but I can get down at the very least with how it has been a game that inspired others at the very least.

14:20 Err... Wat?? You play with WASD and ShiftZX? You know you got a whole other hand bro.

somewhat better than th185 i'd say

Me whose favorite Touhou spinoff game is Violet Detector: "Interesting..." (Also, TIL about the infinite respawn glitch. Would've made 100%-ing the game so much easier... Live and learn, I guess. 😅)

I still think the OST for VD is very underrated.. About the game, i don't know i still didn't play it but yeah, i'll try to just as i comment this

Lol here before the discord announcement, anyways Sumireko best girl and president 👍

Violet detector is the best Touhou game

AYOOO WHAT ZUN READING 😂

part of me wants to say that the game would be called the best if it was called violent detector because wouldn't that be so funny

100th Black Market is the worst one and is just an outright bad game by itself in general. You can hardly argue any positives for it when free flash games from over a decade ago like Bullet Heaven clear it in at least several aspects.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think VD was the worst game. I felt like it just needed more refinements, even if it means potentially a release delay due to gameplay awkwardness. That’s what I like to think in some perfect reality where VD doesn’t get as much hate. I still like VD and it was an interesting game to look back and analyze. Nice bringing in the fan games too because those are pretty great. This was some good quality analysis!

Good game, never had these glitches. Don't justify him for failing to create muh heckin wholesome videogamus, he's not a deity that shouldn't be criticized. He failed, period.

Hopefully when i get home I will wach it.

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This game is literally just an official version of Diamond in the Rough.

VD always felt like game that didn't need to exist. Almost as if ZUN really just wanted game, any game, for Sumireko to appear in and went for an easiest option. Overally even if some people may think its not the worst, its certainly most skippable official touhou game.

Ai art be like Ha ha ha

First.exe Now everyone slaughter me

Well it was the worst one, I honestly think 18.5 is worse now. Also VD is actually not hard at all. It's WAY easier than the previous 3 scene games. Even the 2-3 challenging scenes that are in VD are a piece of cake compared to the harder scenes in other scene games. People don't care about it cause it's a bad game.

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